Re: Compaq Presario 900 can't find hard drive

2003-09-02 Thread Fedor Karpelevitch
On Понедельник 01 Сентябрь 2003 01:06 pm, criggie wrote:
> I've got access to a Compaq Presario 900 through work, an AMD
> Athlon-based machine.
>
> I've got around a couple of problems, I have to boot with ide=nodma
> and nomce according to various web sites.
>
> So I can get right to the start of the installation procedure, but
> both fdisk and cfdisk say "can't open /dev/hda"
>
> The drive is an 18 Gb Fujitsu 2.5" drive on an ALI controller, and
> it is visible in the dmesg output.  However, if I reboot from there
> and let it start the other installed OS then it sais "NO OPERATING
> SYSTEM FOUND"
>
> It seems that something is shutting down/spinning down the IDE
> drive or the controller so that a power off is required to reset
> it.
>
> Anyone got any ideas?

with kernel 2.4.22 you should be all right without any special 
options. Also I recommend that you subscribe to presario900 mail 
list:  http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/linuxpresario900

Fedor



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Re: ASUS L3800CE

2003-09-02 Thread jhorton

David Fokkema wrote:

Hello David et. al,

Anyone who is considering purchasing a "hi-end" laptop should consider 
the features on the Prostart,
It has everything, including DVD RW, USB2.0, a built-in removable MP3 
player(smartdisk storage),
sony memory stick support, BT878 for video in and out, etc, etc. I have 
not gotten everything working

under Debian, but, that is more due to too many other projects.

Physically, the machine is an inch or so thick, and heavier than most 
portables, but, if you want every
widget available, this is the one. Also when I ordered the machine, even 
though I hate Microsoft, it
was nice that they shipped a COMPLETE windows 2k_PRO, as the default 
installation, instead of one
of those partial_birth_abortion CDs that is useless for a variety of 
installation problems and customization
needs, when your clients require to work with MS. I also suspect that 
the BIOS, in not one of those
REDMOND corrupted varieties, although, I do not have direct proof of 
that, yet.


http://www.amazinglaptops.com/prostar-8814specs.htm


James


Hi group,

After much thinking, I decided to buy a new laptop. From the respones to
my question about ATI cards I gathered that I really should buy a laptop
with a Radeon card. I am thinking about buying the ASUS L3800CE with the
ATI Radeon Mobility 7500. I looked through linux-laptop.net and the
debian-laptop archives. Looks good...

Does anyone have anything to say before I buy it?

Thanks,

David

 







Re: ASUS L3800CE

2003-09-02 Thread Warren Dodge
This one time, at band camp, jhorton said:
(Tuesday 02 September 2003 04:43)

> Anyone who is considering purchasing a "hi-end" laptop should consider
> the features on the Prostart,
> It has everything, including DVD RW, USB2.0, a built-in removable MP3
> player(smartdisk storage),
> sony memory stick support, BT878 for video in and out, etc, etc. I have
> not gotten everything working
> under Debian, but, that is more due to too many other projects.
>
> Physically, the machine is an inch or so thick, and heavier than most
> portables, but, if you want every
> widget available, this is the one. Also when I ordered the machine, even
> though I hate Microsoft, it
> was nice that they shipped a COMPLETE windows 2k_PRO, as the default
> installation, instead of one
> of those partial_birth_abortion CDs that is useless for a variety of
> installation problems and customization
> needs, when your clients require to work with MS. I also suspect that
> the BIOS, in not one of those
> REDMOND corrupted varieties, although, I do not have direct proof of
> that, yet.
>
> http://www.amazinglaptops.com/prostar-8814specs.htm
>
> James
>

Those are very high quality machines, but very large and heavy also (12 pounts 
for the 88xx series!). They're pretty much the ultimate "desktop replacement" 
machines. They're manufactured by Clevo/Kapok and distributed by Sager, 
Prostar, etc. They're sold at http://www.pctorque.com , 
http://www.powernotebooks.com , http://www.discountlaptops.com as well -- 
check around. There's also a nice discussion forum site at 
http://www.talknotebooks.com . 
I'm not affiliated, just also interested in these monsters!

Warren



Two fixed network cards

2003-09-02 Thread David Z Maze
My laptop has two fixed (e.g., not PCMCIA) network cards, one wired
and one wireless (802.11a/b combo).  Both are set up by default to use
DHCP in /etc/network/interfaces, and right now the wired card comes up
first.  I'd like to not wait to a DHCP timeout if I don't need to.  I
also know the question "is there an Ethernet cable connected" can be
asked, though not how.  Also, I don't want both the wired and wireless
up the vast majority of the time.

So, what I'd like is to have my network startup work something like
this:

  if eth0.have_ethernet_cable():
eth0.ifup()
  if not eth0.has_address():
eth1.ifup()

(So, don't try to bring the wired interface up if there's not a
connection, and don't try to bring the wireless up if we successfully
brought the wired interface up.)

Any hints on how to do this?  (Besides writing ifupdown-python?  :-)

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Re: No fsck in battery mode

2003-09-02 Thread Derek Broughton
From: "Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Derek Broughton wrote:
>
> > From: "Frédéric Bothamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > Except that since it is under /usr, it might not be available at fsck
> > > time (that is, before /usr is mounted in /etc/rcS.d/S30checkfs.sh).
> >
> > Doh!  Of course you're right.  I wonder if it could be copied to /boot
> > and still work?
>
> Sure:
>
> $ ldd /usr/bin/on_ac_power
> not a dynamic executable

That's what I expected, but hadn't checked yet.

