2.6.8 ibm function keys

2004-09-28 Thread Kfir Lavi
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hi,
i have just upgraded to the newest 2.6.8 kernel, from the last 2.6.8 kernel.
now the fn blue key on my ibm 570 tp don't work.
what should i check?
tnx
kfir
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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-28 Thread Derek Broughton
On September 27, 2004 05:06 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
>
> You're starting to worry me!  I am using 2.6.7 which was installed by
> sarge-i386-netinst-daily-build.iso (04/08/04).  I wish it were otherwise
> but I haven't knowingly changed any of those settings :-/

Unfortunately, I haven't a clue how to change them either.  None of them are 
things I would normally bother with - it just points to there being more of a 
change than just adding or removing udev.

> On the whole it's working well.  A few things are bugging me, like the fan
> only coming on with a reboot, and sleep/suspend functionality entirely
> lacking. (This may simply be because I haven't figured out how to get them
> working yet, beyond passing acpi=force as a kernel boot-parameter to enable
> acpi).

Dell ACPI is buggy - and you seem to have two errors in yours.  Make sure you 
have Dell's latest BIOS for your machine.  Most of my ACPI problems went away 
with "relaxed AML" checking, but that used to be a kernel config option, 
right after "Toshiba Laptop Extras", and I don't see it any more (in 2.6.7).  
I suspect that means it's now automatic. 

I still haven't got suspend functionality (S4), but I do have sleep (S1).  The 
fans work right.  One thing to note is that very often the fans don't come on 
just because they really shouldn't.  If you run the same machine w/ Windows, 
you get used to them being on a lot, then when you run in Linux you start to 
worry.  I've seen many posts here, to that effect, and it always turns out 
that the fans don't really need to be on because the CPU temperature hasn't 
reached the trip point.
>
> P.S What are bogomips by the way?

LOL.  It's just a rating of how fast your machine is operating (mips=million 
instructions / second).  Mine seems to be consistent, but a difference of 4 
bogomips on any modern PC is inconsequential.  
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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-28 Thread Mattia Dongili
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:46:23PM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote:
> On September 27, 2004 03:24 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
[...]
> Did you always have to do that?  I do. I can only attach my USB mouse (on an 
> Inspiron 2500 w/ 2.6.7) _after_  I get the Synaptics pad recognized.  I'm 
> sure that's something to do with the ordering of the loading of various 
> modules, because I can get X to start up if I very carefully remove all the 
> modules, then modprobe psmouse, then start X, then connect the USB mouse. 

I had the same problem and there are 2 possible causes:
1. Legacy USB support must be disabled in your bios
2. modules loading order, I have the following sequence in /etc/modules:
  cpufreq_powersave
  uhci-hcd
  hid
  agpgart
  intel-agp
  radeon
  pcspkr
  evdev
  speedstep-ich
  sonypi
  psmouse
thus psmouse is the last one. I didn't worry too much about hotplug, it
will just complain about the modules already loaded

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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-28 Thread Derek Broughton
On September 28, 2004 08:47 am, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:46:23PM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote:

> > Did you always have to do that?  I do. I can only attach my USB mouse (on
> > an Inspiron 2500 w/ 2.6.7) _after_  I get the Synaptics pad recognized. 
> > I'm sure that's something to do with the ordering of the loading of
> > various modules, because I can get X to start up if I very carefully
> > remove all the modules, then modprobe psmouse, then start X, then connect
> > the USB mouse.
>
> I had the same problem and there are 2 possible causes:
> 1. Legacy USB support must be disabled in your bios
> 2. modules loading order, I have the following sequence in /etc/modules:
>   cpufreq_powersave
>   uhci-hcd
>   hid
>   agpgart
>   intel-agp
>   radeon
>   pcspkr
>   evdev
>   speedstep-ich
>   sonypi
>   psmouse
> thus psmouse is the last one. I didn't worry too much about hotplug, it
> will just complain about the modules already loaded

I have agpgart and intel-agp compiled in, don't use cpufreq, radeon, pcspkr, 
speedstep or sonypi, so that leaves:

>   uhci-hcd
>   hid
>   evdev
>   psmouse

I was missing uhci-hcd in there.  Let's see if it helps.  Thanks.

