Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Mariano Kamp
Bonjour Thomas,

 yes, that seems to be part of the solution. I have been using the ACPI
patch already, but now I also compiled the oss driver and have been a
bit more successful than before.

  So the current situation is:

* Modules are not loaded automatically
* but when loaded by hand 
* xmms does work and outputs that it used OSS
* kde sound does not work (when logging in it complains about
  /dev/dsp permision denied)
* gnome is quiet too

  What should I do next?

  What about alsa? I read that alsa is now the way to go, but oss. I
didn't find a alsa howto nor a package below /usr/doc. Where should I
look?

Cheers,
Mariano

On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 13:50, Thomas Girard wrote:
> I had exactly the same problem, on the same machine.
> First of all, you should try OSS module i810_audio. If you card remains 
> mute, or produces strange sounds as it did for me, you'll have to follow 
> these steps:
> Update ACPI on your kernel. The reason why the sound card was not 
> correctly working before is related to a IRQ sharing issue solved 
> recently in the ACPI subsystem.
> the sound works perfectly with the OSS driver Intel ICH (i8xx) module 
> named i810_audio. So you have to:
> 1. Patch your kernel with the latest version of ACPI, available from 
> http://acpi.sourceforge.net
> 2. Compile a new kernel with ACPI enabled (I include it in the kernel, 
> not as a module), and choose in the sound config:
>  Sound card support
> ...
>  Intel ICH (i8xx)
> ...
>  OSS Sound modules
> 3. Use the new kernel.
> 
> I can provide my .config, if it helps,
> 
> Thomas
> 
> Mariano Kamp wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> >   lspci -vv gives the following output:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
> > (rev 02)
> > Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
> > Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
> > ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> > Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> > SERR-  > Latency: 0
> > Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
> > Region 0: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
> > Region 1: I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]
> > 
> >   I don't find a Kernel Module with a similar name?! What do I need to
> > look for? Would the discovery of the right module be everything needed
> > to get the sound up and running on woody or do I need anything else?
> > 
> >   Just in case that is interesting?!hamlet:/home/mkamp# lsmod
> > Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
> > bsd_comp3968   0  (autoclean)
> > ppp_async   5984   1  (autoclean)
> > ppp_generic14088   3  (autoclean) [bsd_comp ppp_async]
> > slhc4352   0  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
> > eepro100   16976   1 
> > ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)
> > usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
> > usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
> > rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)
> > 
> > 
> > Mariano
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Mariano Kamp
On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 18:08, Thomas Girard wrote:

> Add i810_audio to /etc/modules. You may also use the sonypi modules 
> which will allow you to use the jogdial (apt-get install sjog).
That is interesting. How do I know that the jogdial is working? Do I
need to change something in XConfig?

