Re: RFS: aegis (updated package, NMU)

2009-09-30 Thread Walter Franzini
Reinhard Tartler  writes:

[...]

> OK, NMU is uploaded to DELAYED/2, this means that it should reach the
> archive on tuesday.

Looking at https://buildd.debian.org/~luk/status/package.php?p=aegis
there are some dependencies installability problem:

* on kfreebsd-* fhist is missing due to  #414005 (still open after 2 years)

  I'll contact the maintainer.

* on ia64 and mips:

  aegis (= 4.24-5.1) build-depends on debhelper (>= 5) {debhelper (= 7.4.2)}
  debhelper (= 7.4.2) depends on dpkg-dev (>= 1.14.19) {dpkg-dev (= 1.15.4)}
  dpkg-dev (= 1.15.4) depends on perl-modules {perl-modules (= 5.10.1-4)}

  How should I handle the above problem?

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Re: RFS: aegis (updated package, NMU)

2009-09-30 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Walter Franzini  writes:
>
> Looking at https://buildd.debian.org/~luk/status/package.php?p=aegis
> there are some dependencies installability problem:
>
> * on kfreebsd-* fhist is missing due to  #414005 (still open after 2 years)
>
>   I'll contact the maintainer.

I'm CC'ing the kfreebsd porter list. Maybe they want to do an porter
NMU, or can give at least input how to solve this?

> * on ia64 and mips:
>
>   aegis (= 4.24-5.1) build-depends on debhelper (>= 5) {debhelper (= 7.4.2)}
>   debhelper (= 7.4.2) depends on dpkg-dev (>= 1.14.19) {dpkg-dev (= 1.15.4)}
>   dpkg-dev (= 1.15.4) depends on perl-modules {perl-modules (= 5.10.1-4)}
>
>   How should I handle the above problem?

I guess this is a transitional problem that can be resolved by the
debian-wb-team. (also CC'ed).

@debian-wb-team, can you confirm my guess? Is there anything that we can
or should do about this?


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RFS: ktikz

2009-09-30 Thread Florian Hackenberger
Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package "ktikz".

* Package name: ktikz
  Version : 0.9-1
  Upstream Author : [fill in name and email of upstream]
* URL : [fill in URL of upstreams web site]
* License : [fill in]
  Section : graphics

It builds these binary packages:
ktikz  - Editor for the TikZ language

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/ktikz
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable 
main contrib non-free
- dget 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/ktikz/ktikz_0.9-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Cheers,
 Florian Hackenberger

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RFS: ktikz

2009-09-30 Thread Florian Hackenberger
Dear mentors,

Sorry for the incomplete template email, here is the 'fixed' version.

I am looking for a sponsor for my package "ktikz".

* Package name: ktikz
  Version : 0.9-1
  Upstream Author : Florian Hackenberger
* URL : 
http://www.hackenberger.at/blog/ktikz-editor-for-the-tikz-language/
* License : GPLv2
  Section : graphics

It builds these binary packages:
ktikz  - Editor for the TikZ language

The package appears to be lintian clean.

The package can be found on mentors.debian.net:
- URL: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/ktikz
- Source repository: deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable 
main contrib non-free
- dget 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/ktikz/ktikz_0.9-1.dsc

I would be glad if someone uploaded this package for me.

Cheers,
 Florian Hackenberger

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Re: RFS: aegis (updated package, NMU)

2009-09-30 Thread Walter Franzini
Reinhard Tartler  writes:

> Walter Franzini  writes:
>>
>> Looking at https://buildd.debian.org/~luk/status/package.php?p=aegis
>> there are some dependencies installability problem:
>>
>> * on kfreebsd-* fhist is missing due to  #414005 (still open after 2 years)
>>
>>   I'll contact the maintainer.
>
> I'm CC'ing the kfreebsd porter list. Maybe they want to do an porter
> NMU, or can give at least input how to solve this?

