Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-04 Thread Linux User #330250
Am 01.05.19 um 12:18 schrieb aggaz:
> After reading your email I was able to see that with a USB stick
> inserted at boot a disk device indeed shows up in the device tree
> (visible by using the command "dev / ls"), but I am still not able to
> list its files by using the command "dir".


Which command are you using?

I've seen similiar issues when using a devalias, e.g. hd:, instead I had
to use ultra1: for my first ATA HDD. That seems odd considering that the
Mac boots fine with the command boot hd:, yet seems unable to list files
on that very same device (alias).


Did you try the full device tree path as well?

Should look like:

> dir /pci@f200/mac-io@17/ata-3@2/disk@0:3,\

Or, for a USB path:

> dir /ht@0,f200/pci@4/usb@b/disk@2:2,\

(yours will look different, as those from above are from a Power Mac G5)


> By the way, the USB stick contains a dd'ed debian ISO image and it is
> possible to browse its files on a PowerMac G5 (PowerMac11,2).


That is the same way I did it, I used dd on my Linux machine and
successfully booted the netinst image on my iBook G3 from 1999.


> I think I am using the correct OF path, derived by looking at the device
> tree and by comparison with the working path on the G5.


Are you using an alias like usb0: or ud0: or are you using the full
device tree as the path? (BTW, I would try both...)


> For what is worth, I think that a developer in need to test several CD
> images without burning them should consider investing in a FireWire HD.
> As far as I know booting from FireWire should be much easier, but I
> never tried it.


Which reminds me... I have a FireWire SATA dock that I use with PCs (USB
3.0 or eSATA) and Macs (FW400 and FW800). But I've had issues with this
dock when trying to boot from it. Somehow it doesn't always show up as a
valid boot option. Another similar dock always worked (but I have given
this other dock away, thinking they are the same), so I'm guessing that
it must be some weird time-out issue or such, as all the disks work once
booted up.


Cheers,

Linux User #330250



Re: Debian Jessie mirrors

2019-05-04 Thread userm57
On 5/3/19 11:36 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Hello Pshemek!
>
> On 5/4/19 12:29 AM, Przemys??aw Buczkowski wrote:
>> I tried to update it today but it seems that powerpc Jessie packages were 
>> removed from all the official Debian mirrors;
> Yes, all the mirror for Debian Jessie (powerpc) content has been removed
> from the main mirrors.
>

Would it make sense to always leave one final update on the main mirrors
for each release, an optional update to the /etc/apt/sources.list file
to change the update location to the archive?



Re: Debian Jessie mirrors

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 6:20 PM, user...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Would it make sense to always leave one final update on the main mirrors
> for each release, an optional update to the /etc/apt/sources.list file
> to change the update location to the archive?

No. First of all, the main mirrors are maintained by Debian's FTP team
and they are most certainly not interested to carry an additional burden.

And, secondly, the main mirrors are mirrored worldwide meaning if all the
other old releases where kept as well, the amount of mirror data would
be too large for other sites to continue mirroring the Debian servers.

I understand where you are coming from and what you are suggesting, but
since this particular problem affects a very small number of users only,
so the additional workload would certainly not be justified.

I think updating your sources.list or reinstalling your machine with a
Debian Ports installation image is an acceptable inconvenience in order
to keep these machines running.

Adrian

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Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-04 Thread Karl
Hello,

if I type the following: boot usb1/disk@1:2,\\yaboot

I got the message can’t open device or file.

What have I got to do?

disk1 is listed in the device tree as 
 dev / ls
usb@1b
   /disk@1

devalias
usb1 … usb@1b

I have a Powerbook G4 12“ 1.5GHz
Powerbook 6,8
Model M9690LL

Image is Debian sid 10.0 ->.powerpc:
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/2019-04-20/

I burned the image with this command:
sudo dd if=/Users/karl/Downloads/debian-10.0-powerpc-NETINST-1.iso 
of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m

USB stick formatted with the APT

Thanks in advance

> Am 01.05.2019 um 00:16 schrieb Peter :
> 
>> Hello!
>> 
>> I have dug out one of my iBook G4s now so I can perform installer
>> tests on the PowerMac target. While the machine has a built-in optical
>> drive, I would avoid having to burn CDs for every installation test
>> run (even when using CD-RWs), so I was wondering how well booting from
>> USB >sticks works on these machines.
>> 
>> Does anyone have experience creating bootable USB media for PowerMacs
>> to install Debian?
>> 
>> Adrian
> 
> 
> I booted and installed from USB on my iBook G4 with the folowing:
> 
> boot usb0/disk@1:2,\\yaboot
> 
> With the USB stick inserted in the port closest to me. I used Etcher to
> write the iso to USB. Booted without any extra fiddling, although
> rather slow compared to booting from CD.
> 
> This guide got me on the rigt track:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
> 
> Peter
> 



Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-04 Thread Karl
Finally the installation is running with the following command:
boot usb0/disk@1:2,\install\yaboot

I thought the new bootloader is GRUB?

