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Debian installation from CDs in iMac
Hi! I am rank beginner (albeit a 70 year old pensioner), ignorant of Unix, and my first brush with Linux - as well as Unix - has been to try to install Debian in iMac from a set of 7 CDs (cynics might say I'm trying to jump in at the deep end). In the meantime - while my effort of getting Debian into iMac is still continuing - I have managed to successfully install SuSE in the _same_ iMac (yes, being absolutely fed up to the back teeth with Debian, I actually went and bought myself SuSE Linux PowerPC 7.3) - as well as Debian itself in an oldworld powermac clone made by Apple resellers Computer Warehouse of London, England - although I am yet to complete the installation of Debian in iMac that I originally started my venture with. The main problem of installing Debian in an iMac from CDs is that there is no way to scan the second (or a subsequent) CD during apt configuration because the first CD cannot be ejected. SuSE installer, on the other hand, automatically ejects the CD when a media change is called for. I succeeded in installing Debian in the oldworld powermac because it has a PC-style CD tray with a button and I could manage to scan all of the 7 CDs by removing them one by one by pressing the eject button on the CD tray. I wonder if someone is going to write a Debian installer that will automatically eject the CD as required? The other way of improving the installer would be to provide a menu option for ejecting CD during apt configuration or - even better - during the whole of the installation process. The eject command is rejected by bash in these earlier stages of installation. However in my oldworld powermac clone where I completed both installation and base configuration, "eject" successfully ejects the CD when I run a terminal screen from GNOME (I didn't really ask for GNOME, it just sneaked in from goodness knows where and now I have no choice other than to log in to GNOME when I boot - but then frankly speaking I don¹t really mind it except that if it suddenly chooses to disappear into a black hole exactly in the same way as it appeared from nowhere without my asking for it I would not know how to get it back!). Although I usually press the eject button on the CD tray rather than type "eject", the eject command would be more useful in an iMac where such a button is not provided. I suppose on completion of all configuration the eject will work from an X window terminal in the iMac too. Or is there any other way of removing the CD from an iMac during installation that I somehow seem to have missed? If you suggest I should try installing by using a PPP connection to my ISP instead, there are more tales of woe. Debian System Configuration helpfully said, "I will open a PPP connection to your ISP" but could not find a modem port and suggested I try COM1. COM1 in iMac? Charming! Can't the installer tell a Mac from a PC (sorry, being a newbie, I prefer to say Mac and PC to saying ppc and i386)? Needless to add, I got nowhere by this route. I have a broadband connection to an ISP via a proxy server on an ethernet network consisting of these two Macs (iMac and the clone), a Dell PC running Windows 2000 serving as the gateway proxy server and an old Performa 6200 without an ethernet port connected via an Asanté ethernet-to-localtalk bridge (good enough for file tranfer). While the three machines with ethernet ports (i.e. Dell, iMac and the oldworld powermac clone) can all simultanously access my broadband ISP connection under Windows 2000, Mac OS X/9 and Mac OS 8.6, respectively, via the proxy server on the Dell, it has not been possible to do so from either of the two Macs when running Linux although I have configured eth0 in both machines (iMac and clone) umpteen times. Trying to install via http and proxy server elicits the following: Something wicked happened resolving `192.168.0.1"":http' (-3) Failed to fetch ... blah blah blah where 192.168.0.1 is the proxy server with broadband gateway (I tried putting 192.168.0.1 in double quotes but to no avail). If my letter has turned out to be a rambling one, here are three short questions that sum up my problems for which I am seeking help (FAQ writers for newbies - take note!): 1. How do I change CDs in an iMac? 2. How do I dial my "narrowband" ISP using Apple's internal modem? 3. How do I access my "broadband" ISP via a proxy server on the network? I have not yet succeeded in doing any of these while running Debian! I'll really be grateful for any help that might be forthcoming to get me out of this impasse. Many thanks in advance, -- Ashesh
Re: Debian installation from CDs in iMac
