Re: Mentors upload authentication
Stephen Gran, 2012-02-16 06:17:09 + : [...] > Second, I think requiring all contributors on alioth to sign the DMUP is > a very bad idea. We host some external project like SANE that have no > reason to want to sign agreements about their usage of machines they'll > never log in to. Even if we did think it was a good idea, account > creation is entirely automatic and on demand - we have no way of > ensuring people have read and agreed to something beyond adding a click > through web page at creation time or something (ick!). Sorry I'm late, but FusionForge does provide a mechanism for restricting new accounts based on a "I have read and agree to blah blah" checkbox. But that only applies to account creation, not to existing accounts. Roland. -- Roland Mas Depuis 1977. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871up1h7kt@mirexpress.internal.placard.fr.eu.org
Re: HOWTO: Source a common shell script between DEBIAN/config and DEBIAN/preinst
harish badrinath, 2011-01-18 13:00:03 +0530 : > I want to source a common file between these two scripts You can't be sure that the common file is present on the system when config runs (since that may be before the package is unpacked). You can, however, maintain the common part as a separate file in your source package and inline it in both files of the generated binary. A very ugly implementation of this is in the fusionforge source package, using an ad-hoc tool I called DSF-Helper (short for "Debian SourceForge helper" -- that's how old it is). Roland. -- Roland Mas One... two... one, two, many, lots! -- Lias, in Soul music (Terry Pratchett) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-mentors-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y66i1uln@mirexpress.internal.placard.fr.eu.org
Re: Need help: difficult NM / requestor
re fixed, we'll advertise that. If the packages are very good, we'll say that publically too, and maybe advocate him to the DAM. If they're not good, we'll also advertise that, and Eray will be in an even more awkward position to bitch and demand than he is now. Eray: this is not a way to cheat you. I have no feelings for or against you (except a slight irritation at how you behave with people on IRC, but I'll abstract that). Consider this as my very own personal test, to help me make my own mind about you and your application. My opinion will be public when I have one. I hope you'll make it a good one, I wouldn't like to waste my time. debian-mentors: You're Cc:ed because you might like to know in advance that Eray is likely to ask for a sponsor for his packages in a not too distant future. [1] http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=Eray+Ozkural Roland. PS: Rene Engelhard has been kind enough to keep a transcript of the IRC session, which I won't push to anyone except if someone denies the existence of my proposal. I can also send it to anyone asking for it. -- Roland Mas Seems to me, the only sensible thing is for people to know if they kill a whale, they've got a dead whale. -- Adam, in Good Omens (T. Pratchett and N. Gaiman)
Re: ITA: yadex -- WAD file editor for doom-style WADs
Frederic Wagner (2003-07-25 15:33:31 +0200) : > I'd like to maintain yadex, which I'm using quite often, for debian. > Anyway it was about time for me to do something for debian, so > adopting an existing package should be the right way to start. > > I've packaged it, changed changelog, and closed the remaining bug > (#138072). You should also close the ITA in the changelog, and change the Maintainer: field in debian/control. > I've read the debian policy manual, the developer's reference, the > social contract, and the DFSG. Good start :-) > If i'm doing something wrong, please forgive me, i'm trying to > figure out how to do, using the debian-mentors ml archives. There's one thing you did wrong. You have to tell us where to find your allegedly fixed packages, so someone can get them, try them out, and upload them. > Unix - where you can throw the manual on the keyboard and get a command :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas ... all in all it's just another rule in the firewall. -- Ping Flood
Re: ITA: yadex -- WAD file editor for doom-style WADs
Frederic Wagner (2003-07-28 10:10:34 +0200) : > everything seems ok, except lintian gives me the following warning : > > W: yadex: copyright-lists-upstream-authors-with-dh_make-boilerplate > > which I don't fully understand. There's a nice switch called -i for lintian that gives you more info on Lintian warnings/errors. In this case, Lintian is probably complaining that you left the (s) in the Author(s): line. You're supposed to know how many there are, and leave or remove the plural accordingly :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas Sauvez les castors, imprimez en recto-verso.
Re: changelog in utf-8 conflicts with maintainer in control
Celso González (2003-08-01 13:14:33 +0200) : > One of the news of this version is that changelog _should_ be in > utf-8 In my case the changelog should not be in utf-8 :) > > I have iconv'ed my changelog to be fully utf-8, but my name has a > "strange character" that gets converted > > So when the uploader checks the name of the Maintainer in the > control file (not utf-8) with the name in the changelog says that > are different, and results in a NMU > > ¿Are my steps correct or iŽm wrong? I can't see where you could possibly go wrong. I believe your steps are correct. > ¿Should I open a bug against debian-policy? Maybe not a bug, but you should definitely report this behaviour on the debian-policy mailing-list. My opinion would be that the control file should also be switched to UTF-8. If you could try that, and if the uploader stops reporting that as an NMU, then you should suggest policy to be changed to document that fact. Anyway, trust debian-policy, not me, as I don't have any diacritics in *my* name :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas If you spit in the air, it lands in your face. -- Tevye, in Fiddler on the roof
Re: creating your own debian package repository
Eric Winger (2003-08-20 16:05:33 -0700) : > So, two questions: > > * Is this a reasonable way to maintain our internal packages - ie a > seperate archive? Or is there a better way. It's the best way I've found. > * If this is the most reasonable way, where is the information on > building/maintaining your own archive. I'll suggest you install the mini-dinstall package, and read its documentation. It works wonderfully for me, and it's more powerful than the dpkg-scanpackages stuff I've seen mentioned in your other answers. I use it in combination with dput (with an appropriate upload method), and it works like a charm. Roland. -- Roland Mas [...] ou une dent pourrie [...] -- in Variations sur un thème imposé -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°2, partie 2/3.
Re: Update: Patch needs Sponsor - List of easily NMUed RC bugs
Goswin von Brederlow (2003-08-24 12:42:35 +0200) : > By they way: > How do you claim a bug? How does/Can a non DD claim bugs? Read aj's message tto debian-devel-announce/No. > #196450 simplecdrx: FTBFS with g++-3.3: Missing include Done already. > #197214 libggi: FTBFS with gcc-3.3: Uses multiline strings Done already. > #195577 libnids: FTBFS with gcc-3.3: Uses multiline strings Done already. > #198317 pimppa: FTBFS with gcc-3.3: Uses multiline strings Done already. > #198113 stardict: FTBFS with g++-3.3 Done already. Well, still uploading, but done (and claimed anyway). > #184885 LSB 1.3 test suite failures Done already. Thanks again for the email, but please refresh the claims page before next one :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas C c ee lm re q j l a l l iè e . -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°1, partie 3/3.
Re: Need help: difficult NM / requestor
Roland Mas (2003-07-24 18:25:55 +0200) : [...] > After rehashing the arguments once or twice again, I submitted the > following proposal: if Eray fixes the four packages he's supposed to > be maintaining, and puts them into an honourable shape, I'll sponsor > at least one of them (even if I don't use any of them). Mark Brown > said he'd do the same. We then suggested Eray started work on his > packages rather than what was increasingly perceived as a watse of > everyone's time (including his) on IRC. Repeatedly. > > At some point, Robert McQueen set some channel bit I wasn't aware > of, which seemed to result in Eray not being able to talk. > > Anyway, the offer as it stands is this (fairly standard) sponsorhip > offer: Eray makes fixed packages, makes them available on a public > URL, posts this URL to debian-mentors (possibly Cc:ing me and/or Mark > Brown), and we sponsor these packages if they're good. If they're > good, and the bugs are fixed, we'll advertise that. If the packages > are very good, we'll say that publically too, and maybe advocate him > to the DAM. If they're not good, we'll also advertise that, and Eray > will be in an even more awkward position to bitch and demand than he > is now. For anyone interested: one month has passed. I've been away for holidays, but I found no email from Eray in my inbox when coming back. Roland. -- Roland Mas La tradition orale, c'est comme un vieux fromage [...] -- Le Blaire -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°2, partie 1/3.
