problems with bug #338269

2005-11-12 Thread Tommaso Moroni
Hi!

I'm having some problems squashing this bug:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=338269

Since a couple of weeks ago knights was working without problems
I think it could be caused by some library which it depends on.

Do you have any advice about it?
Does anybody experienced a similar breakage?


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Re: problems with bug #338269

2005-11-12 Thread Steve Langasek
block 338269 by 336114
thanks

On Sat, Nov 12, 2005 at 10:10:44AM +0100, Tommaso Moroni wrote:

> I'm having some problems squashing this bug:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=338269

> Since a couple of weeks ago knights was working without problems
> I think it could be caused by some library which it depends on.

> Do you have any advice about it?
> Does anybody experienced a similar breakage?

Probably bug #336114.

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PGP and GPG keys...

2005-11-12 Thread Daniel Widenfalk

Hi,

I'm currently ramping up to help Hakan Ardo mantaining the
toolchain-source package. I have already mailed him about it
and he's very happy to get help :-). Now to my question:

I have, and use, PGP 8.1 from PGP Corporation and have a key(s)
there which I use to encrypt and/or sign email with. Can I use
this key in the debian project, or do I have to create a new
GPG key?

I saw somewhere that PGP keys are depreciated as PGP uses
algorithms that are not DSFG-free. However, are not the keys
themselves just a private/public key-pairs which should be
usable together with GPG? I would really like to be able to
reuse my PGP key in the debian project. Can I use some sort
of conversion tool to create a GPG-keyfile from my PGP-key?

I know that I can decrypt/verify files encrypted/signed with
GPG using my installed PGP, is the inverse is true?

Regards
/Daniel Widenfalk


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Re: RFS: ksudoku -- sudoku puzzle generator/solver

2005-11-12 Thread Christoph Haas
Ryan...

thanks for your patience. :)

On Saturday 12 November 2005 03:16, Ryan Schultz wrote:
> On Friday 11 November 2005 02:30 pm, Christoph Haas wrote:
> > My bad. Indeed there is a ksudoku.desktop file which is installed.
> > IMHO in the wrong place though. It should be located in
> > /usr/share/applications instead. (Although I admit I don't know where
> > that's properly documented in the policy. Perhaps someone else has a
> > pointer.)
>
> I found a message[1] on debian-kde mentioning this; seems to be an XDG
> file location thing. I've moved it; however, it seems like kdevelop,
> KDE's IDE, defaults to installing there, so who knows?

I still need to learn about that. XDG doesn't ring a bell. And I couldn't 
find /usr/share/applications by grep'ing through the whole /etc. I really 
need to dig deeper into this.

Unfortunately your package doesn't show up in a menu here - except the ugly 
default "Debian" submenu. So the menu entry is correct but the desktop 
specification seems wrong. I just looked at "your" .desktop file:

[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=ksudoku
Name[xx]=xxksudokuxx
Exec=ksudoku %i %m -caption "%c"
Icon=ksudoku
Type=Application
DocPath=ksudoku/ksudoku.html
Comment=A KDE KPart Application
Comment[ca]=Una aplicació KPart per a KDE
...

This looks like a template which has been edited a bit carelessly.
"A KDE KPart Application" should rather be "Sudoku Puzzle 
generator/solver". And 'xx' is no language I have ever heard of.
And the reason it doesn't show up in my KDE menu is probably that the 
category is not defined. Look at an example file from my 'cream' package:

[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Application
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Cream
Comment=Edit text files
Comment[de]=Textdateien editieren
TryExec=cream
Exec=cream %F
MimeType=text/plain
Categories=Application;Utility;TextEditor;
Icon=/usr/share/pixmaps/cream.xpm

This application is shown in the "Editors" K-menu.

I do not claim to be a guru regarding desktop specification files. But 
since your package is mainly designed for KDE I would love it to show up 
in the K-menu menu under "Games/...".

By the way... you can find the desktop specificaton at:
http://freedesktop.org/Standards/desktop-entry-spec

The available categories are listed in Appendix A of:
http://www.freedesktop.org/Standards/menu-spec

I vote for something like "LogicGame".

> I've found that KDE actually seems to have some magic to do this without
> being told (like with 'make install'), but I don't think GNOME will.

I've started using desktop files with KDE 3.3 and it didn't have such 
magic. I needed to logout and login again. Please try removing and 
installing the package and look whether the menu items appears and 
disappears. Users won't like to restart their session just because they 
installed a new application. There is a reason Debian's logo is not a 
four-colored flag. ;)

Once the desktop file is fixed I promise I'll upload your package.

 Christoph
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Re: RFS: ksudoku -- sudoku puzzle generator/solver

2005-11-12 Thread Ryan Schultz
On Saturday 12 November 2005 08:28 am, Christoph Haas wrote:
> > I found a message[1] on debian-kde mentioning this; seems to be an XDG
> > file location thing. I've moved it; however, it seems like kdevelop,
> > KDE's IDE, defaults to installing there, so who knows?
>
> I still need to learn about that. XDG doesn't ring a bell. And I couldn't
> find /usr/share/applications by grep'ing through the whole /etc. I really
> need to dig deeper into this.
>
> Unfortunately your package doesn't show up in a menu here - except the ugly
> default "Debian" submenu. So the menu entry is correct but the desktop
> specification seems wrong.

