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Re: Executing with root priviliges

[David A. Riggs]

Eike "zyro" Sauer wrote:

Goswin von Brederlow schrieb:


There is also "ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -X foobar".



...and kdesu...



Right, thanks, but that's really not my point though...Does
anyone have any feed back on my real question (quoted below),
or should I ask on debian.devel?

The real question:

> So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
> package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
> priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
> into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
> the packager and the user?



--
- David A. Riggs 

Re: Executing with root priviliges

[Eike \"zyro\" Sauer]

David A. Riggs schrieb:
> The real question:
> 
>  > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
>  > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
>  > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
>  > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
>  > the packager and the user?

Sounds reasonable enough to me to be put in d.devel.general.

Ciao,
Eike

RFS: cdw - console and GUI based cd writer

[GCS]

Dear Mentors,

 I am looking for a sponsor of the cdw packages I have recreated as the
previous maintainer was unresponsive it was removed from Debian[1].
But first, facts about the package:
* Package name: cdw
  Version : 0.2.3
  Upstream Author : Balazs Varkonyi (vbali) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://cdw.sf.net/
* License : GPL v2
  Description : Tool for burning CD's

Ncurses-based frontend for cdrecord and mkisofs. It can handle audio and
data CD burning, through a CD image or directly from the files.

I am not new to packaging, but this is my first multi binary package
even if it's lintian clean, and I have passed all steps depending on me
for becoming a Debian Developer[2]. So I would like to ask around if I
do everything correctly, and later someone to upload it for me. The
package is available from m.d.n[3], my repository[4] and from my web
page[5].

Basically the package builds as follows:
- create a build-tree/ with cdw/ and gcdw/ subdirs under debian/
- configure both binary packages into them, and make the packages there
- make install the cdw package into debian/tmp/ , and copy the gcdw
  binary from it's compilation (gcdw contains GTK+ based GUI support)
- use dh_install to separate the files to multiple binary packages, and
  do all the stuff to create the deb's
Does this sound reasonable?

I think I have two mistakes:
- cdw-common should not depend either on cdw or gcdw
- cdw and gcdw may conflict with each other, as gcdw also contains
  console support (and needs the -g flag to actually start in GUI mode,
  so I may hack it to start in GUI mode if called as gcdw)

Question (but I will re-read the relevant policy section): why the
package menus do not show up under Gnome2.6? IMO the section may be
wrong.

Thanks for the help in advance,
Laszlo/GCS
[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=228452
[2] http://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=gcs%40lsc.hu
[3]
deb http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free
[4]
deb http://www.lsc.hu/ packages/
deb-src http://www.lsc.hu/ packages/
[5] http://www.lsc.hu/packages/list.php

Re: Executing with root priviliges

[Goswin von Brederlow]

"David A. Riggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Eike "zyro" Sauer wrote:
>> Goswin von Brederlow schrieb:
>>
>>>There is also "ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -X foobar".
>> ...and kdesu...
>
>
> Right, thanks, but that's really not my point though...Does
> anyone have any feed back on my real question (quoted below),
> or should I ask on debian.devel?
>
> The real question:
>
>  > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
>  > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
>  > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
>  > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
>  > the packager and the user?

Get all the root gaining mechanisms maintainers to sit together and
work out a common mechanism to register menu items that need root.

Some x-gain-root package that all mechanism and all root needing
programs then Depend on. The root gaining mechanism the user has
installed can then add the menu items no matter what mechanism was
picked.

Maybe you could merge the potential x-gain-root package into the menu
package.


or

create an alternative x-gain-root that all root gaining packages
supply and use that everywhere.


My 2c,
Goswin

Re: Executing with root priviliges

[Eduard Bloch]

Moin Goswin!
Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Samstag, den 05. Juni 2004:

> >  > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
> >  > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
> >  > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
> >  > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
> >  > the packager and the user?
> 
> Get all the root gaining mechanisms maintainers to sit together and
> work out a common mechanism to register menu items that need root.
> 
> Some x-gain-root package that all mechanism and all root needing

There is already the script su-to-root in the current menu package which
does almost what you want - looking around and choosing a su-like
program.