As I mentioned somewhere in this thread, I actually have evdev & psmouse 
compiled in now, too, so that might screw things up.  Next time I do a kernel 
compile, I'll definitely leave evdev & psmouse out, as it didn't help at all.
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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-28 Thread Mattia Dongili
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 01:43:08PM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote:
> On September 28, 2004 08:47 am, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:46:23PM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote:
[...]
> I have agpgart and intel-agp compiled in, don't use cpufreq, radeon, pcspkr, 
> speedstep or sonypi, so that leaves:
> 
> >   uhci-hcd
> >   hid
> >   evdev
> >   psmouse

hehe, sorry for the garbage :) I just included the full /etc/modules

> I was missing uhci-hcd in there.  Let's see if it helps.  Thanks.

wait, this depends on your controller (see 'lspci -v | grep -i usb')

> As I mentioned somewhere in this thread, I actually have evdev & psmouse 
> compiled in now, too, so that might screw things up.  Next time I do a kernel 

yes, it will... compiled-in modules will be initialized obviously before
what you load when the boot process ends, while we need to load psmouse
_after_ the usb controller module.
hmmm... let me see if I can still find my old post on lkml found!
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=107512645524219&w=2

> compile, I'll definitely leave evdev & psmouse out, as it didn't help at all.

this is the only workaround I'm aware of. 

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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-28 Thread Mattia Dongili
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 09:06:48PM +0100, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 20:05, Derek Broughton wrote:
[...]
> On the whole it's working well.  A few things are bugging me, like the fan only
> coming on with a reboot, and sleep/suspend functionality entirely lacking.
> (This may simply be because I haven't figured out how to get them working yet,
> beyond passing acpi=force as a kernel boot-parameter to enable acpi).

Afaik (but may be wrong) sleep is disabled in standard Debian kernels as
it's a pretty experimental feature, so if you want it you have to
experiment yourself.

> Have you got these working on your Inspiron?

(I don't have in Inspiron but you'd better try to find out if someone
has been able to put that laptop to sleep as it can be quite a pita to
find it out yourself)

> > > If you think my suspicions may be correct and I need to recreate the device
> > > file somehow, how would I do that and what would I call it?
> > 
> > I don't think, but "mknod" can be used to create some of these if you have 
> > to..

better use MAKEDEV for the known devices (see man MAKEDEV for details)

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Re: 2.6.8 ibm function keys

2004-09-28 Thread Marcus C. Gottwald

Kfir Lavi wrote (Tue 2004-Sep-28 13:10:25 +0200):

> i have just upgraded to the newest 2.6.8 kernel, from the last 2.6.8 kernel.
> now the fn blue key on my ibm 570 tp don't work.
> what should i check?

Debian bugs #272177 and #273474.


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Re: General question on wireless

2004-09-28 Thread Chris Kacoroski
Hi,
I have been able to get the truemobile 1300 - ndiswrappers working with
anonymous access points, but not with an access point that requires a
key.  I can set the key, but not the essid.  It just ignores iwconfig 
wlan0 essid Admin-Wireless.

I tried the truemobile 1150 which uses the build in drivers and it finds 
the network.  I set the key and it finds the access point.  I seem to be 
able to send data, but I cannot receive any data even if I set the ip by 
hand.

Any help appreciated on either of these issues.  I just want to get a 
card working reliably with open and closed networks.

ski

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Re: Testing on Inspiron 5150 (or 5160)

2004-09-28 Thread Dirk Reiss
H. S. wrote:
[...]
I learn that the BIOS that Dell is giving out, later than A08 if I am 
not wrong, causes some troubles with ACPM or something like this? Sorry, 
am not familiar with laptop so feel free to explain things to me.