> > Matt's solution is good - but it must have the same problem:
> > grep will be available at the same time as on_ac_power!
>
> $ which grep
> /bin/grep
>
> Did you set up with / and /boot on separate partitions?

You betcha :-)  But it's a non-generic situation, anyway.  During
S10checkroot.sh, / is available - but there's no telling how your system is
partitioned.  In my case, /usr (and /usr/bin) are on /.  Obviously, in other
cases /usr isn't.




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Re: Mouse and keyboard problems

2003-09-02 Thread Jan T. Kim
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 01:20:50PM -0500, Charles Blair wrote:
> 
>I installed debian on a Toshiba 1405 laptop approximately a year ago.
> 
>Problem 1: when I am in an xterm window (from gnome?), I often
> get a letter repeated when I press a key.  I read somewhere that
> this can be fixed by changing a "stickykeys" setting, but I would
> like to know exactly what file to edit and what I do there.

I have a Toshiba Satellite 5100 which has a similar problem with
the keyboard -- without any fixup, 1% of the keystrokes are doubled,
but this happens only with the X window system, the consoles are not
affected.

The commands

xkbset exp bo
xkbset bo 1

fix this problem. I have these in the init function in my ~/.fvwm2rc
file, for gnome, I don't know what the right file for putting startup
commands would be.

The xkbset program is not part of the standard X11 packages, but
a debian package exists:

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/xkbset.html

My experience is with a self-compiled xkbset program, though.

>Problem 2:  The touchpad mouse jumps around uncontrollably, and
> won't move at all after a few minutes of use.

This is usually due to having a wrong mouse type specified in
/etx/X11/XF86Config-4. Sometimes, the problem is caused by gpm, when
the /dev/gpmdata device is used by XFree86. In my experience, it's best
not to have gpm translate the mouse protocoll at all (i.e. use the
"raw" protocol).

Greetinx, Jan
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Re: No fsck in battery mode

2003-09-02 Thread Jason Kraftcheck

Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote:

On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Derek Broughton wrote:



From: "Frédéric Bothamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Except that since it is under /usr, it might not be available at fsck
time (that is, before /usr is mounted in /etc/rcS.d/S30checkfs.sh).


Doh!  Of course you're right.  I wonder if it could be copied to /boot
and still work?



Sure:

$ ldd /usr/bin/on_ac_power
not a dynamic executable



That is the response ldd usually gives for a shell script.  You need to do 
'ldd' for every executable called by the script, and the interpreter (the 
shell) to determine which libraries the script depends on.


-- jason kraftcheck



Re: No fsck in battery mode

2003-09-02 Thread Derek Broughton
From: "Jason Kraftcheck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote:
> > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Derek Broughton wrote:
> >
> >
> >>From: "Frédéric Bothamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>>Except that since it is under /usr, it might not be available at fsck
> >>>time (that is, before /usr is mounted in /etc/rcS.d/S30checkfs.sh).
> >>
> >>Doh!  Of course you're right.  I wonder if it could be copied to /boot
> >>and still work?
> >
> >
> > Sure:
> >
> > $ ldd /usr/bin/on_ac_power
> > not a dynamic executable
>
> That is the response ldd usually gives for a shell script.  You need to do
> 'ldd' for every executable called by the script, and the interpreter (the
> shell) to determine which libraries the script depends on.

I could have sworn that it was an executable last time I looked, but I see it
really is a script. In any case, the problem is the same - grep (and in this
case awk) have to be available.  I guess grep should be there - because we're
already running shell scripts, and both are in /bin - but awk may not be.




Re: Two fixed network cards

2003-09-02 Thread Dave Thayer
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:39:44AM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
> My laptop has two fixed (e.g., not PCMCIA) network cards, one wired
> and one wireless (802.11a/b combo).  Both are set up by default to use
> DHCP in /etc/network/interfaces, and right now the wired card comes up
> first.  I'd like to not wait to a DHCP timeout if I don't need to.  I
> also know the question "is there an Ethernet cable connected" can be
> asked, though not how.  Also, I don't want both the wired and wireless
> up the vast majority of the time.
> 

Ifplugd (in sid/testing) should do the trick:

Description: A configuration daemon for ethernet devices
 ifplugd is a daemon which will automatically configure your
 ethernet device when a cable is plugged in and automatically
 unconfigure it if the cable is pulled. This is useful on laptops with
 onboard network adapters, since it will only configure the interface
 when a cable is really connected.

HTH

DT

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Re: Two fixed network cards

2003-09-02 Thread David Z Maze
Dave Thayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:39:44AM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
>> My laptop has two fixed (e.g., not PCMCIA) network cards, one wired
>> and one wireless (802.11a/b combo).  Both are set up by default to use
>> DHCP in /etc/network/interfaces, and right now the wired card comes up
>> first.  I'd like to not wait to a DHCP timeout if I don't need to.  I
>> also know the question "is there an Ethernet cable connected" can be
>> asked, though not how.  Also, I don't want both the wired and wireless
>> up the vast majority of the time.
>> 
>
> Ifplugd (in sid/testing) should do the trick:

Aah, that looks like it, thanks.  README.gz says "support for wireless
networking, whenever an AP is detected the network is configured"; I
wonder if that'll work with my sketchy wireless driver.  :-)

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Toshiba T1910CS power problem

2003-09-02 Thread Elizabeth Barham
Hi,

   I'm having a strange problem with my T1910CS laptop in that it is
having difficulty powering on. Symptoms:

1) When the AC Adapter is used, the green DC-IN light is steady,
   which means its okay, but

   +) If the battery is in, or
   +) I try to start it (see 2),

   then the DC-IN light will flash, which means the computer is
   not receiving enough electricty.