Thanks in advance


> Am 04.05.2019 um 11:44 schrieb Linux User #330250 :
> 
> Am 01.05.19 um 12:18 schrieb aggaz:
>> After reading your email I was able to see that with a USB stick
>> inserted at boot a disk device indeed shows up in the device tree
>> (visible by using the command "dev / ls"), but I am still not able to
>> list its files by using the command "dir".
> 
> 
> Which command are you using?
> 
> I've seen similiar issues when using a devalias, e.g. hd:, instead I had
> to use ultra1: for my first ATA HDD. That seems odd considering that the
> Mac boots fine with the command boot hd:, yet seems unable to list files
> on that very same device (alias).
> 
> 
> Did you try the full device tree path as well?
> 
> Should look like:
> 
>> dir /pci@f200/mac-io@17/ata-3@2/disk@0:3,\
> 
> Or, for a USB path:
> 
>> dir /ht@0,f200/pci@4/usb@b/disk@2:2,\
> 
> (yours will look different, as those from above are from a Power Mac G5)
> 
> 
>> By the way, the USB stick contains a dd'ed debian ISO image and it is
>> possible to browse its files on a PowerMac G5 (PowerMac11,2).
> 
> 
> That is the same way I did it, I used dd on my Linux machine and
> successfully booted the netinst image on my iBook G3 from 1999.
> 
> 
>> I think I am using the correct OF path, derived by looking at the device
>> tree and by comparison with the working path on the G5.
> 
> 
> Are you using an alias like usb0: or ud0: or are you using the full
> device tree as the path? (BTW, I would try both...)
> 
> 
>> For what is worth, I think that a developer in need to test several CD
>> images without burning them should consider investing in a FireWire HD.
>> As far as I know booting from FireWire should be much easier, but I
>> never tried it.
> 
> 
> Which reminds me... I have a FireWire SATA dock that I use with PCs (USB
> 3.0 or eSATA) and Macs (FW400 and FW800). But I've had issues with this
> dock when trying to boot from it. Somehow it doesn't always show up as a
> valid boot option. Another similar dock always worked (but I have given
> this other dock away, thinking they are the same), so I'm guessing that
> it must be some weird time-out issue or such, as all the disks work once
> booted up.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Linux User #330250
> 



Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello!

I just created the first test image for debian-installer which boots
with GRUB instead of Yaboot. The image is available from the usual
location for GRUB tests:

> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/grub-test/

Feel free to test and report back. It boots fine on my iBook G4.

Adrian

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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Carlos
I will try. The last image 2019-04-20 doesn't work. Because I couldn't install 
GRUB while installation 

> Am 04.05.2019 um 21:19 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
> :
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I just created the first test image for debian-installer which boots
> with GRUB instead of Yaboot. The image is available from the usual
> location for GRUB tests:
> 
>> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/grub-test/
> 
> Feel free to test and report back. It boots fine on my iBook G4.
> 
> Adrian
> 
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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 9:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
> I will try. The last image 2019-04-20 doesn't work. Because I couldn't 
> install GRUB while installation 

There is a known bug when running the installer in a language other
than English. Please run the installer in English.

Adrian

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Re: Performing installer tests on PowerMac with USB sticks

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 8:46 PM, Karl wrote:
> Finally the installation is running with the following command:
> boot usb0/disk@1:2,\install\yaboot
> 
> I thought the new bootloader is GRUB?

The new bootloader for the *installed* system is GRUB, the bootloader
for the installer is going to be GRUB within the next days.

Try this test image:

> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/grub-test/

Adrian

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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Carlos
Tried the GRUB image with the following path:
boot usb1/disk@1:2,\install\vmlinux

I guess this is wrong, because I got the message:
MAC-PARTS: specific partition is not valid can't open -> path


> Am 04.05.2019 um 21:55 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
> :
> 
>> On 5/4/19 9:52 PM, Carlos wrote:
>> I will try. The last image 2019-04-20 doesn't work. Because I couldn't 
>> install GRUB while installation 
> 
> There is a known bug when running the installer in a language other
> than English. Please run the installer in English.
> 
> Adrian
> 
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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Ogness
On 2019-05-04, Carlos  wrote:
> Tried the GRUB image with the following path:
> boot usb1/disk@1:2,\install\vmlinux

On my iBook G4, I can boot the installer from USB with:

boot usb0/disk:,\\grub.elf

(Note that you do not specify a partition.)

