Re: Further power management issues

[mi]

Roberto Sanchez schrieb zu Further power management issues:
> I don't know why this did not occur to me earlier, but here are some
> excerpts from my /var/log/messages file. Could someone please help me make
> some sense from this mess?
>
> -Roberto Sanchez
>
>
> 
> CASE 1:
>
> Feb  1 17:29:27 localhost pppd[465]: primary   DNS address 132.170.240.15
> Feb  1 17:29:27 localhost pppd[465]: secondary DNS address 132.170.249.15
> Feb  1 17:47:49 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 18:07:49 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 18:27:49 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 18:45:29 localhost kernel: unloading PCMCIA Card Services
> Feb  1 18:45:31 localhost kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
> Feb  1 18:45:31 localhost kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating.
> Feb  1 18:45:31 localhost exiting on signal 15
> Feb  1 21:38:00 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#10: restart.
> Feb  1 21:38:00 localhost kernel: klogd 1.4.1#10, log

Looks like  harmless end ( terminating ) and startup entries for two days' 
session  from syslogd, who channels the logs.  Note the date.


> 
> CASE 2:
>
> Feb  1 21:38:30 localhost gconfd (sanchezr-391): Resolved address
> "xml:readwrite:/home/sanchezr/.gconf" to a writable config source at
> position 1
> Feb  1 21:38:30 localhost gconfd (sanchezr-391): Resolved address
> "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only config source
> at position 2
> Feb  1 21:58:00 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 22:18:01 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 22:38:02 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 22:58:02 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 23:00:31 localhost gconfd (sanchezr-391): GConf server is not in
> use, shutting down.
> Feb  1 23:00:31 localhost gconfd (sanchezr-391): Exiting
GConf is GNOME stuff. gconfd is a kind of configuration server daemon.  
Whenever you start a gnome application, even without a gnome session, gconf 
looks if if there's something to do. Here resolving some internal addresses. 
Job's done, so exits. 
Mostly harmless !

> CASE 3:
>
> Feb  1 23:09:24 localhost pppd[436]: Sent 18811 bytes, received 43513
> bytes. Feb  1 23:09:24 localhost pppd[436]: Exit.
> Feb  1 23:09:54 localhost kernel: unloading PCMCIA Card Services
> Feb  1 23:09:55 localhost kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
> Feb  1 23:09:55 localhost kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating.
> Feb  1 23:09:55 localhost exiting on signal 15
> Feb  2 01:47:20 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#10: restart.
> Feb  2 01:47:20 localhost kernel: klogd 1.4.1#10, log source = /proc/kmsg
> started.

see above.
You seem to read the last emails before go to sleep ;-)



> 
> CASE 6:
>
> Feb  2 22:08:46 localhost pppd[980]: Sent 665150 bytes, received 1536583
> bytes. Feb  2 22:08:46 localhost pppd[980]: Exit.
> Feb  2 22:28:09 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  2 22:48:09 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  2 23:08:09 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  2 23:13:52 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#10: restart.
> Feb  2 23:13:52 localhost kernel: klogd 1.4.1#10, log source = /proc/kmsg
> started.

Always the same. 
pppd is your point-to-point-protocol daemon which connects you to your 
provider. It exits when you terminate the connection. Just life ;-)



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keyboard scancodes

[Sebastian Henschel]

hi folks...

i assume, some of you have already encountered the problem with
not-working extra-keys on your laptop.
the numerous tools available work by assigning unassigned
scancodes to keycodes (to characters/starting programs), as it seems to
me. this may be different for tools for specific laptops (like tpctl,
i8kutils), which i do not have access to.

the problem arises, when there is no scancode at all for a specific key,
when the keyboard controller does not send any code to the driver.
you can test this with "showkey -s". and i have seen a couple of laptops
which do not generate a scancode when hitting an extra key.

it seems that the keyboard driver has to send a magic byte string to the
controller for that to work.
so does anyone of you have any experience in this regard? anyone who
actually did or tried this?

tia,
 sebastian
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Re: keyboard scancodes

[Pavel Mihaylov]

Hello,

Check out http://sf.net/projects/omke. We started this as HP
Omnibook-only support but eventually people discovered that many laptops
shared the extra-key enabling scheme. Currently there is support for
various HP Omnibooks, Pavillions, Toshiba Satellites and Compals.

Regards,
Pavel

> hi folks...
> 
> i assume, some of you have already encountered the problem with
> not-working extra-keys on your laptop.
> the numerous tools available work by assigning unassigned
> scancodes to keycodes (to characters/starting programs), as it seems to
> me. this may be different for tools for specific laptops (like tpctl,
> i8kutils), which i do not have access to.
> 
> the problem arises, when there is no scancode at all for a specific key,
> when the keyboard controller does not send any code to the driver.
> you can test this with "showkey -s". and i have seen a couple of laptops
> which do not generate a scancode when hitting an extra key.
> 
> it seems that the keyboard driver has to send a magic byte string to the
> controller for that to work.
> so does anyone of you have any experience in this regard? anyone who
> actually did or tried this?
> 
> tia,
>  sebastian

Re: keyboard scancodes

[Socheat Sou]

What notebook do you have?  I have a Toshiba Satelitte (5205 series),
and all the extra keys on my keyboard are "hotkeys" which are supported
by enabling "Toshiba Laptop Extras" under ACPI support in the kernel
(after applying the ACPI patch).