Re: Need help: difficult NM / requestor
Roland Mas (2003-08-25 11:52:06 +0200) : > Roland Mas (2003-07-24 18:25:55 +0200) : > > [...] > >> Anyway, the offer as it stands is this (fairly standard) >> sponsorhip offer: Eray makes fixed packages, makes them available >> on a public URL, posts this URL to debian-mentors (possibly Cc:ing >> me and/or Mark Brown), and we sponsor these packages if they're >> good. If they're good, and the bugs are fixed, we'll advertise >> that. If the packages are very good, we'll say that publically >> too, and maybe advocate him to the DAM. If they're not good, we'll >> also advertise that, and Eray will be in an even more awkward >> position to bitch and demand than he is now. > > For anyone interested: one month has passed. I've been away for > holidays, but I found no email from Eray in my inbox when coming > back. Two months[1]. Still no email. Haven't seen him on IRC either. Roland. [1] Okay, two months minus one day, but I won't have net access for two or three days. -- Roland Mas Bonjour, je suis un virus de signature. Propagez-moi dans la vôtre !
Re: RFS: chtitle - Dinamically change the window title of a x-terminal
Daniel Ruoso, 2003-10-11 17:00:24 +0200 : > Description: Dinamically change the window title of a x-terminal > chtitle is a tiny utility to change the window title of a > x-terminal-emulator using a sequence of non printable characters. Any difference with "xtermset -T blah", apart from the implementation language? Roland. -- Roland Mas Bada, bada, ba-da-da-daaa, doudou, doudou, dou-dou-dou-dou-baaa. -- in Song without words #1 (Paul Leavitt)
Re: RFS: fai-bootcd
Niall Young, 2003-11-20 09:50:29 +0100 : > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> Have you forwarded this to Klaus Knopper - does someone have a suitable >> address to mail it to? That would seem to me to be a useful thing to do. >> >> This also sounds like a potentially very useful "enterprise" related >> package. > > It's really got nothing to do with Knoppix at this stage, that's > just where I'd like to take it - standardise on a toolkit for making > live CDs. You may want to check out (and contribute to :-) Debix, which has a similar goal. Debix has a project on alioth.debian.org. Roland. -- Roland Mas C r ' s d a ue ell r a u i r . -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°1, partie 1/3.
Sponsoring HOWTO?
Hello people, Is there such a thing somewhere? I'm done through the NM process, and there are several packages I would have gladly sponsored it I knew how to do it the right way. Thanks, Roland. -- Roland Mas Just because you're dead doesn't mean they aren't still out to get you. -- Virgil, in Ye Gods! (Tom Holt)
Re: test if user exists in postinst
Radovan Garabik (2001-04-09 22:29:44 +0200) : > What is the best way of testing (and adding) a new username in > postinst? ,[ man adduser ] |Add a system user |If called with one non-option argument and the --system |option, adduser will add a system user. If an user with an |uid in the system range (or if the uid is specified, with |that) does already exist, adduser will exist silently. ` Which means you can test the return value of adduser: 0 means OK (user created or already existing the way you're trying to create it), non-0 means problem creating. This is the method I'm using for the Sourceforge package, and it seems to work exactly the expected way. Roland. -- Roland Mas Magic is one thing, and reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits is another. -- Twoflower, in The Colour of Magic (Terry Pratchett)
Re: Making package.
Bas Zoetekouw (2001-05-21 08:48:38 +0200) : > Hi Tommy! > > You wrote: > > > Hi guys. I'm trying to put together a package that contains a single > > binary program and have followed all the steps in the New Maintainor's > > guide and have managed to form the binary package. For some reason when I > > do: > > dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot it compiles fine and asks me for my gpg > > password which works fine, but for some reason it says that source package > > will not be included. > > You probably don't have a ../package_version.orig.tar.gz file. Or your latest debian/changelog entry has a Debian revision number different from 0 and 1. dpkg-buildpackage only adds the source to the package for the first upload of an upstream release, and subsequent ones only need the .diff.gz. Um... Not sure I understood your question precisely, but just in case... Roland. -- Roland Mas Sauvez un arbre, tuez un castor.
Re: sponsor required for gstar (ITP #88503)
Christian T. Steigies (2001-05-28 12:06:46 -0500) : > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:26:19AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > > > > Emacs users can use debian-changelog-mode.el from the dpkg-dev-el > > package. The closes: statements will be fontified when the sytax > Ah! And I always wondered why that file kept dissappearing from my > boxes. It used to be part of dpkg? It used to be part of dpkg-dev, actually (hence the dpkg-dev-el name). > Why don't we add it to build-essentials or some other prominent > place? Because it depends on Emacs? I'm a big Emacs-lover (and the dpkg-dev-el maintainer, by the way), but even so, I don't want to impose Emacs onto anyone. I suggested Wichert (dpkg-dev maintainer) to add a Suggests: dpkg-dev-el in the dpkg-dev package, but even that seemed to be too much for him. Bitch him if you like. Roland. -- Roland Mas Sauvez les castors, plantez des arbres.
Re: Fwd: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti
Michèl Alexandre Salim (2001-06-01 14:48:30 +0100) : > > From: Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti [...] Does that include Pango or what will becone Pango? I think *that* would be most useful. Roland. -- Roland Mas Magic is one thing, and reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits is another. -- Twoflower, in The Colour of Magic (Terry Pratchett)
Re: Change of package name or command name.
Richard Braakman (2001-06-28 18:00:46 +0300) : > On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 07:08:33AM +0900, Yooseong Yang wrote: >> > Yes. poEdit is a horrible name. Command names should be all lowercase. >> >> What item in Debian Policy? you mean policy 2.3.1 or something? > > It's not in Debian Policy, it's a Unix tradition going back 30 years. One single letter: X :-) R. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus.
Re: GPG Key Signing
Ralf Treinen (2001-07-06 12:54:36 +0200) : > On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 11:06:49PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Jimmy/James are acceptable social contractions/tranforms. I'd > > This might be the case for people with an American cultural background. > People elsewhere in the world might have a doubt whether Jimmy is > equivalent to James. I guess I wouldn't sign the key in this situation. I concur. I for one wouldn't sign a key for a "Jeff" if the photo-ID is for a "Jean-François", since it could also be for a "Jean-Philippe". Or some other name. Roland. -- Roland Mas Currently in Bordeaux for the Debian Conference One and the second Libre Software Meeting.
Sponsoring HOWTO?
Hello people, Is there such a thing somewhere? I'm done through the NM process, and there are several packages I would have gladly sponsored it I knew how to do it the right way. Thanks, Roland. -- Roland Mas Just because you're dead doesn't mean they aren't still out to get you. -- Virgil, in Ye Gods! (Tom Holt) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: test if user exists in postinst
Radovan Garabik (2001-04-09 22:29:44 +0200) : > What is the best way of testing (and adding) a new username in > postinst? ,[ man adduser ] |Add a system user |If called with one non-option argument and the --system |option, adduser will add a system user. If an user with an |uid in the system range (or if the uid is specified, with |that) does already exist, adduser will exist silently. ` Which means you can test the return value of adduser: 0 means OK (user created or already existing the way you're trying to create it), non-0 means problem creating. This is the method I'm using for the Sourceforge package, and it seems to work exactly the expected way. Roland. -- Roland Mas Magic is one thing, and reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits is another. -- Twoflower, in The Colour of Magic (Terry Pratchett) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making package.
