Re: Failure to build Jessie with MATE

2014-10-04 Thread Ben Armstrong
On 04/10/14 12:26 AM, Michael . wrote:
> There should be 8 files in the previous message.
> Please let me know if they are there, if they aren't I'll link to them
> in my dropbox.

There is no previous message. As I said, include them inline and you
won't have this problem.

Ben


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Re: Failure to build Jessie with MATE

2014-10-04 Thread Michael .
I think I have just figured it out, only because of having to copy and
paste configs over.
My package lists are derived from my 3.x configs and at the top of the file
is a line that
starts with "# /usr/share/live/build/package-lists/". This must have been
from when 3.x
in development (when I first started using Live Build) and I have not
removed it.

It seems Live Build 4.x doesn't recognise # as a comment, even though Live
Build 3.x did,
so it reads the file as is and expects a file path to actually lead to a
file even though the line
 is commented out.

In the morning I will remove that line, start a totally new build and see
what happens.

You may wonder why I haven't sent this with the configs etc inline as you
suggested. This
email was huge with all the configs and the build log. Well in excess of
5000 lines, I have
been able to attach files before but have never had to attach anything so
big. It may help
if the list software allowed larger attachments.

On 4 October 2014 20:41, Ben Armstrong  wrote:

> On 04/10/14 12:26 AM, Michael . wrote:
> > There should be 8 files in the previous message.
> > Please let me know if they are there, if they aren't I'll link to them
> > in my dropbox.
>
> There is no previous message. As I said, include them inline and you
> won't have this problem.
>
> Ben
>
>


Re: Failure to build Jessie with MATE

2014-10-04 Thread Michael .
That was the problem. I built an iso and am now about to test it to see if
it will install.
Why does Live Build no longer see comments at the beginning of a file?

On 4 October 2014 21:35, Michael .  wrote:

> I think I have just figured it out, only because of having to copy and
> paste configs over.
> My package lists are derived from my 3.x configs and at the top of the
> file is a line that
> starts with "# /usr/share/live/build/package-lists/". This must have been
> from when 3.x
> in development (when I first started using Live Build) and I have not
> removed it.
>
> It seems Live Build 4.x doesn't recognise # as a comment, even though Live
> Build 3.x did,
> so it reads the file as is and expects a file path to actually lead to a
> file even though the line
>  is commented out.
>
> In the morning I will remove that line, start a totally new build and see
> what happens.
>
> You may wonder why I haven't sent this with the configs etc inline as you
> suggested. This
> email was huge with all the configs and the build log. Well in excess of
> 5000 lines, I have
> been able to attach files before but have never had to attach anything so
> big. It may help
> if the list software allowed larger attachments.
>
> On 4 October 2014 20:41, Ben Armstrong 
> wrote:
>
>> On 04/10/14 12:26 AM, Michael . wrote:
>> > There should be 8 files in the previous message.
>> > Please let me know if they are there, if they aren't I'll link to them
>> > in my dropbox.
>>
>> There is no previous message. As I said, include them inline and you
>> won't have this problem.
>>
>> Ben
>>
>>
>


Preseed\Livecd issue

2014-10-04 Thread Zed
I¹ve run into a few small snags that has me perplexed currently, and I hope
someone can lend a hand.

My live-build completes, and the ISO boots. Once the Live session has
started, this is where I see two strange behaviors.

1.  The desktop icon for the debian-installer-launcher that I have used for
many past build no longer appears on the livecd desktop.
2.  When I DO launch the debian-live-installer from the livecd (as the icon
is in the System menu), it launches but does not read ANYTHING from my
pressed, but if I boot to the installer or graphical installer, the pressed
works exactly as expected.