Socheat

On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 06:14, Sebastian Henschel wrote:
> hi folks...
> 
> i assume, some of you have already encountered the problem with
> not-working extra-keys on your laptop.
> the numerous tools available work by assigning unassigned
> scancodes to keycodes (to characters/starting programs), as it seems to
> me. this may be different for tools for specific laptops (like tpctl,
> i8kutils), which i do not have access to.
> 
> the problem arises, when there is no scancode at all for a specific key,
> when the keyboard controller does not send any code to the driver.
> you can test this with "showkey -s". and i have seen a couple of laptops
> which do not generate a scancode when hitting an extra key.
> 
> it seems that the keyboard driver has to send a magic byte string to the
> controller for that to work.
> so does anyone of you have any experience in this regard? anyone who
> actually did or tried this?
> 
> tia,
>  sebastian

Re: Thinkpad T30 Specs

[Alexandre Beelen]

> > - ATI Mobility Radeon 7500
> 
> Sure, with a 4.2 series XFree86, or with the VESA driver.
> 
> DRI has always caused lockups within two days for me, so I don't enable
> it, and my system is stable. (A31p, but similar hardware.)

I never had such problem since APM suspend to disk crash my laptop
before it !
 
> > - SoundCard: SoundMAX ?? (what's this exactly?)
> 
> Probably a stock Intel on-chip sound thingy, with yet another brand name
> attached.

AlSA support it perfectly (OSS) and ESD work great since a few days
(sid)
 
> > - ACPI
> 
> Yes, but YMMV.

Could you expand this ?
 
> > - IBM ThinkNav for mouse navigations
> 
> Yes.

You mean the trackpoint ?

 
> > 4. Does IBM Fn keys works with Linux (I know that with Toshiba it work
> > if toshiba kernel support enabled, and with Dell Latitude it also work
> > without enabling anything)
> 
> Suspend to disk fails for me, but the other function keys and the volume
> control keys all work. Also, the extended "Internet" keys work fine as
> normal keys.

Under X ? what keyboard layout do you use in your XF86Config file ?

keyboard info

[jaghfg]

I don't know how to find out what the keys on the top of my computer are 
for, they are small keys and they all begin with 'F', where in the world 
can I find a simple instruction to tell me how to use these keys?   All 
i need to know is where to find the degrees key and when I find out that 
I know I will find out many other things.  J.G.

Re: Further power management issues

[Roberto Sanchez]

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Roberto Sanchez schrieb zu Further power management issues:
> I don't know why this did not occur to me earlier, but here are some
> excerpts from my /var/log/messages file. Could someone please help me 
make

> some sense from this mess?
>
> -Roberto Sanchez
>
>
> 
> CASE 1:
>
> Feb  1 17:29:27 localhost pppd[465]: primary   DNS address 
132.170.240.15
> Feb  1 17:29:27 localhost pppd[465]: secondary DNS address 
132.170.249.15

> Feb  1 17:47:49 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 18:07:49 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 18:27:49 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 18:45:29 localhost kernel: unloading PCMCIA Card Services
> Feb  1 18:45:31 localhost kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
> Feb  1 18:45:31 localhost kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating.
> Feb  1 18:45:31 localhost exiting on signal 15
> Feb  1 21:38:00 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#10: restart.
> Feb  1 21:38:00 localhost kernel: klogd 1.4.1#10, log

Looks like  harmless end ( terminating ) and startup entries for two days'
session  from syslogd, who channels the logs.  Note the date.


> 
> CASE 2:
>
> Feb  1 21:38:30 localhost gconfd (sanchezr-391): Resolved address
> "xml:readwrite:/home/sanchezr/.gconf" to a writable config source at
> position 1
> Feb  1 21:38:30 localhost gconfd (sanchezr-391): Resolved address
> "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only config 
source

> at position 2
> Feb  1 21:58:00 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 22:18:01 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 22:38:02 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 22:58:02 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 23:00:31 localhost gconfd (sanchezr-391): GConf server is not in
> use, shutting down.
> Feb  1 23:00:31 localhost gconfd (sanchezr-391): Exiting
GConf is GNOME stuff. gconfd is a kind of configuration server daemon.
Whenever you start a gnome application, even without a gnome session, gconf
looks if if there's something to do. Here resolving some internal 
addresses.

Job's done, so exits.
Mostly harmless !