Bas Zoetekouw (2001-05-21 08:48:38 +0200) : > Hi Tommy! > > You wrote: > > > Hi guys. I'm trying to put together a package that contains a single > > binary program and have followed all the steps in the New Maintainor's > > guide and have managed to form the binary package. For some reason when I > > do: > > dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot it compiles fine and asks me for my gpg > > password which works fine, but for some reason it says that source package > > will not be included. > > You probably don't have a ../package_version.orig.tar.gz file. Or your latest debian/changelog entry has a Debian revision number different from 0 and 1. dpkg-buildpackage only adds the source to the package for the first upload of an upstream release, and subsequent ones only need the .diff.gz. Um... Not sure I understood your question precisely, but just in case... Roland. -- Roland Mas Sauvez un arbre, tuez un castor. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sponsor required for gstar (ITP #88503)
Christian T. Steigies (2001-05-28 12:06:46 -0500) : > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:26:19AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: > > > > > > Emacs users can use debian-changelog-mode.el from the dpkg-dev-el > > package. The closes: statements will be fontified when the sytax > Ah! And I always wondered why that file kept dissappearing from my > boxes. It used to be part of dpkg? It used to be part of dpkg-dev, actually (hence the dpkg-dev-el name). > Why don't we add it to build-essentials or some other prominent > place? Because it depends on Emacs? I'm a big Emacs-lover (and the dpkg-dev-el maintainer, by the way), but even so, I don't want to impose Emacs onto anyone. I suggested Wichert (dpkg-dev maintainer) to add a Suggests: dpkg-dev-el in the dpkg-dev package, but even that seemed to be too much for him. Bitch him if you like. Roland. -- Roland Mas Sauvez les castors, plantez des arbres. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti
Michèl Alexandre Salim (2001-06-01 14:48:30 +0100) : > > From: Michèl Alexandre Salim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: ITP: glib2, gtk2, inti [...] Does that include Pango or what will becone Pango? I think *that* would be most useful. Roland. -- Roland Mas Magic is one thing, and reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits is another. -- Twoflower, in The Colour of Magic (Terry Pratchett) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Change of package name or command name.
Richard Braakman (2001-06-28 18:00:46 +0300) : > On Thu, Jun 28, 2001 at 07:08:33AM +0900, Yooseong Yang wrote: >> > Yes. poEdit is a horrible name. Command names should be all lowercase. >> >> What item in Debian Policy? you mean policy 2.3.1 or something? > > It's not in Debian Policy, it's a Unix tradition going back 30 years. One single letter: X :-) R. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GPG Key Signing
Ralf Treinen (2001-07-06 12:54:36 +0200) : > On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 11:06:49PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Jimmy/James are acceptable social contractions/tranforms. I'd > > This might be the case for people with an American cultural background. > People elsewhere in the world might have a doubt whether Jimmy is > equivalent to James. I guess I wouldn't sign the key in this situation. I concur. I for one wouldn't sign a key for a "Jeff" if the photo-ID is for a "Jean-François", since it could also be for a "Jean-Philippe". Or some other name. Roland. -- Roland Mas Currently in Bordeaux for the Debian Conference One and the second Libre Software Meeting. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Applicant w/ package
Andrew Suffield (2001-11-04 01:03:40 +) : > On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:30:57PM -0300, ReivaX wrote: >> Hi ppl in this nice list :) >> Im looking to be an applicant to debian developer. It seems i need an >> advocate... I want more info on how to get someone know about me.. >> I have packaged mplayer (the video player for X) with gui support and a >> default skin, ready to be used. > > You have got to be kidding. Read any one of the half a dozen prior > threads about this and how it cannot be packaged, due to license, > patent, and upstream arsehole issues. Maybe it would be worth listing it on the "can't be packaged" page at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package>? Roland. -- Roland Mas S'agirait pas d'atteindre la sublime transcendance du supramental sans se bouger le fion un minimum... -- in Sri Raoul le petit yogi (Gaudelette) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sourceforge sucks
Yven Johannes Leist (2001-11-10 18:22:26 +0100) : > On Saturday 10 November 2001 18:13, Yven Johannes Leist wrote: >> das mit dem release könnte noch dauern, suckforge ist gerade grauenhaft >> langsam bis überhaupt nicht mehr responding :-(( > sorry for the inconvenience, this message was not supposed to go > here, I must have hit the wrong button. I don't understand much German, but it sounded like you're not very happy with Sourceforge.net. I can therefore only suggest you install your own Sourceforge, for which there is a package (maintained by yours truly). It's not as current as sf.net, obviously, since the upstream code hasn't been released for a while, but it works rather fine. Of course, if it doesn't, bug reports are welcome :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas Qu'est-ce qui est jaune, qui pèse deux cents kilos et qui chante ? Un sumotori qui a bu trop de saké. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dpkg-reconfigure, policy, and least surprise principle
Hi all, I'm confronted with a problem here, and I'd like your valuable advice. I suppose this problem has occurred before, but no obvious references to it are in the policy, or in the Debconf documentation. I have a package (let's call it sourceforge) that uses Debconf to ask a few questions at install time, and writes the results in a file in /etc/sourceforge/sourceforge.conf. There is a sourceforge-config script to turn this "master" config file into a set of Perl, PHP and Apache configuration files. According to policy, the postinst script does not overwrite local configuration: it only adds missing values to the sourceforge.conf file, and does not overwrite the ones already present. Upgrade thus does not overwrite local settings, and all is well. Except... Except when some user types "dpkg-reconfigure sourceforge". He then changes some values in Debconf, and the postinst is re-run like it would be for an upgrade. In other words: the new values typed in debconf are not used in the master configuration file, and obviously not transferred to the other files. The user is then greatly perplexed. On the one hand, I am not allowed to change sourceforge.conf on upgrade, and on the other hand the user expects a dpkg-reconfigure to really reconfigure his system. Yet both operations do the same thing (invoke postinst). What to do? A hypothetical third hand would be holding this: the postinst first reads the master config file and shoves its values into Debconf, then asks the debconf questions, then updates the sourceforge.conf file with the new values from Debconf. It sounds horribly messy, though, and I'm not sure it's doable without too much hackery. Anyone got a fourth hand? Please? Roland. -- Roland Mas Using a big hammer without caution can cause big damage. -- PostgreSQL documentation, chapter 42 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug #120311 and #118431
Speed Blue (2001-12-20 12:20:25 +0100) : > I have fix bug #120311 by a patch (I am not an official > developper) and this patch (corrected by apt team) fix also bug > #118431. How should I roceed ? merge the teo bug of send the patch > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?? Send the patch to one of these bugs (or even both if you like), and suggest that it also closes the other. The maintainer will then merge the bugs if they are really the same. If they are different problems that your patch fixes, he'll just close two bugs instead of one with his next upload. As a general rule, you should not act on bug reports. Add as much info as needed/useful, but do not close/merge/reassign/whatever a bug report, as it is the maintainer's job. Unless it's your bug report and you know it's either an error while submitting or you can prove that the bug has been fixed. Roland. -- Roland Mas Sauvez les castors, imprimez en recto-verso. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about making architecture-independent fonts package
Matt Chisholm (2002-02-15 00:17:42 -0800) : > I have specified the architecture "any" in the control file, and > this is the correct choice for fonts. Ah. That depends. Is the package really architecture-independent? If it is, then the architecture has to be "all". The "any" architecture specifies that the binary package can be built on any architecture, the "all" means that the same (binary) package can be installed on all architectures. > Is this a problem? Should I ignore it? Only you can decide. Do you have i386-specific files in the binary package (the *.deb)? If yes, then no problem. > Will users on non-i386 be able to install this package? No. They will have to recompile it on their host architecture (or, if you upload your source package to Debian, they will have to wait for an autobuilder to build the appropriate arch-specific package). If it were "all", though, they would be able to install and use it just fine. Roland. -- Roland Mas Oshitemo damedara, hiite mina. -- Proverbe japonais -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rebuilding successfully built arches