Thanks,
->HS
Hello H. (?),
i have an a 5150 (the one with ATI graphics, older version) and so far i 
can say everything works quite fine. Although i first had troubles with 
ACPI (kind of description and access-point to components like processor 
frequency, temperature etc.), now it seems to work fine. I am actually 
running sarge/some sid on it.

If you have any detailed questions, don't hesitate to contact me directly.
Best,
Dirk
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Re: Testing on Inspiron 5150 (or 5160)

2004-09-28 Thread Ivan Fernandez
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 10:31:59PM -0700, H. S. wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have experience with Debian on 5150? Any
> quirks or should Testing or Unstable work just after
> installation.

I'm writing this on a 5150 running testing.  No big problems.  I haven't
been able to get suspend/sleep to work, but I can't say I've tried too
hard either.  Getting DRI acceleration working was a bit convoluted, but
with info from a few websites I managed to do it.  I can provide kernel
.config files or other specific info if you are interested.  This
machine is about a year old, I don't know how much the hardware has
changed in recent 5150s.  Wireless card will definitely not work (except
if you use ndiswrapper, but I'd rather not go there).  Another thing I
have not managed to make work is the modem, but again I haven't put much
of an effort into it.

It's kind of heavy, good if you want a semi-stationary laptop, but the
screen is big and beautiful, the keyboard has a reasonable size, and
battery life is surprisingly good for a 15" display.

Cheers

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Testing on Inspiron 5150 (or 5160)

2004-09-28 Thread H. S.

Does anyone have experience with Debian on 5150? Any
quirks or should Testing or Unstable work just after
installation.

Thanks,
->HS



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Re: Testing on Inspiron 5150 (or 5160)

2004-09-28 Thread H. S.

Apparently, _H. S._, on 09/28/04 01:31,typed:

Does anyone have experience with Debian on 5150? Any
quirks or should Testing or Unstable work just after
installation.

Thanks,
->HS


I learn that the BIOS that Dell is giving out, later than A08 if I am 
not wrong, causes some troubles with ACPM or something like this? Sorry, 
am not familiar with laptop so feel free to explain things to me.


Thanks,
->HS



2.6.8 ibm function keys

2004-09-28 Thread Kfir Lavi
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hi,
i have just upgraded to the newest 2.6.8 kernel, from the last 2.6.8 kernel.
now the fn blue key on my ibm 570 tp don't work.
what should i check?
tnx
kfir
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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-28 Thread Derek Broughton
On September 27, 2004 05:06 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
>
> You're starting to worry me!  I am using 2.6.7 which was installed by
> sarge-i386-netinst-daily-build.iso (04/08/04).  I wish it were otherwise
> but I haven't knowingly changed any of those settings :-/

Unfortunately, I haven't a clue how to change them either.  None of them are 
things I would normally bother with - it just points to there being more of a 
change than just adding or removing udev.

> On the whole it's working well.  A few things are bugging me, like the fan
> only coming on with a reboot, and sleep/suspend functionality entirely
> lacking. (This may simply be because I haven't figured out how to get them
> working yet, beyond passing acpi=force as a kernel boot-parameter to enable
> acpi).

Dell ACPI is buggy - and you seem to have two errors in yours.  Make sure you 
have Dell's latest BIOS for your machine.  Most of my ACPI problems went away 
with "relaxed AML" checking, but that used to be a kernel config option, 
right after "Toshiba Laptop Extras", and I don't see it any more (in 2.6.7).  
I suspect that means it's now automatic. 

I still haven't got suspend functionality (S4), but I do have sleep (S1).  The 
fans work right.  One thing to note is that very often the fans don't come on 
just because they really shouldn't.  If you run the same machine w/ Windows, 
you get used to them being on a lot, then when you run in Linux you start to 
worry.  I've seen many posts here, to that effect, and it always turns out 
that the fans don't really need to be on because the CPU temperature hasn't 
reached the trip point.
>
> P.S What are bogomips by the way?