Details:
debian-installer-shorcut.desktop file is located:
config/includes.chroot/usr/share/applications/debian-installer-launcher.desk
top

debian-installer-launcher.desktop contents:

[Desktop Entry]

Version=1.0

Name=Install Lilypad Linux

Comment=Install this system permanently to your hard disk

Exec=su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher

Icon=debian-installer-launcher

Type=Application

Categories=Application;System;

StartupNotify=true

Terminal=false



Preseed.cfg location:  config/includes.installer/preseed.cfg



Other location tried:

config/debian-installer/preseed.cfg

config/includes.debian-installer/preseed.cfg

config/includes.binary/preseed.cfg (then adding file=/preseed.cfg to boot
menu config)

When I boot to the livecd and search for the pressed, it is on the livecd,
but the desktop link ignores it completely.

config/includes.binary/install/preseed.cfg (then adding
file=/install/preseed.cfg to boot menu config)

When I boot to the livecd and search for the pressed, it is on the livecd,
but the desktop link ignores it completely.





I do hope someone has some ideas on what I can try next. I have even removed
all packages with the exception of desktop-base, and a dm\wm (tried various
combinations with no luck). Even with just the basics, I can not get the
pressed to be read when booted into the live session, and the desktop icon
has just stopped working.



Thanks all, and let me know if you need additional details.



Thanks.



Cheers!

Zed (Devin)




Re: Failure to build Jessie with MATE

2014-10-04 Thread Zed
Maybe copying and pasting has included some characters that are causing
issues (that are not exactly visible). I have comments all over the place
and they have not caused any issues (begging. Middle, and end of configs)
and I am running 4.0.1-1 and 4.0.2 without issues. I¹d try to recreate the
config files maybe.

Also, if your configs are so long, you could always put your project on
GitHub so we can see the configs and then you don¹t have to worry about
length of messages. Just a thought.

Z

From:  "Michael ." 
Date:  Sun, 5 Oct 2014 08:58:01 +1100
To:  "debian-live@lists.debian.org" 
Subject:  Re: Failure to build Jessie with MATE
Resent-From:  
Resent-Date:  Sat,  4 Oct 2014 21:58:17 + (UTC)

That was the problem. I built an iso and am now about to test it to see if
it will install.
Why does Live Build no longer see comments at the beginning of a file?

On 4 October 2014 21:35, Michael .  wrote:
> I think I have just figured it out, only because of having to copy and paste
> configs over.
> My package lists are derived from my 3.x configs and at the top of the file is
> a line that 
> starts with "# /usr/share/live/build/package-lists/". This must have been from
> when 3.x 
> in development (when I first started using Live Build) and I have not removed
> it.
> 
> It seems Live Build 4.x doesn't recognise # as a comment, even though Live
> Build 3.x did, 
> so it reads the file as is and expects a file path to actually lead to a file
> even though the line
>  is commented out.
> 
> In the morning I will remove that line, start a totally new build and see what
> happens.
> 
> You may wonder why I haven't sent this with the configs etc inline as you
> suggested. This
> email was huge with all the configs and the build log. Well in excess of 5000
> lines, I have 
> been able to attach files before but have never had to attach anything so big.
> It may help
> if the list software allowed larger attachments.
> 
> On 4 October 2014 20:41, Ben Armstrong  wrote:
>> On 04/10/14 12:26 AM, Michael . wrote:
>>> > There should be 8 files in the previous message.
>>> > Please let me know if they are there, if they aren't I'll link to them
>>> > in my dropbox.
>> 
>> There is no previous message. As I said, include them inline and you
>> won't have this problem.
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
> 





Re: Failure to build Jessie with MATE

2014-10-04 Thread Michael .
I suppose it is possible Zed. The configs aren't big the build log is
though and that is
where you see the error report.

Anyway I have fixed it now and installed a minimal Jessie MATE onto my
little emachine netbook.

Your suggestion about Github is excellent. My project is already on Github
so I will use that next time.
Cheers.