Regards,
Eduard.
-- 
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verstünden sie auch.
-- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Re: Executing with root priviliges

[Goswin von Brederlow]

Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Moin Goswin!
> Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Samstag, den 05. Juni 2004:
>
>> >  > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
>> >  > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
>> >  > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
>> >  > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
>> >  > the packager and the user?
>> 
>> Get all the root gaining mechanisms maintainers to sit together and
>> work out a common mechanism to register menu items that need root.
>> 
>> Some x-gain-root package that all mechanism and all root needing
>
> There is already the script su-to-root in the current menu package which
> does almost what you want - looking around and choosing a su-like
> program.
>
> Regards,
> Eduard.

Do you know if all the mentioned su-like programs mentioned are
supported?

MfG
Goswin

Re: Executing with root priviliges

[David A. Riggs]

Goswin von Brederlow wrote:

Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


Moin Goswin!
Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Samstag, den 05. Juni 2004:


> So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
> package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
> priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
> into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
> the packager and the user?


Get all the root gaining mechanisms maintainers to sit together and
work out a common mechanism to register menu items that need root.

Some x-gain-root package that all mechanism and all root needing


There is already the script su-to-root in the current menu package which
does almost what you want - looking around and choosing a su-like
program.



Do you know if all the mentioned su-like programs mentioned are
supported?


Wow, I didn't even realize that 'menu' provided this script. A quick
glance reveals that 'su-to-root' tries the following in this order:

1. gksu
2. kdesu
3. an xterm prompting with su

I propose that 'su-to-root' look at a configuration file for a preferred
method, first in /etc and then in ~/ so users may specify their
preference. If people think this is a good idea, I'll place a wishlist
bug for 'menu' and a patch.

- David A. Riggs 

Re: Executing with root priviliges

[Nick Leverton]

On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 08:24:47PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Samstag, den 05. Juni 2004:
> 
> > >  > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
> > >  > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
> > >  > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
> > >  > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
> > >  > the packager and the user?
> 
> There is already the script su-to-root in the current menu package which
> does almost what you want - looking around and choosing a su-like
> program.

Can you depend on any of the alternatives, with suitable detection ?
That would be good for users in differing environments :)

Nick

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- Loss of 20-35% abdominal Fat.
- Reduction of 40-70% overall Fat under skin.
- Increase metabolic rate by 76.9% without Exercise.
- Boost your Confidence level and Self Esteem.
- Burns calorized fat.
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Re: Executing with root priviliges

[David A. Riggs]

Eike "zyro" Sauer wrote:
Goswin von Brederlow schrieb:
There is also "ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -X foobar".

...and kdesu...

Right, thanks, but that's really not my point though...Does
anyone have any feed back on my real question (quoted below),
or should I ask on debian.devel?
The real question:
> So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
> package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
> priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
> into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
> the packager and the user?

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Re: Executing with root priviliges

[Eike \"zyro\" Sauer]

David A. Riggs schrieb:
> The real question:
> 
>  > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
>  > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
>  > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
>  > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
>  > the packager and the user?

Sounds reasonable enough to me to be put in d.devel.general.

Ciao,
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RFS: cdw - console and GUI based cd writer

[GCS]

Dear Mentors,

 I am looking for a sponsor of the cdw packages I have recreated as the
previous maintainer was unresponsive it was removed from Debian[1].
But first, facts about the package:
* Package name: cdw
  Version : 0.2.3
  Upstream Author : Balazs Varkonyi (vbali) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://cdw.sf.net/
* License : GPL v2
  Description : Tool for burning CD's

Ncurses-based frontend for cdrecord and mkisofs. It can handle audio and
data CD burning, through a CD image or directly from the files.

I am not new to packaging, but this is my first multi binary package
even if it's lintian clean, and I have passed all steps depending on me
for becoming a Debian Developer[2]. So I would like to ask around if I
do everything correctly, and later someone to upload it for me. The
package is available from m.d.n[3], my repository[4] and from my web
page[5].

Basically the package builds as follows:
- create a build-tree/ with cdw/ and gcdw/ subdirs under debian/
- configure both binary packages into them, and make the packages there
- make install the cdw package into debian/tmp/ , and copy the gcdw
  binary from it's compilation (gcdw contains GTK+ based GUI support)
- use dh_install to separate the files to multiple binary packages, and
  do all the stuff to create the deb's
Does this sound reasonable?

I think I have two mistakes:
- cdw-common should not depend either on cdw or gcdw
- cdw and gcdw may conflict with each other, as gcdw also contains
  console support (and needs the -g flag to actually start in GUI mode,
  so I may hack it to start in GUI mode if called as gcdw)

Question (but I will re-read the relevant policy section): why the
package menus do not show up under Gnome2.6? IMO the section may be
wrong.