Josselin Mouette (2002-02-25 14:00:29 +0100) : > I have a problem with the frozen-bubble-lib package : due to a debhelper > bug, it has been built as an empty package on two arches (sparc and > powerpc), and marked as successfully built by buildd. > Is there a good way to tell buildd to rebuild these arches with the new > debhelper ? Upload a new version of the package, with a versioned Build-Depends: field in the control file. Roland. -- Roland Mas It would be hard to be deader without special training. -- in Theatre of Cruelty (Terry Pratchett) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gpg passphrase and package building
christophe barbé (2002-07-24 11:47:50 -0400) : > When building a package, the description file and the changes file > are signed separately. > > Has anyone a good solution to type only one time his gpg passphrase > when building a package. Yep. You can install quintuple-agent, run it, and use the "-sgpg -pagpg" options for dpkg-buildpackage/debuild/whatever. Roland. -- Roland Mas -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s-: a-- C++ ULU++ P+++ L+++ E++ W+ N++ o K- w- O- M- V- PS++ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X- R !tv b++ DI+ D+ e+++ h r* y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Control File
Zeno Davatz (2002-10-04 11:13:59 +0200) : > On 2.10.2002 19:28 Uhr, "Simon Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The "i" in front of the comma. >> >> Simon > Thanks. Do you have an idea why my Debian still wants to install > apache-common when I make apt-get install php4? Maybe because php4 depends on a specific version of apache-common. You can't do versioned Provides: (yet), so apt uses one that is known to be the appropriate version. Roland. -- Roland Mas Death *was* hereditary. You got it from your ancestors. -- in Hogfather (Terry Pratchett) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for sponsor for several related packages
Kenneth Pronovici (2002-10-12 12:46:00 -0500) : >libsort-versions-perl >From a very selfish point of view, I'd like to ask whether this module has a function to compare versions with the exact same algorithm dpkg uses (upstream, debian revision, and characters such as + and ~ located where they belong in the ordering sequence). If so, then I'd be happy to sponsor that one (my use for it is a package currently using a compare_versions() subroutine that runs dpkg through system(), which is, well, yuk). I'm afraid that's the only one in which I have an interest, but if I can help you (and help the other potential sponsors by reducing the number of packages they'd have to check), then I'd be glad to. Roland. -- Roland Mas C c ee lm re q j l a l l iè e . -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°1, partie 3/3. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for sponsor for several related packages
Colin Watson (2002-10-13 03:33:51 +0100) : [...] > libapt-pkg-perl gives you AptPkg::Version, which has a compare() method. Good news for me, but probably bad news for Kenneth Pronovici, since I'm now more interested in libapt-pkg-perl than in libsort-versions-perl. Sorry Kenneth :-) Ah bah, my conscience kicks in and I hate myself for letting you down after an implied promise. I'll sponsor libsort-versions-perl if noone else steps up. Roland. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes n'ont qu'un oeil. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to detect if Sendmail/Postfix/Qmail is installed
John Price (2003-02-21 01:54:24 -0600) : > I'm considering packaging TPC from http://www.tpc.int, and it > requires configuring the MTA to accept email to specific > domain names. Needless to say, it's a fairly complicated > mail server configuration. > > In this case, should the package just document what the use > should do (it will be different for each MTA) or at least > detect which MTA is installed and copy an example config file > in the correct place for whichever MTA is installed? What I do for sourceforge (not the package currently in unstable) and gforge is this: the main package (sourceforge) depends on sourceforge-mta-exim | sourceforge-mta, and then I have sourceforge-mta-exim and sourceforge-mta-postfix pacakges. Depending on which one you install, then, you know what MTA to configure for. Roland. -- Roland Mas That's one of the good fings about not existin'; they leave you alone most of the time. -- in My Hero (Tom Holt) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to obtain current package version number?
Colin Watson (2003-03-04 14:06:07 +) :
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 02:14:59PM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote:
[...]
>> # example: current bash version number
>> BASH_VERSION=`grep-available -P -s Version -n -r '^bash$'`
>
> That will be wrong in the event that somebody has run 'dselect
> update' but not yet upgraded.
How about the following?
BASH_VERSION=$(dpkg -s bash | awk '/^Version:/ { print $2 }')
Roland.
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Re: pgp 2.6.3i vs pgp5i vs gnupgp
Drew Scott Daniels (2003-03-17 16:05:50 -0600) : [...] > I've decided to carry a disk around with my key and have GnuPG on > all the various single user machines that I use. For what it's worth: I've been concerned with the physical security of the machines to which I have access, and I have followed a trend I had heard of: a small (64 MB) USB storage device, on which I store my private (and public too) keyrings, an entry in the appropriate /etc/auto.removable file (autofs), and a symlink from ~/.gnupg/id_lolando to /mnt/auto/removable/usb-key/.../id_lolando. Same for the public keyring, just in case. It works flawlessly, and it allows me to have my GnuPG private key on exactly zero machine, only on this USB key thing (don't worry, I also have backups). I have recently added SSH to the same scheme. Protects me from thieves, although not from trojaning. I assessed the risks :-) Oh, and also, when people see that black plastic thingy on my keychain, I'm allowed to tell them that's my digital keys :-) Roland. PS: Total cost is ~ 30 EUR, an hour for the initial setup (including errors), then 5 minutes for following setups on other machines. -- Roland Mas Just because you're dead doesn't mean they aren't still out to get you. -- Virgil, in Ye Gods! (Tom Holt) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nautilus-media uploaded, Thanks to sponsor!
Johannes Rohr (2003-03-18 10:43:04 +0100) : > NOTE: The latest unofficial packages had Debian revision numbers > > 1. If you had one of them installed, you have to force a downgrade > to get the official package installed, since we considered it too > ugly to start with an epoch. There's nothing wrong with your first official package having a Debian revision number > 1, you know. You just have to be careful that your upload includes the .orig.tar.gz (debuild -sa, in other words). Roland. -- Roland Mas Such compressed poems / With seventeen syllables / Can't have much meaning... -- in Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid (Douglas Hofstadter) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nautilus-media uploaded, Thanks to sponsor!
Andrew Stribblehill (2003-03-18 10:44:49 +) : > Quoting Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2003-03-18 10:20:04 GMT): [...] >> There's nothing wrong with your first official package having a >> Debian revision number > 1, you know. You just have to be careful >> that your upload includes the .orig.tar.gz (debuild -sa, in other >> words). > > It doesn't count in this case, but occasionally I miss a revision > number between uploads. What happens with closed bugs in the 'lost' > versions? They stay open, unless: - you close them by hand (mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]), or - you use the appropriate option for debuild/dpkg-buildpackage, which includes several chunks of changelog in the .changes file, which will then close the bugs. Read the manpages, I don't know the syntax. Roland. -- Roland Mas Just because you're dead doesn't mean they aren't still out to get you. -- Virgil, in Ye Gods! (Tom Holt) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pgp 2.6.3i vs pgp5i vs gnupgp
Kevin Rosenberg (2003-03-20 12:40:17 -0700) : > Roland Mas wrote: >> It works flawlessly, and it allows me to have my GnuPG private >> key on exactly zero machine, only on this USB key thing (don't >> worry, I also have backups). I have recently added SSH to the same >> scheme. Protects me from thieves, although not from trojaning. I >> assessed the risks :-) > > I do the same. Additionally, I use the Debian cryptoapi and > cryptoloop kernel modules to encrypt the USB drive. I think the > chance of losing such a portable, small device is significant. With > encryption, I feel better about the possibility. I'm wondering whether this brings any additional security. Isn't the GPG private key stored in an encrypted form already? Or do the cryptoloop and cryptoapi modules offer more than 128-bit encryption? Roland. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can I get CVS space for collaborative maintenance?
Rene Engelhard (2003-03-26 02:27:46 +0100) : > Johannes Rohr wrote: >> So can anyone tell me, where to turn in search of CVS space? [...] > Well, normally, there is cvs.debian.org. > > But [...] it seems that it is closed anyway Its functionality is to be provided by the soon-to-be-announced Alioth (see http://alioth.debian.org/ for details). Roland. -- Roland Mas Qu'est-ce qui est petit, jaune et vachement dangereux ? Un canari avec le mot de passe de root. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Should I sign up for New Maintainer even though I don't have anadvodcate?
