Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 01:50:50AM -0800, Halim Boukaram wrote:>> I dont want to work with Octave since it is interpreter based and the> whole point behind numerical analysis is super speed.>Old fashion programmer uh? :)Anyway, any C library can be potentially embedded in a scriptinglanguage like octave (as it's true for perl or python). So the integration with octave or scilab or anything else can be attained later.-- Francesco P. LovergineYes ofcourse you are right on both acounts. I am an old fashoined programmer and yes it can be embeded into octave actaully chances are thats how itll end up but i still say interpreters must be avoided for numerical analysis. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
>If you want it to be widely usable, then I would also suggest packaging >your software in .rpm format. I know a lot of people who work as >sys-admins on Linux systems, and they feel much better when software is in >.rpm, because that's what they know. yes but i'll have to research how to make a good rpm. but i dont get it. i dont like rpms or even makefiles. i stick with good old scripting for compilation stuff. >Yes, and put on your page a very detailed description of what your >software does, what platforms it runs on, and so on. It would also be a >good idea to detail what tests you've run that indicate your software is >better than what exists. since it is C then no doubt it is faster than octave but ofcourse i'll have a detailed description.>I advise you to find a different name for your software. There are a >couple of things out there that have the name "matlib", and it will create >confusion with "matlab", a commercial product. Pick something that will >stand out, like cheetamath. actually this is my second math library. the first was in C++. but instead of just X for ploting curves it used sdl and opengl. i scrapped it for the C library. the C++ library was called mathsim. >Where _are_ you from, just out of curiosity? i'm from Lebanon. The place I study is called NDU. (Its run by money loving preists). just yesterday they were hanging up posters of .net (UNLEASH THE POWER of .Net) oh GOD i almost fainted.>Good luck in what you're doing. Realize that what you're striving for (a >math library that does everything, completely optimized) is the Holy Grail >of scientific computing. Speaking as one who works in that area, when you >do have a product ready to demo, there will be lots of people interested >in what you have. and thats exactly why im doing it. >Good luck! Sincerely,>Craig Steffen power to the penguin Halim BouKaram Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
>If you want it to be widely usable, then I would also suggest packaging >your software in .rpm format. I know a lot of people who work as >sys-admins on Linux systems, and they feel much better when software is in >.rpm, because that's what they know. yes but i'll have to research how to make a good rpm. but i dont get it. i dont like rpms or even makefiles. i stick with good old scripting for compilation stuff. >Yes, and put on your page a very detailed description of what your >software does, what platforms it runs on, and so on. It would also be a >good idea to detail what tests you've run that indicate your software is >better than what exists. since it is C then no doubt it is faster than octave but ofcourse i'll have a detailed description.>I advise you to find a different name for your software. There are a >couple of things out there that have the name "matlib", and it will create >confusion with "matlab", a commercial product. Pick something that will >stand out, like cheetamath. actually this is my second math library. the first was in C++. but instead of just X for ploting curves it used sdl and opengl. i scrapped it for the C library. the C++ library was called mathsim. >Where _are_ you from, just out of curiosity? i'm from Lebanon. The place I study is called NDU. (Its run by money loving preists). just yesterday they were hanging up posters of .net (UNLEASH THE POWER of .Net) oh GOD i almost fainted.>Good luck in what you're doing. Realize that what you're striving for (a >math library that does everything, completely optimized) is the Holy Grail >of scientific computing. Speaking as one who works in that area, when you >do have a product ready to demo, there will be lots of people interested >in what you have. and thats exactly why im doing it. >Good luck! Sincerely,>Craig Steffen power to the penguin Halim BouKaram Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online
RFS: iroffer - IRC file distribution bot
The iroffer package has been orphaned and I would like to take over it, so I'm looking for a sponsor. Iroffer is an IRC fileserver (GPL licence). Users can retrieve files that the bot holds using the DCC protocol. --- Long description iroffer is a fileserver for IRC (commonly referred to as a DCC bot). It uses the DCC feature of IRC to send files to other users. iroffer will connect to an IRC server and let people request files from it. Unlike similar programs, iroffer is not a script; it is a standalone executable written entirely in C, from scratch, with high transfer speed and effeciency in mind. iroffer has been known to reach 2MByte/sec or higher bandwidth usage when multiple transfers are occuring at the same time. --- Here is the changelog for what I made: * New maintainer * New upstream release (Closes: #217890) * Manpage update * Upgrade to standards 3.6.1 - Converted changelog and control to UTF-8 * Light rules modifications (handle DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS) The updated package can be found at http://debian.zorglub.org/packages/iroffer The package is both linda and lintian clean. Thanks for your help, -- Zorglub Clément Stenac