> CASE 3:
>
> Feb  1 23:09:24 localhost pppd[436]: Sent 18811 bytes, received 43513
> bytes. Feb  1 23:09:24 localhost pppd[436]: Exit.
> Feb  1 23:09:54 localhost kernel: unloading PCMCIA Card Services
> Feb  1 23:09:55 localhost kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
> Feb  1 23:09:55 localhost kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating.
> Feb  1 23:09:55 localhost exiting on signal 15
> Feb  2 01:47:20 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#10: restart.
> Feb  2 01:47:20 localhost kernel: klogd 1.4.1#10, log source = 
/proc/kmsg

> started.

see above.
You seem to read the last emails before go to sleep ;-)



> 
> CASE 6:
>
> Feb  2 22:08:46 localhost pppd[980]: Sent 665150 bytes, received 1536583
> bytes. Feb  2 22:08:46 localhost pppd[980]: Exit.
> Feb  2 22:28:09 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  2 22:48:09 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  2 23:08:09 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  2 23:13:52 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#10: restart.
> Feb  2 23:13:52 localhost kernel: klogd 1.4.1#10, log source = 
/proc/kmsg

> started.

Always the same.
pppd is your point-to-point-protocol daemon which connects you to your
provider. It exits when you terminate the connection. Just life ;-)



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Re: XF86Config-4 on TP 760EL

[David Woyciesjes]

Nate Bargmann wrote:
> 
> * David Woyciesjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003 Feb 03 13:51 -0600]:
> > Nate Bargmann wrote:
> 
> > > The ED runs XFree 4.2.x flawlessly, but you'll have no sound support.
> 
> >   Hmmm. Well, sounds does work on the EL, I can hear something playing
> > when I blindly login to X...
> 
> I supppose I was less than clear in explaining the trade-offs between
> the 760ED and the 760EL.  With the EL you will be limited to
> 800x600x8bpp (perhaps XFree 4.2.x can make 16bpp work, but I don't
> know) and sound works well.  Meanwhile the 760ED will give you
> 1024x768x16bpp, but no sound as the MWave DSP is not supported in Linux.

Okay. Well, it can do 16nit color at 800x600 in Windows... Well, let's
see if I can get it to work at all, even 640x480 at least...

> >   I assume the XF86COnfig and XF86Config-4 files have tghe same layout,
> > right? I got a XF86Config file, that works on an EL (running RH 7.1). So
> > I'll use thatas a starting point...
> 
> That depends...  Debian added the -4 suffix to allow an 3.x and a 4.x
> configuration to co-exist.  However, a file written for 3.x is not of
> a compatible format for 4.x and vice versa.  4.x in Debian will work
> with a version 4 formatted file named XF86Config or XF86Config-4.
> 
> - Nate >>
> 
> --

Hmmm, okay. Well, I can use the existing XF86Config-4 as a template,
and fill in the info from the 'working XF86Config (3.x). Hopefully that
will do the trick...
If all else fails, I guess I'm going back to 3.3.6, eh? IIRC< I can
pick that up through apt-get, right?

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Re: keyboard scancodes

[Sebastian Henschel]

hi..

Received at 2003-02-04 / 15:50 by Socheat Sou:
> What notebook do you have?  I have a Toshiba Satelitte (5205 series),
> and all the extra keys on my keyboard are "hotkeys" which are supported
> by enabling "Toshiba Laptop Extras" under ACPI support in the kernel
> (after applying the ACPI patch).

toshiba satellite 3000-601 (but i noticed not-working extra-keys with an
asus l3800c as well). i cannot load the module "toshiba_acpi" on my
machine. well, according to http://www.buzzard.org.uk/toshiba/, the 3000
series is weird, anyway.

cheers,
 sebastian

> On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 06:14, Sebastian Henschel wrote:
> > 
> > the problem arises, when there is no scancode at all for a specific key,
> > when the keyboard controller does not send any code to the driver.
> > you can test this with "showkey -s". and i have seen a couple of laptops
> > which do not generate a scancode when hitting an extra key.
> > 
> > it seems that the keyboard driver has to send a magic byte string to the
> > controller for that to work.
> > so does anyone of you have any experience in this regard? anyone who
> > actually did or tried this?

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Re: keyboard info

[Sebastian Henschel]

hello..

Received at 2003-02-04 / 15:50 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I don't know how to find out what the keys on the top of my computer are 
> for, they are small keys and they all begin with 'F', where in the world 
> can I find a simple instruction to tell me how to use these keys?   All 
> i need to know is where to find the degrees key and when I find out that 
> I know I will find out many other things.  J.G.

i do not know, if that is simple, but check

- keyboard and console howto:
  
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.html

- mobile guide from mobilix:
  http://www.mobilix.org/Mobile-Guide.db/mobile-guide-p2c1s6-keyboard.html


cheers,
 sebastian
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Re: XF86Config-4 on TP 760EL

[Nate Bargmann]

* David Woyciesjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003 Feb 04 09:36 -0600]:
>   Hmmm, okay. Well, I can use the existing XF86Config-4 as a template,
> and fill in the info from the 'working XF86Config (3.x). Hopefully that
> will do the trick...

I'd like to know which version of Windows?  The version the machine I
played with had 3.1 installed and that only supported 256 colors (8bpp).