On 5 October 2014 10:26, Zed  wrote:

> Maybe copying and pasting has included some characters that are causing
> issues (that are not exactly visible). I have comments all over the place
> and they have not caused any issues (begging. Middle, and end of configs)
> and I am running 4.0.1-1 and 4.0.2 without issues. I’d try to recreate the
> config files maybe.
>
> Also, if your configs are so long, you could always put your project on
> GitHub so we can see the configs and then you don’t have to worry about
> length of messages. Just a thought.
>
> Z
>
> From: "Michael ." 
> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 08:58:01 +1100
> To: "debian-live@lists.debian.org" 
> Subject: Re: Failure to build Jessie with MATE
> Resent-From: 
> Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2014 21:58:17 + (UTC)
>
> That was the problem. I built an iso and am now about to test it to see if
> it will install.
> Why does Live Build no longer see comments at the beginning of a file?
>
> On 4 October 2014 21:35, Michael .  wrote:
>
>> I think I have just figured it out, only because of having to copy and
>> paste configs over.
>> My package lists are derived from my 3.x configs and at the top of the
>> file is a line that
>> starts with "# /usr/share/live/build/package-lists/". This must have been
>> from when 3.x
>> in development (when I first started using Live Build) and I have not
>> removed it.
>>
>> It seems Live Build 4.x doesn't recognise # as a comment, even though
>> Live Build 3.x did,
>> so it reads the file as is and expects a file path to actually lead to a
>> file even though the line
>>  is commented out.
>>
>> In the morning I will remove that line, start a totally new build and see
>> what happens.
>>
>> You may wonder why I haven't sent this with the configs etc inline as you
>> suggested. This
>> email was huge with all the configs and the build log. Well in excess of
>> 5000 lines, I have
>> been able to attach files before but have never had to attach anything so
>> big. It may help
>> if the list software allowed larger attachments.
>>
>> On 4 October 2014 20:41, Ben Armstrong 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 04/10/14 12:26 AM, Michael . wrote:
>>> > There should be 8 files in the previous message.
>>> > Please let me know if they are there, if they aren't I'll link to them
>>> > in my dropbox.
>>>
>>> There is no previous message. As I said, include them inline and you
>>> won't have this problem.
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>
>


Re: Preseed\Livecd issue

2014-10-04 Thread Michael .
Thanks so much for asking this.

Now I have Live Build working in Jessie I am about to start on preseeding
so I am interested
in any helpful replies you get. I want to preseed language/country and
keyboard (nothing much) when the
image is installed to the computer so the user doesn't have to wade through
a list of English speaking countries
(di defaults to the USA for English and Australia is at the other end of
the list). Sorting out the preseed contents is done
I just need to know where to put it for it to work

On 5 October 2014 10:23, Zed  wrote:

> I’ve run into a few small snags that has me perplexed currently, and I
> hope someone can lend a hand.
>
> My live-build completes, and the ISO boots. Once the Live session has
> started, this is where I see two strange behaviors.
>
> 1.  The desktop icon for the debian-installer-launcher that I have used
> for many past build no longer appears on the livecd desktop.
> 2.  When I DO launch the debian-live-installer from the livecd (as the
> icon is in the System menu), it launches but does not read ANYTHING from my
> pressed, but if I boot to the installer or graphical installer, the pressed
> works exactly as expected.
>
> Details:
> debian-installer-shorcut.desktop file is located:
> config/includes.chroot/usr/share/applications/
> debian-installer-launcher.desktop
>
> debian-installer-launcher.desktop contents:
>
> [Desktop Entry]
>
> Version=1.0
>
> Name=Install Lilypad Linux
>
> Comment=Install this system permanently to your hard disk
>
> Exec=su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher
>
> Icon=debian-installer-launcher
>
> Type=Application
>
> Categories=Application;System;
>
> StartupNotify=true
>
> Terminal=false
>
>
> Preseed.cfg location:  config/includes.installer/preseed.cfg
>
>
> Other location tried:
>
> config/debian-installer/preseed.cfg
>
> config/includes.debian-installer/preseed.cfg
>
> config/includes.binary/preseed.cfg (then adding file=/preseed.cfg to boot
> menu config)
>
> When I boot to the livecd and search for the pressed, it is on the livecd,
> but the desktop link ignores it completely.
>
> config/includes.binary/install/preseed.cfg (then adding
> file=/install/preseed.cfg to boot menu config)
>
> When I boot to the livecd and search for the pressed, it is on the livecd,
> but the desktop link ignores it completely.
>
>
>
> I do hope someone has some ideas on what I can try next. I have even
> removed all packages with the exception of desktop-base, and a dm\wm (tried
> various combinations with no luck). Even with just the basics, I can not
> get the pressed to be read when booted into the live session, and the
> desktop icon has just stopped working.
>
>
> Thanks all, and let me know if you need additional details.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Zed (Devin)
>