2) When I try to turn the computer on it starts for generally the
   briefest amount of time and then goes right back off. After
   this the DC-IN light blinks for sure (although if the battery
   is in it goes off soon after it recognizes the battery).

   The weird thing about this, however, is that if I keep trying
   to start the computer over-and-over again in rapid sucession
   for a rather lengthy period of time (like 10-15 minutes) in
   that I almost instantly hit the power button each time it fails
   to power up, it works. In fact, each time I do the rapid
   re-start power-up method, the computer seems to stay on a bit
   longer each time. Eventually it passes some threshold and
   "catches" and remains on.

   Are these symptoms anyone recognizes? I do not want to keep hitting
"on/off" for 15 minutes to use the laptop!

   Thank you,
   Elizabeth

 T1910 Toshiba Laptop



Re: Two fixed network cards

2003-09-02 Thread Victor Cain
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:14 pm, David Z Maze wrote:
> Dave Thayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:39:44AM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
> >> My laptop has two fixed (e.g., not PCMCIA) network cards, one wired
> >> and one wireless (802.11a/b combo).  Both are set up by default to use
> >> DHCP in /etc/network/interfaces, and right now the wired card comes up
> >> first.  I'd like to not wait to a DHCP timeout if I don't need to.  I
> >> also know the question "is there an Ethernet cable connected" can be
> >> asked, though not how.  Also, I don't want both the wired and wireless
> >> up the vast majority of the time.
> >
> > Ifplugd (in sid/testing) should do the trick:
>
> Aah, that looks like it, thanks.  README.gz says "support for wireless
> networking, whenever an AP is detected the network is configured"; I
> wonder if that'll work with my sketchy wireless driver.  :-)

I tried ifplugd on a ThinkPad A20P that has a fixed, wired, network card and a 
PCMCIA wireless.  It did not configure the wireless card, but ifstatus 
correctly tells me when the wire is unplugged.  Anyway, if you get it 
working, maybe you could let us know what you did.

Cheers,
 
Victor R. Cain (865)435-5084Fax:(865)435-9709
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-- Oscar Wilde



Re: ASUS L3800CE

2003-09-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:09:14AM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> After much thinking, I decided to buy a new laptop. From the respones to
> my question about ATI cards I gathered that I really should buy a laptop
> with a Radeon card. I am thinking about buying the ASUS L3800CE with the
> ATI Radeon Mobility 7500. I looked through linux-laptop.net and the
> debian-laptop archives. Looks good...
> 
> Does anyone have anything to say before I buy it?

Hi group,

Thank you all for replying. Unfortunately, the L3800 was out of stock
and they didn't know when (if at all) they would be delivered again. So
I went to another store and ordered a L5800 for about the same price,
;-) It has a Radeon 9000, which, according to a previous thread, is also
well supported by XFree 4.3. Furthermore, it has usb 2.0 instead of 1.1,
etc. There isn't an entry at linux-laptop.net, but looking through the
specs, I suspect it'll work perfectly, except for TV-Out, since the 9000
is not supported by the gatos project. Ati mentions on its website that
it is working on supporting the TV-Out for linux, so I'm optimistic
about that too.

David

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Re: Toshiba T1910CS power problem

2003-09-02 Thread Bill Marcum
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 12:34:04PM -0500, Elizabeth Barham wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>I'm having a strange problem with my T1910CS laptop in that it is
> having difficulty powering on. Symptoms:
> 
> 1) When the AC Adapter is used, the green DC-IN light is steady,
>which means its okay, but
> 
>+) If the battery is in, or
>+) I try to start it (see 2),
> 
>then the DC-IN light will flash, which means the computer is
>not receiving enough electricty.
> 
> 2) When I try to turn the computer on it starts for generally the
>briefest amount of time and then goes right back off. After
>this the DC-IN light blinks for sure (although if the battery
>is in it goes off soon after it recognizes the battery).
> 
It could be that one of the two internal batteries has gone bad.


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Re: Dell Inspiron 5100 + Debian Woody : DRI & ACPI won't work

2003-09-02 Thread Norbert Schulz
Try http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html

There are around 15 setup procedures for Linux on this notbook listed.

Good Luck  !

Norbert


- Original Message -
From: "tvn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:27 AM
Subject: Dell Inspiron 5100 + Debian Woody : DRI & ACPI won't work


> It seems to me that DRI  &   ACPI  won't work on this machine w/
> Debian Woody.
>
> For Dri:  I've compiled the latest kernel and tried it with different
> XFREE versions, even the unofficial 4.2 debs ... no go. The Radeon that
> I d/led from dri.sf.net loaded,  modprobe agpgart , modprobe radeon ,  X
> starts fine , only problem is that Dri does not run (from glxinfo)
>
> For Acpi: one of the steps require using Intels iasl tool and this
> tool apparently requires GLIB2.3 .  Woody comes with 2.2
>
>
> So *if anyone* can get these 2 working on Woody, please let me know -
> Thanks in advance.
>
> PS.  What about Sarge ?  Anyone has success setting up Sarge w/ this
> laptop ?
>
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netenv configuration

2003-09-02 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
I'm trying to work my way through the configuration examples for netenv
with my laptop:
http://netenv.sourceforge.net/netenv-en.html#config
but I'm not sure how to configure my system from these examples.

I currently have two configurations:
AT HOME
- DHCP ethernet (typically wireless)
- CUPS connection to the printer
Config file looks like this:
netenv_id=At_home
export IPADDR=192.168.1.100
export NETWORK=192.168.1.0
export NETMASK=255.255.255.0
export BROADCAST=192.168.1.255
export GATEWAY=192.168.1.1
export PROFILE=default
(This is the default install from when I installed debian, I think. My
router is DHCP, but it seems to have no problems with me picking my own IP
address.)