John Ogness



Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 10:06 PM, Carlos wrote:
> Tried the GRUB image with the following path:
> boot usb1/disk@1:2,\install\vmlinux
This is the kernel image, not the GRUB image.

The boot script has:


boot &device;:&partition;,\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf


So, try booting \\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf.

Adrian

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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Carlos
So, I tried to install, but failed:

A few errors occurred while installation:
- couldn't load firmware b43, I think because that isn't on the image?
- The archive security.debian.org could not be accessed
- GRUB bootloader couldn't be installed 

Language was English
Keyboard was German 
Installation method was default

> Am 04.05.2019 um 22:24 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
> :
> 
>> On 5/4/19 10:06 PM, Carlos wrote:
>> Tried the GRUB image with the following path:
>> boot usb1/disk@1:2,\install\vmlinux
> This is the kernel image, not the GRUB image.
> 
> The boot script has:
> 
> 
> boot &device;:&partition;,\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf
> 
> 
> So, try booting \\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf.
> 
> Adrian
> 
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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 11:08 PM, Carlos wrote:
> So, I tried to install, but failed:
> 
> A few errors occurred while installation:
> - couldn't load firmware b43, I think because that isn't on the image?

Yes, the images currently don't contain any firmware. I will work on the
firmware issues once I have committed all bootloader changes.

Debian Ports images have been built without firmware so far unlike the
release architectures which have non-free images with firmware. I haven't
looked into the details of building images with firmware yet.

> - The archive security.debian.org could not be accessed

There is no security.debian.org. If it still suggests that then Samuel
Thibault's merge request to fix the mirror master list which moves
"powerpc" to Ports has not been merged yet.

> - GRUB bootloader couldn't be installed 

That should not happen and you should provide the log file if you want us
to have a look at the problem.

Adrian

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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Ogness
On 2019-05-04, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz  wrote:
> The boot script has:
>
> 
> boot &device;:&partition;,\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf
> 

I believe this boot script is causing a problem when trying to boot from
USB. Normally I would do:

boot usb0/disk:,\\BootX

Note that no partition is specified. If a partition is specified, it
invokes mac-parts (at least for my iBook G4). But that causes a problem
because the ISO image has an MSDOS partition table. By not specifying
the partition, the open firmware is able to find the first MSDOS
partition.

However, for the boot script, it is replacing "&partition;" with ":"
yielding:

boot usb0/disk::,\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf

The extra ":" is causing a problem. So for now I can manually start grub
with:

boot usb0/disk:,\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf

But I think if the boot script was:


boot &device;:,\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf


Then I would be able to do the expected:

boot usb0/disk:,\\BootX

This is all probably special case iBook G4 issues. But I wanted to
mention it since it is pretty obvious a lot of people are tripping over
it.

It would be nice if there was some way to communicate to open firmware
to do MSDOS partition scanning first and that a specified partition
number is an MSDOS partition number. But I have yet to see a way to do
that.

John Ogness



Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Carlos
Booting with this path worked for me:
boot usb1/disk:,\\grub.elf

How could I provide a log? Because I have no working OS right now.

> Am 04.05.2019 um 23:13 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
> :
> 
>> On 5/4/19 11:08 PM, Carlos wrote:
>> So, I tried to install, but failed:
>> 
>> A few errors occurred while installation:
>> - couldn't load firmware b43, I think because that isn't on the image?
> 
> Yes, the images currently don't contain any firmware. I will work on the
> firmware issues once I have committed all bootloader changes.
> 
> Debian Ports images have been built without firmware so far unlike the
> release architectures which have non-free images with firmware. I haven't
> looked into the details of building images with firmware yet.
> 
>> - The archive security.debian.org could not be accessed
> 
> There is no security.debian.org. If it still suggests that then Samuel
> Thibault's merge request to fix the mirror master list which moves
> "powerpc" to Ports has not been merged yet.
> 
>> - GRUB bootloader couldn't be installed
> 
> That should not happen and you should provide the log file if you want us
> to have a look at the problem.
> 
> Adrian
> 
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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 11:16 PM, John Ogness wrote:> Then I would be able to do the expected:
> 
> boot usb0/disk:,\\BootX
> 
> This is all probably special case iBook G4 issues. But I wanted to
> mention it since it is pretty obvious a lot of people are tripping over
> it.