>   If all else fails, I guess I'm going back to 3.3.6, eh? IIRC< I can
> pick that up through apt-get, right?

Sure.  Look for the xserver-svga package.

- Nate >>

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Re: keyboard scancodes

[Sebastian Henschel]

rehi..

Received at 2003-02-04 / 13:37 by Pavel Mihaylov:
> 
> Check out http://sf.net/projects/omke. We started this as HP
> Omnibook-only support but eventually people discovered that many laptops
> shared the extra-key enabling scheme. Currently there is support for
> various HP Omnibooks, Pavillions, Toshiba Satellites and Compals.

wooo... i am amazed.

it seems to work on my satellite. the keys are all recognized now.

it does not work on the asus l3800c, though. unfortunately, i cannot
investigate any further, because i have to give it back today.


thanx a lot,
 sebastian

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Re: Further power management issues

[mi]

Roberto Sanchez schrieb zu Re: Further power management issues:
> As far as the log messages, since they do not provide a clue as to what is
> causing the no-notice shutdowns, how do I find the cause?  This really has
> me bugged.  I mean I can't even run my mahine under Linux 24/7 anymore
> .  What kind of use is any sort of *nix OS if you can't
> leave it running all the time? :-)
>
> I know about the GNOME and pppd functions, but what really has me baffled
> is CASE 1.  I left the machine idle at 5:30pm.  What could have caused the
> shutdown messages only 75 minutes later?
>
> -Roberto Sanchez

Seems to be approx. 1 h idletime every case. Two ideas:
1) Does it switch then to suspend to Disk ( Hibernation, BIOS Settings ) ) ? 
2) Kind of network-shutdown ? Is it a laptop at all ?



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Re: keyboard scancodes

[Al Stone]

You may want to try http://omke.sf.net.  The project
there is attempting to handle these strangenesses.

Sebastian Henschel wrote:

hi folks...

i assume, some of you have already encountered the problem with
not-working extra-keys on your laptop.
the numerous tools available work by assigning unassigned
scancodes to keycodes (to characters/starting programs), as it seems to
me. this may be different for tools for specific laptops (like tpctl,
i8kutils), which i do not have access to.

the problem arises, when there is no scancode at all for a specific key,
when the keyboard controller does not send any code to the driver.
you can test this with "showkey -s". and i have seen a couple of laptops
which do not generate a scancode when hitting an extra key.

it seems that the keyboard driver has to send a magic byte string to the
controller for that to work.
so does anyone of you have any experience in this regard? anyone who
actually did or tried this?

tia,
 sebastian


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Re: Further power management issues

[Matej Cepl]

Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> The hotmail thing can't really be helped.  I've had the address
> for almost 8 years now and now only use it for mailing list
> subscriptions (mostly because of the amount of SPAM I receive).
> I now have a new address that I only give out to colleagues,
> friends and family.

1) Please, delete the previous conversation from your reply,
2) There may be way, how to make your hotmail account working
   again -- combination of gotmail and bogofilter/spamassasin may
   make it usefull again (OTOH, why bother with hotmail account
   :-).

Have a nice day,

   Matej

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Black screen after install boot

[badmadleo]

Hello community

I want to install debian on my laptop from cd. The boot-prombt appears, but
when I press "return", the screen becomes black. What can I do?

Please help me

Dell Inspiron 2650c - current version with PCTel modem

[Phil Reynolds]

Will the modem on the current version of the Dell Inspiron 2650c (it's a
PCTel) work in Linux?

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Re: Further power management issues

[Roberto Sanchez]

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Roberto Sanchez schrieb zu Re: Further power management issues:
> As far as the log messages, since they do not provide a clue as to what 
is
> causing the no-notice shutdowns, how do I find the cause?  This really 
has

> me bugged.  I mean I can't even run my mahine under Linux 24/7 anymore
> .  What kind of use is any sort of *nix OS if you 
can't

> leave it running all the time? :-)
>
> I know about the GNOME and pppd functions, but what really has me 
baffled
> is CASE 1.  I left the machine idle at 5:30pm.  What could have caused 
the

> shutdown messages only 75 minutes later?
>
> -Roberto Sanchez

Seems to be approx. 1 h idletime every case. Two ideas:
1) Does it switch then to suspend to Disk ( Hibernation, BIOS Settings ) ) 
?

2) Kind of network-shutdown ? Is it a laptop at all ?



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Yes it is a laptop.  However, I have checked and rechecked the BIOS settings 
several times and I am not set to suspend to disk or anything like that.


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Re: Black screen after install boot

[François TOURDE]

"badmadleo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello community
> 
> I want to install debian on my laptop from cd. The boot-prombt appears, but
> when I press "return", the screen becomes black. What can I do?

Perhaps sending more info will be a good idea ?

0) What kind of laptop ?
1) Did your CD spinning ?
2) "Black" is really black, or did you have a cursor ?
3) whatever can be usefull for us ...