Cheers,
Mariano

> > * but when loaded by hand 
> > * xmms does work and outputs that it used OSS
> > * kde sound does not work (when logging in it complains about
> >   /dev/dsp permision denied)
> Add yourself to the audio group, or whatever group the /dev/dsp device 
> belongs to.
> When modprobing i810_audio, if you did compile as modules OSS soud 
> modules, your lsmod should read :
> i810_audio
> soundcore
> ac97_codec
> 
> Hope this helps. Note that my lsmod also reads i810_rng, since I 
> compiled as a module the pseudo random number generator. I'm not sure 
> it's related, but that's worth trying. Anyway, since you're using a 
> vaio, you should use the sonypi driver (located in character devices). 
> Being able to use the jogdial is great, and I think it also gives access 
> to other sony specific features.
> > * gnome is quiet too
> > 
> >   What should I do next?
> > 
> >   What about alsa? I read that alsa is now the way to go, but oss. I
> > didn't find a alsa howto nor a package below /usr/doc. Where should I
> > look?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Mariano
> > 
> > On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 13:50, Thomas Girard wrote:
> > 
> >>I had exactly the same problem, on the same machine.
> >>First of all, you should try OSS module i810_audio. If you card remains 
> >>mute, or produces strange sounds as it did for me, you'll have to follow 
> >>these steps:
> >>Update ACPI on your kernel. The reason why the sound card was not 
> >>correctly working before is related to a IRQ sharing issue solved 
> >>recently in the ACPI subsystem.
> >>the sound works perfectly with the OSS driver Intel ICH (i8xx) module 
> >>named i810_audio. So you have to:
> >>1. Patch your kernel with the latest version of ACPI, available from 
> >>http://acpi.sourceforge.net
> >>2. Compile a new kernel with ACPI enabled (I include it in the kernel, 
> >>not as a module), and choose in the sound config:
> >> Sound card support
> >>...
> >> Intel ICH (i8xx)
> >>...
> >> OSS Sound modules
> >>3. Use the new kernel.
> >>
> >>I can provide my .config, if it helps,
> >>
> >>Thomas
> >>
> >>Mariano Kamp wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi, 
> >>>
> >>>  lspci -vv gives the following output:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
> >>>(rev 02)
> >>>Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
> >>>Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
> >>>ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> >>>Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> >>>SERR-  >>>Latency: 0
> >>>Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
> >>>Region 0: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
> >>>Region 1: I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]
> >>>
> >>>  I don't find a Kernel Module with a similar name?! What do I need to
> >>>look for? Would the discovery of the right module be everything needed
> >>>to get the sound up and running on woody or do I need anything else?
> >>>
> >>>  Just in case that is interesting?!hamlet:/home/mkamp# lsmod
> >>>Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
> >>>bsd_comp3968   0  (autoclean)
> >>>ppp_async   5984   1  (autoclean)
> >>>ppp_generic14088   3  (autoclean) [bsd_comp ppp_async]
> >>>slhc4352   0  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
> >>>eepro100   16976   1 
> >>>ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)
> >>>usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
> >>>usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
> >>>rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Mariano
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>-- 
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> >>51 rue Curiol
> >>13001 Marseille
> >>
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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Thomas Girard



Mariano Kamp wrote:

Bonjour Thomas,

 yes, that seems to be part of the solution. I have been using the ACPI
patch already, but now I also compiled the oss driver and have been a
bit more successful than before.

  So the current situation is:

* Modules are not loaded automatically
Add i810_audio to /etc/modules. You may also use the sonypi modules 
which will allow you to use the jogdial (apt-get install sjog).
* but when loaded by hand 
* xmms does work and outputs that it used OSS

* kde sound does not work (when logging in it complains about
  /dev/dsp permision denied)
Add yourself to the audio group, or whatever group the /dev/dsp device 
belongs to.
When modprobing i810_audio, if you did compile as modules OSS soud 
modules, your lsmod should read :

i810_audio
soundcore
ac97_codec

Hope this helps. Note that my lsmod also reads i810_rng, since I 
compiled as a module the pseudo random number generator. I'm not sure 
it's related, but that's worth trying. Anyway, since you're using a 
vaio, you should use the sonypi driver (located in character devices). 
Being able to use the jogdial is great, and I think it also gives access 
to other sony specific features.

* gnome is quiet too

  What should I do next?

  What about alsa? I read that alsa is now the way to go, but oss. I
didn't find a alsa howto nor a package below /usr/doc. Where should I
look?

Cheers,
Mariano

On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 13:50, Thomas Girard wrote:


I had exactly the same problem, on the same machine.
First of all, you should try OSS module i810_audio. If you card remains 
mute, or produces strange sounds as it did for me, you'll have to follow 
these steps:
Update ACPI on your kernel. The reason why the sound card was not 
correctly working before is related to a IRQ sharing issue solved 
recently in the ACPI subsystem.
the sound works perfectly with the OSS driver Intel ICH (i8xx) module 
named i810_audio. So you have to:
1. Patch your kernel with the latest version of ACPI, available from 
http://acpi.sourceforge.net
2. Compile a new kernel with ACPI enabled (I include it in the kernel, 
not as a module), and choose in the sound config:

 Sound card support
...
 Intel ICH (i8xx)
...
 OSS Sound modules
3. Use the new kernel.