#414005 contains a patch that should fix the problem.

basically s...@linux/sta...@sys/stat.h@

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Re: RFS: ktikz

2009-09-30 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Florian Hackenberger  [090930 10:57]:
> I am looking for a sponsor for my package "ktikz".
>
> http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/k/ktikz/ktikz_0.9-1.dsc

Just the most obvious stuff from a cursory look:
- DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=noopt does not work (it still does -O2)
- debian/copyright does not list copyright or license of src/lineedit.cpp
- debian/menu has a pre-lenny section
- debian/dirs has usr/sbin. I do not think you need that.
- the manpage is a joke
- if your README.Debian has nothing to say, delete the file

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Unit tests and application data

2009-09-30 Thread Wolodja Wentland
Hi all,

i am trying to package an Python application that ships unit tests and
application data. I am unsure how this should be handled on Debian.

The application contains some nose test scripts and data that are
installed into PREFIX/share/foo/test/{scripts,data}. Is this the
appropriate place in Debian?

Furthermore it also installs application data into
PREFIX/share/foo/data. The data is unlikely to change, but could be
replaced by newer versions whenever the system administrator decides to
do so. Is '/usr/share/foo/data' correct for data like this?

thanks for all the fish

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Re: Unit tests and application data

2009-09-30 Thread Ben Finney
Wolodja Wentland  writes:

> The application contains some nose test scripts and data that are
> installed into PREFIX/share/foo/test/{scripts,data}. Is this the
> appropriate place in Debian?

Probably the unit test suite and its data is inappropriate for
installation by the binary package, since regular users won't use it and
anyone intending to understand how the program operates or to modify it
will want the source package anyway. Keep it in the source package, but
omit it from the binary.

If the distribution is done using Python's Distutils, then this should
be configured by upstream: the configuration of ‘setup.py’ should
include all files for the ‘sdist’, but deliberately omit the test suite
and its data from installation.

> Furthermore it also installs application data into
> PREFIX/share/foo/data. The data is unlikely to change, but could be
> replaced by newer versions whenever the system administrator decides
> to do so. Is '/usr/share/foo/data' correct for data like this?

Yes. Newer package releases can of course replace files installed by
older releases of the package (exception: conffiles), and for files that
don't change during the lifetime of a particular release,
‘/usr/share/foo/’ is correct.

You might want to consult the latest versions of FHS and Debian Policy
to get more details on the appropriate places for files by their
intended purpose.

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Re: Unit tests and application data

2009-09-30 Thread Wolodja Wentland
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:10 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> Wolodja Wentland  writes:
> If the distribution is done using Python's Distutils, then this should
> be configured by upstream: the configuration of ‘setup.py’ should
> include all files for the ‘sdist’, but deliberately omit the test suite
> and its data from installation.

Thanks for the explanation!

A short question though: Running the tests would entail that all
python-modules used by any given library or application would end up as
build dependencies of the package. 

The dependencies of the application in question here are very modest
(python-progressbar) but this could be problematic if the test suite
requires a lot of other modules or even running and configured services
(DB, Web server, ...). How is this usually handled?

> > Furthermore it also installs application data into
> > PREFIX/share/foo/data. The data is unlikely to change, but could be
> > replaced by newer versions whenever the system administrator decides
> > to do so. Is '/usr/share/foo/data' correct for data like this?

> Yes. Newer package releases can of course replace files installed by
> older releases of the package (exception: conffiles), and for files that
> don't change during the lifetime of a particular release,
> ‘/usr/share/foo/’ is correct.

> You might want to consult the latest versions of FHS and Debian Policy
> to get more details on the appropriate places for files by their
> intended purpose.

I already read the FHS and am unsure whether '/usr/share/foo' or
'/var/lib/foo' is the appropriate place. There might even be a better
one :-)

The data is not necessarily needed by the application/library but
significantly enhances its functionality. It is therefore packaged by
upstream as an additional foo-data distribution and will be packaged in
Debian as an additional package.