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Re: Dell Inspiron 2650c - current version with PCTel modem

[François TOURDE]

Phil Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Will the modem on the current version of the Dell Inspiron 2650c (it's a
> PCTel) work in Linux?

Look at http://pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net/display.php

Try to send us "lspci -v" and "cat /proc/pci" ...

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Anyone have any experience with ASL?

[Roberto Sanchez]

I am considering purchasing a laptop from ASL (www.aslab.com).  I was 
wondering if anyone out there has any firsthand experience with them.  I.e., 
how is their customer service, product quality, etc.  So far, from what I 
have seen of their website and from corresponding with a couple of sales 
people and techs I'm pretty happy.  But, I would like someone else's 
perspective.


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Re: keyboard scancodes

[jpcl]

> it does not work on the asus l3800c, though. unfortunately, i cannot
> investigate any further, because i have to give it back today.

Hey! I have one of those! Have you had some key working with that patch,
that would motivate further tries? Or it's completely useless?
Thanks

RE:TEAC CD-W216E on COMPAQ ARMADA 1750 LAPTOP

[Beatlebabs1]

hi...
i know very little about laptops..(that out the way)
need help..
have a toshiba 24 speed cdrom drive (not cdrw) in above laptop and am trying to replace with TEAC CD-W216E (CDRW) DRIVE.
fits perfectly...same connnections ..
when bootup, syestem reports error "incorrect media type"..does not go any further..
if i remove harddrive then teac drive works fine as a cdrom(don't know about write at this stage)
cannot find any drivers or uttlities for this device ..
seems to be that harddrive and teac cdrw are both running as master on primary controller and neither have any jumpers.
need to place cdrw (i think) onto secondary controller as master but how?
any help would be greatly appreciated 
best regards.trev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

keyboard scancodes

[Sebastian Henschel]

hi folks...

i assume, some of you have already encountered the problem with
not-working extra-keys on your laptop.
the numerous tools available work by assigning unassigned
scancodes to keycodes (to characters/starting programs), as it seems to
me. this may be different for tools for specific laptops (like tpctl,
i8kutils), which i do not have access to.

the problem arises, when there is no scancode at all for a specific key,
when the keyboard controller does not send any code to the driver.
you can test this with "showkey -s". and i have seen a couple of laptops
which do not generate a scancode when hitting an extra key.

it seems that the keyboard driver has to send a magic byte string to the
controller for that to work.
so does anyone of you have any experience in this regard? anyone who
actually did or tried this?

tia,
 sebastian
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Re: keyboard scancodes

[Pavel Mihaylov]

Hello,

Check out http://sf.net/projects/omke. We started this as HP
Omnibook-only support but eventually people discovered that many laptops
shared the extra-key enabling scheme. Currently there is support for
various HP Omnibooks, Pavillions, Toshiba Satellites and Compals.

Regards,
Pavel

> hi folks...
> 
> i assume, some of you have already encountered the problem with
> not-working extra-keys on your laptop.
> the numerous tools available work by assigning unassigned
> scancodes to keycodes (to characters/starting programs), as it seems to
> me. this may be different for tools for specific laptops (like tpctl,
> i8kutils), which i do not have access to.
> 
> the problem arises, when there is no scancode at all for a specific key,
> when the keyboard controller does not send any code to the driver.
> you can test this with "showkey -s". and i have seen a couple of laptops
> which do not generate a scancode when hitting an extra key.
> 
> it seems that the keyboard driver has to send a magic byte string to the
> controller for that to work.
> so does anyone of you have any experience in this regard? anyone who
> actually did or tried this?
> 
> tia,
>  sebastian


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Re: keyboard scancodes

[Socheat Sou]

What notebook do you have?  I have a Toshiba Satelitte (5205 series),
and all the extra keys on my keyboard are "hotkeys" which are supported
by enabling "Toshiba Laptop Extras" under ACPI support in the kernel
(after applying the ACPI patch).

Socheat

On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 06:14, Sebastian Henschel wrote:
> hi folks...
> 
> i assume, some of you have already encountered the problem with
> not-working extra-keys on your laptop.
> the numerous tools available work by assigning unassigned
> scancodes to keycodes (to characters/starting programs), as it seems to
> me. this may be different for tools for specific laptops (like tpctl,
> i8kutils), which i do not have access to.
> 
> the problem arises, when there is no scancode at all for a specific key,
> when the keyboard controller does not send any code to the driver.
> you can test this with "showkey -s". and i have seen a couple of laptops
> which do not generate a scancode when hitting an extra key.
> 
> it seems that the keyboard driver has to send a magic byte string to the
> controller for that to work.
> so does anyone of you have any experience in this regard? anyone who
> actually did or tried this?
> 
> tia,
>  sebastian


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Re: Thinkpad T30 Specs

[Alexandre Beelen]

> > - ATI Mobility Radeon 7500
> 
> Sure, with a 4.2 series XFree86, or with the VESA driver.
> 
> DRI has always caused lockups within two days for me, so I don't enable
> it, and my system is stable. (A31p, but similar hardware.)