I can provide my .config, if it helps,

Thomas

Mariano Kamp wrote:

Hi, 


 lspci -vv gives the following output:



00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
(rev 02)
   Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
   Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
   Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
SERR- eepro100   16976   1 
ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)

usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)


Mariano






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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Thomas Girard



Mariano Kamp wrote:

On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 18:08, Thomas Girard wrote:


Add i810_audio to /etc/modules. You may also use the sonypi modules 
which will allow you to use the jogdial (apt-get install sjog).


That is interesting. How do I know that the jogdial is working? Do I
need to change something in XConfig?

* modprobe sonypi. Check that /dev/sonypi exists. If not, check 
/var/log/messages. A modinfo sonypi could help you too.
* In a xsession, run sjog. If you get a permission denied error, try 
running sjog as root, just to see if it works. Using this program, you 
can change sound volume, change brightness, and many other things since 
it is fully customizable.
* You'll probably need to change the permissions on /dev/sonypi or 
change group of this device. If you happen to use devfsd, then I can't 
help you anymore, because I'm using it and I haven't read devfsd.conf 
manpage yet. So I can't really use sjog when not root ;-).
* The next step would be to prepend somewhere, e.g. in your .xsession or 
your .xinitrc: sjog & before running any window manager.

Cheers,
Mariano


   * but when loaded by hand 
   * xmms does work and outputs that it used OSS

   * kde sound does not work (when logging in it complains about
 /dev/dsp permision denied)


Add yourself to the audio group, or whatever group the /dev/dsp device 
belongs to.
When modprobing i810_audio, if you did compile as modules OSS soud 
modules, your lsmod should read :

i810_audio
soundcore
ac97_codec

Hope this helps. Note that my lsmod also reads i810_rng, since I 
compiled as a module the pseudo random number generator. I'm not sure 
it's related, but that's worth trying. Anyway, since you're using a 
vaio, you should use the sonypi driver (located in character devices). 
Being able to use the jogdial is great, and I think it also gives access 
to other sony specific features.



   * gnome is quiet too

 What should I do next?

 What about alsa? I read that alsa is now the way to go, but oss. I
didn't find a alsa howto nor a package below /usr/doc. Where should I
look?

Cheers,
Mariano

On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 13:50, Thomas Girard wrote:



I had exactly the same problem, on the same machine.
First of all, you should try OSS module i810_audio. If you card remains 
mute, or produces strange sounds as it did for me, you'll have to follow 
these steps:
Update ACPI on your kernel. The reason why the sound card was not 
correctly working before is related to a IRQ sharing issue solved 
recently in the ACPI subsystem.
the sound works perfectly with the OSS driver Intel ICH (i8xx) module 
named i810_audio. So you have to:
1. Patch your kernel with the latest version of ACPI, available from 
http://acpi.sourceforge.net
2. Compile a new kernel with ACPI enabled (I include it in the kernel, 
not as a module), and choose in the sound config:

 Sound card support
...
 Intel ICH (i8xx)
...
 OSS Sound modules
3. Use the new kernel.

I can provide my .config, if it helps,

Thomas

Mariano Kamp wrote:


Hi, 


lspci -vv gives the following output:



00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
(rev 02)
  Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
  Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
  Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
SERR- eepro100   16976   1 
ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)

usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)


Mariano






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how do I compile a kernel image for 486, not pentium?

2002-11-01 Thread Drew Cohan








After

 

  0) read the documentation
that came with kernel-package

  1) unpack the source tarball
that is installed

  2) enter into its
directory

  3) make menuconfig

  4) select your options

  5) make-kpkg clean

  6) make-kpkg --revision=foo
kernel_image

  7) install the new
kernel-image package

  8) reboot

 

My 486 complains that the image was compiled for Pentium+
and halts.  How do I tell it to compile for my 486 laptop?

 

Thanks,

 

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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?Hi,

2002-11-01 Thread Seneca
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:18:31PM +0100, Mariano Kamp wrote:
>   lspci -vv gives the following output:
> 
> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
> (rev 02)
> Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
> Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
> ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> SERR-  Latency: 0
> Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
> Region 0: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
> Region 1: I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]
> 
>   I don't find a Kernel Module with a similar name?! What do I need to
> look for? Would the discovery of the right module be everything needed
> to get the sound up and running on woody or do I need anything else?