Re: Preseed\Livecd issue

2014-10-04 Thread Zed
Well, I have my preseed in the config/includes.installer directory. It is
picked up and read perfectly when I boot the iso into Install or Graphic
install ­ just not when I boot into live.

Also, if you want the debian-installer available from your livecd, you need
to install the debian-instller-launcher. Even though the launcher isn¹t
reading the pressed, the installer works well.

Z


From:  "Michael ." 
Date:  Sun, 5 Oct 2014 12:32:02 +1100
To:  Jack Handy 
Cc:  Debian-live mailing list 
Subject:  Re: Preseed\Livecd issue

Thanks so much for asking this.

Now I have Live Build working in Jessie I am about to start on preseeding so
I am interested
in any helpful replies you get. I want to preseed language/country and
keyboard (nothing much) when the
image is installed to the computer so the user doesn't have to wade through
a list of English speaking countries
(di defaults to the USA for English and Australia is at the other end of the
list). Sorting out the preseed contents is done
I just need to know where to put it for it to work

On 5 October 2014 10:23, Zed  wrote:
> I¹ve run into a few small snags that has me perplexed currently, and I hope
> someone can lend a hand.
> 
> My live-build completes, and the ISO boots. Once the Live session has started,
> this is where I see two strange behaviors.
> 
> 1.  The desktop icon for the debian-installer-launcher that I have used for
> many past build no longer appears on the livecd desktop.
> 2.  When I DO launch the debian-live-installer from the livecd (as the icon is
> in the System menu), it launches but does not read ANYTHING from my pressed,
> but if I boot to the installer or graphical installer, the pressed works
> exactly as expected.
> 
> Details:
> debian-installer-shorcut.desktop file is located:
> 
config/includes.chroot/usr/share/applications/debian-installer-launcher.deskto>
p
> 
> debian-installer-launcher.desktop contents:
> 
> [Desktop Entry]
> 
> Version=1.0
> 
> Name=Install Lilypad Linux
> 
> Comment=Install this system permanently to your hard disk
> 
> Exec=su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher
> 
> Icon=debian-installer-launcher
> 
> Type=Application
> 
> Categories=Application;System;
> 
> StartupNotify=true
> 
> Terminal=false
> 
> 
> 
> Preseed.cfg location:  config/includes.installer/preseed.cfg
> 
> 
> 
> Other location tried:
> 
> config/debian-installer/preseed.cfg
> 
> config/includes.debian-installer/preseed.cfg
> 
> config/includes.binary/preseed.cfg (then adding file=/preseed.cfg to boot menu
> config)
> 
> When I boot to the livecd and search for the pressed, it is on the livecd, but
> the desktop link ignores it completely.
> 
> config/includes.binary/install/preseed.cfg (then adding
> file=/install/preseed.cfg to boot menu config)
> 
> When I boot to the livecd and search for the pressed, it is on the livecd, but
> the desktop link ignores it completely.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I do hope someone has some ideas on what I can try next. I have even removed
> all packages with the exception of desktop-base, and a dm\wm (tried various
> combinations with no luck). Even with just the basics, I can not get the
> pressed to be read when booted into the live session, and the desktop icon has
> just stopped working.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks all, and let me know if you need additional details.
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Zed (Devin)





Re: Preseed\Livecd issue

2014-10-04 Thread Michael .
I'll do that right now, thanks for the tips.