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
> > I dont want to work with Octave since it is interpreter based and the > > whole point behind numerical analysis is super speed. > > > > Old fashion programmer uh? :) Anyway, any C library can be potentially > embedded in a scripting language like octave (as it's true for perl or > python). So the integration with octave or scilab or anything else can > be attained later. are you nuts, or just crazy? odds are that the stuff in octave and friends (atlas, lapack, etc) is a LOT better tested than what you're writing from scratch... most of those have been tested for YEARS, not just weeks or months. i hate to put it this way, but it sounds like you're spewing blue-sky notions. and this is probably getting a little off-topic for d-mentors. elijah
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
#include * Zenaan Harkness [Sat, Feb 07 2004, 04:20:47AM]: > > sys-admins on Linux systems, and they feel much better when software is in > > .rpm, because that's what they know. > > Don't RPM distros now have apt/ alien to install? (ie. so they can > install .deb archives) ??? APT does not install anything. It manages to retrieve the correct packages and then lets the actual package manager do the work. It is dpkg for Debian systems and rpm for RPM-based ones. MfG, Eduard. -- gute idee mom timbob: ich bin nicht deine mutter.. ;-7 sicher? ganz sicher.. d.h.. vielleicht war ich jung und brauchte das geld.. aber andererseits.. timbob, wie alt bist die denn? 18 mhh.. nee mit 7 war ich sexuell noch nicht s aktiv.. ein wenig ringelpiez mit anfassen im kindergarten..
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 22:48, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Zenaan Harkness [Sat, Feb 07 2004, 04:20:47AM]: > > > > sys-admins on Linux systems, and they feel much better when software is > > > in > > > .rpm, because that's what they know. > > > > Don't RPM distros now have apt/ alien to install? (ie. so they can > > install .deb archives) ??? > > APT does not install anything. It manages to retrieve the correct > packages and then lets the actual package manager do the work. It is > dpkg for Debian systems and rpm for RPM-based ones. My ultimate question is (since it's obviously not obvious) - can a .deb Debian package be installed on a .rpm based distribution?
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 07:36:11AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness imagined: > On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 22:48, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > #include > > > Zenaan Harkness [Sat, Feb 07 2004, 04:20:47AM]: > > > > > > > sys-admins on Linux systems, and they feel much better > > > > when software is in .rpm, because that's what they know. > > > > > > Don't RPM distros now have apt/ alien to install? (ie. so > > > they can install .deb archives) ??? > > > > APT does not install anything. It manages to retrieve the > > correct packages and then lets the actual package manager do > > the work. It is dpkg for Debian systems and rpm for > > RPM-based ones. > > My ultimate question is (since it's obviously not obvious) - > can a .deb Debian package be installed on a .rpm based > distribution? AFAIK, 'alien' will do this (with varying success). Have Fun with GNU/Linux, Raymond -- "What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is brought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?" (Gandhi) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Packaging .deb vs .rpm - Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 07:49, R. Wood wrote: > On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 07:36:11AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness imagined: > > On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 22:48, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > #include > > > > Zenaan Harkness [Sat, Feb 07 2004, 04:20:47AM]: > > > > > > > > > sys-admins on Linux systems, and they feel much better > > > > > when software is in .rpm, because that's what they know. > > > > > > > > Don't RPM distros now have apt/ alien to install? (ie. so > > > > they can install .deb archives) ??? > > > > > > APT does not install anything. It manages to retrieve the > > > correct packages and then lets the actual package manager do > > > the work. It is dpkg for Debian systems and rpm for > > > RPM-based ones. > > > > My ultimate question is (since it's obviously not obvious) - > > can a .deb Debian package be installed on a .rpm based > > distribution? If so, then our friend Halim can just focus on one distribution - namely in our case Debian, and on his web page, refer to alien for those on rpm based distros who want to install his package. My understanding is that .deb format has more information than .rpm, and is therefore preferable. Anyway, I know I wouldn't want to spend time learning _two_ packaging systems - .deb (and .tar of course) are surely enough? cheers zen