AWAY
- no ethernet
- no printer
Config file looks like this:
netenv_id=No_Ethernet
# there is not internet/ethernet connection in this mode
STARTMODE=manual

This is what I'm confused about:
- When I'm "at home" netenv is the first thing that loads when I boot 
  my computer--but my wireless card isn't loaded so netenv wastes 
  time trying to find a connection to the internet. What do I need to 
add to the
  configuration to get my wireless card (which is an orinoco card using
  the pcmcia-cs packages) to load so that netenv can find the internet?

- I currently start fetchmail by hand depending on whether or not I
  have an internet connection. I would like to add this variable to the
  netenv config files so that fetchmail starts picking up mail IF I'm 
"at home".
  Right now I'm not using a system-wide fetchmail, just one that's
  configured through my home directory ~/.fetchmailrc (I'm not sure if 
that makes
  sense...).

- When I'm "away" I don't want the CUPS server running. It's not that
  it's a bad thing, I just don't need it. How do I tell netenv not to
  bother starting the CUPS server if I'm "away"? I also don't want 
  fetchmail running if there isn't an internet connection (which is my 
  current default).

Thanks for your suggestions on this configuration problem,
emma :)


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Re: Dell Inspiron 5100 + Debian Woody : DRI & ACPI won't work

2003-09-02 Thread tvn

And I read *all* of them,  also other different models w/ similar
configs.  None uses Woody on this model w/ success with the below 2
problems.  I switched to Sarge yesterday and seems to be able to get it
working, will keep trying though.  Thanks  




On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 22:14:02 +0200
"Norbert Schulz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Try http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html
> 
> There are around 15 setup procedures for Linux on this notbook listed.
> 
> Good Luck  !
> 
> Norbert
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "tvn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:27 AM
> Subject: Dell Inspiron 5100 + Debian Woody : DRI & ACPI won't work
> 
> 
> > It seems to me that DRI  &   ACPI  won't work on this machine w/
> > Debian Woody.
> >
> > For Dri:  I've compiled the latest kernel and tried it with
> > different XFREE versions, even the unofficial 4.2 debs ... no go.
> > The Radeon that I d/led from dri.sf.net loaded,  modprobe agpgart ,
> > modprobe radeon ,  X starts fine , only problem is that Dri does not
> > run (from glxinfo)
> >
> > For Acpi: one of the steps require using Intels iasl tool and this
> > tool apparently requires GLIB2.3 .  Woody comes with 2.2
> >
> >
> > So *if anyone* can get these 2 working on Woody, please let me know
> > - Thanks in advance.
> >
> > PS.  What about Sarge ?  Anyone has success setting up Sarge w/ this
> > laptop ?
> >
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Re: Toshiba T1910CS power problem

2003-09-02 Thread Elizabeth Barham
Bill writes:

> It could be that one of the two internal batteries has gone bad.

Hi Bill,

   Thank you for your reply.

   I am aware of one internal battery which I suppose is the CMOS
battery. It is housed in a convenient location for replacement (right
under the keyboard near the hard disk drive) - it is a green battery
that looks like a AA battery and says NI-MH and 4K3 on it.

   But I am unaware of any other internal battery. Do you know where
it may be located and what it may look like?

   Sincerely,
   Elizabeth



Re: ASUS L3800CE

2003-09-02 Thread ben
Hi!

I've got an l3800 with radeon 7500, works well but I can't get 3d in 
xfree86 4.2...

oh, I did have a harddrive failure too
haven't found out if this is a common problem tho.
ben.

David Fokkema wrote:

Hi group,

After much thinking, I decided to buy a new laptop. From the respones to
my question about ATI cards I gathered that I really should buy a laptop
with a Radeon card. I am thinking about buying the ASUS L3800CE with the
ATI Radeon Mobility 7500. I looked through linux-laptop.net and the
debian-laptop archives. Looks good...
Does anyone have anything to say before I buy it?

Thanks,

David

 



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Dell Inspiron 5100 + Debian Woody : DRI & ACPI won't work

2003-09-02 Thread tvn
It seems to me that DRI  &   ACPI  won't work on this machine w/
Debian Woody.  

For Dri:  I've compiled the latest kernel and tried it with different
XFREE versions, even the unofficial 4.2 debs ... no go. The Radeon that
I d/led from dri.sf.net loaded,  modprobe agpgart , modprobe radeon ,  X
starts fine , only problem is that Dri does not run (from glxinfo)

For Acpi: one of the steps require using Intels iasl tool and this
tool apparently requires GLIB2.3 .  Woody comes with 2.2 


So *if anyone* can get these 2 working on Woody, please let me know -
Thanks in advance.  

PS.  What about Sarge ?  Anyone has success setting up Sarge w/ this
laptop ?   

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sony vaio z505d pcmcia cdrom

2003-09-02 Thread benfoley
the machine: as above, a sony vaio z505d notebook/laptop.

the cdrom: pcga-cd51/a (pcmcia)

the kernel: 2.4.21 (yeah, kernel.org--i prefer to tweak my own. old habits 
die hard.)

the debian flavour: woody

the problem: if i boot with the card inserted, i end up with no keyboard 
functionality. if i insert the card while the machine is running, it freezes 
immediately, whether running X or prior, in either case requiring a hard boot 
to restart.

all clues gratefully considered.

additionally, if anyone has managed to run a parallel zip 100 on the port 
replicator for this arch, pray share the details. 

i've googled and plumbed the archives on both of these issues, to no avail; 
but i'm hoping, nonetheless, that someone out there has been there (here) and 
done that.