Try "modprobe ac97"

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Re: how do I compile a kernel image for 486, not pentium?

2002-11-01 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:48:23PM -0500, Drew Cohan wrote:
> After
> 
>  
> 
>   0) read the documentation that came with kernel-package
> 
>   1) unpack the source tarball that is installed
> 
>   2) enter into its directory
> 
>   3) make menuconfig
> 
>   4) select your options

Under "Processor Type and Features" highlight whatever "Pentium" line is
there, hit return and then select 486.

> 
>   5) make-kpkg clean
> 
>   6) make-kpkg --revision=foo kernel_image
> 
>   7) install the new kernel-image package
> 
>   8) reboot
> 
>  
> 
> My 486 complains that the image was compiled for Pentium+ and halts.
> How do I tell it to compile for my 486 laptop?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> Drew Cohan
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  
> 



Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?Hi,

2002-11-01 Thread Kevin C. Smith
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:18:31PM +0100, Mariano Kamp wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
>   lspci -vv gives the following output:
> 
> 
> 
> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
> (rev 02)
> Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
> Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
> ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> SERR-  Latency: 0
> Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
> Region 0: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
> Region 1: I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]
> 
>   I don't find a Kernel Module with a similar name?! What do I need to
> look for? Would the discovery of the right module be everything needed
> to get the sound up and running on woody or do I need anything else?
> 

Try:  
# modprobe ac97_codec
# modprobe i810_audio

My Subsystem was different, so I don't know if i810_audio works on
yours. Worth a try though.

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Looking at asus laptops

2002-11-01 Thread nonme
Hi all,

I am looking at buying a new laptop and am wondering if anyone has run
debian on an ASUS L1400B.

First time user of linux on a laptop and would like some confirmation
before shelling out $$$.

Any help much appreciated.



Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Kevin C. Smith
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 03:26:28PM +0100, Mariano Kamp wrote:
> Bonjour Thomas,
> 
>  yes, that seems to be part of the solution. I have been using the ACPI
> patch already, but now I also compiled the oss driver and have been a
> bit more successful than before.
> 
>   So the current situation is:
> 
> * Modules are not loaded automatically
> * but when loaded by hand 
> * xmms does work and outputs that it used OSS
> * kde sound does not work (when logging in it complains about
>   /dev/dsp permision denied)
> * gnome is quiet too
> 
>   What should I do next?
> 
>   What about alsa? I read that alsa is now the way to go, but oss. I
> didn't find a alsa howto nor a package below /usr/doc. Where should I
> look?
> 
> Cheers,
> Mariano

Modules added to /etc/modules will load at boot time. 

Make sure the user starting kde is in the audio group. 

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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Thomas Girard



Mariano Kamp wrote:

Bonjour Thomas,

 yes, that seems to be part of the solution. I have been using the ACPI
patch already, but now I also compiled the oss driver and have been a
bit more successful than before.

  So the current situation is:

* Modules are not loaded automatically
* but when loaded by hand 
* xmms does work and outputs that it used OSS

* kde sound does not work (when logging in it complains about
  /dev/dsp permision denied)
* gnome is quiet too

  What should I do next?

  What about alsa? I read that alsa is now the way to go, but oss. I
didn't find a alsa howto nor a package below /usr/doc. Where should I
look?

Oops ! I forgot this one. Well, I haven't tried alsa for this soundcard, 
since OSS works fine for me. But I use it on another PC. You should 
apt-get install alsa-source alsa-utils. This will install the tarball 
source under /usr/src. Untar it and read the doc there, specifically the 
modifications to perform on /etc/modules.conf (/etc/modutils/something 
on Debian, then update-modules). Using kernel-package package to compile 
the modules yu need should be simpler.