I never had such problem since APM suspend to disk crash my laptop
before it !
 
> > - SoundCard: SoundMAX ?? (what's this exactly?)
> 
> Probably a stock Intel on-chip sound thingy, with yet another brand name
> attached.

AlSA support it perfectly (OSS) and ESD work great since a few days
(sid)
 
> > - ACPI
> 
> Yes, but YMMV.

Could you expand this ?
 
> > - IBM ThinkNav for mouse navigations
> 
> Yes.

You mean the trackpoint ?

 
> > 4. Does IBM Fn keys works with Linux (I know that with Toshiba it work
> > if toshiba kernel support enabled, and with Dell Latitude it also work
> > without enabling anything)
> 
> Suspend to disk fails for me, but the other function keys and the volume
> control keys all work. Also, the extended "Internet" keys work fine as
> normal keys.

Under X ? what keyboard layout do you use in your XF86Config file ?


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keyboard info

[jaghfg]

I don't know how to find out what the keys on the top of my computer are 
for, they are small keys and they all begin with 'F', where in the world 
can I find a simple instruction to tell me how to use these keys?   All 
i need to know is where to find the degrees key and when I find out that 
I know I will find out many other things.  J.G.


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Re: Further power management issues

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Roberto Sanchez schrieb zu Further power management issues:
> I don't know why this did not occur to me earlier, but here are some
> excerpts from my /var/log/messages file. Could someone please help me 
make
> some sense from this mess?
>
> -Roberto Sanchez
>
>
> 
> CASE 1:
>
> Feb  1 17:29:27 localhost pppd[465]: primary   DNS address 
132.170.240.15
> Feb  1 17:29:27 localhost pppd[465]: secondary DNS address 
132.170.249.15
> Feb  1 17:47:49 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 18:07:49 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 18:27:49 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 18:45:29 localhost kernel: unloading PCMCIA Card Services
> Feb  1 18:45:31 localhost kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
> Feb  1 18:45:31 localhost kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating.
> Feb  1 18:45:31 localhost exiting on signal 15
> Feb  1 21:38:00 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#10: restart.
> Feb  1 21:38:00 localhost kernel: klogd 1.4.1#10, log

Looks like  harmless end ( terminating ) and startup entries for two days'
session  from syslogd, who channels the logs.  Note the date.


> 
> CASE 2:
>
> Feb  1 21:38:30 localhost gconfd (sanchezr-391): Resolved address
> "xml:readwrite:/home/sanchezr/.gconf" to a writable config source at
> position 1
> Feb  1 21:38:30 localhost gconfd (sanchezr-391): Resolved address
> "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only config 
source
> at position 2
> Feb  1 21:58:00 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 22:18:01 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 22:38:02 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 22:58:02 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  1 23:00:31 localhost gconfd (sanchezr-391): GConf server is not in
> use, shutting down.
> Feb  1 23:00:31 localhost gconfd (sanchezr-391): Exiting
GConf is GNOME stuff. gconfd is a kind of configuration server daemon.
Whenever you start a gnome application, even without a gnome session, gconf
looks if if there's something to do. Here resolving some internal 
addresses.
Job's done, so exits.
Mostly harmless !

> CASE 3:
>
> Feb  1 23:09:24 localhost pppd[436]: Sent 18811 bytes, received 43513
> bytes. Feb  1 23:09:24 localhost pppd[436]: Exit.
> Feb  1 23:09:54 localhost kernel: unloading PCMCIA Card Services
> Feb  1 23:09:55 localhost kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
> Feb  1 23:09:55 localhost kernel: Kernel log daemon terminating.
> Feb  1 23:09:55 localhost exiting on signal 15
> Feb  2 01:47:20 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#10: restart.
> Feb  2 01:47:20 localhost kernel: klogd 1.4.1#10, log source = 
/proc/kmsg
> started.

see above.
You seem to read the last emails before go to sleep ;-)



> 
> CASE 6:
>
> Feb  2 22:08:46 localhost pppd[980]: Sent 665150 bytes, received 1536583
> bytes. Feb  2 22:08:46 localhost pppd[980]: Exit.
> Feb  2 22:28:09 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  2 22:48:09 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  2 23:08:09 localhost -- MARK --
> Feb  2 23:13:52 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#10: restart.
> Feb  2 23:13:52 localhost kernel: klogd 1.4.1#10, log source = 
/proc/kmsg
> started.

Always the same.
pppd is your point-to-point-protocol daemon which connects you to your
provider. It exits when you terminate the connection. Just life ;-)



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Re: XF86Config-4 on TP 760EL

[David Woyciesjes]

Nate Bargmann wrote:
> 
> * David Woyciesjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003 Feb 03 13:51 -0600]:
> > Nate Bargmann wrote:
> 
> > > The ED runs XFree 4.2.x flawlessly, but you'll have no sound support.
> 
> >   Hmmm. Well, sounds does work on the EL, I can hear something playing
> > when I blindly login to X...
> 
> I supppose I was less than clear in explaining the trade-offs between
> the 760ED and the 760EL.  With the EL you will be limited to
> 800x600x8bpp (perhaps XFree 4.2.x can make 16bpp work, but I don't
> know) and sound works well.  Meanwhile the 760ED will give you
> 1024x768x16bpp, but no sound as the MWave DSP is not supported in Linux.

