kde / gnome / blackbox
I have a new installation of Sarge on a Gateway M305 and the default desktop is KDE. I'm a Gnome girl :) I've looked all over the startx script, xsession, and xinit -- but I couldn't find where the call is to start KDE. My initial run level is 3 so I startx at a command prompt and I would like to start Gnome, and occassionally Blackbox, instead of KDE. Where can I change that? MTIA. /SME -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X resolution on a Gateway M305
I have a new installation of Sarge on a Gateway M305. I was unable to get X configured so I popped in a Knoppix disk and used that XF86Config-4 ... and while the Knoppix X config works, the maximum resolution possible is 800x600. The laptop is capable 1024x768 on the laptop, and can throw 1280x1024 to an external monitor. I'm not quite sure what to provide in either my XF86congfig-4 or in the log which would help in providing a higher resolution, but I would sure like more real estate on my screen ... 800x600 is an unworkablely small space. MTIA /SME -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X resolution on a Gateway M305
> > I have a new installation of Sarge on a Gateway M305. I was unable > > to get X configured so I popped in a Knoppix disk and used that > > XF86Config-4 ... and while the Knoppix X config works, the maximum > > resolution possible is 800x600. The laptop is capable 1024x768 on > > the laptop, and can throw 1280x1024 to an external monitor. > > > > I'm not quite sure what to provide in either my XF86congfig-4 or in > > the log which would help in providing a higher resolution, but I > > would sure like more real estate on my screen ... 800x600 is an > > unworkablely small space. > > > > So you copied the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file from Knoppix? That file > most likely sets the resolution to 800x600. > > In what way were you unable to get X Configured? What happens when you > as root run > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 > > If you have modified the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 -file yourself, debconf > refuses to alter it, so you need to read from the FAQ how to get that > file back under debconf control. > http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml > > http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#forceoverwriteconf > > -- > Tapio Lehtonen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > GPG public key from http://www.iki.fi/Tapio.Lehtonen > I reconfigured XF86Free-4 using 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' (with both the VESA and i810 driver) I received the following errors when trying to startx. (WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:0) found (EE) No Devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found XI0: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. I've cut and paste selections from the 'lspci' command, and the xserver-xfree86 and Knoppix generated XFree86-4 config files. I'd really love to get the 1024x768 resolution running ... Is there anything else possible to get a higher resolution? Many thanks in advance for your help. /SME -- results of 'lspci' -- these were the two lines which referenced the video chip (I think). (--) PCI:*(0:2:0) Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device rev 1, Mem [EMAIL PROTECTED]/27, 0xe000/19, I/O @0x1800/3 (--) PCI:(0:2:1) Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device rev 1, Mem [EMAIL PROTECTED]/27, 0xe000/19, I/O @0x1800/3 -- This is the Knoppix XFree86-4 generated config file for "Device," "Screen," and "Display" which does work but only gives a max 800x600 resolution. Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" VendorName "All" BoardName "All" # BusID "PCI:1:0:0" End Section Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768 "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection End Section --- This is the xserver-xfree86 generated config file for "Device," "Screen," and "Display" which doesn't work generating the PCI errors above. Section "Device" Identifier "Intel 852/855mg" Driver "vesa" BusID "PCI:0:0:0" VideoRam 8192 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Intel 852/855mg" Monitor "Generic lcd" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X resolution on a Gateway M305