TIA, ben


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Re: Compaq Presario 900 can't find hard drive

2003-09-02 Thread Fedor Karpelevitch
On Понедельник 01 Сентябрь 2003 01:06 pm, criggie wrote:
> I've got access to a Compaq Presario 900 through work, an AMD
> Athlon-based machine.
>
> I've got around a couple of problems, I have to boot with ide=nodma
> and nomce according to various web sites.
>
> So I can get right to the start of the installation procedure, but
> both fdisk and cfdisk say "can't open /dev/hda"
>
> The drive is an 18 Gb Fujitsu 2.5" drive on an ALI controller, and
> it is visible in the dmesg output.  However, if I reboot from there
> and let it start the other installed OS then it sais "NO OPERATING
> SYSTEM FOUND"
>
> It seems that something is shutting down/spinning down the IDE
> drive or the controller so that a power off is required to reset
> it.
>
> Anyone got any ideas?

with kernel 2.4.22 you should be all right without any special 
options. Also I recommend that you subscribe to presario900 mail 
list:  http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/linuxpresario900

Fedor


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Re: ASUS L3800CE

2003-09-02 Thread jhorton
David Fokkema wrote:

Hello David et. al,

Anyone who is considering purchasing a "hi-end" laptop should consider 
the features on the Prostart,
It has everything, including DVD RW, USB2.0, a built-in removable MP3 
player(smartdisk storage),
sony memory stick support, BT878 for video in and out, etc, etc. I have 
not gotten everything working
under Debian, but, that is more due to too many other projects.

Physically, the machine is an inch or so thick, and heavier than most 
portables, but, if you want every
widget available, this is the one. Also when I ordered the machine, even 
though I hate Microsoft, it
was nice that they shipped a COMPLETE windows 2k_PRO, as the default 
installation, instead of one
of those partial_birth_abortion CDs that is useless for a variety of 
installation problems and customization
needs, when your clients require to work with MS. I also suspect that 
the BIOS, in not one of those
REDMOND corrupted varieties, although, I do not have direct proof of 
that, yet.

http://www.amazinglaptops.com/prostar-8814specs.htm

James

Hi group,

After much thinking, I decided to buy a new laptop. From the respones to
my question about ATI cards I gathered that I really should buy a laptop
with a Radeon card. I am thinking about buying the ASUS L3800CE with the
ATI Radeon Mobility 7500. I looked through linux-laptop.net and the
debian-laptop archives. Looks good...
Does anyone have anything to say before I buy it?

Thanks,

David

 





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Re: ASUS L3800CE

2003-09-02 Thread Warren Dodge
This one time, at band camp, jhorton said:
(Tuesday 02 September 2003 04:43)

> Anyone who is considering purchasing a "hi-end" laptop should consider
> the features on the Prostart,
> It has everything, including DVD RW, USB2.0, a built-in removable MP3
> player(smartdisk storage),
> sony memory stick support, BT878 for video in and out, etc, etc. I have
> not gotten everything working
> under Debian, but, that is more due to too many other projects.
>
> Physically, the machine is an inch or so thick, and heavier than most
> portables, but, if you want every
> widget available, this is the one. Also when I ordered the machine, even
> though I hate Microsoft, it
> was nice that they shipped a COMPLETE windows 2k_PRO, as the default
> installation, instead of one
> of those partial_birth_abortion CDs that is useless for a variety of
> installation problems and customization
> needs, when your clients require to work with MS. I also suspect that
> the BIOS, in not one of those
> REDMOND corrupted varieties, although, I do not have direct proof of
> that, yet.
>
> http://www.amazinglaptops.com/prostar-8814specs.htm
>
> James
>

Those are very high quality machines, but very large and heavy also (12 pounts 
for the 88xx series!). They're pretty much the ultimate "desktop replacement" 
machines. They're manufactured by Clevo/Kapok and distributed by Sager, 
Prostar, etc. They're sold at http://www.pctorque.com , 
http://www.powernotebooks.com , http://www.discountlaptops.com as well -- 
check around. There's also a nice discussion forum site at 
http://www.talknotebooks.com . 
I'm not affiliated, just also interested in these monsters!

Warren


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Two fixed network cards

2003-09-02 Thread David Z Maze
My laptop has two fixed (e.g., not PCMCIA) network cards, one wired
and one wireless (802.11a/b combo).  Both are set up by default to use
DHCP in /etc/network/interfaces, and right now the wired card comes up
first.  I'd like to not wait to a DHCP timeout if I don't need to.  I
also know the question "is there an Ethernet cable connected" can be
asked, though not how.  Also, I don't want both the wired and wireless
up the vast majority of the time.

So, what I'd like is to have my network startup work something like
this:

  if eth0.have_ethernet_cable():
eth0.ifup()
  if not eth0.has_address():
eth1.ifup()

(So, don't try to bring the wired interface up if there's not a
connection, and don't try to bring the wireless up if we successfully
brought the wired interface up.)

Any hints on how to do this?  (Besides writing ifupdown-python?  :-)

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Re: No fsck in battery mode

2003-09-02 Thread Derek Broughton
From: "Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Derek Broughton wrote:
>
> > From: "Frédéric Bothamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > Except that since it is under /usr, it might not be available at fsck
> > > time (that is, before /usr is mounted in /etc/rcS.d/S30checkfs.sh).
> >
> > Doh!  Of course you're right.  I wonder if it could be copied to /boot
> > and still work?
>
> Sure:
>
> $ ldd /usr/bin/on_ac_power
> not a dynamic executable

That's what I expected, but hadn't checked yet.