Okay. Well, it can do 16nit color at 800x600 in Windows... Well, let's
see if I can get it to work at all, even 640x480 at least...

> >   I assume the XF86COnfig and XF86Config-4 files have tghe same layout,
> > right? I got a XF86Config file, that works on an EL (running RH 7.1). So
> > I'll use thatas a starting point...
> 
> That depends...  Debian added the -4 suffix to allow an 3.x and a 4.x
> configuration to co-exist.  However, a file written for 3.x is not of
> a compatible format for 4.x and vice versa.  4.x in Debian will work
> with a version 4 formatted file named XF86Config or XF86Config-4.
> 
> - Nate >>
> 
> --

Hmmm, okay. Well, I can use the existing XF86Config-4 as a template,
and fill in the info from the 'working XF86Config (3.x). Hopefully that
will do the trick...
If all else fails, I guess I'm going back to 3.3.6, eh? IIRC< I can
pick that up through apt-get, right?

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Re: keyboard scancodes

[Sebastian Henschel]

hi..

Received at 2003-02-04 / 15:50 by Socheat Sou:
> What notebook do you have?  I have a Toshiba Satelitte (5205 series),
> and all the extra keys on my keyboard are "hotkeys" which are supported
> by enabling "Toshiba Laptop Extras" under ACPI support in the kernel
> (after applying the ACPI patch).

toshiba satellite 3000-601 (but i noticed not-working extra-keys with an
asus l3800c as well). i cannot load the module "toshiba_acpi" on my
machine. well, according to http://www.buzzard.org.uk/toshiba/, the 3000
series is weird, anyway.

cheers,
 sebastian

> On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 06:14, Sebastian Henschel wrote:
> > 
> > the problem arises, when there is no scancode at all for a specific key,
> > when the keyboard controller does not send any code to the driver.
> > you can test this with "showkey -s". and i have seen a couple of laptops
> > which do not generate a scancode when hitting an extra key.
> > 
> > it seems that the keyboard driver has to send a magic byte string to the
> > controller for that to work.
> > so does anyone of you have any experience in this regard? anyone who
> > actually did or tried this?

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Re: keyboard info

[Sebastian Henschel]

hello..

Received at 2003-02-04 / 15:50 by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> I don't know how to find out what the keys on the top of my computer are 
> for, they are small keys and they all begin with 'F', where in the world 
> can I find a simple instruction to tell me how to use these keys?   All 
> i need to know is where to find the degrees key and when I find out that 
> I know I will find out many other things.  J.G.

i do not know, if that is simple, but check

- keyboard and console howto:
  
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.html

- mobile guide from mobilix:
  http://www.mobilix.org/Mobile-Guide.db/mobile-guide-p2c1s6-keyboard.html


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Re: XF86Config-4 on TP 760EL

[Nate Bargmann]

* David Woyciesjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003 Feb 04 09:36 -0600]:
>   Hmmm, okay. Well, I can use the existing XF86Config-4 as a template,
> and fill in the info from the 'working XF86Config (3.x). Hopefully that
> will do the trick...

I'd like to know which version of Windows?  The version the machine I
played with had 3.1 installed and that only supported 256 colors (8bpp).

>   If all else fails, I guess I'm going back to 3.3.6, eh? IIRC< I can
> pick that up through apt-get, right?

Sure.  Look for the xserver-svga package.

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Re: keyboard scancodes

[Sebastian Henschel]

rehi..

Received at 2003-02-04 / 13:37 by Pavel Mihaylov:
> 
> Check out http://sf.net/projects/omke. We started this as HP
> Omnibook-only support but eventually people discovered that many laptops
> shared the extra-key enabling scheme. Currently there is support for
> various HP Omnibooks, Pavillions, Toshiba Satellites and Compals.

wooo... i am amazed.

it seems to work on my satellite. the keys are all recognized now.

it does not work on the asus l3800c, though. unfortunately, i cannot
investigate any further, because i have to give it back today.


thanx a lot,
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Re: Further power management issues

[mi]

Roberto Sanchez schrieb zu Re: Further power management issues:
> As far as the log messages, since they do not provide a clue as to what is
> causing the no-notice shutdowns, how do I find the cause?  This really has
> me bugged.  I mean I can't even run my mahine under Linux 24/7 anymore
> .  What kind of use is any sort of *nix OS if you can't
> leave it running all the time? :-)
>
> I know about the GNOME and pppd functions, but what really has me baffled
> is CASE 1.  I left the machine idle at 5:30pm.  What could have caused the
> shutdown messages only 75 minutes later?
>
> -Roberto Sanchez

Seems to be approx. 1 h idletime every case. Two ideas:
1) Does it switch then to suspend to Disk ( Hibernation, BIOS Settings ) ) ? 
2) Kind of network-shutdown ? Is it a laptop at all ?