LOL.  It's just a rating of how fast your machine is operating (mips=million 
instructions / second).  Mine seems to be consistent, but a difference of 4 
bogomips on any modern PC is inconsequential.  
-- 
derek



Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-28 Thread Mattia Dongili
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:46:23PM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote:
> On September 27, 2004 03:24 pm, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
[...]
> Did you always have to do that?  I do. I can only attach my USB mouse (on an 
> Inspiron 2500 w/ 2.6.7) _after_  I get the Synaptics pad recognized.  I'm 
> sure that's something to do with the ordering of the loading of various 
> modules, because I can get X to start up if I very carefully remove all the 
> modules, then modprobe psmouse, then start X, then connect the USB mouse. 

I had the same problem and there are 2 possible causes:
1. Legacy USB support must be disabled in your bios
2. modules loading order, I have the following sequence in /etc/modules:
  cpufreq_powersave
  uhci-hcd
  hid
  agpgart
  intel-agp
  radeon
  pcspkr
  evdev
  speedstep-ich
  sonypi
  psmouse
thus psmouse is the last one. I didn't worry too much about hotplug, it
will just complain about the modules already loaded

hth :)
-- 
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Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-28 Thread Derek Broughton
On September 28, 2004 08:47 am, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:46:23PM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote:

> > Did you always have to do that?  I do. I can only attach my USB mouse (on
> > an Inspiron 2500 w/ 2.6.7) _after_  I get the Synaptics pad recognized. 
> > I'm sure that's something to do with the ordering of the loading of
> > various modules, because I can get X to start up if I very carefully
> > remove all the modules, then modprobe psmouse, then start X, then connect
> > the USB mouse.
>
> I had the same problem and there are 2 possible causes:
> 1. Legacy USB support must be disabled in your bios
> 2. modules loading order, I have the following sequence in /etc/modules:
>   cpufreq_powersave
>   uhci-hcd
>   hid
>   agpgart
>   intel-agp
>   radeon
>   pcspkr
>   evdev
>   speedstep-ich
>   sonypi
>   psmouse
> thus psmouse is the last one. I didn't worry too much about hotplug, it
> will just complain about the modules already loaded

I have agpgart and intel-agp compiled in, don't use cpufreq, radeon, pcspkr, 
speedstep or sonypi, so that leaves:

>   uhci-hcd
>   hid
>   evdev
>   psmouse

I was missing uhci-hcd in there.  Let's see if it helps.  Thanks.

As I mentioned somewhere in this thread, I actually have evdev & psmouse 
compiled in now, too, so that might screw things up.  Next time I do a kernel 
compile, I'll definitely leave evdev & psmouse out, as it didn't help at all.
-- 
derek



Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-28 Thread Mattia Dongili
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 01:43:08PM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote:
> On September 28, 2004 08:47 am, Mattia Dongili wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 03:46:23PM -0300, Derek Broughton wrote:
[...]
> I have agpgart and intel-agp compiled in, don't use cpufreq, radeon, pcspkr, 
> speedstep or sonypi, so that leaves:
> 
> >   uhci-hcd
> >   hid
> >   evdev
> >   psmouse

hehe, sorry for the garbage :) I just included the full /etc/modules

> I was missing uhci-hcd in there.  Let's see if it helps.  Thanks.

wait, this depends on your controller (see 'lspci -v | grep -i usb')

> As I mentioned somewhere in this thread, I actually have evdev & psmouse 
> compiled in now, too, so that might screw things up.  Next time I do a kernel 

yes, it will... compiled-in modules will be initialized obviously before
what you load when the boot process ends, while we need to load psmouse
_after_ the usb controller module.
hmmm... let me see if I can still find my old post on lkml found!
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernel&m=107512645524219&w=2

> compile, I'll definitely leave evdev & psmouse out, as it didn't help at all.

this is the only workaround I'm aware of. 

-- 
mattia
:wq!



Re: Touchpad functionality dissappeared for no apparent reason!