On 5 October 2014 13:20, Zed  wrote:

> Well, I have my preseed in the config/includes.installer directory. It is
> picked up and read perfectly when I boot the iso into Install or Graphic
> install – just not when I boot into live.
>
> Also, if you want the debian-installer available from your livecd, you
> need to install the debian-instller-launcher. Even though the launcher
> isn’t reading the pressed, the installer works well.
>
> Z
>
>
> From: "Michael ." 
> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 12:32:02 +1100
> To: Jack Handy 
> Cc: Debian-live mailing list 
> Subject: Re: Preseed\Livecd issue
>
> Thanks so much for asking this.
>
> Now I have Live Build working in Jessie I am about to start on preseeding
> so I am interested
> in any helpful replies you get. I want to preseed language/country and
> keyboard (nothing much) when the
> image is installed to the computer so the user doesn't have to wade
> through a list of English speaking countries
> (di defaults to the USA for English and Australia is at the other end of
> the list). Sorting out the preseed contents is done
> I just need to know where to put it for it to work
>
> On 5 October 2014 10:23, Zed  wrote:
>
>> I’ve run into a few small snags that has me perplexed currently, and I
>> hope someone can lend a hand.
>>
>> My live-build completes, and the ISO boots. Once the Live session has
>> started, this is where I see two strange behaviors.
>>
>> 1.  The desktop icon for the debian-installer-launcher that I have used
>> for many past build no longer appears on the livecd desktop.
>> 2.  When I DO launch the debian-live-installer from the livecd (as the
>> icon is in the System menu), it launches but does not read ANYTHING from my
>> pressed, but if I boot to the installer or graphical installer, the pressed
>> works exactly as expected.
>>
>> Details:
>> debian-installer-shorcut.desktop file is located:
>> config/includes.chroot/usr/share/applications/
>> debian-installer-launcher.desktop
>>
>> debian-installer-launcher.desktop contents:
>>
>> [Desktop Entry]
>>
>> Version=1.0
>>
>> Name=Install Lilypad Linux
>>
>> Comment=Install this system permanently to your hard disk
>>
>> Exec=su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher
>>
>> Icon=debian-installer-launcher
>>
>> Type=Application
>>
>> Categories=Application;System;
>>
>> StartupNotify=true
>>
>> Terminal=false
>>
>>
>> Preseed.cfg location:  config/includes.installer/preseed.cfg
>>
>>
>> Other location tried:
>>
>> config/debian-installer/preseed.cfg
>>
>> config/includes.debian-installer/preseed.cfg
>>
>> config/includes.binary/preseed.cfg (then adding file=/preseed.cfg to boot
>> menu config)
>>
>> When I boot to the livecd and search for the pressed, it is on the
>> livecd, but the desktop link ignores it completely.
>>
>> config/includes.binary/install/preseed.cfg (then adding
>> file=/install/preseed.cfg to boot menu config)
>>
>> When I boot to the livecd and search for the pressed, it is on the
>> livecd, but the desktop link ignores it completely.
>>
>>
>>
>> I do hope someone has some ideas on what I can try next. I have even
>> removed all packages with the exception of desktop-base, and a dm\wm (tried
>> various combinations with no luck). Even with just the basics, I can not
>> get the pressed to be read when booted into the live session, and the
>> desktop icon has just stopped working.
>>
>>
>> Thanks all, and let me know if you need additional details.
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Zed (Devin)
>>
>
>


Re: Preseed\Livecd issue

2014-10-04 Thread Michael .
With regards to the installer I don't have it in the Live image.
I have decided to encourage people to try it and if they want
 to install they can reboot and choose the install menu from
 syslinux.