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Re: keyboard scancodes

[Al Stone]

You may want to try http://omke.sf.net.  The project
there is attempting to handle these strangenesses.

Sebastian Henschel wrote:

hi folks...

i assume, some of you have already encountered the problem with
not-working extra-keys on your laptop.
the numerous tools available work by assigning unassigned
scancodes to keycodes (to characters/starting programs), as it seems to
me. this may be different for tools for specific laptops (like tpctl,
i8kutils), which i do not have access to.

the problem arises, when there is no scancode at all for a specific key,
when the keyboard controller does not send any code to the driver.
you can test this with "showkey -s". and i have seen a couple of laptops
which do not generate a scancode when hitting an extra key.

it seems that the keyboard driver has to send a magic byte string to the
controller for that to work.
so does anyone of you have any experience in this regard? anyone who
actually did or tried this?

tia,
 sebastian


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Re: Further power management issues

[Matej Cepl]

Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> The hotmail thing can't really be helped.  I've had the address
> for almost 8 years now and now only use it for mailing list
> subscriptions (mostly because of the amount of SPAM I receive).
> I now have a new address that I only give out to colleagues,
> friends and family.

1) Please, delete the previous conversation from your reply,
2) There may be way, how to make your hotmail account working
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Black screen after install boot

[badmadleo]

Hello community

I want to install debian on my laptop from cd. The boot-prombt appears, but
when I press "return", the screen becomes black. What can I do?

Please help me


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Dell Inspiron 2650c - current version with PCTel modem

[Phil Reynolds]

Will the modem on the current version of the Dell Inspiron 2650c (it's a
PCTel) work in Linux?

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Re: Further power management issues

[Roberto Sanchez]

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Roberto Sanchez schrieb zu Re: Further power management issues:
> As far as the log messages, since they do not provide a clue as to what 
is
> causing the no-notice shutdowns, how do I find the cause?  This really 
has
> me bugged.  I mean I can't even run my mahine under Linux 24/7 anymore
> .  What kind of use is any sort of *nix OS if you 
can't
> leave it running all the time? :-)
>
> I know about the GNOME and pppd functions, but what really has me 
baffled
> is CASE 1.  I left the machine idle at 5:30pm.  What could have caused 
the
> shutdown messages only 75 minutes later?
>
> -Roberto Sanchez

Seems to be approx. 1 h idletime every case. Two ideas:
1) Does it switch then to suspend to Disk ( Hibernation, BIOS Settings ) ) 
?
2) Kind of network-shutdown ? Is it a laptop at all ?



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Yes it is a laptop.  However, I have checked and rechecked the BIOS settings 
several times and I am not set to suspend to disk or anything like that.

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Re: Black screen after install boot

[François TOURDE]

"badmadleo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello community
> 
> I want to install debian on my laptop from cd. The boot-prombt appears, but
> when I press "return", the screen becomes black. What can I do?

Perhaps sending more info will be a good idea ?

0) What kind of laptop ?
1) Did your CD spinning ?
2) "Black" is really black, or did you have a cursor ?
3) whatever can be usefull for us ...

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Re: Dell Inspiron 2650c - current version with PCTel modem

[François TOURDE]

Phil Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Will the modem on the current version of the Dell Inspiron 2650c (it's a
> PCTel) work in Linux?

Look at http://pctelcompdb.sourceforge.net/display.php

Try to send us "lspci -v" and "cat /proc/pci" ...

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Re: keyboard scancodes

[jpcl]

> it does not work on the asus l3800c, though. unfortunately, i cannot
> investigate any further, because i have to give it back today.

Hey! I have one of those! Have you had some key working with that patch,
that would motivate further tries? Or it's completely useless?
Thanks



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RE:TEAC CD-W216E on COMPAQ ARMADA 1750 LAPTOP

[Beatlebabs1]

hi...
i know very little about laptops..(that out the way)
need help..
have a toshiba 24 speed cdrom drive (not cdrw) in above laptop and am trying to replace with TEAC CD-W216E (CDRW) DRIVE.
fits perfectly...same connnections ..
when bootup, syestem reports error "incorrect media type"..does not go any further..
if i remove harddrive then teac drive works fine as a cdrom(don't know about write at this stage)
cannot find any drivers or uttlities for this device ..
seems to be that harddrive and teac cdrw are both running as master on primary controller and neither have any jumpers.
need to place cdrw (i think) onto secondary controller as master but how?
any help would be greatly appreciated 
best regards.trev ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Anyone have any experience with ASL?

[Roberto Sanchez]

I am considering purchasing a laptop from ASL (www.aslab.com).  I was 
wondering if anyone out there has any firsthand experience with them.  I.e., 
how is their customer service, product quality, etc.  So far, from what I 
have seen of their website and from corresponding with a couple of sales 
people and techs I'm pretty happy.  But, I would like someone else's 
perspective.

-Roberto Sanchez

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