Cheers,
Mariano

On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 13:50, Thomas Girard wrote:


I had exactly the same problem, on the same machine.
First of all, you should try OSS module i810_audio. If you card remains 
mute, or produces strange sounds as it did for me, you'll have to follow 
these steps:
Update ACPI on your kernel. The reason why the sound card was not 
correctly working before is related to a IRQ sharing issue solved 
recently in the ACPI subsystem.
the sound works perfectly with the OSS driver Intel ICH (i8xx) module 
named i810_audio. So you have to:
1. Patch your kernel with the latest version of ACPI, available from 
http://acpi.sourceforge.net
2. Compile a new kernel with ACPI enabled (I include it in the kernel, 
not as a module), and choose in the sound config:

 Sound card support
...
 Intel ICH (i8xx)
...
 OSS Sound modules
3. Use the new kernel.

I can provide my .config, if it helps,

Thomas

Mariano Kamp wrote:

Hi, 


 lspci -vv gives the following output:



00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
(rev 02)
   Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
   Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
   Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
SERR- eepro100   16976   1 
ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)

usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)


Mariano






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Re: how do I compile a kernel image for 486, not pentium?

2002-11-01 Thread Seneca
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:48:23PM -0500, Drew Cohan wrote:
[steps used moved to bottom]
> My 486 complains that the image was compiled for Pentium+ and halts.
> How do I tell it to compile for my 486 laptop?

See this modified list of steps:

>   0) read the documentation that came with kernel-package
>   1) unpack the source tarball that is installed
>   2) enter into its directory
>   3) make menuconfig
>   4) select your options

  4a) select "Processor type and features"
  4b) select "Processor family"
  4c) select "486"
 
>   5) make-kpkg clean
>   6) make-kpkg --revision=foo kernel_image
>   7) install the new kernel-image package
>   8) reboot

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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?Hi,

2002-11-01 Thread Mariano Kamp
Hi,

  thanks. Both commands seem to work alright. At least I haven't got any
error message and lsmod shows both modules loaded now:

Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
i810_audio 19968   0  (unused)
soundcore   3492   2  [i810_audio]
ac97_codec  9344   0  [i810_audio]
bsd_comp3968   0  (autoclean)
ppp_async   5984   1  (autoclean)
ppp_generic14088   3  (autoclean) [bsd_comp ppp_async]
slhc4352   0  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
eepro100   16976   1 
ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)
usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)

  How do I know that sound does work now? I used the gnome control
center to play some sounds, but haven't heard anything. I also have'nt
got any error messages though.

  Anything else I need to do to get sound running?

Mariano


On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 04:08, Kevin C. Smith wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:18:31PM +0100, Mariano Kamp wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> >   lspci -vv gives the following output:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
> > (rev 02)
> > Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
> > Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
> > ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> > Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> > SERR-  > Latency: 0
> > Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
> > Region 0: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
> > Region 1: I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]
> > 
> >   I don't find a Kernel Module with a similar name?! What do I need to
> > look for? Would the discovery of the right module be everything needed
> > to get the sound up and running on woody or do I need anything else?
> > 
> 
> Try:  
> # modprobe ac97_codec
> # modprobe i810_audio
> 
> My Subsystem was different, so I don't know if i810_audio works on
> yours. Worth a try though.
> 
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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Mattia Dongili
HI,

> Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
> i810_audio 19968   0  (unused)
> soundcore   3492   2  [i810_audio]
> ac97_codec  9344   0  [i810_audio]
[...]
> 
>   How do I know that sound does work now? I used the gnome control
> center to play some sounds, but haven't heard anything. I also have'nt
> got any error messages though.

try to play some mp3 and ensure your Mater and PCM volumes are not muted.

However, I have a similar laptop GR7/K and I had to recompile the kernel with 
ACPI support to have a fully functional system (without ACPI I had problems 
with sound, modem, memorystick slot). 

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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Thomas Girard

I had exactly the same problem, on the same machine.
First of all, you should try OSS module i810_audio. If you card remains 
mute, or produces strange sounds as it did for me, you'll have to follow 
these steps:
Update ACPI on your kernel. The reason why the sound card was not 
correctly working before is related to a IRQ sharing issue solved 
recently in the ACPI subsystem.
the sound works perfectly with the OSS driver Intel ICH (i8xx) module 
named i810_audio. So you have to:
1. Patch your kernel with the latest version of ACPI, available from 
http://acpi.sourceforge.net
2. Compile a new kernel with ACPI enabled (I include it in the kernel, 
not as a module), and choose in the sound config:

 Sound card support
...
 Intel ICH (i8xx)
...
 OSS Sound modules
3. Use the new kernel.