B. Douglas Hilton (2003-04-04 04:55:35 -0500) : [...] > I dunno. I remember submitting a bug report for Debian/Arm last year > because something trivial ( can't remember now ) was messed up. I > don't generally submit bug reports, because I generally don't have > any problems with Debian that I cannot fix with the vi editor and > abour 30 seconds of effort. This is probably what you should resolve to change. Report the bug, fix the package, send the patch. This is how you can contribute to Debian. [...] > Heh.. I know. But I live in the middle of the woods in Pennsylvania. > There are no real Debian developers anywhere close to me. That's a minor point. You only need to meet DDs once, to get your key signed. Afterwards, you can spend the rest of your life in a dark closet with just a power cord and network cable going out, and it'll make no difference to Debian. > It would be nice if there was a pre-applicant status where you could > laud your great Debian contributions until they built up enough for > somebody to notice. There are several such places. The bug-tracking system is one. The QA group is another. Bug-squashing parties, user help channels on IRC. Mailing-lists. Become active. Get some visibility. Make it so people know your name and what you do. Make it so that *one* person knows your name and what you do, it's enough and he'll probably advocate you. > Thats another issue. I don't want to be a Debian Maintainer, I want > to be a Debian Developer. A subtle difference, yet nonetheless > important. So you want to help Debian how? Just maintaining one package does not require Debian membership. Nor does it constitute grounds to be called "Debian Developer". What do you want to do that falls between "Maintainer" and "Developer"? You don't seem to want to report bugs. Or fix them. Or send patches. Or participate on the lists. Or get involved in any way but getting the possibility to scp your package straight into Sid. > No its not exactly like that, I just have been a Debian advocate for > so long, and I'm a good programmer, and I want to contribute. How? > But Debian is my passion and I love the OS and I want to work at it, > but you can only work for free for so long before you develop an > attitude, and every time I get an attitude I go inactive -- human > nature I suppose. And becoming a Debian Developer will change that how? You won't get any more recognition: you'll only impress Debian people (who don't care), other Linux people (who'll laugh at you for being Debian and not $OTHERDIST). The rest of the world doesn't care. > > Well, I've cooled off, and here I am trying again to join. I'm > somewhat saddened because of how long I have used Debian, and I > wouldn't use it if I didn't like it. I won't stop using it if I > don't become a DD, but I just think that I am quite the old Debian > expert, I know weird quirks about how it works and it is like second > nature to me. Great! So help fix the quirks! > When I went to DebConf2 [...] I was an outsider and thus did not > have the long term friendship and trust required. There were a lot > of cool people there, but the time was much to short to develop any > real friendships. You don't need "long term real friendship" to be advocated. Want me to advocate you? Read on. > HEY ... PICK ME ... etc etc ... :-) Getting Roland Mas to advocate you mini-HOWTO - 1. Find out about what my interests are. Tips: search what package(s) I maintain / have maintained / have NMUed. What packages I use and would like to work better (search for the bugs I have submitted). What packages I use, would like to work better, and have submitted patches to. What packages I would like to see packaged. 2. Find out how you can show the quality of your work to me. Tips: send patches to bug reports on my packages. Send patches to bug reports I submitted. Package the softwares I requested. 3. Repeat step 2. for a few weeks. 4. Ask me to advocate you. I will, unless you've been particularly obnoxious during the first three steps. Roland. -- Roland Mas All tribal myths are true, for a given value of 'true'. -- in The Last Continent (Terry Pratchett) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need help: difficult NM / requestor
re fixed, we'll advertise that. If the packages are very good, we'll say that publically too, and maybe advocate him to the DAM. If they're not good, we'll also advertise that, and Eray will be in an even more awkward position to bitch and demand than he is now. Eray: this is not a way to cheat you. I have no feelings for or against you (except a slight irritation at how you behave with people on IRC, but I'll abstract that). Consider this as my very own personal test, to help me make my own mind about you and your application. My opinion will be public when I have one. I hope you'll make it a good one, I wouldn't like to waste my time. debian-mentors: You're Cc:ed because you might like to know in advance that Eray is likely to ask for a sponsor for his packages in a not too distant future. [1] http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=Eray+Ozkural Roland. PS: Rene Engelhard has been kind enough to keep a transcript of the IRC session, which I won't push to anyone except if someone denies the existence of my proposal. I can also send it to anyone asking for it. -- Roland Mas Seems to me, the only sensible thing is for people to know if they kill a whale, they've got a dead whale. -- Adam, in Good Omens (T. Pratchett and N. Gaiman) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITA: yadex -- WAD file editor for doom-style WADs
Frederic Wagner (2003-07-25 15:33:31 +0200) : > I'd like to maintain yadex, which I'm using quite often, for debian. > Anyway it was about time for me to do something for debian, so > adopting an existing package should be the right way to start. > > I've packaged it, changed changelog, and closed the remaining bug > (#138072). You should also close the ITA in the changelog, and change the Maintainer: field in debian/control. > I've read the debian policy manual, the developer's reference, the > social contract, and the DFSG. Good start :-) > If i'm doing something wrong, please forgive me, i'm trying to > figure out how to do, using the debian-mentors ml archives. There's one thing you did wrong. You have to tell us where to find your allegedly fixed packages, so someone can get them, try them out, and upload them. > Unix - where you can throw the manual on the keyboard and get a command :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas ... all in all it's just another rule in the firewall. -- Ping Flood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITA: yadex -- WAD file editor for doom-style WADs
Frederic Wagner (2003-07-28 10:10:34 +0200) : > everything seems ok, except lintian gives me the following warning : > > W: yadex: copyright-lists-upstream-authors-with-dh_make-boilerplate > > which I don't fully understand. There's a nice switch called -i for lintian that gives you more info on Lintian warnings/errors. In this case, Lintian is probably complaining that you left the (s) in the Author(s): line. You're supposed to know how many there are, and leave or remove the plural accordingly :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas Sauvez les castors, imprimez en recto-verso. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changelog in utf-8 conflicts with maintainer in control
Celso Gonz+AOE-lez (2003-08-01 13:14:33 +-0200) : > One of the news of this version is that changelog _should_ be in > utf-8 In my case the changelog should not be in utf-8 :) > > I have iconv'ed my changelog to be fully utf-8, but my name has a > "strange character" that gets converted > > So when the uploader checks the name of the Maintainer in the > control file (not utf-8) with the name in the changelog says that > are different, and results in a NMU > > +AL8-Are my steps correct or i+AX0-m wrong? I can't see where you could possibly go wrong. I believe your steps are correct. > +AL8-Should I open a bug against debian-policy? Maybe not a bug, but you should definitely report this behaviour on the debian-policy mailing-list. My opinion would be that the control file should also be switched to UTF-8. If you could try that, and if the uploader stops reporting that as an NMU, then you should suggest policy to be changed to document that fact. Anyway, trust debian-policy, not me, as I don't have any diacritics in *my* name :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas If you spit in the air, it lands in your face. -- Tevye, in Fiddler on the roof -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: creating your own debian package repository
Eric Winger (2003-08-20 16:05:33 -0700) : > So, two questions: > > * Is this a reasonable way to maintain our internal packages - ie a > seperate archive? Or is there a better way. It's the best way I've found. > * If this is the most reasonable way, where is the information on > building/maintaining your own archive. I'll suggest you install the mini-dinstall package, and read its documentation. It works wonderfully for me, and it's more powerful than the dpkg-scanpackages stuff I've seen mentioned in your other answers. I use it in combination with dput (with an appropriate upload method), and it works like a charm. Roland. -- Roland Mas [...] ou une dent pourrie [...] -- in Variations sur un thème imposé -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°2, partie 2/3. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update: Patch needs Sponsor - List of easily NMUed RC bugs