Upstream wasn't very vigorous about editing the KDevelop defaults, I see :- )  
I've written a new Desktop file; I'll include it in the package for now and 
send it upstream as well. I went with a simpler description so I could reuse 
the translations from other KDE games. 

New revision uploaded. We should be ready to go now! :- D

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Re: RFS: ksudoku -- sudoku puzzle generator/solver

2005-11-12 Thread Christoph Haas
On Saturday 12 November 2005 18:17, Ryan Schultz wrote:
> Upstream wasn't very vigorous about editing the KDevelop defaults, I see
> :- ) I've written a new Desktop file; I'll include it in the package for
> now and send it upstream as well. I went with a simpler description so I
> could reuse the translations from other KDE games.

The translations are... interesting. A description which refers to the real 
nature of ksudoku might have been better.

> New revision uploaded. We should be ready to go now! :- D

You will hardly believe it... your package has just been uploaded.

One thing which I'd like to ask to to keep investigating. The menu item now 
shows up in K/Games. But it's the only games which does not appear in
K/Games/Arcade or K/Games/BoardGames. What I mean is that all other games 
are in submenus - just ksudoku is not. I'm not sure whether the LogicGame 
category is unsupported. Since we didn't get any help here please ask in 
debian-devel. I'll upload a new revision once this is sorted out. Please 
contact me for updates.

Thanks for your contribution.

 Christoph
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Re: PGP and GPG keys...

2005-11-12 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Daniel Widenfalk [Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:19:09 +0100]:

> I have, and use, PGP 8.1 from PGP Corporation and have a key(s)
> there which I use to encrypt and/or sign email with. Can I use
> this key in the debian project, or do I have to create a new
> GPG key?

  After asking around a bit on IRC, I got:

- from http://www.debian.org/devel/join/nm-step2, "Each Applicant
  must provide an OpenPGP version 4 public key with encryption
  capabilities."

- somebody mentioning that "a PGP5 key would be fine".

  Searching in keyservers, I see several keys for "Daniel Widenfalk",
  but the e-mail address do not match yours, and they seem standard 1024
  bit DSA keys.

  Perhaps if you post your keyid somebody can take a look and tell you
  whether it's fine or not?

  Cheers,

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Re: RFS: ksudoku -- sudoku puzzle generator/solver

2005-11-12 Thread Ryan Schultz
On Saturday 12 November 2005 12:55 pm, Christoph Haas wrote:
> The translations are... interesting. A description which refers to the real
> nature of ksudoku might have been better.

They should all come out to, basically, "Sudoku Game." The English name does 
mention that it is a solver as well. I based them on the translations from 
KSokoban... I figured it would be better to have some translations, even if 
they weren't perfect, than to have none at all.

> You will hardly believe it... your package has just been uploaded.

This has been a fast upload for me, actually. I have bad luck picking 
applications to package, they always require tinkering :- D

> One thing which I'd like to ask to to keep investigating. The menu item now
> shows up in K/Games. But it's the only games which does not appear in
> K/Games/Arcade or K/Games/BoardGames. What I mean is that all other games
> are in submenus - just ksudoku is not. I'm not sure whether the LogicGame
> category is unsupported. Since we didn't get any help here please ask in
> debian-devel. I'll upload a new revision once this is sorted out. Please
> contact me for updates.

LogicGame is, indeed, unsupported, even in the KDE in experimental. I love 
these desktop standards, there are so many to choose from... What do you 
think, should I leave it as a LogicGame and hope that this is fixed in future 
KDEs, or move it into an inaccurate category like StrategyGame (the only 
other category in KDE that is close to what Sudoku is)? I'm inclined to leave 
it in LogicGame, since I have several packages installed that already put 
their icons at K/Games.

Thanks for sponsoring!

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Re: PGP and GPG keys...

2005-11-12 Thread Neil Williams
On Saturday 12 November 2005 11:19 am, Daniel Widenfalk wrote:
> I have, and use, PGP 8.1 from PGP Corporation and have a key(s)
> there which I use to encrypt and/or sign email with. Can I use
> this key in the debian project, or do I have to create a new
> GPG key?

1. Create a temporary gnupg key (don't send the temporary one to keyservers) 
and try to sign your PGP key. (You can delete the signature later as long as 
you don't send your PGP key to a keyserver in the meantime.) This tests 
whether other DD's can sign your key using gnupg.

2. Does your key already meet the requirement of being signed by a DD? If it 
doesn't and test 1 fails, you would be better off with a new key - a gnupg 
key.

If test 1 does fail but you have a signature already, ask on gnupg-users about 
what is wrong in your PGP key and how to fix it.