The data *might* change during the lifetime of the release which is
unlikely but possible. A system administrator might want to update these
data files without having a new release from upstream. I think this is
unlikely to happen but it is a possible scenario.

/var/lib/foo-data does not seem to be the appropriate place for these
files as the data is not state information that is modified while the
application/library is used.

/usr/share/foo-data looks more promising if it were not for the fact
that an administrator could want to update these files without having a
corresponding upstream release of foo-data.

My intuition tells me that /usr/share/foo-data is the appropriate place
and that updated information should be considered a bug which, once
filed and processes, will trigger a new release of foo-data. Is this
more or less correct?

kind regards

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Re: Unit tests and application data

2009-09-30 Thread Ben Finney
Wolodja Wentland  writes:

> The data is not necessarily needed by the application/library but
> significantly enhances its functionality. It is therefore packaged by
> upstream as an additional foo-data distribution and will be packaged
> in Debian as an additional package.
>
> The data *might* change during the lifetime of the release which is
> unlikely but possible. A system administrator might want to update
> these data files without having a new release from upstream. I think
> this is unlikely to happen but it is a possible scenario.

The system administrator *might* decide to change any file they like;
that doesn't affect the decision of where the operating system should
install those files. The question is how those files are treated by the
operating system.

If the files are static data that the programs should not modify (with
the already noted exception of package installation and upgrade), then
‘/usr/share/foo/’ is a good place for them.

> /var/lib/foo-data does not seem to be the appropriate place for these
> files as the data is not state information that is modified while the
> application/library is used.

Correct, ‘/var/’ is not the right place for static data files.

> My intuition tells me that /usr/share/foo-data is the appropriate
> place and that updated information should be considered a bug which,
> once filed and processes, will trigger a new release of foo-data. Is
> this more or less correct?

You've said that the ‘foo-data’ package will be data solely intended for
use with the ‘foo’ package. In that case, they should not be installed
to ‘/usr/share/foo-data/’ since that implies they're conceptually
separate from ‘foo’. Rather, ‘/usr/share/foo/’ seems the right place to
me.

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Re: Unit tests and application data

2009-09-30 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 12:43:38PM +0200, Wolodja Wentland a écrit :
> 
> A short question though: Running the tests would entail that all
> python-modules used by any given library or application would end up as
> build dependencies of the package. 
> 
> The dependencies of the application in question here are very modest
> (python-progressbar) but this could be problematic if the test suite
> requires a lot of other modules or even running and configured services
> (DB, Web server, ...). How is this usually handled?

Dear Wolodja,

I think that having test results in the build logs is very valuable, and that
it is worth enlarging the build dependencies to acheive that. Note however that
the network is not always accessible from our build daemons. Tests requiring
the network have to be disabled, but I strongly recommend that you run them
locally before you upload your package.

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Re: RFS: qwit (updated package)

2009-09-30 Thread Carlos Galisteo
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Patrick Matthäi  wrote:
> Hello,

 Hello Patrick. Thanks for your help.

> there are some issues:
> 1) interdiff states much more changes as you described in your changelog
> (e.g. debian/rules).

 There are big upstream changes, but debian dir doesn't change very much.

 Find attached a diff file comparing the new debian dir with the previous one

 How do you find changes in debian/rules? This particular file is
untouched. Interdiff seems to think that *everything* is new...I'm a
little lost here.

> 2) It is not a new upstream version, it is a new svn snapshot and please
> describe the upstream issue in your changelog, like:
>  * New upstream svn snapshot.
>    - Fixes issue X, where it does not update bar.
>  * Next entry.

 You're right. With 'new version' I meant 'first package built from
the future stable branch' :).
 I've rephrased and detailed changes in a new package already uploaded
to mentors. [1]

> 3):
> make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/buildd/qwit-1.0+svn255'
> /usr/bin/uic-qt4 src/MainWindow.ui -o var/ui_MainWindow.h
> make[1]: svnversion: Command not found
> for every line, is this wanted?