> > Matt's solution is good - but it must have the same problem:
> > grep will be available at the same time as on_ac_power!
>
> $ which grep
> /bin/grep
>
> Did you set up with / and /boot on separate partitions?

You betcha :-)  But it's a non-generic situation, anyway.  During
S10checkroot.sh, / is available - but there's no telling how your system is
partitioned.  In my case, /usr (and /usr/bin) are on /.  Obviously, in other
cases /usr isn't.



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Re: Mouse and keyboard problems

2003-09-02 Thread Jan T. Kim
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 01:20:50PM -0500, Charles Blair wrote:
> 
>I installed debian on a Toshiba 1405 laptop approximately a year ago.
> 
>Problem 1: when I am in an xterm window (from gnome?), I often
> get a letter repeated when I press a key.  I read somewhere that
> this can be fixed by changing a "stickykeys" setting, but I would
> like to know exactly what file to edit and what I do there.

I have a Toshiba Satellite 5100 which has a similar problem with
the keyboard -- without any fixup, 1% of the keystrokes are doubled,
but this happens only with the X window system, the consoles are not
affected.

The commands

xkbset exp bo
xkbset bo 1

fix this problem. I have these in the init function in my ~/.fvwm2rc
file, for gnome, I don't know what the right file for putting startup
commands would be.

The xkbset program is not part of the standard X11 packages, but
a debian package exists:

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/x11/xkbset.html

My experience is with a self-compiled xkbset program, though.

>Problem 2:  The touchpad mouse jumps around uncontrollably, and
> won't move at all after a few minutes of use.

This is usually due to having a wrong mouse type specified in
/etx/X11/XF86Config-4. Sometimes, the problem is caused by gpm, when
the /dev/gpmdata device is used by XFree86. In my experience, it's best
not to have gpm translate the mouse protocoll at all (i.e. use the
"raw" protocol).

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Re: No fsck in battery mode

2003-09-02 Thread Jason Kraftcheck
Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote:
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Derek Broughton wrote:


From: "Frédéric Bothamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Except that since it is under /usr, it might not be available at fsck
time (that is, before /usr is mounted in /etc/rcS.d/S30checkfs.sh).
Doh!  Of course you're right.  I wonder if it could be copied to /boot
and still work?


Sure:

$ ldd /usr/bin/on_ac_power
not a dynamic executable
That is the response ldd usually gives for a shell script.  You need to do 
'ldd' for every executable called by the script, and the interpreter (the 
shell) to determine which libraries the script depends on.

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Re: No fsck in battery mode

2003-09-02 Thread Derek Broughton
From: "Jason Kraftcheck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote:
> > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Derek Broughton wrote:
> >
> >
> >>From: "Frédéric Bothamy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>>Except that since it is under /usr, it might not be available at fsck
> >>>time (that is, before /usr is mounted in /etc/rcS.d/S30checkfs.sh).
> >>
> >>Doh!  Of course you're right.  I wonder if it could be copied to /boot
> >>and still work?
> >
> >
> > Sure:
> >
> > $ ldd /usr/bin/on_ac_power
> > not a dynamic executable
>
> That is the response ldd usually gives for a shell script.  You need to do
> 'ldd' for every executable called by the script, and the interpreter (the
> shell) to determine which libraries the script depends on.

I could have sworn that it was an executable last time I looked, but I see it
really is a script. In any case, the problem is the same - grep (and in this
case awk) have to be available.  I guess grep should be there - because we're
already running shell scripts, and both are in /bin - but awk may not be.



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Re: Two fixed network cards

2003-09-02 Thread Dave Thayer
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:39:44AM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
> My laptop has two fixed (e.g., not PCMCIA) network cards, one wired
> and one wireless (802.11a/b combo).  Both are set up by default to use
> DHCP in /etc/network/interfaces, and right now the wired card comes up
> first.  I'd like to not wait to a DHCP timeout if I don't need to.  I
> also know the question "is there an Ethernet cable connected" can be
> asked, though not how.  Also, I don't want both the wired and wireless
> up the vast majority of the time.
> 

Ifplugd (in sid/testing) should do the trick:

Description: A configuration daemon for ethernet devices
 ifplugd is a daemon which will automatically configure your
 ethernet device when a cable is plugged in and automatically
 unconfigure it if the cable is pulled. This is useful on laptops with
 onboard network adapters, since it will only configure the interface
 when a cable is really connected.

HTH

DT

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Re: Two fixed network cards

2003-09-02 Thread David Z Maze
Dave Thayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:39:44AM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
>> My laptop has two fixed (e.g., not PCMCIA) network cards, one wired
>> and one wireless (802.11a/b combo).  Both are set up by default to use
>> DHCP in /etc/network/interfaces, and right now the wired card comes up
>> first.  I'd like to not wait to a DHCP timeout if I don't need to.  I
>> also know the question "is there an Ethernet cable connected" can be
>> asked, though not how.  Also, I don't want both the wired and wireless
>> up the vast majority of the time.
>> 
>
> Ifplugd (in sid/testing) should do the trick:

Aah, that looks like it, thanks.  README.gz says "support for wireless
networking, whenever an AP is detected the network is configured"; I
wonder if that'll work with my sketchy wireless driver.  :-)

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Toshiba T1910CS power problem

2003-09-02 Thread Elizabeth Barham
Hi,

   I'm having a strange problem with my T1910CS laptop in that it is
having difficulty powering on. Symptoms:

1) When the AC Adapter is used, the green DC-IN light is steady,
   which means its okay, but

   +) If the battery is in, or
   +) I try to start it (see 2),

   then the DC-IN light will flash, which means the computer is
   not receiving enough electricty.