2004-09-28 Thread Mattia Dongili
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 09:06:48PM +0100, Sebastian Tennant wrote:
> On Mon, 2004-09-27 at 20:05, Derek Broughton wrote:
[...]
> On the whole it's working well.  A few things are bugging me, like the fan 
> only
> coming on with a reboot, and sleep/suspend functionality entirely lacking.
> (This may simply be because I haven't figured out how to get them working yet,
> beyond passing acpi=force as a kernel boot-parameter to enable acpi).

Afaik (but may be wrong) sleep is disabled in standard Debian kernels as
it's a pretty experimental feature, so if you want it you have to
experiment yourself.

> Have you got these working on your Inspiron?

(I don't have in Inspiron but you'd better try to find out if someone
has been able to put that laptop to sleep as it can be quite a pita to
find it out yourself)

> > > If you think my suspicions may be correct and I need to recreate the 
> > > device
> > > file somehow, how would I do that and what would I call it?
> > 
> > I don't think, but "mknod" can be used to create some of these if you have 
> > to..

better use MAKEDEV for the known devices (see man MAKEDEV for details)

hth
-- 
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:wq!



Re: 2.6.8 ibm function keys

2004-09-28 Thread Marcus C. Gottwald

Kfir Lavi wrote (Tue 2004-Sep-28 13:10:25 +0200):

> i have just upgraded to the newest 2.6.8 kernel, from the last 2.6.8 kernel.
> now the fn blue key on my ibm 570 tp don't work.
> what should i check?

Debian bugs #272177 and #273474.


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Re: General question on wireless

2004-09-28 Thread Chris Kacoroski

Hi,

I have been able to get the truemobile 1300 - ndiswrappers working with
anonymous access points, but not with an access point that requires a
key.  I can set the key, but not the essid.  It just ignores iwconfig 
wlan0 essid Admin-Wireless.


I tried the truemobile 1150 which uses the build in drivers and it finds 
the network.  I set the key and it finds the access point.  I seem to be 
able to send data, but I cannot receive any data even if I set the ip by 
hand.


Any help appreciated on either of these issues.  I just want to get a 
card working reliably with open and closed networks.


ski




Re: Testing on Inspiron 5150 (or 5160)

2004-09-28 Thread Dirk Reiss

H. S. wrote:

[...]

I learn that the BIOS that Dell is giving out, later than A08 if I am 
not wrong, causes some troubles with ACPM or something like this? Sorry, 
am not familiar with laptop so feel free to explain things to me.


Thanks,
->HS


Hello H. (?),

i have an a 5150 (the one with ATI graphics, older version) and so far i 
can say everything works quite fine. Although i first had troubles with 
ACPI (kind of description and access-point to components like processor 
frequency, temperature etc.), now it seems to work fine. I am actually 
running sarge/some sid on it.


If you have any detailed questions, don't hesitate to contact me directly.

Best,

Dirk



Re: Testing on Inspiron 5150 (or 5160)

2004-09-28 Thread Ivan Fernandez
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 10:31:59PM -0700, H. S. wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have experience with Debian on 5150? Any
> quirks or should Testing or Unstable work just after
> installation.

I'm writing this on a 5150 running testing.  No big problems.  I haven't
been able to get suspend/sleep to work, but I can't say I've tried too
hard either.  Getting DRI acceleration working was a bit convoluted, but
with info from a few websites I managed to do it.  I can provide kernel
.config files or other specific info if you are interested.  This
machine is about a year old, I don't know how much the hardware has
changed in recent 5150s.  Wireless card will definitely not work (except
if you use ndiswrapper, but I'd rather not go there).  Another thing I
have not managed to make work is the modem, but again I haven't put much
of an effort into it.

It's kind of heavy, good if you want a semi-stationary laptop, but the
screen is big and beautiful, the keyboard has a reasonable size, and
battery life is surprisingly good for a 15" display.

Cheers

-- 
Ivan Fernández
[EMAIL PROTECTED]