Goswin von Brederlow (2003-08-24 12:42:35 +0200) : > By they way: > How do you claim a bug? How does/Can a non DD claim bugs? Read aj's message tto debian-devel-announce/No. > #196450 simplecdrx: FTBFS with g++-3.3: Missing include Done already. > #197214 libggi: FTBFS with gcc-3.3: Uses multiline strings Done already. > #195577 libnids: FTBFS with gcc-3.3: Uses multiline strings Done already. > #198317 pimppa: FTBFS with gcc-3.3: Uses multiline strings Done already. > #198113 stardict: FTBFS with g++-3.3 Done already. Well, still uploading, but done (and claimed anyway). > #184885 LSB 1.3 test suite failures Done already. Thanks again for the email, but please refresh the claims page before next one :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas C c ee lm re q j l a l l iè e . -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°1, partie 3/3. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need help: difficult NM / requestor
Roland Mas (2003-07-24 18:25:55 +0200) : [...] > After rehashing the arguments once or twice again, I submitted the > following proposal: if Eray fixes the four packages he's supposed to > be maintaining, and puts them into an honourable shape, I'll sponsor > at least one of them (even if I don't use any of them). Mark Brown > said he'd do the same. We then suggested Eray started work on his > packages rather than what was increasingly perceived as a watse of > everyone's time (including his) on IRC. Repeatedly. > > At some point, Robert McQueen set some channel bit I wasn't aware > of, which seemed to result in Eray not being able to talk. > > Anyway, the offer as it stands is this (fairly standard) sponsorhip > offer: Eray makes fixed packages, makes them available on a public > URL, posts this URL to debian-mentors (possibly Cc:ing me and/or Mark > Brown), and we sponsor these packages if they're good. If they're > good, and the bugs are fixed, we'll advertise that. If the packages > are very good, we'll say that publically too, and maybe advocate him > to the DAM. If they're not good, we'll also advertise that, and Eray > will be in an even more awkward position to bitch and demand than he > is now. For anyone interested: one month has passed. I've been away for holidays, but I found no email from Eray in my inbox when coming back. Roland. -- Roland Mas La tradition orale, c'est comme un vieux fromage [...] -- Le Blaire -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°2, partie 1/3. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need help: difficult NM / requestor
Roland Mas (2003-08-25 11:52:06 +0200) : > Roland Mas (2003-07-24 18:25:55 +0200) : > > [...] > >> Anyway, the offer as it stands is this (fairly standard) >> sponsorhip offer: Eray makes fixed packages, makes them available >> on a public URL, posts this URL to debian-mentors (possibly Cc:ing >> me and/or Mark Brown), and we sponsor these packages if they're >> good. If they're good, and the bugs are fixed, we'll advertise >> that. If the packages are very good, we'll say that publically >> too, and maybe advocate him to the DAM. If they're not good, we'll >> also advertise that, and Eray will be in an even more awkward >> position to bitch and demand than he is now. > > For anyone interested: one month has passed. I've been away for > holidays, but I found no email from Eray in my inbox when coming > back. Two months[1]. Still no email. Haven't seen him on IRC either. Roland. [1] Okay, two months minus one day, but I won't have net access for two or three days. -- Roland Mas Bonjour, je suis un virus de signature. Propagez-moi dans la vôtre ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: chtitle - Dinamically change the window title of a x-terminal
Daniel Ruoso, 2003-10-11 17:00:24 +0200 : > Description: Dinamically change the window title of a x-terminal > chtitle is a tiny utility to change the window title of a > x-terminal-emulator using a sequence of non printable characters. Any difference with "xtermset -T blah", apart from the implementation language? Roland. -- Roland Mas Bada, bada, ba-da-da-daaa, doudou, doudou, dou-dou-dou-dou-baaa. -- in Song without words #1 (Paul Leavitt) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFS: fai-bootcd
Niall Young, 2003-11-20 09:50:29 +0100 : > On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> Have you forwarded this to Klaus Knopper - does someone have a suitable >> address to mail it to? That would seem to me to be a useful thing to do. >> >> This also sounds like a potentially very useful "enterprise" related >> package. > > It's really got nothing to do with Knoppix at this stage, that's > just where I'd like to take it - standardise on a toolkit for making > live CDs. You may want to check out (and contribute to :-) Debix, which has a similar goal. Debix has a project on alioth.debian.org. Roland. -- Roland Mas C r ' s d a ue ell r a u i r . -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°1, partie 1/3. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Applicant w/ package
Andrew Suffield (2001-11-04 01:03:40 +) : > On Wed, Oct 31, 2001 at 05:30:57PM -0300, ReivaX wrote: >> Hi ppl in this nice list :) >> Im looking to be an applicant to debian developer. It seems i need an >> advocate... I want more info on how to get someone know about me.. >> I have packaged mplayer (the video player for X) with gui support and a >> default skin, ready to be used. > > You have got to be kidding. Read any one of the half a dozen prior > threads about this and how it cannot be packaged, due to license, > patent, and upstream arsehole issues. Maybe it would be worth listing it on the "can't be packaged" page at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/unable-to-package>? Roland. -- Roland Mas S'agirait pas d'atteindre la sublime transcendance du supramental sans se bouger le fion un minimum... -- in Sri Raoul le petit yogi (Gaudelette)
Re: sourceforge sucks
Yven Johannes Leist (2001-11-10 18:22:26 +0100) : > On Saturday 10 November 2001 18:13, Yven Johannes Leist wrote: >> das mit dem release könnte noch dauern, suckforge ist gerade grauenhaft >> langsam bis überhaupt nicht mehr responding :-(( > sorry for the inconvenience, this message was not supposed to go > here, I must have hit the wrong button. I don't understand much German, but it sounded like you're not very happy with Sourceforge.net. I can therefore only suggest you install your own Sourceforge, for which there is a package (maintained by yours truly). It's not as current as sf.net, obviously, since the upstream code hasn't been released for a while, but it works rather fine. Of course, if it doesn't, bug reports are welcome :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas Qu'est-ce qui est jaune, qui pèse deux cents kilos et qui chante ? Un sumotori qui a bu trop de saké.
dpkg-reconfigure, policy, and least surprise principle
Hi all, I'm confronted with a problem here, and I'd like your valuable advice. I suppose this problem has occurred before, but no obvious references to it are in the policy, or in the Debconf documentation. I have a package (let's call it sourceforge) that uses Debconf to ask a few questions at install time, and writes the results in a file in /etc/sourceforge/sourceforge.conf. There is a sourceforge-config script to turn this "master" config file into a set of Perl, PHP and Apache configuration files. According to policy, the postinst script does not overwrite local configuration: it only adds missing values to the sourceforge.conf file, and does not overwrite the ones already present. Upgrade thus does not overwrite local settings, and all is well. Except... Except when some user types "dpkg-reconfigure sourceforge". He then changes some values in Debconf, and the postinst is re-run like it would be for an upgrade. In other words: the new values typed in debconf are not used in the master configuration file, and obviously not transferred to the other files. The user is then greatly perplexed. On the one hand, I am not allowed to change sourceforge.conf on upgrade, and on the other hand the user expects a dpkg-reconfigure to really reconfigure his system. Yet both operations do the same thing (invoke postinst). What to do? A hypothetical third hand would be holding this: the postinst first reads the master config file and shoves its values into Debconf, then asks the debconf questions, then updates the sourceforge.conf file with the new values from Debconf. It sounds horribly messy, though, and I'm not sure it's doable without too much hackery. Anyone got a fourth hand? Please? Roland. -- Roland Mas Using a big hammer without caution can cause big damage. -- PostgreSQL documentation, chapter 42
Re: Bug #120311 and #118431
Speed Blue (2001-12-20 12:20:25 +0100) : > I have fix bug #120311 by a patch (I am not an official > developper) and this patch (corrected by apt team) fix also bug > #118431. How should I roceed ? merge the teo bug of send the patch > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?? Send the patch to one of these bugs (or even both if you like), and suggest that it also closes the other. The maintainer will then merge the bugs if they are really the same. If they are different problems that your patch fixes, he'll just close two bugs instead of one with his next upload. As a general rule, you should not act on bug reports. Add as much info as needed/useful, but do not close/merge/reassign/whatever a bug report, as it is the maintainer's job. Unless it's your bug report and you know it's either an error while submitting or you can prove that the bug has been fixed. Roland. -- Roland Mas Sauvez les castors, imprimez en recto-verso.