 It replaces the 'revision' property with the svn 'head' revision
number for each file.

 I guess this is not _needed_ but _wanted_ either by the upstream or
by the IDE. Obviously, 'subversion' should be added to Build-depends
in order to fix this errors (not done yet), but I don't find this is
very elegant.

 The other option is to talk with upstream about "how much does he
need it" and come to an agreement with him (he is quite nice and
responsive).

Regards.

[1] http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/q/qwit/qwit_1.0+svn255-1.dsc

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diff -ru /tmp/qwit-0.9/debian/changelog debian/changelog
--- /tmp/qwit-0.9/debian/changelog	2009-09-29 18:35:03.0 +0200
+++ debian/changelog	2009-09-30 12:13:22.0 +0200
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+qwit (1.0+svn255-1) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * New upstream svn snapshot providing some bug fixes and new features:
+- Upstream moved to 1.x branch.
+- Fixes 'Twitpocalypse' related bugs (int limit reached).
+- Url shorteners support.
+- Multiple accounts support.
+- Identi.ca and other twitter-compatible services support.
+  * Updated Standards-Version to 3.8.3 No change needed.
+  * Added README.source file.
+  * Crystal Project Icons license detailed in debian/copyright.
+
+ -- Carlos Galisteo   Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:58:18 +0200
+
 qwit (0.9-1) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * Initial release (Closes: #528189)
diff -ru /tmp/qwit-0.9/debian/control debian/control
--- /tmp/qwit-0.9/debian/control	2009-09-29 18:35:03.0 +0200
+++ debian/control	2009-09-29 17:00:24.0 +0200
@@ -3,7 +3,7 @@
 Priority: extra
 Maintainer: Carlos Galisteo 
 Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7), quilt, txt2man, qt4-qmake, libqt4-dev
-Standards-Version: 3.8.2
+Standards-Version: 3.8.3
 Homepage: http://code.google.com/p/qwit/
 
 Package: qwit
diff -ru /tmp/qwit-0.9/debian/copyright debian/copyright
--- /tmp/qwit-0.9/debian/copyright	2009-09-29 18:35:03.0 +0200
+++ debian/copyright	2009-09-30 11:17:29.0 +0200
@@ -20,6 +20,9 @@
 TwitPicDialog.cpp, TwitPicDialog.h:
 Copyright (C) 2009 Roopesh Chander 
 
+Crystal Project Icons:
+Copyright (C) 2009 Everaldo Coelho 
+
 License:
 
 This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
@@ -38,6 +41,14 @@
 the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor,
 Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA.
 
+The Crystal Project Icons are released under LGPL:
+
+You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License with
+your Debian GNU system, in /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL, or with the
+Debian GNU hello source package as the file COPYING.  If not, write to
+the Free Software Foundation, Inc., 51 Franklin Street, Fifth Floor,
+Boston, MA 02110-1301 USA.
+
 
 



Re: RFS: qwit (updated package)

2009-09-30 Thread Patrick Matthäi
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Carlos Galisteo schrieb:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Patrick Matthäi  wrote:
>> Hello,
> 
>  Hello Patrick. Thanks for your help.
> 
>> there are some issues:
>> 1) interdiff states much more changes as you described in your changelog
>> (e.g. debian/rules).
> 
>  There are big upstream changes, but debian dir doesn't change very much.
> 
>  Find attached a diff file comparing the new debian dir with the previous one

Hm right, interdiff blows up :o

diff is clear now against your changes.