> > > If you have modified the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 -file yourself, > > > debconf refuses to alter it, so you need to read from the FAQ how > > > to get that file back under debconf control. > > > http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml > > > > > > http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#forceoverwriteconf > > > > > You have checked that dpkg-reconfigure actually changes the file > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? If you altered that file without > dpkg-reconfigure, it will not store the new configuration to that > file. If this happens, read the above URL for FAQ on how to get the > file back under dpkg-reconfigure control. Yes ... it didn't at first, but I went through the faq in your link and made the md5sum change with allowed dpkg-reconfigure to save the new configuration changes. > > I reconfigured XF86Free-4 using 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' > > (with both the VESA and i810 driver) I received the following errors > > when trying to startx. > > > > (WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:0) > > found > > (EE) No Devices detected. > > This is strange. VESA should work. > > You might get higher resolution if you set Depth to 8, but then you > only get 256 colors. I'm not sure about this, I don't remember what > was the maximum resolution VESA standard supported. I've tried the color depth down to 8 and the result is the same ... no higher resolution than 800x600 is available. > > This is the Knoppix XFree86-4 generated config file for "Device," > > "Screen," and "Display" which does work but only gives a max 800x600 > > resolution. > > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Card0" > > VendorName "All" > > BoardName "All" > > # BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > > There is no Driver here? What driver is the Knoppix using? I think > this Device section will not work without a Driver line. Ah, sorry, there is a driver there -- that was a typo. Section "Device" Driver "I810" VendorName "All" Boardname "All" # BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection in the Xlog there is this line which seems to indicate that X is aware that 1024x768 is possible: (II) I810(0): Display Info: LFP (local flat panel): attached: TRUE, present: TRUE, size: (1024,768 (II) I810(0): Size of device LFP (local flat panel) is 1024 x 768 So it seems that 1024x768 should be available? But why the display is limited is a mystery. Again, many thanks in advance for your help. /S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X resolution on a Gateway M305
> in the Xlog there is this line which seems to indicate that X is aware > that 1024x768 is possible: > (II) I810(0): Display Info: LFP (local flat panel): attached: TRUE, > present: TRUE, size: (1024,768 > (II) I810(0): Size of device LFP (local flat panel) is 1024 x 768 > > So it seems that 1024x768 should be available? But why the display is > limited is a mystery. > > Again, many thanks in advance for your help. > > /S Well ... it looks like 1024x768 resolution is not possible on a laptop using the intel 852/855MG chip without a commercial driver. These two posts, at least in the absence of other information, nails this coffin down. commercial X http://www.xig.com/Pages/Atop/Topics/Topic-Trouble-XFree.html linuxquestions.org archive thread http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/18/2004/02/3/118311 I'm a bit disapointed. The XFree version currently installed on this Sarge installation is 4.3 ... would it be worth it to try to upgrade to 4.4? I searched but the highest XF86 version I found on the debian.org package search was 4.3. Would it be worth it to try the new X.org Xserver? A little bit desperate as I'm finding the 800x600 resolution is just unworkable, and purchasing a commercial xserver is a bit offputting. Many thanks. /S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde / gnome / blackbox
> If you use startx without options, it will use the default 'Debian' > startup method. This is looking for alternatives (man > update-alternatives). > > logo:~# update-alternatives --list x-session-manager > /usr/bin/icewm-session > /usr/bin/gnome-session > /usr/bin/xfce4-session > > So, > update-alternatives --config x-session-manager > should be the exact command you are looking for. > > Best regards > Martin The update-alternatives, and the entire alternatives systems structure, just rocks. I'm new (very new!) to Debian, but update-alternatives is right up there with apt-get as just damn impressive and elegant handling. Thanks for the tip. /SME -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apm : hot laptop, battery status applet, suspend
Hello: I'm running sarge on a gateway M305 and installed apm/apmd. But 1) the battery status applet still says "no battery present", 2) the laptop seems to be running hotter than it did before, and 3) when I try to suspend (as root) the screen will blank and then return. The error on the suspend command goes like this: # apm -s ehci_hcd 00:1d.7: suspend to state 3 apm: suspend: Unable to enter requested state ehci_hcd 00:1d.7: resume PCI: Enabling device 00:1f.5 (000 -> 0003) PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:1f.5 PCI: sharing IRQ 10 with 00:1f.3 PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:1f.6 i810_audio: Primary codec has ID 0 ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7652 (SigmaTel STAC9752/53) apm: Input/output error # The standby error is similar but less verbose #apm -S apm: standby: Unable to enter requeted state # MTIA for any help. Regards, /SME -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kde / gnome / blackbox