> I saw somewhere that PGP keys are depreciated as PGP uses
> algorithms that are not DSFG-free.

Specifically, IDEA. I can't help without the keyID and some of your questions 
may be better answered on the gnupg-users mailing list.

There's no problem with having more than one key - as long as the one you use 
for Debian work is signed by a current DD. (e.g. I have two gnupg keys.)

> However, are not the keys 
> themselves just a private/public key-pairs which should be
> usable together with GPG?

You may have to remove encrypting / signing subkeys that use IDEA. A simple 
way to find this out is to import your PGP public and private key into GnuPG. 
Then create a test message in PGP that is encrypted to your own key (only) 
and try to decrypt that in GnuPG. It may just be a case of changing the 
algorithm preferences in your PGP setup and re-exporting the key. Then repeat 
the process encrypting using GnuPG and decrypting in PGP.

> I would really like to be able to 
> reuse my PGP key in the debian project. Can I use some sort
> of conversion tool to create a GPG-keyfile from my PGP-key?

GnuPG, by default, is DSFG compliant because it supports the OpenPGP standard 
without using IDEA. If GnuPG can use the key without the non-DSFG compliant 
IDEA plugin, then you shouldn't have problems. Many PGP keys can be used in 
gnupg, it comes down to whether you need to retain support for the non-free 
IDEA.

> I know that I can decrypt/verify files encrypted/signed with
> GPG using my installed PGP, is the inverse is true?

You'll have to try it and find out.

"GnuPG and newer PGP releases should be implementing the OpenPGP standard. But 
there are some interoperability problems"
http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/faqs.html#q1.2

The same FAQ has plenty of solutions for those interoperability problems.

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Re: PGP and GPG keys...

2005-11-12 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Adeodato Simó in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   Perhaps if you post your keyid somebody can take a look and tell you
>   whether it's fine or not?

The "official" test is:

GPGOPTS=" -q --no-options --no-default-keyring --no-auto-check-trustdb 
--keyring $DESTDIR/nm.gpg --trust-model always"

echo "Let's test if its a version 4 or greater key"
VERSION=$(gpg ${GPGOPTS} --with-colons --with-fingerprint --list-keys 0x$KEYID 
| awk -F : '$1 == "fpr" {print length($10)}')

if [ $VERSION -eq 32 ]; then
echo "Warning: It looks like this key is an Version 3 GPG key. This is 
bad."
echo "This is not accepted for the NM ID Step. Please doublecheck and 
then"
echo "get your applicant to send you a correct key if this is script 
isnt wrong."
else
echo "Key is ok"
fi

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Question about skim.

2005-11-12 Thread sebastien marbrier
Hello dear Mentors,
 I am a scim user but I am also a KDE fan so I need the skim package. 
I noticed that skim is preparation for more than a year now, so I guess its 
current maintainer forget it. Is there a way I may be sponsored for packaging 
an up-to-date version of skim ?
I can't find the e-mail address of the current maintainer, I only saw the 
names of Mr Osamu Aoki and Mr Christoph Berg but none of them seem to be the 
maintainer.

I also have another question, I am currently under sarge I can't afford to 
have a broken distribution because I use sarge for my work.
I have two solutions, the first one is to install both sarge and sid but this 
is a dirty work, I am also thinking about making the packages in a chrooted 
environnement but I have never done that so far.
Can you give some advice please ?

Thanks for your help.
   Marbrier Sébastien.



Re: Question about skim.

2005-11-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2005-11-13, sebastien marbrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have two solutions, the first one is to install both sarge and sid but this 
> is a dirty work, I am also thinking about making the packages in a chrooted 
> environnement but I have never done that so far.
> Can you give some advice please ?

A chroot is a nice solution - I use it for many things.

the program 'debootstrap' can help you building a chroot.

just:
mkdir sid-chroot
sudo debootstrap sid sid-chroot http://yournearestmirror.
sudo chroot sidchroot

in here, you can create a user account, install packages and whatever
you like.

/Sune


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Re: Question about skim.

2005-11-12 Thread Ming Hua
On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 01:44:52AM +0100, sebastien marbrier wrote:
> Hello dear Mentors,
>  I am a scim user but I am also a KDE fan so I need the skim package. 
> I noticed that skim is preparation for more than a year now, so I guess its 
> current maintainer forget it.

The current maintainer is actually working on the package quite
actively.  I know he uploads his packaging work to mentors.debian.net
regularly, and indeed there's the recently released version 1.4.3 [1].

[snipped]
> I can't find the e-mail address of the current maintainer, I only saw the 
> names of Mr Osamu Aoki and Mr Christoph Berg but none of them seem to be the 
> maintainer.

You need to look at the owner of the ITP bug [2] to find the
maintainer, William J Beksi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.  Osamu Aoki
only submitted a RFP, William later changed it to ITP and became the
owner of the ITP bug #278275.  The other bug merged with it, #309857, is
submiited by William as well.

1. http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/skim/
2. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=278275 

Ming
2005.11.12


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