2) When I try to turn the computer on it starts for generally the
   briefest amount of time and then goes right back off. After
   this the DC-IN light blinks for sure (although if the battery
   is in it goes off soon after it recognizes the battery).

   The weird thing about this, however, is that if I keep trying
   to start the computer over-and-over again in rapid sucession
   for a rather lengthy period of time (like 10-15 minutes) in
   that I almost instantly hit the power button each time it fails
   to power up, it works. In fact, each time I do the rapid
   re-start power-up method, the computer seems to stay on a bit
   longer each time. Eventually it passes some threshold and
   "catches" and remains on.

   Are these symptoms anyone recognizes? I do not want to keep hitting
"on/off" for 15 minutes to use the laptop!

   Thank you,
   Elizabeth

 T1910 Toshiba Laptop


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Re: Two fixed network cards

2003-09-02 Thread Victor Cain
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:14 pm, David Z Maze wrote:
> Dave Thayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 10:39:44AM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
> >> My laptop has two fixed (e.g., not PCMCIA) network cards, one wired
> >> and one wireless (802.11a/b combo).  Both are set up by default to use
> >> DHCP in /etc/network/interfaces, and right now the wired card comes up
> >> first.  I'd like to not wait to a DHCP timeout if I don't need to.  I
> >> also know the question "is there an Ethernet cable connected" can be
> >> asked, though not how.  Also, I don't want both the wired and wireless
> >> up the vast majority of the time.
> >
> > Ifplugd (in sid/testing) should do the trick:
>
> Aah, that looks like it, thanks.  README.gz says "support for wireless
> networking, whenever an AP is detected the network is configured"; I
> wonder if that'll work with my sketchy wireless driver.  :-)

I tried ifplugd on a ThinkPad A20P that has a fixed, wired, network card and a 
PCMCIA wireless.  It did not configure the wireless card, but ifstatus 
correctly tells me when the wire is unplugged.  Anyway, if you get it 
working, maybe you could let us know what you did.

Cheers,
 
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Re: ASUS L3800CE

2003-09-02 Thread David Fokkema
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 10:09:14AM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
> Hi group,
> 
> After much thinking, I decided to buy a new laptop. From the respones to
> my question about ATI cards I gathered that I really should buy a laptop
> with a Radeon card. I am thinking about buying the ASUS L3800CE with the
> ATI Radeon Mobility 7500. I looked through linux-laptop.net and the
> debian-laptop archives. Looks good...
> 
> Does anyone have anything to say before I buy it?

Hi group,

Thank you all for replying. Unfortunately, the L3800 was out of stock
and they didn't know when (if at all) they would be delivered again. So
I went to another store and ordered a L5800 for about the same price,
;-) It has a Radeon 9000, which, according to a previous thread, is also
well supported by XFree 4.3. Furthermore, it has usb 2.0 instead of 1.1,
etc. There isn't an entry at linux-laptop.net, but looking through the
specs, I suspect it'll work perfectly, except for TV-Out, since the 9000
is not supported by the gatos project. Ati mentions on its website that
it is working on supporting the TV-Out for linux, so I'm optimistic
about that too.

David

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Re: Toshiba T1910CS power problem

2003-09-02 Thread Bill Marcum
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 12:34:04PM -0500, Elizabeth Barham wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>I'm having a strange problem with my T1910CS laptop in that it is
> having difficulty powering on. Symptoms:
> 
> 1) When the AC Adapter is used, the green DC-IN light is steady,
>which means its okay, but
> 
>+) If the battery is in, or
>+) I try to start it (see 2),
> 
>then the DC-IN light will flash, which means the computer is
>not receiving enough electricty.
> 
> 2) When I try to turn the computer on it starts for generally the
>briefest amount of time and then goes right back off. After
>this the DC-IN light blinks for sure (although if the battery
>is in it goes off soon after it recognizes the battery).
> 
It could be that one of the two internal batteries has gone bad.


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Re: Dell Inspiron 5100 + Debian Woody : DRI & ACPI won't work

2003-09-02 Thread Norbert Schulz
Try http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html

There are around 15 setup procedures for Linux on this notbook listed.

Good Luck  !

Norbert


- Original Message -
From: "tvn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:27 AM
Subject: Dell Inspiron 5100 + Debian Woody : DRI & ACPI won't work


> It seems to me that DRI  &   ACPI  won't work on this machine w/
> Debian Woody.
>
> For Dri:  I've compiled the latest kernel and tried it with different
> XFREE versions, even the unofficial 4.2 debs ... no go. The Radeon that
> I d/led from dri.sf.net loaded,  modprobe agpgart , modprobe radeon ,  X
> starts fine , only problem is that Dri does not run (from glxinfo)
>
> For Acpi: one of the steps require using Intels iasl tool and this
> tool apparently requires GLIB2.3 .  Woody comes with 2.2
>
>
> So *if anyone* can get these 2 working on Woody, please let me know -
> Thanks in advance.
>
> PS.  What about Sarge ?  Anyone has success setting up Sarge w/ this
> laptop ?
>
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netenv configuration

2003-09-02 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
I'm trying to work my way through the configuration examples for netenv
with my laptop:
http://netenv.sourceforge.net/netenv-en.html#config
but I'm not sure how to configure my system from these examples.