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 01:50:50AM -0800, Halim Boukaram wrote:>> I dont want to work with Octave since it is interpreter based and the> whole point behind numerical analysis is super speed.>Old fashion programmer uh? :)Anyway, any C library can be potentially embedded in a scriptinglanguage like octave (as it's true for perl or python). So the integration with octave or scilab or anything else can be attained later.-- Francesco P. LovergineYes ofcourse you are right on both acounts. I am an old fashoined programmer and yes it can be embeded into octave actaully chances are thats how itll end up but i still say interpreters must be avoided for numerical analysis. Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
>If you want it to be widely usable, then I would also suggest packaging >your software in .rpm format. I know a lot of people who work as >sys-admins on Linux systems, and they feel much better when software is in >.rpm, because that's what they know. yes but i'll have to research how to make a good rpm. but i dont get it. i dont like rpms or even makefiles. i stick with good old scripting for compilation stuff. >Yes, and put on your page a very detailed description of what your >software does, what platforms it runs on, and so on. It would also be a >good idea to detail what tests you've run that indicate your software is >better than what exists. since it is C then no doubt it is faster than octave but ofcourse i'll have a detailed description.>I advise you to find a different name for your software. There are a >couple of things out there that have the name "matlib", and it will create >confusion with "matlab", a commercial product. Pick something that will >stand out, like cheetamath. actually this is my second math library. the first was in C++. but instead of just X for ploting curves it used sdl and opengl. i scrapped it for the C library. the C++ library was called mathsim. >Where _are_ you from, just out of curiosity? i'm from Lebanon. The place I study is called NDU. (Its run by money loving preists). just yesterday they were hanging up posters of .net (UNLEASH THE POWER of .Net) oh GOD i almost fainted.>Good luck in what you're doing. Realize that what you're striving for (a >math library that does everything, completely optimized) is the Holy Grail >of scientific computing. Speaking as one who works in that area, when you >do have a product ready to demo, there will be lots of people interested >in what you have. and thats exactly why im doing it. >Good luck! Sincerely,>Craig Steffen power to the penguin Halim BouKaram Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
>If you want it to be widely usable, then I would also suggest packaging >your software in .rpm format. I know a lot of people who work as >sys-admins on Linux systems, and they feel much better when software is in >.rpm, because that's what they know. yes but i'll have to research how to make a good rpm. but i dont get it. i dont like rpms or even makefiles. i stick with good old scripting for compilation stuff. >Yes, and put on your page a very detailed description of what your >software does, what platforms it runs on, and so on. It would also be a >good idea to detail what tests you've run that indicate your software is >better than what exists. since it is C then no doubt it is faster than octave but ofcourse i'll have a detailed description.>I advise you to find a different name for your software. There are a >couple of things out there that have the name "matlib", and it will create >confusion with "matlab", a commercial product. Pick something that will >stand out, like cheetamath. actually this is my second math library. the first was in C++. but instead of just X for ploting curves it used sdl and opengl. i scrapped it for the C library. the C++ library was called mathsim. >Where _are_ you from, just out of curiosity? i'm from Lebanon. The place I study is called NDU. (Its run by money loving preists). just yesterday they were hanging up posters of .net (UNLEASH THE POWER of .Net) oh GOD i almost fainted.>Good luck in what you're doing. Realize that what you're striving for (a >math library that does everything, completely optimized) is the Holy Grail >of scientific computing. Speaking as one who works in that area, when you >do have a product ready to demo, there will be lots of people interested >in what you have. and thats exactly why im doing it. >Good luck! Sincerely,>Craig Steffen power to the penguin Halim BouKaram Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online
RFS: iroffer - IRC file distribution bot
The iroffer package has been orphaned and I would like to take over it, so I'm looking for a sponsor. Iroffer is an IRC fileserver (GPL licence). Users can retrieve files that the bot holds using the DCC protocol. --- Long description iroffer is a fileserver for IRC (commonly referred to as a DCC bot). It uses the DCC feature of IRC to send files to other users. iroffer will connect to an IRC server and let people request files from it. Unlike similar programs, iroffer is not a script; it is a standalone executable written entirely in C, from scratch, with high transfer speed and effeciency in mind. iroffer has been known to reach 2MByte/sec or higher bandwidth usage when multiple transfers are occuring at the same time. --- Here is the changelog for what I made: * New maintainer * New upstream release (Closes: #217890) * Manpage update * Upgrade to standards 3.6.1 - Converted changelog and control to UTF-8 * Light rules modifications (handle DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS) The updated package can be found at http://debian.zorglub.org/packages/iroffer The package is both linda and lintian clean. Thanks for your help, -- Zorglub Clément Stenac -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