Re: Question about making architecture-independent fonts package
Matt Chisholm (2002-02-15 00:17:42 -0800) : > I have specified the architecture "any" in the control file, and > this is the correct choice for fonts. Ah. That depends. Is the package really architecture-independent? If it is, then the architecture has to be "all". The "any" architecture specifies that the binary package can be built on any architecture, the "all" means that the same (binary) package can be installed on all architectures. > Is this a problem? Should I ignore it? Only you can decide. Do you have i386-specific files in the binary package (the *.deb)? If yes, then no problem. > Will users on non-i386 be able to install this package? No. They will have to recompile it on their host architecture (or, if you upload your source package to Debian, they will have to wait for an autobuilder to build the appropriate arch-specific package). If it were "all", though, they would be able to install and use it just fine. Roland. -- Roland Mas Oshitemo damedara, hiite mina. -- Proverbe japonais
Re: Rebuilding successfully built arches
Josselin Mouette (2002-02-25 14:00:29 +0100) : > I have a problem with the frozen-bubble-lib package : due to a debhelper > bug, it has been built as an empty package on two arches (sparc and > powerpc), and marked as successfully built by buildd. > Is there a good way to tell buildd to rebuild these arches with the new > debhelper ? Upload a new version of the package, with a versioned Build-Depends: field in the control file. Roland. -- Roland Mas It would be hard to be deader without special training. -- in Theatre of Cruelty (Terry Pratchett)
Re: gpg passphrase and package building
christophe barbé (2002-07-24 11:47:50 -0400) : > When building a package, the description file and the changes file > are signed separately. > > Has anyone a good solution to type only one time his gpg passphrase > when building a package. Yep. You can install quintuple-agent, run it, and use the "-sgpg -pagpg" options for dpkg-buildpackage/debuild/whatever. Roland. -- Roland Mas -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s-: a-- C++ ULU++ P+++ L+++ E++ W+ N++ o K- w- O- M- V- PS++ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X- R !tv b++ DI+ D+ e+++ h r* y+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Control File
Zeno Davatz (2002-10-04 11:13:59 +0200) : > On 2.10.2002 19:28 Uhr, "Simon Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> The "i" in front of the comma. >> >> Simon > Thanks. Do you have an idea why my Debian still wants to install > apache-common when I make apt-get install php4? Maybe because php4 depends on a specific version of apache-common. You can't do versioned Provides: (yet), so apt uses one that is known to be the appropriate version. Roland. -- Roland Mas Death *was* hereditary. You got it from your ancestors. -- in Hogfather (Terry Pratchett)
Re: Looking for sponsor for several related packages
Kenneth Pronovici (2002-10-12 12:46:00 -0500) : >libsort-versions-perl >From a very selfish point of view, I'd like to ask whether this module has a function to compare versions with the exact same algorithm dpkg uses (upstream, debian revision, and characters such as + and ~ located where they belong in the ordering sequence). If so, then I'd be happy to sponsor that one (my use for it is a package currently using a compare_versions() subroutine that runs dpkg through system(), which is, well, yuk). I'm afraid that's the only one in which I have an interest, but if I can help you (and help the other potential sponsors by reducing the number of packages they'd have to check), then I'd be glad to. Roland. -- Roland Mas C c ee lm re q j l a l l iè e . -- Signatures à collectionner, série n°1, partie 3/3.
Re: Looking for sponsor for several related packages
Colin Watson (2002-10-13 03:33:51 +0100) : [...] > libapt-pkg-perl gives you AptPkg::Version, which has a compare() method. Good news for me, but probably bad news for Kenneth Pronovici, since I'm now more interested in libapt-pkg-perl than in libsort-versions-perl. Sorry Kenneth :-) Ah bah, my conscience kicks in and I hate myself for letting you down after an implied promise. I'll sponsor libsort-versions-perl if noone else steps up. Roland. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes n'ont qu'un oeil.
Re: How to detect if Sendmail/Postfix/Qmail is installed
John Price (2003-02-21 01:54:24 -0600) : > I'm considering packaging TPC from http://www.tpc.int, and it > requires configuring the MTA to accept email to specific > domain names. Needless to say, it's a fairly complicated > mail server configuration. > > In this case, should the package just document what the use > should do (it will be different for each MTA) or at least > detect which MTA is installed and copy an example config file > in the correct place for whichever MTA is installed? What I do for sourceforge (not the package currently in unstable) and gforge is this: the main package (sourceforge) depends on sourceforge-mta-exim | sourceforge-mta, and then I have sourceforge-mta-exim and sourceforge-mta-postfix pacakges. Depending on which one you install, then, you know what MTA to configure for. Roland. -- Roland Mas That's one of the good fings about not existin'; they leave you alone most of the time. -- in My Hero (Tom Holt)
Re: How to obtain current package version number?
Colin Watson (2003-03-04 14:06:07 +) :
> On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 02:14:59PM +0100, Bastian Kleineidam wrote:
[...]
>> # example: current bash version number
>> BASH_VERSION=`grep-available -P -s Version -n -r '^bash$'`
>
> That will be wrong in the event that somebody has run 'dselect
> update' but not yet upgraded.
How about the following?
BASH_VERSION=$(dpkg -s bash | awk '/^Version:/ { print $2 }')
Roland.
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Roland Mas
Il vaut mieux insulter une commode Louis XV qu'une armoire à glace.
Re: pgp 2.6.3i vs pgp5i vs gnupgp
Drew Scott Daniels (2003-03-17 16:05:50 -0600) : [...] > I've decided to carry a disk around with my key and have GnuPG on > all the various single user machines that I use. For what it's worth: I've been concerned with the physical security of the machines to which I have access, and I have followed a trend I had heard of: a small (64 MB) USB storage device, on which I store my private (and public too) keyrings, an entry in the appropriate /etc/auto.removable file (autofs), and a symlink from ~/.gnupg/id_lolando to /mnt/auto/removable/usb-key/.../id_lolando. Same for the public keyring, just in case. It works flawlessly, and it allows me to have my GnuPG private key on exactly zero machine, only on this USB key thing (don't worry, I also have backups). I have recently added SSH to the same scheme. Protects me from thieves, although not from trojaning. I assessed the risks :-) Oh, and also, when people see that black plastic thingy on my keychain, I'm allowed to tell them that's my digital keys :-) Roland. PS: Total cost is ~ 30 EUR, an hour for the initial setup (including errors), then 5 minutes for following setups on other machines. -- Roland Mas Just because you're dead doesn't mean they aren't still out to get you. -- Virgil, in Ye Gods! (Tom Holt)
Re: nautilus-media uploaded, Thanks to sponsor!
Johannes Rohr (2003-03-18 10:43:04 +0100) : > NOTE: The latest unofficial packages had Debian revision numbers > > 1. If you had one of them installed, you have to force a downgrade > to get the official package installed, since we considered it too > ugly to start with an epoch. There's nothing wrong with your first official package having a Debian revision number > 1, you know. You just have to be careful that your upload includes the .orig.tar.gz (debuild -sa, in other words). Roland. -- Roland Mas Such compressed poems / With seventeen syllables / Can't have much meaning... -- in Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid (Douglas Hofstadter)
Re: nautilus-media uploaded, Thanks to sponsor!
Andrew Stribblehill (2003-03-18 10:44:49 +) : > Quoting Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2003-03-18 10:20:04 GMT): [...] >> There's nothing wrong with your first official package having a >> Debian revision number > 1, you know. You just have to be careful >> that your upload includes the .orig.tar.gz (debuild -sa, in other >> words). > > It doesn't count in this case, but occasionally I miss a revision > number between uploads. What happens with closed bugs in the 'lost' > versions? They stay open, unless: - you close them by hand (mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]), or - you use the appropriate option for debuild/dpkg-buildpackage, which includes several chunks of changelog in the .changes file, which will then close the bugs. Read the manpages, I don't know the syntax. Roland. -- Roland Mas Just because you're dead doesn't mean they aren't still out to get you. -- Virgil, in Ye Gods! (Tom Holt)
Re: pgp 2.6.3i vs pgp5i vs gnupgp
Kevin Rosenberg (2003-03-20 12:40:17 -0700) : > Roland Mas wrote: >> It works flawlessly, and it allows me to have my GnuPG private >> key on exactly zero machine, only on this USB key thing (don't >> worry, I also have backups). I have recently added SSH to the same >> scheme. Protects me from thieves, although not from trojaning. I >> assessed the risks :-) > > I do the same. Additionally, I use the Debian cryptoapi and > cryptoloop kernel modules to encrypt the USB drive. I think the > chance of losing such a portable, small device is significant. With > encryption, I feel better about the possibility. I'm wondering whether this brings any additional security. Isn't the GPG private key stored in an encrypted form already? Or do the cryptoloop and cryptoapi modules offer more than 128-bit encryption? Roland. -- Roland Mas Au royaume des aveugles, les borgnes sont mal vus.