On 18/3/03 11:48 pm, "Jeffrey Matt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Depending on the model iMac: > > Tray Loading - there's a hole on the right hand side of the CD tray > face. Stick a paperclip in their and it'll pop open. > > Slot-Loading - Same trick, but stick the paperclip in on the far right > hand side of the slot itself. It's not far in. maybe a centimeter. If > goes in farther, you missed it. > Thanks for the advice. Mine is slot-loading. It took me a couple of days to locate the hole (at first I was not even sure if I should straighten the paperclip or insert it whole but then I vaguely remembered having read in MacUser sometime ago that it should be straightened out) and another couple of hours changing CDs to get the hang. > With these tricks, you can load up all seven (!) CD's during > installation. > > FYI - After many tries and retries, I ended up only installing using > the first CD, wrestling my way online ... Yes, I managed to scan all seven CD's (though apt config read files from only 5 of them) - thanks again - but it was only after reading them all that the installation was complete and the "eject" command started working as in my old powermac clone so that I need no longer use a straightened paperclip to change CDs! On 19/3/03 1:57 am, "Chris Tillman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's good info, I didn't know that about the slot-loading Macs. > And you're right, only CD1 is needed until you get rebooted. The > lack of the eject command has already been addressed in the new > (sarge) installer. > > I've just begun developing a help app targeted to complete linux > newbies, but with a Debian slant. Would either of you like to try out > the very preliminary version and give me some feedback? (If so, > contact me off-list at [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Thanks for the offer. I was busy following Jeff's advice, but now that at last I succeeded with the paperclip and got a modicum of (what looks like) Debian in my iMac I'll certainly give it a try and let you know. On 19/3/03 12:27 pm, "stamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> 1. How do I change CDs in an iMac? > > is "eject" working at this point? > then you could open a second console and type for example "eject > /dev/hdb" or "eject /dev/cdrom" No, the eject command did not work in the earlier stages of installation until I completed apt configuration with 7 CDs armed with a straightened paperclip (see above). It is however working now. On 19/3/03 9:14 pm, "Michael Shields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Jeffrey Matt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Flat Panel - I can't remember, but I think I read about a similar hole >> somewhere (presumably near the CD tray). > > No; the flat panel iMac is the first not to have a paper clip hole. > -- > Shields. I don't really understand Apple's motives. They promote their machines as friendlier than PCs! One should have seen the concentration in my face when I was struggling for the last two or three days with a paperclip to locate the eject hole in the CD slot. Thanks to everyone for your kind help, -- Ashesh
Re: My Debian/MacMini web pages
On 4/6/05 8:55 pm, "Paul J. Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've just completed a set of web pages describing how I > configured Debian Linux on my Mac Mini. However, most of the > material isn't Mini-specific. It includes things like > configuring NFS, IMAP, and SMTP servers as well as setting up a > two-node cluster and a UPS: > > http://homepage.mac.com/pauljlucas/personal/macmini/ > But where is it now? Encouraged by its promise, last week I went out and bought myself a gleaming 512 MB 1.42 GHz Mac Mini (my partner calls it a biscuit tin), but when I came home on Friday with my newly purchased trinket, it (i.e. the aforementioned Web site) was not to be found any more to my chagrin. Just my luck! So the only return for the investment of my hard-earned 399 GB pound sterling at the moment seems to be to be able to use Microsoft Internet Explorer to read about the latest happenings in Iraq. However, if Paul (or some other kind soul on the list) could let me on the secret of how to circumvent the "No hard disk detected for partitioning" message from Debian installer (or mac-fdisk), I could get started as I have some experience of installing Debian (as well as SuSE and Yellow Dog Linux) in an older iMac. The Mac Mini just taken out of the box, on the other hand, seems to be unwilling to run anything other than Mac OS X (you cant even boot it from a CD - seriously, Apple needs its head examining)! Does it need to be tweaked in any way, possibly hardware-wise (Heaven forbid!), to run Linux? Does it need to be "brainwashed" to change its current deeply held conviction that its sole mission in life is just to run OS X? Is it a feature shared by all G4 and G5 Macs? I only hope not! Also can anyone please tell me how to log in as a root (username and password) in Darwin in OS 10.3 so that I can run fdisk from Terminal? Any help will be highly appreciated (and could also be helpful to others struggling to partition the disks of their shiny new Macs for Debian). -- Ashesh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My Debian/MacMini web pages