Did you see this behavior with the GRUB rescue disc as well? Because the
installer image uses the exact same mechanism as the rescue image. However,
I have not copied these files yet:

-r--r--r--  1 glaubitz users  2623 Apr 30 23:44 .disk_label
-r--r--r--  1 glaubitz users19 Apr 30 23:44 .disk_label.contentDetails
-r--r--r--  1 glaubitz users   245 Apr 30 23:44 SystemVersion.plist

If the GRUB rescue image does not show this problem, then we probably know
why.

> It would be nice if there was some way to communicate to open firmware
> to do MSDOS partition scanning first and that a specified partition
> number is an MSDOS partition number. But I have yet to see a way to do
> that.

Adrian

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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/4/19 11:31 PM, Carlos wrote:
> Booting with this path worked for me:
> boot usb1/disk:,\\grub.elf
> 
> How could I provide a log? Because I have no working OS right now.
Switch to a second console with Alt+Cursor, the log file is located
in /var/log/syslog.

Adrian

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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Ogness
On 2019-05-04, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz  wrote:
>> Then I would be able to do the expected:
>> 
>> boot usb0/disk:,\\BootX
>> 
>> This is all probably special case iBook G4 issues. But I wanted to
>> mention it since it is pretty obvious a lot of people are tripping over
>> it.
>
> Did you see this behavior with the GRUB rescue disc as well?

Yes.

> Because the installer image uses the exact same mechanism as the
> rescue image. However, I have not copied these files yet:
>
> -r--r--r--  1 glaubitz users  2623 Apr 30 23:44 .disk_label
> -r--r--r--  1 glaubitz users19 Apr 30 23:44 .disk_label.contentDetails
> -r--r--r--  1 glaubitz users   245 Apr 30 23:44 SystemVersion.plist
>
> If the GRUB rescue image does not show this problem, then we probably know
> why.

The behavior is exactly the same for both ISOs. When I do:

boot usb0/disk:,\\BootX

It gives the error:

DISK-LABEL: invalid partition #

And I see that it tried:

boot usb0/disk::,\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf

Indeed, I can reproduce the error directly with:

boot usb0/disk::,\\grub.elf

By removing the extra ":", I can boot grub (for the grub-rescue and the
install ISO images):

boot usb0/disk:,\\grub.elf

You have an iBook G4 so I would expect the behavior would be the same
for you as well. Although our iBooks are slightly different since mine
required yaboot to be loaded at a higher address.

John Ogness



Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Karl
Hope this helps
https://ibb.co/hmHrvfT


> Am 04.05.2019 um 23:43 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
> :
> 
> On 5/4/19 11:31 PM, Carlos wrote:
>> Booting with this path worked for me:
>> boot usb1/disk:,\\grub.elf
>> 
>> How could I provide a log? Because I have no working OS right now.
> Switch to a second console with Alt+Cursor, the log file is located
> in /var/log/syslog.
> 
> Adrian
> 
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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Karl
Don’t know, if mail mail reached you …

Here is the log:
https://ibb.co/hmHrvfT

> Am 04.05.2019 um 23:43 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz 
> :
> 
> On 5/4/19 11:31 PM, Carlos wrote:
>> Booting with this path worked for me:
>> boot usb1/disk:,\\grub.elf
>> 
>> How could I provide a log? Because I have no working OS right now.
> Switch to a second console with Alt+Cursor, the log file is located
> in /var/log/syslog.
> 
> Adrian
> 
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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/5/19 12:21 AM, John Ogness wrote:
>> If the GRUB rescue image does not show this problem, then we probably know
>> why.
> 
> The behavior is exactly the same for both ISOs. When I do:
> 
> boot usb0/disk:,\\BootX
> 
> It gives the error:
> 
> DISK-LABEL: invalid partition #
> 
> And I see that it tried:
> 
> boot usb0/disk::,\System\Library\CoreServices\grub.elf
> 
> Indeed, I can reproduce the error directly with:
> 
> boot usb0/disk::,\\grub.elf
> 
> By removing the extra ":", I can boot grub (for the grub-rescue and the
> install ISO images):
> 
> boot usb0/disk:,\\grub.elf

So the bug most certainly originates upstream. The bootscript used for PowerMacs
is sourced from this template:

> http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/grub.git/tree/grub-core/boot/powerpc/grub.chrp.in

So, either the template is wrong or the part of GRUB which processes the 
template.