> 
>  How do you find changes in debian/rules? This particular file is
> untouched. Interdiff seems to think that *everything* is new...I'm a
> little lost here.
> 
>> 2) It is not a new upstream version, it is a new svn snapshot and please
>> describe the upstream issue in your changelog, like:
>>  * New upstream svn snapshot.
>>- Fixes issue X, where it does not update bar.
>>  * Next entry.
> 
>  You're right. With 'new version' I meant 'first package built from
> the future stable branch' :).
>  I've rephrased and detailed changes in a new package already uploaded
> to mentors. [1]

Now it is fine.

> 
>> 3):
>> make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/buildd/qwit-1.0+svn255'
>> /usr/bin/uic-qt4 src/MainWindow.ui -o var/ui_MainWindow.h
>> make[1]: svnversion: Command not found
>> for every line, is this wanted?
> 
>  It replaces the 'revision' property with the svn 'head' revision
> number for each file.
> 
>  I guess this is not _needed_ but _wanted_ either by the upstream or
> by the IDE. Obviously, 'subversion' should be added to Build-depends
> in order to fix this errors (not done yet), but I don't find this is
> very elegant.
> 
>  The other option is to talk with upstream about "how much does he
> need it" and come to an agreement with him (he is quite nice and
> responsive).

Try it out :)

> 
> Regards.
> 
> [1] http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/q/qwit/qwit_1.0+svn255-1.dsc
> 
> 

Uploaded.

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Re: RFS: qwit (updated package)

2009-09-30 Thread Carlos Galisteo
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Patrick Matthäi  wrote:

> Uploaded.

 Great, I'll talk with upstream about svnversion, but in the meanwhile
don't you think it should build-depends on subversion?

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Re: RFS: qwit (updated package)

2009-09-30 Thread Patrick Matthäi
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Carlos Galisteo schrieb:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 5:42 PM, Patrick Matthäi  wrote:
> 
>> Uploaded.
> 
>  Great, I'll talk with upstream about svnversion, but in the meanwhile
> don't you think it should build-depends on subversion?

It would be nice but it does not seem to be needed, it also does not FTBFS.

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Re: RFS: qwit (updated package)

2009-09-30 Thread Carlos Galisteo
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Patrick Matthäi  wrote:
>>  Great, I'll talk with upstream about svnversion, but in the meanwhile
>> don't you think it should build-depends on subversion?
>
> It would be nice but it does not seem to be needed, it also does not FTBFS.

OK. Thank you one more time.



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Re: RFS: aegis (updated package, NMU)

2009-09-30 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:14:20AM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> > * on ia64 and mips:
> >
> >   aegis (= 4.24-5.1) build-depends on debhelper (>= 5) {debhelper (= 7.4.2)}
> >   debhelper (= 7.4.2) depends on dpkg-dev (>= 1.14.19) {dpkg-dev (= 1.15.4)}
> >   dpkg-dev (= 1.15.4) depends on perl-modules {perl-modules (= 5.10.1-4)}
> >
> >   How should I handle the above problem?
> 
> I guess this is a transitional problem that can be resolved by the
> debian-wb-team. (also CC'ed).

perl is currently uninstallable on those arches.  It will
automaticly be build when perl is installable again.


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Re: Upload of a non-latest upstream version?

2009-09-30 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Mon, 28.09.2009 at 15:50:28 -0700, Ludovico Cavedon 
 wrote:
> the latest upstream version (0.8.2) depends on python-iniparse, which
> has been in ITP for quite a long time. Version 0.8, instead, has not
> such dependency. Moreover I had to repackage 0.8 to make it
> debian-policy compliant, while future versions (from 0.8.1) will not
> need the repackaging.

you can also try to prod the person who filed the ITP on
python-iniparse, or suggest to him to take it over, to get it finally
into Debian.


Kind regards,
--Toni++


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Re: Upload of a non-latest upstream version?

2009-09-30 Thread Ludovico Cavedon
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Toni Mueller  wrote:
> you can also try to prod the person who filed the ITP on
> python-iniparse, or suggest to him to take it over, to get it finally
> into Debian.

Yes, I also following this path in parallel...

Thanks,
Ludovico


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