I have a new installation of Sarge on a Gateway M305 and the default desktop is KDE. I'm a Gnome girl :) I've looked all over the startx script, xsession, and xinit -- but I couldn't find where the call is to start KDE. My initial run level is 3 so I startx at a command prompt and I would like to start Gnome, and occassionally Blackbox, instead of KDE. Where can I change that? MTIA. /SME
X resolution on a Gateway M305
I have a new installation of Sarge on a Gateway M305. I was unable to get X configured so I popped in a Knoppix disk and used that XF86Config-4 ... and while the Knoppix X config works, the maximum resolution possible is 800x600. The laptop is capable 1024x768 on the laptop, and can throw 1280x1024 to an external monitor. I'm not quite sure what to provide in either my XF86congfig-4 or in the log which would help in providing a higher resolution, but I would sure like more real estate on my screen ... 800x600 is an unworkablely small space. MTIA /SME
Re: X resolution on a Gateway M305
> > I have a new installation of Sarge on a Gateway M305. I was unable > > to get X configured so I popped in a Knoppix disk and used that > > XF86Config-4 ... and while the Knoppix X config works, the maximum > > resolution possible is 800x600. The laptop is capable 1024x768 on > > the laptop, and can throw 1280x1024 to an external monitor. > > > > I'm not quite sure what to provide in either my XF86congfig-4 or in > > the log which would help in providing a higher resolution, but I > > would sure like more real estate on my screen ... 800x600 is an > > unworkablely small space. > > > > So you copied the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file from Knoppix? That file > most likely sets the resolution to 800x600. > > In what way were you unable to get X Configured? What happens when you > as root run > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 > > If you have modified the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 -file yourself, debconf > refuses to alter it, so you need to read from the FAQ how to get that > file back under debconf control. > http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml > > http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#forceoverwriteconf > > -- > Tapio Lehtonen > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > GPG public key from http://www.iki.fi/Tapio.Lehtonen > I reconfigured XF86Free-4 using 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' (with both the VESA and i810 driver) I received the following errors when trying to startx. (WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:0) found (EE) No Devices detected. Fatal server error: no screens found XI0: fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining. I've cut and paste selections from the 'lspci' command, and the xserver-xfree86 and Knoppix generated XFree86-4 config files. I'd really love to get the 1024x768 resolution running ... Is there anything else possible to get a higher resolution? Many thanks in advance for your help. /SME -- results of 'lspci' -- these were the two lines which referenced the video chip (I think). (--) PCI:*(0:2:0) Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device rev 1, Mem [EMAIL PROTECTED]/27, 0xe000/19, I/O @0x1800/3 (--) PCI:(0:2:1) Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device rev 1, Mem [EMAIL PROTECTED]/27, 0xe000/19, I/O @0x1800/3 -- This is the Knoppix XFree86-4 generated config file for "Device," "Screen," and "Display" which does work but only gives a max 800x600 resolution. Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" VendorName "All" BoardName "All" # BusID "PCI:1:0:0" End Section Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultColorDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1024x768 "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection End Section --- This is the xserver-xfree86 generated config file for "Device," "Screen," and "Display" which doesn't work generating the PCI errors above. Section "Device" Identifier "Intel 852/855mg" Driver "vesa" BusID "PCI:0:0:0" VideoRam 8192 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Default Screen" Device "Intel 852/855mg" Monitor "Generic lcd" DefaultDepth 24 Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection
Re: X resolution on a Gateway M305