If just removing the extra colon fixes the problem *and* also does not break the
boot using a CD-ROM (which currently works so it should be tested it still does
with the change), we should fix the bug upstream.

> You have an iBook G4 so I would expect the behavior would be the same
> for you as well. Although our iBooks are slightly different since mine
> required yaboot to be loaded at a higher address.

I'm not sure I have booted the iBook G4 with the unpatched Yaboot so I don't 
know
but it's not relevant now anyway.

Adrian

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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available -- fails to install GRUB "ofpathname: not found"

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/5/19 6:28 AM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> The log says "grub-installer: grub-install: error: ofpathname: not found.”

Ah, right. Since the debian-installer GRUB test image doesn't contain Yaboot
anymore, Frank cannot steal of the "ofpath" utility from Yaboot and repurpose
it for GRUB.

So, we need to fix grub-ofpathname before we can fully switch to GRUB, both for
booting the installer as well as installing it as a bootloader for the installed
system.

Adrian

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GRUB doesn't install on G3

2019-05-04 Thread David VANTYGHEM
I tested
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/grub-test/debian-10.0-powerpc-grub-NETINST-1.iso
on an iMac G3 in QAMEU. GRUB doesn't install :

https://framapic.org/zE4TiX2fDkoI/vvygLQpinTrX.png

https://framapic.org/GjnoOaL19Flf/EIRQQsVsPbxO.png

https://framapic.org/vA30S5uVXnvM/efj051RWUpnb.png

https://framapic.org/d4mHx8kHQFVO/CjLb9DMAFiDu.png

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Re: GRUB doesn't install on G3

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 5/5/19 8:06 AM, David VANTYGHEM wrote:
> I tested
> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/grub-test/debian-10.0-powerpc-grub-NETINST-1.iso
> on an iMac G3 in QAMEU. GRUB doesn't install :

Yes, the cause of this problem is already known and we know what to
fix. It will take a little longer since we need to fix grub-ofpathname
first.

@all:

We have enough data now. Thanks for testing. There is no need to test the
GRUB installation at the moment, but I'm still interested in boot tests
of the image itself and reports in cases where it doesn't work.

Adrian

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Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Frank Scheiner

On 5/5/19 00:27, Karl wrote:

Hope this helps
https://ibb.co/hmHrvfT


The installer can't find the `hfsprogs` package. I just checked the
Debian Ports FTP service and it's there, both for powerpc and ppc64. So
either your Internet connection was down or - if packages were installed
from the installer disc - the `hfsprogs` package is not available in the
ISO. I assume the latter.

@Adrian:
The `hfsprogs` package was also not included in the older ISO from
2019-04-20 (I only checked the ppc64 one). Should we include it, so
off-line installations work?

OTOH should this even work? I.e. to install a base OS from just the
netinstall ISOS? I seem to remember that you somewhere wrote, that you
installed an OS just from the ISO w/o Internet access.

Cheers,
Frank



Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread Frank Scheiner

On 5/5/19 08:46, Frank Scheiner wrote:

@Adrian:
The `hfsprogs` package was also not included in the older ISO from
2019-04-20 (I only checked the ppc64 one). Should we include it, so
off-line installations work?

OTOH should this even work? I.e. to install a base OS from just the
netinstall ISOS? I seem to remember that you somewhere wrote, that you
installed an OS just from the ISO w/o Internet access.


Ok, found it on [1]:

```
[...]
Official netinst images for the "stable" release

Up to 300 MB in size, this image contains the installer and a small set
of packages which allows the installation of a (very) basic system.
[...]
```

[1]: https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

So the `hfsprogs` package should be definitely included in the ISOs. As
the remainder of the installation seems to have succeeded for Karl, I
assume all other needed packages are already available on the disc.

Cheers,
Frank



Re: Debian Installer GRUB test image available

2019-05-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz



> On May 5, 2019, at 8:46 AM, Frank Scheiner  wrote:
> 
> @Adrian:
> The `hfsprogs` package was also not included in the older ISO from
> 2019-04-20 (I only checked the ppc64 one). Should we include it, so
> off-line installations work?

Yes. I will include hfsprogs to the package list for d-i.

> OTOH should this even work? I.e. to install a base OS from just the
> netinstall ISOS? I seem to remember that you somewhere wrote, that you
> installed an OS just from the ISO w/o Internet access.

Yes. You are confusing netboot and netinst. The former needs networking, the 
latter doesn’t.

Adrian