I can provide my .config, if it helps,

Thomas

Mariano Kamp wrote:
Hi, 


  lspci -vv gives the following output:



00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
(rev 02)
Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
SERR- eepro100   16976   1 
ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)

usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)


Mariano






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ANTHONY THABO

2002-11-01 Thread ANTHONY THABO



ATTN: SIR/MADAM,
  STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL.
I am pleased to introduce myself  to you.My name is Mr. Anthony  Thabo  a 
native of South Africa and a senior employee of mines and natural resources 
department currently on a trainning course in Holland for few months.

I  am writing this letter to request your assistance in order to
redeem an investment with the South African mining Corporation.The
said investment, now valued at  ($22.5 million dollars) Twenty-two
 million,five hundred thousand dollars only was purchased by ( Lucio
Harper ) and contracted out to the South  African Mining Corporation
in 1977 now recognised as mines and natural resources department.This
redeemable investment interest,has now matured since March last year.
Since March last year, several attempts have been made to contact
Lucio Harper without success and there is no way to contact any
of his close relatives in whose favour the investment cash value
can be paid.

Since we have access to all Lucio Harper's information,we can claim
this money with the help of my partners with the South African Mines
and natural resources department.All we have to do is to file claim
using you as Lucio Harper's relative.
I will like to assure you that there is absolutely nothing to worry
about,because it is perfectly safe with no risk involved.Please
ensure to keep this matter strictly confidential.My partner will
file a claim for this money on your behalf from the South African
mining Corporation.When the claim is approved,you as the beneficiary
will be paid (25%) of the total amouth.

Since this money can be paid directly into any bank account of your
choice,you have responsibility to ensure that my partner and I receive(70%)of 
the total amouth.While the balance (5%) will be set aside for any
unforseen expenses in the cause of transfering this money.

I will appreciate if you can give your assurance and guarantee that
our share will be well secured.Please for the sake of confidentiality,reach
me on my e-mail address:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   .And let me
know if this proposal is acceptable to you.And kindly reach me immediately
with any of the stated contact addresses so that better clearifications
relating to the transaction will be explained to you.


Truly yours,
Anthony  Thabo.

   

running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread samuel desseaux
Hi!

I plan to buy soon a laptop and install on it debian. I hesitate between a 
toshiba and a dell inspiron 8200. According to you, what is the best for 
running easy Debian?

cheers

sam
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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach samuel desseaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.11.01.2054 +0100]:
> I plan to buy soon a laptop and install on it debian. I hesitate between a 
> toshiba and a dell inspiron 8200. According to you, what is the best for 
> running easy Debian?

I can only speak for Dell and may say that Debian runs fine. You won't
be able to use any builtin modems. In general though, I would
recommend not buying the Inspiron but the Latitude. It may be more
expensive at first sight, but it's definitely more sturdy and will
make you happier longer. And so not forget the three years of
warranty!!!

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re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread goneaway
I have a Toshiba Tecra 8000 which has absolutely no trouble running
Debian. I haven't got the sound working but that's more an issue of need
than ability.




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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread np
I also have debian up and running on a Toshiba Tecra 8000 (PII 366). I have 
sound up and running and the internal modem works with a linmodem driver, with 
a little fiddling (not too hard). All in all a good laptop for Debian!

best,
Nick

You Wrote:
--

Hi!

I plan to buy soon a laptop and install on it debian. I hesitate between a 
toshiba and a dell inspiron 8200. According to you, what is the best for 
running easy Debian?

cheers

sam
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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread samuel desseaux

>
> I can only speak for Dell and may say that Debian runs fine. You won't
> be able to use any builtin modems. In general though, I would
> recommend not buying the Inspiron but the Latitude. It may be more
> expensive at first sight, but it's definitely more sturdy and will
> make you happier longer. And so not forget the three years of
> warranty!!!