On 8/8/05 10:10 am, "Dean Hamstead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > macosx has the same locked root as ubuntu > > to enable root, log in as an user with admin privileges. > then open a shell > sudu bash > > put in your password > youll then be in a bash shell as root, > you can then go > passwd > > change your root password. > then you can 'su' to root. It works fine, thanks, Dean! > linux on mac mini isnt magic. youll get it on and things will work > well. possibly you might try ubuntu if your not too savy with > debian and linux in general. > the site you mentioned worked fine for me > > Dean I suppose ubuntu is certainly worth a try, but my immediate problem is preparing a hard disk partition for Linux in Mac mini. However I'll try to get on with it without panicking now that I have got access to Paul's Web site again: On 8/8/05 3:14 pm, "Paul J. Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> http://homepage.mac.com/pauljlucas/personal/macmini/ >> >> But where is it now? > > Exactly in the same place. > > - Paul Found it (my broadband router locked it out)! After trying Safari, Internet Explorer and Firefox all to no avail from the same iMac, I tried (in some desperation) Internet Explorer on an old Mac clone running OS 8.6 connected to the same home network. When again I exactly got the same outcome, it became crystal clear that either my ISP or the router was at fault. The ISP is very unlikely to selectively block out one particular site, so I simply switched my router on and off once and clicked the URL again. Lo and behold, out popped the Mac Mini Introduction page on the screen! Thanks, Paul. -- Ashesh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My Debian/MacMini web pages
On 9/8/05 3:48 pm, "Daniel R. Killoran,Ph.D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is the hard way to do it. Instead, in OS-X, launch NetInfo > (Bootdisk->Applications->Utilities->NetInfo Manager) and select the > "Security" menu. One of the selections allows you to unlock the root > account & set its password. > > Dan Killoran That works too - thanks, Dan. Good old GUI v command-line dichotomy! -- Ashesh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: My Debian/MacMini web pages
On 8/8/05 8:19 pm, "curby ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Apple likes to make the Apple way very easy, and the nonApple way > somewhat obfuscated. To boot from a CD (such as a Debian installation > CD), hold down the c key as the machine boots up. If that doesn't > work, you might have a bad CD. I had no trouble installing Debian on I had a bad CD - no problem booting from a bootable CD. Sorry if I scared off some newbies contemplating installing Debian on a Mac mini! On 9/8/05 6:31 am, "Maximilian Gerlach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> but my immediate problem is >> preparing a hard disk partition for Linux in Mac mini. > Try it with the OS X Install CD/DVD. > Pop it in, press 'C' during boot (starting from when you hear the chime) > and then search the menubar for the 'harddisk service program' (Or > something like that. Sorry, badly translated German ;).) > There you can split partitions, delete, resize, and so on. In fact I did create a partition for Debian (the first partition on the hard disk as recommended by the manual), and installed Mac OS X in the 2nd partition, but the problem that I'm trying to overcome at the moment is that I keep getting the message "No hard disk drives were detected ... you must be installing a diskless workstation ..." from the installer. It could be due to dud CDs (these are of December 2002 vintage!) - I have just ordered a new set of Woody (v3.0r6) discs as I cannot believe that the current Debian installer is unable to detect hard disk drives in a Mac mini! However, should it transpire that there are issues here, I'll certainly keep the list posted. Thanks for your help, -- Ashesh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: (subtitle: Britannia Rules the Waves)
on 18/4/04 1:46 pm, David Pye at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > b) This is an English list, so writing in English would be appreciated. I suspect Mr David Pye is living in the past, still hankering for Britain's long lost colonies, but he should harbour no such hope about Iraq (Churchill tried that in the 1920's but had to give up despite gassing the Shiites in the South and putting hapless Indian troops on the ground for "policing on the cheap" who were killed by their hundreds - a bit of history for you Debian aficionados in the English list). -- Ashesh Kumar Datta