> > I dont want to work with Octave since it is interpreter based and the > > whole point behind numerical analysis is super speed. > > > > Old fashion programmer uh? :) Anyway, any C library can be potentially > embedded in a scripting language like octave (as it's true for perl or > python). So the integration with octave or scilab or anything else can > be attained later. are you nuts, or just crazy? odds are that the stuff in octave and friends (atlas, lapack, etc) is a LOT better tested than what you're writing from scratch... most of those have been tested for YEARS, not just weeks or months. i hate to put it this way, but it sounds like you're spewing blue-sky notions. and this is probably getting a little off-topic for d-mentors. elijah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
#include * Zenaan Harkness [Sat, Feb 07 2004, 04:20:47AM]: > > sys-admins on Linux systems, and they feel much better when software is in > > .rpm, because that's what they know. > > Don't RPM distros now have apt/ alien to install? (ie. so they can > install .deb archives) ??? APT does not install anything. It manages to retrieve the correct packages and then lets the actual package manager do the work. It is dpkg for Debian systems and rpm for RPM-based ones. MfG, Eduard. -- gute idee mom timbob: ich bin nicht deine mutter.. ;-7 sicher? ganz sicher.. d.h.. vielleicht war ich jung und brauchte das geld.. aber andererseits.. timbob, wie alt bist die denn? 18 mhh.. nee mit 7 war ich sexuell noch nicht s aktiv.. ein wenig ringelpiez mit anfassen im kindergarten.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 22:48, Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Zenaan Harkness [Sat, Feb 07 2004, 04:20:47AM]: > > > > sys-admins on Linux systems, and they feel much better when software is in > > > .rpm, because that's what they know. > > > > Don't RPM distros now have apt/ alien to install? (ie. so they can > > install .deb archives) ??? > > APT does not install anything. It manages to retrieve the correct > packages and then lets the actual package manager do the work. It is > dpkg for Debian systems and rpm for RPM-based ones. My ultimate question is (since it's obviously not obvious) - can a .deb Debian package be installed on a .rpm based distribution? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 07:36:11AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness imagined: > On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 22:48, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > #include > > > Zenaan Harkness [Sat, Feb 07 2004, 04:20:47AM]: > > > > > > > sys-admins on Linux systems, and they feel much better > > > > when software is in .rpm, because that's what they know. > > > > > > Don't RPM distros now have apt/ alien to install? (ie. so > > > they can install .deb archives) ??? > > > > APT does not install anything. It manages to retrieve the > > correct packages and then lets the actual package manager do > > the work. It is dpkg for Debian systems and rpm for > > RPM-based ones. > > My ultimate question is (since it's obviously not obvious) - > can a .deb Debian package be installed on a .rpm based > distribution? AFAIK, 'alien' will do this (with varying success). Have Fun with GNU/Linux, Raymond -- "What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is brought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy?" (Gandhi) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Packaging .deb vs .rpm - Re: C library for numerical analysis and math
On Sun, 2004-02-08 at 07:49, R. Wood wrote: > On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 07:36:11AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness imagined: > > On Sat, 2004-02-07 at 22:48, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > #include > > > > Zenaan Harkness [Sat, Feb 07 2004, 04:20:47AM]: > > > > > > > > > sys-admins on Linux systems, and they feel much better > > > > > when software is in .rpm, because that's what they know. > > > > > > > > Don't RPM distros now have apt/ alien to install? (ie. so > > > > they can install .deb archives) ??? > > > > > > APT does not install anything. It manages to retrieve the > > > correct packages and then lets the actual package manager do > > > the work. It is dpkg for Debian systems and rpm for > > > RPM-based ones. > > > > My ultimate question is (since it's obviously not obvious) - > > can a .deb Debian package be installed on a .rpm based > > distribution? If so, then our friend Halim can just focus on one distribution - namely in our case Debian, and on his web page, refer to alien for those on rpm based distros who want to install his package. My understanding is that .deb format has more information than .rpm, and is therefore preferable. Anyway, I know I wouldn't want to spend time learning _two_ packaging systems - .deb (and .tar of course) are surely enough? cheers zen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
