Bug#118608: PROPOSAL] New virtual package radius-server

2001-11-16 Thread Francesco Lovergine
On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 01:14:12PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
> telnet-server is useful because it allows you to conflict with all the
> packages that run a telnetd.  If your intent is for all radius daemons
> to conflict with radius-server, then I agree the the vp is useful.
> 

After some discussion it seems correct to introduce a VP radius-server
as a provides-conflicts-replaces type of (a la sendmail & friends :)).
So if none has more objections I'll change in accepted this bug 
and notify current maintainers for the new policy. 

What's not clear to me is if new pkgs could be uploaded soon also
with policy frozen or they need to wait for policy update...


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Bug#119821: [PROPOSAL] Postscript files requirements

2001-11-16 Thread Yann Dirson
Package: debian-policy
Version: N/A; reported 2001-11-16
Severity: normal

I propose that we add a section under the "documentation" chapter, to
request a minimum of coherence and sanity of PostScript files.

My problem is that some maintainers (probably for paper-saving
reasons, which in itself is a valuable idea) ship 2-up versions of
postscript files, whereas others ship 1-up versions.

Problem with 2-up is that it is meant for printing, and not ideal for
online browsing.  I suggest that we require not to feed postscript
documents through a n-up-izer tool.

In the same direction of allowing easy browsing of ps docs, I suggest
that we require ps docs to contain orientation and format information.
Note: incidentally, it is possible that some n-up-izer tools (namely
psutils) strip this information.

See also: my bug report against package iproute

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Bug#118608: PROPOSAL] New virtual package radius-server

2001-11-16 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:52:01AM +0100, Francesco Lovergine wrote:
> After some discussion it seems correct to introduce a VP radius-server
> as a provides-conflicts-replaces type of (a la sendmail & friends :)).
> So if none has more objections I'll change in accepted this bug 
> and notify current maintainers for the new policy. 
> 
> What's not clear to me is if new pkgs could be uploaded soon also
> with policy frozen or they need to wait for policy update...

If they agree on it, it should be fine.  We'll put it into policy
after woody is released.

   Julian

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Bug#118608: PROPOSAL] New virtual package radius-server

2001-11-16 Thread Francesco Lovergine
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 01:04:24PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote:
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> On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:52:01AM +0100, Francesco Lovergine wrote:
> > After some discussion it seems correct to introduce a VP radius-server
> > as a provides-conflicts-replaces type of (a la sendmail & friends :)).
> > So if none has more objections I'll change in accepted this bug 
> > and notify current maintainers for the new policy. 
> > 
> > What's not clear to me is if new pkgs could be uploaded soon also
> > with policy frozen or they need to wait for policy update...
> 
> If they agree on it, it should be fine.  We'll put it into policy
> after woody is released.
> 

And pkgs should refer anyway to the current policy, I think...

-- 
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Bug#118608: PROPOSAL] New virtual package radius-server

2001-11-16 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 02:20:47PM +0100, Francesco Lovergine wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 10:52:01AM +0100, Francesco Lovergine wrote:
> > > After some discussion it seems correct to introduce a VP radius-server
> > > as a provides-conflicts-replaces type of (a la sendmail & friends :)).
> > > So if none has more objections I'll change in accepted this bug 
> > > and notify current maintainers for the new policy. 
> > > 
> > > What's not clear to me is if new pkgs could be uploaded soon also
> > > with policy frozen or they need to wait for policy update...
> > 
> > If they agree on it, it should be fine.  We'll put it into policy
> > after woody is released.
> > 
> And pkgs should refer anyway to the current policy, I think...

Yes, but as long as all the radiusd-providing packages agree with
this, they can operate it between themselves.  Policy allows for
this.

   Julian

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Re: Bug#119517: pcmcia-cs: cardinfo binary needs to move into a s eparate package

2001-11-16 Thread Joey Hess
Branden Robinson wrote:
> I think both should be forbidden.
> 
> ELF objects, minor or major, must declare shared library dependencies
> as Depends.
> 
> ELF objects, minor or major, that link against non-free shared libraries
> must not go into main.

Why are ELF objects so special? If we have a rule like this, why should
it not apply to other forms of binaries, or to programs written in
interpreted languages? Perl and python programs can produce ghastly
errors if a library they require is not installed.

Also, I'd hope that a perl or python program that requires a library from
non-free to work has no more business in main than does a ELF executable
with similar requirements.

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