Re: Where can I get CVS space for collaborative maintenance?
Rene Engelhard (2003-03-26 02:27:46 +0100) : > Johannes Rohr wrote: >> So can anyone tell me, where to turn in search of CVS space? [...] > Well, normally, there is cvs.debian.org. > > But [...] it seems that it is closed anyway Its functionality is to be provided by the soon-to-be-announced Alioth (see http://alioth.debian.org/ for details). Roland. -- Roland Mas Qu'est-ce qui est petit, jaune et vachement dangereux ? Un canari avec le mot de passe de root.
Re: Should I sign up for New Maintainer even though I don't have an advodcate?
B. Douglas Hilton (2003-04-04 04:55:35 -0500) : [...] > I dunno. I remember submitting a bug report for Debian/Arm last year > because something trivial ( can't remember now ) was messed up. I > don't generally submit bug reports, because I generally don't have > any problems with Debian that I cannot fix with the vi editor and > abour 30 seconds of effort. This is probably what you should resolve to change. Report the bug, fix the package, send the patch. This is how you can contribute to Debian. [...] > Heh.. I know. But I live in the middle of the woods in Pennsylvania. > There are no real Debian developers anywhere close to me. That's a minor point. You only need to meet DDs once, to get your key signed. Afterwards, you can spend the rest of your life in a dark closet with just a power cord and network cable going out, and it'll make no difference to Debian. > It would be nice if there was a pre-applicant status where you could > laud your great Debian contributions until they built up enough for > somebody to notice. There are several such places. The bug-tracking system is one. The QA group is another. Bug-squashing parties, user help channels on IRC. Mailing-lists. Become active. Get some visibility. Make it so people know your name and what you do. Make it so that *one* person knows your name and what you do, it's enough and he'll probably advocate you. > Thats another issue. I don't want to be a Debian Maintainer, I want > to be a Debian Developer. A subtle difference, yet nonetheless > important. So you want to help Debian how? Just maintaining one package does not require Debian membership. Nor does it constitute grounds to be called "Debian Developer". What do you want to do that falls between "Maintainer" and "Developer"? You don't seem to want to report bugs. Or fix them. Or send patches. Or participate on the lists. Or get involved in any way but getting the possibility to scp your package straight into Sid. > No its not exactly like that, I just have been a Debian advocate for > so long, and I'm a good programmer, and I want to contribute. How? > But Debian is my passion and I love the OS and I want to work at it, > but you can only work for free for so long before you develop an > attitude, and every time I get an attitude I go inactive -- human > nature I suppose. And becoming a Debian Developer will change that how? You won't get any more recognition: you'll only impress Debian people (who don't care), other Linux people (who'll laugh at you for being Debian and not $OTHERDIST). The rest of the world doesn't care. > > Well, I've cooled off, and here I am trying again to join. I'm > somewhat saddened because of how long I have used Debian, and I > wouldn't use it if I didn't like it. I won't stop using it if I > don't become a DD, but I just think that I am quite the old Debian > expert, I know weird quirks about how it works and it is like second > nature to me. Great! So help fix the quirks! > When I went to DebConf2 [...] I was an outsider and thus did not > have the long term friendship and trust required. There were a lot > of cool people there, but the time was much to short to develop any > real friendships. You don't need "long term real friendship" to be advocated. Want me to advocate you? Read on. > HEY ... PICK ME ... etc etc ... :-) Getting Roland Mas to advocate you mini-HOWTO - 1. Find out about what my interests are. Tips: search what package(s) I maintain / have maintained / have NMUed. What packages I use and would like to work better (search for the bugs I have submitted). What packages I use, would like to work better, and have submitted patches to. What packages I would like to see packaged. 2. Find out how you can show the quality of your work to me. Tips: send patches to bug reports on my packages. Send patches to bug reports I submitted. Package the softwares I requested. 3. Repeat step 2. for a few weeks. 4. Ask me to advocate you. I will, unless you've been particularly obnoxious during the first three steps. Roland. -- Roland Mas All tribal myths are true, for a given value of 'true'. -- in The Last Continent (Terry Pratchett)
Re: A question about the application process
Deedra Waters (2003-04-24 10:21:58 -0400) : > My question is this. I tried submitting the application with out the > gpg key info to go ahead and get that part going as my > sponsor/advocate suggested, but the application thing came back > saying "there was an error processing my application" My question > is, did it go threw or not? I really can't tell by that message. Or > do I need to have the gpg key signed as well before I fill out the > application? I'd say you can submit a gpg key even if it is not signed, and get the signature later as part of the process. Roland. -- Roland Mas Shyumiribirikku ga susunde imashyou ka ? -- Le Schmilblick en japonais
Re: MPIO digital audio player support for Debian
Sebastien Phelep (2003-04-27 13:09:09 +0200) : > Hello, > > I own a MPIO digital audio player, and would like to create packages > for the MPIO Project (http://mpio.sourceforge.net/) utilities so > that the required software, libraries and kernel driver module may > be managed natively within Debian. [...] > So, I'm looking for a Debian mentor who would have kernel source > module / multiple debs from one source archive knowledge, and who > would be kind enough to help me get rid of these problems. I have made such a package (kernel-patch + userland tools for an ADSL modem on USB). I haven't been able to also provide precompiled kernel modules yet, but I might do it sometime. I'll be glad to have a look at your package sometime this week, but you'll have to post an URL first :-) Roland. -- Roland Mas Just because you're dead doesn't mean they aren't still out to get you. -- Virgil, in Ye Gods! (Tom Holt)
Re: Correct version numbering for pre-Versions?
Frank Küster (2003-04-30 13:25:48 +0200) : > Of course the cleanest way would be to have separate version > numbering for development and stable branches, like it is with the > linux kernel (but even there, things like 2.4.20-pre1 > exist). 1.1-pre2.3 or the like would also work, but all this means > upstream have to change their version numbering. What I do for one particular package I maintain (although it's not in the archive yet): upstream version 1.0.4-pre5 gets translated as 1.0.3.99+4pre5, which is >> 1.0.3.* and still << 1.0.4. uupdate can take an explicit version number as an argument, so you are not on your own when going from one upstream tarball to another. Your package version number doesn't have to use exactly the same numbering scheme as the upstream version number. Especially for prereleases. Roland. -- Roland Mas Death *was* hereditary. You got it from your ancestors. -- in Hogfather (Terry Pratchett)
Re: How to setup an apt archive?
Daniel Stone (2000-12-13 23:31:15 +1100) : > Hullo World(tm). Just writing to say that I'm in the tasks and skills check, > and I need to set up an apt-able archive. I have the packages and working > apache, are there any docs anywhere on how to set up an apt archive? Not sure about precise docs, but you can read the manpages for dpkg-scansources and dpkg-scanpackages. From these manpages I was able to hack up a small script to put files in the right places, then compute the Packages.gz and Sources.gz files (they seem to be all that's needed to have an apt-get-able dir). Available on demand. Roland. -- Roland Mas Certains disent que les vrais hommes ne font pas de backups. Mais ils disent aussi que même les vrais hommes pleurent parfois.
Re: How to setup an apt archive?
Daniel Stone (2000-12-13 23:31:15 +1100) : > Hullo World(tm). Just writing to say that I'm in the tasks and skills check, > and I need to set up an apt-able archive. I have the packages and working > apache, are there any docs anywhere on how to set up an apt archive? Not sure about precise docs, but you can read the manpages for dpkg-scansources and dpkg-scanpackages. From these manpages I was able to hack up a small script to put files in the right places, then compute the Packages.gz and Sources.gz files (they seem to be all that's needed to have an apt-get-able dir). Available on demand. Roland. -- Roland Mas Certains disent que les vrais hommes ne font pas de backups. Mais ils disent aussi que même les vrais hommes pleurent parfois. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