Thanks for the help in advance,
Laszlo/GCS
[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=228452
[2] http://nm.debian.org/nmstatus.php?email=gcs%40lsc.hu
[3]
deb http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://mentors.debian.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free
[4]
deb http://www.lsc.hu/ packages/
deb-src http://www.lsc.hu/ packages/
[5] http://www.lsc.hu/packages/list.php


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Re: Executing with root priviliges

[Goswin von Brederlow]

"David A. Riggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Eike "zyro" Sauer wrote:
>> Goswin von Brederlow schrieb:
>>
>>>There is also "ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -X foobar".
>> ...and kdesu...
>
>
> Right, thanks, but that's really not my point though...Does
> anyone have any feed back on my real question (quoted below),
> or should I ask on debian.devel?
>
> The real question:
>
>  > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
>  > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
>  > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
>  > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
>  > the packager and the user?

Get all the root gaining mechanisms maintainers to sit together and
work out a common mechanism to register menu items that need root.

Some x-gain-root package that all mechanism and all root needing
programs then Depend on. The root gaining mechanism the user has
installed can then add the menu items no matter what mechanism was
picked.

Maybe you could merge the potential x-gain-root package into the menu
package.


or

create an alternative x-gain-root that all root gaining packages
supply and use that everywhere.


My 2c,
Goswin


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Re: Executing with root priviliges

[Eduard Bloch]

Moin Goswin!
Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Samstag, den 05. Juni 2004:

> >  > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
> >  > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
> >  > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
> >  > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
> >  > the packager and the user?
> 
> Get all the root gaining mechanisms maintainers to sit together and
> work out a common mechanism to register menu items that need root.
> 
> Some x-gain-root package that all mechanism and all root needing

There is already the script su-to-root in the current menu package which
does almost what you want - looking around and choosing a su-like
program.

Regards,
Eduard.
-- 
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verstünden sie auch.
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Re: Executing with root priviliges

[Goswin von Brederlow]

Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Moin Goswin!
> Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Samstag, den 05. Juni 2004:
>
>> >  > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
>> >  > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
>> >  > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
>> >  > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
>> >  > the packager and the user?
>> 
>> Get all the root gaining mechanisms maintainers to sit together and
>> work out a common mechanism to register menu items that need root.
>> 
>> Some x-gain-root package that all mechanism and all root needing
>
> There is already the script su-to-root in the current menu package which
> does almost what you want - looking around and choosing a su-like
> program.
>
> Regards,
> Eduard.

Do you know if all the mentioned su-like programs mentioned are
supported?

MfG
Goswin


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Re: Executing with root priviliges

[David A. Riggs]

Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Moin Goswin!
Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Samstag, den 05. Juni 2004:
> So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
> package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
> priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
> into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
> the packager and the user?
Get all the root gaining mechanisms maintainers to sit together and
work out a common mechanism to register menu items that need root.
Some x-gain-root package that all mechanism and all root needing
There is already the script su-to-root in the current menu package which
does almost what you want - looking around and choosing a su-like
program.
Do you know if all the mentioned su-like programs mentioned are
supported?
Wow, I didn't even realize that 'menu' provided this script. A quick
glance reveals that 'su-to-root' tries the following in this order:
1. gksu
2. kdesu
3. an xterm prompting with su
I propose that 'su-to-root' look at a configuration file for a preferred
method, first in /etc and then in ~/ so users may specify their
preference. If people think this is a good idea, I'll place a wishlist
bug for 'menu' and a patch.
- David A. Riggs 
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Re: Executing with root priviliges

[Nick Leverton]

On Sat, Jun 05, 2004 at 08:24:47PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Goswin von Brederlow schrieb am Samstag, den 05. Juni 2004:
> 
> > >  > So, my question is...is there, or should there be, some virtual
> > >  > package or system-wide or user-wide preference for gaining root
> > >  > priviliges under X11? What's the best current way to get this
> > >  > into the menu system with the least amount of pain for both
> > >  > the packager and the user?
> 
> There is already the script su-to-root in the current menu package which
> does almost what you want - looking around and choosing a su-like
> program.

Can you depend on any of the alternatives, with suitable detection ?
That would be good for users in differing environments :)

Nick


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