> > > If you have modified the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 -file yourself, > > > debconf refuses to alter it, so you need to read from the FAQ how > > > to get that file back under debconf control. > > > http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml > > > > > > http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml#forceoverwriteconf > > > > > You have checked that dpkg-reconfigure actually changes the file > /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? If you altered that file without > dpkg-reconfigure, it will not store the new configuration to that > file. If this happens, read the above URL for FAQ on how to get the > file back under dpkg-reconfigure control. Yes ... it didn't at first, but I went through the faq in your link and made the md5sum change with allowed dpkg-reconfigure to save the new configuration changes. > > I reconfigured XF86Free-4 using 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' > > (with both the VESA and i810 driver) I received the following errors > > when trying to startx. > > > > (WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:0) > > found > > (EE) No Devices detected. > > This is strange. VESA should work. > > You might get higher resolution if you set Depth to 8, but then you > only get 256 colors. I'm not sure about this, I don't remember what > was the maximum resolution VESA standard supported. I've tried the color depth down to 8 and the result is the same ... no higher resolution than 800x600 is available. > > This is the Knoppix XFree86-4 generated config file for "Device," > > "Screen," and "Display" which does work but only gives a max 800x600 > > resolution. > > > > Section "Device" > > Identifier "Card0" > > VendorName "All" > > BoardName "All" > > # BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > > There is no Driver here? What driver is the Knoppix using? I think > this Device section will not work without a Driver line. Ah, sorry, there is a driver there -- that was a typo. Section "Device" Driver "I810" VendorName "All" Boardname "All" # BusID "PCI:1:0:0" EndSection in the Xlog there is this line which seems to indicate that X is aware that 1024x768 is possible: (II) I810(0): Display Info: LFP (local flat panel): attached: TRUE, present: TRUE, size: (1024,768 (II) I810(0): Size of device LFP (local flat panel) is 1024 x 768 So it seems that 1024x768 should be available? But why the display is limited is a mystery. Again, many thanks in advance for your help. /S
Re: X resolution on a Gateway M305
> in the Xlog there is this line which seems to indicate that X is aware > that 1024x768 is possible: > (II) I810(0): Display Info: LFP (local flat panel): attached: TRUE, > present: TRUE, size: (1024,768 > (II) I810(0): Size of device LFP (local flat panel) is 1024 x 768 > > So it seems that 1024x768 should be available? But why the display is > limited is a mystery. > > Again, many thanks in advance for your help. > > /S Well ... it looks like 1024x768 resolution is not possible on a laptop using the intel 852/855MG chip without a commercial driver. These two posts, at least in the absence of other information, nails this coffin down. commercial X http://www.xig.com/Pages/Atop/Topics/Topic-Trouble-XFree.html linuxquestions.org archive thread http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/18/2004/02/3/118311 I'm a bit disapointed. The XFree version currently installed on this Sarge installation is 4.3 ... would it be worth it to try to upgrade to 4.4? I searched but the highest XF86 version I found on the debian.org package search was 4.3. Would it be worth it to try the new X.org Xserver? A little bit desperate as I'm finding the 800x600 resolution is just unworkable, and purchasing a commercial xserver is a bit offputting. Many thanks. /S
Re: kde / gnome / blackbox
> If you use startx without options, it will use the default 'Debian' > startup method. This is looking for alternatives (man > update-alternatives). > > logo:~# update-alternatives --list x-session-manager > /usr/bin/icewm-session > /usr/bin/gnome-session > /usr/bin/xfce4-session > > So, > update-alternatives --config x-session-manager > should be the exact command you are looking for. > > Best regards > Martin The update-alternatives, and the entire alternatives systems structure, just rocks. I'm new (very new!) to Debian, but update-alternatives is right up there with apt-get as just damn impressive and elegant handling. Thanks for the tip. /SME
apm : hot laptop, battery status applet, suspend
Hello: I'm running sarge on a gateway M305 and installed apm/apmd. But 1) the battery status applet still says "no battery present", 2) the laptop seems to be running hotter than it did before, and 3) when I try to suspend (as root) the screen will blank and then return. The error on the suspend command goes like this: # apm -s ehci_hcd 00:1d.7: suspend to state 3 apm: suspend: Unable to enter requested state ehci_hcd 00:1d.7: resume PCI: Enabling device 00:1f.5 (000 -> 0003) PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:1f.5 PCI: sharing IRQ 10 with 00:1f.3 PCI: Sharing IRQ 10 with 00:1f.6 i810_audio: Primary codec has ID 0 ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: 0x8384:0x7652 (SigmaTel STAC9752/53) apm: Input/output error # The standby error is similar but less verbose #apm -S apm: standby: Unable to enter requeted state # MTIA for any help. Regards, /SME