On 5 October 2014 13:49, Michael .  wrote:

> I'll do that right now, thanks for the tips.
>
> On 5 October 2014 13:20, Zed  wrote:
>
>> Well, I have my preseed in the config/includes.installer directory. It is
>> picked up and read perfectly when I boot the iso into Install or Graphic
>> install – just not when I boot into live.
>>
>> Also, if you want the debian-installer available from your livecd, you
>> need to install the debian-instller-launcher. Even though the launcher
>> isn’t reading the pressed, the installer works well.
>>
>> Z
>>
>>
>> From: "Michael ." 
>> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 12:32:02 +1100
>> To: Jack Handy 
>> Cc: Debian-live mailing list 
>> Subject: Re: Preseed\Livecd issue
>>
>> Thanks so much for asking this.
>>
>> Now I have Live Build working in Jessie I am about to start on preseeding
>> so I am interested
>> in any helpful replies you get. I want to preseed language/country and
>> keyboard (nothing much) when the
>> image is installed to the computer so the user doesn't have to wade
>> through a list of English speaking countries
>> (di defaults to the USA for English and Australia is at the other end of
>> the list). Sorting out the preseed contents is done
>> I just need to know where to put it for it to work
>>
>> On 5 October 2014 10:23, Zed  wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve run into a few small snags that has me perplexed currently, and I
>>> hope someone can lend a hand.
>>>
>>> My live-build completes, and the ISO boots. Once the Live session has
>>> started, this is where I see two strange behaviors.
>>>
>>> 1.  The desktop icon for the debian-installer-launcher that I have used
>>> for many past build no longer appears on the livecd desktop.
>>> 2.  When I DO launch the debian-live-installer from the livecd (as the
>>> icon is in the System menu), it launches but does not read ANYTHING from my
>>> pressed, but if I boot to the installer or graphical installer, the pressed
>>> works exactly as expected.
>>>
>>> Details:
>>> debian-installer-shorcut.desktop file is located:
>>> config/includes.chroot/usr/share/applications/
>>> debian-installer-launcher.desktop
>>>
>>> debian-installer-launcher.desktop contents:
>>>
>>> [Desktop Entry]
>>>
>>> Version=1.0
>>>
>>> Name=Install Lilypad Linux
>>>
>>> Comment=Install this system permanently to your hard disk
>>>
>>> Exec=su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/debian-installer-launcher
>>>
>>> Icon=debian-installer-launcher
>>>
>>> Type=Application
>>>
>>> Categories=Application;System;
>>>
>>> StartupNotify=true
>>>
>>> Terminal=false
>>>
>>>
>>> Preseed.cfg location:  config/includes.installer/preseed.cfg
>>>
>>>
>>> Other location tried:
>>>
>>> config/debian-installer/preseed.cfg
>>>
>>> config/includes.debian-installer/preseed.cfg
>>>
>>> config/includes.binary/preseed.cfg (then adding file=/preseed.cfg to
>>> boot menu config)
>>>
>>> When I boot to the livecd and search for the pressed, it is on the
>>> livecd, but the desktop link ignores it completely.
>>>
>>> config/includes.binary/install/preseed.cfg (then adding
>>> file=/install/preseed.cfg to boot menu config)
>>>
>>> When I boot to the livecd and search for the pressed, it is on the
>>> livecd, but the desktop link ignores it completely.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do hope someone has some ideas on what I can try next. I have even
>>> removed all packages with the exception of desktop-base, and a dm\wm (tried
>>> various combinations with no luck). Even with just the basics, I can not
>>> get the pressed to be read when booted into the live session, and the
>>> desktop icon has just stopped working.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks all, and let me know if you need additional details.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Zed (Devin)
>>>
>>
>>
>