I currently have two configurations:
AT HOME
- DHCP ethernet (typically wireless)
- CUPS connection to the printer
Config file looks like this:
netenv_id=At_home
export IPADDR=192.168.1.100
export NETWORK=192.168.1.0
export NETMASK=255.255.255.0
export BROADCAST=192.168.1.255
export GATEWAY=192.168.1.1
export PROFILE=default
(This is the default install from when I installed debian, I think. My
router is DHCP, but it seems to have no problems with me picking my own IP
address.)

AWAY
- no ethernet
- no printer
Config file looks like this:
netenv_id=No_Ethernet
# there is not internet/ethernet connection in this mode
STARTMODE=manual

This is what I'm confused about:
- When I'm "at home" netenv is the first thing that loads when I boot 
  my computer--but my wireless card isn't loaded so netenv wastes 
  time trying to find a connection to the internet. What do I need to add to 
the
  configuration to get my wireless card (which is an orinoco card using
  the pcmcia-cs packages) to load so that netenv can find the internet?

- I currently start fetchmail by hand depending on whether or not I
  have an internet connection. I would like to add this variable to the
  netenv config files so that fetchmail starts picking up mail IF I'm "at 
home".
  Right now I'm not using a system-wide fetchmail, just one that's
  configured through my home directory ~/.fetchmailrc (I'm not sure if that 
makes
  sense...).

- When I'm "away" I don't want the CUPS server running. It's not that
  it's a bad thing, I just don't need it. How do I tell netenv not to
  bother starting the CUPS server if I'm "away"? I also don't want 
  fetchmail running if there isn't an internet connection (which is my 
  current default).

Thanks for your suggestions on this configuration problem,
emma :)


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Re: Dell Inspiron 5100 + Debian Woody : DRI & ACPI won't work

2003-09-02 Thread tvn

And I read *all* of them,  also other different models w/ similar
configs.  None uses Woody on this model w/ success with the below 2
problems.  I switched to Sarge yesterday and seems to be able to get it
working, will keep trying though.  Thanks  




On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 22:14:02 +0200
"Norbert Schulz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Try http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html
> 
> There are around 15 setup procedures for Linux on this notbook listed.
> 
> Good Luck  !
> 
> Norbert
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "tvn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:27 AM
> Subject: Dell Inspiron 5100 + Debian Woody : DRI & ACPI won't work
> 
> 
> > It seems to me that DRI  &   ACPI  won't work on this machine w/
> > Debian Woody.
> >
> > For Dri:  I've compiled the latest kernel and tried it with
> > different XFREE versions, even the unofficial 4.2 debs ... no go.
> > The Radeon that I d/led from dri.sf.net loaded,  modprobe agpgart ,
> > modprobe radeon ,  X starts fine , only problem is that Dri does not
> > run (from glxinfo)
> >
> > For Acpi: one of the steps require using Intels iasl tool and this
> > tool apparently requires GLIB2.3 .  Woody comes with 2.2
> >
> >
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Re: Toshiba T1910CS power problem

2003-09-02 Thread Elizabeth Barham
Bill writes:

> It could be that one of the two internal batteries has gone bad.

Hi Bill,

   Thank you for your reply.

   I am aware of one internal battery which I suppose is the CMOS
battery. It is housed in a convenient location for replacement (right
under the keyboard near the hard disk drive) - it is a green battery
that looks like a AA battery and says NI-MH and 4K3 on it.

   But I am unaware of any other internal battery. Do you know where
it may be located and what it may look like?

   Sincerely,
   Elizabeth


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No mouse on games

2003-09-02 Thread tvn
I tried couple games , tuxracer, quake but none of the mouse devices was
recognize.  Anyone experienced similiar situation on laptop ?  

Specs:
Debian Sarge, Dell Inspiron 5100 ,  Ati Radeon 7500 + Dri,  Trackpad +
USB external mouse


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Re: Toshiba T1910CS power problem

2003-09-02 Thread Elizabeth Barham
Elizabeth wrote:

>But I am unaware of any other internal battery. Do you know where
> it may be located and what it may look like?

   It is a silver, disc battery enclosed in a plastic encasing that
presses two leads up tight against the battery. This battery is
located under the top circuit board near the back of the computer. It
connects to the top circuit board via a wire that crosses underneath
the board toward the front of the unit and onto the top with a red and
black cable plugging into a two-lead jumper labeled PJ2.

Markings on the battery proper:

Toshiba, Made in Japan
VG2430 Lithium Battery VG2430 Rechargeable

Red/Black wires are hooked correctly to the battery. It is probably
the RTC battery.

From: 
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:b8GsnngVGNYJ:www.geocities.com/philip3270/1910cs.txt+t1910cs+rtc&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

14   P000184480   NI-MH BATTERY  SUB BATTERY P71007001031
15   P000180060   V-LI BATTERY   RTC BATTERY P71008001016

Part 14 would be what I found earlier and this is 15 (it has a sticker
on it that says "LI").

From: 
http://www.partsolver.com/Product.asp?InventoryID=334659&SubstitutePart=False&ModelManufacturer=Toshiba&ModelNumber=2150CDS

Model Manufacturer:  Toshiba
Model Number:  2150CDS [this is another laptop model -ed]
Name:  3 volt Lithium Rechargeable CMOS battery
Description:  Rechargeable coin cell with wire and connector.

   Anyway, I tried re-starting the computer without this battery but
it is still behaving the same way. On one other computer, a desktop,
removing the dead CMOS battery allowed the machine to boot up as where
with the dead CMOS battery it didn't come on at all.

   Is it possible that the failure of the laptop to boot-up is a
result of having no electricity from one of the two internal batteries
and that by removing the connection I am not making much of a
difference in that the connection was dead anyway? And that by
replacing one or both of the batteries the machine may begin working?

Thank you,
Elizabeth


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