** Thank you for your suggestion!
Concerning builtin modem, i know and that's not a problem. what is important 
for me is to having a network card.

cheers

sam

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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach samuel desseaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.11.01.2214 +0100]:
> ** Thank you for your suggestion!
> Concerning builtin modem, i know and that's not a problem. what is important 
> for me is to having a network card.

Dell uses 3com. Thy are guaranteed to work.

PS: Please don't CC me on lists that I read!

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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread Auke Jilderda
I am running Debian on a Latitude c610, haven't tried the modem (yet)
but everything else works like a charm.  No problem getting anything to
work: Power management, network adapters (both in the laptop and in the
docking station), graphics adapter, sound...


Auke

On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 10:15:56PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach samuel desseaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.11.01.2214 +0100]:
> > ** Thank you for your suggestion!  Concerning builtin modem, i know
> > and that's not a problem. what is important for me is to having a
> > network card.
> 
> Dell uses 3com. Thy are guaranteed to work.
> 
> PS: Please don't CC me on lists that I read!

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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I plan to buy soon a laptop and install on it debian. I hesitate between a 
>toshiba and a dell inspiron 8200. According to you, what is the best for 
>running easy Debian?

I've got a dell inspiron 8200 running debian sid.  I like the
ultrasharp uxga (1600x1200) display.

The nvidia geforce2 go (cheapest video) didn't work with the woody
version of the nv driver, but does work with the sid one.  (One time I
had a problem, but exiting and restarting x fixed it.)  I've only had
the system a week.

I've found but not tested a linmodem driver for the modem.  Sound and
network work fine.  Untested are usb, firewire, and pcmcia.

When buying direct from dell, watch their prices.  They want $400 more
now for the system I have than I payed three weeks ago.  (The display
option caused a shipping delay.)
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displaying images without X

2002-11-01 Thread Drew Cohan








Does anyone know how Debian 3.0, upon booting up, displays
the penguin holding a beer without X being installed?  I’ve found
the png but can’t find the means the system uses to display this image on
boot.

 

I’ve tried to duplicate this behavior with ‘fbi’
but I get ‘only packed pixel buffers supported’.  With ‘zgv’,
I get a seg fault.  All I want to do is display a jpg/gif/png without
having X installed.

 

Thanks,

 

Drew Cohan

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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread Alexander Zangerl
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 22:15:56 +0100, martin f krafft writes:
>also sprach samuel desseaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.11.01.2214 +0100]:
>> what is important 
>> for me is to having a network card.

>Dell uses 3com. Thy are guaranteed to work.
 ^^
i hope you mean the network cards; because for the modems and combo-things
this statement is not completely true.
hp use(s|d) 3com as well, and some combos have modems which are guaranteed 
not to work (like the one in my omnibook 6000). the ethernet works fine, 
just not the modem part.

regards
az

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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?Hi,

2002-11-01 Thread Mariano Kamp
Hi Kevin,

  thx. I installed aumix, but with not much of success. When running
aumix it tells me:

aumix:  error opening mixer

  I get this error message no matter if I have the modules loaded or
not. I looked up the man pages for aumix but haven't found a switch like
"verbose" or "debug" to make it more expressive.
  
  Btw. I can hear music with XMMS. So I believe sound is not muted, is
it?


Mariano

On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 15:22, Kevin C. Smith wrote:
> Make sure your sound is not muted. 
> Use aumix to do this. 
> 
> There could be other isssue, as stated on the list recently.
> 
> 
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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?Hi,

2002-11-01 Thread Mariano Kamp
Hi,

  thanks. Both commands seem to work alright. At least I haven't got any
error message and lsmod shows both modules loaded now:

Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
i810_audio 19968   0  (unused)
soundcore   3492   2  [i810_audio]
ac97_codec  9344   0  [i810_audio]
bsd_comp3968   0  (autoclean)
ppp_async   5984   1  (autoclean)
ppp_generic14088   3  (autoclean) [bsd_comp ppp_async]
slhc4352   0  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
eepro100   16976   1 
ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)
usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)

  How do I know that sound does work now? I used the gnome control
center to play some sounds, but haven't heard anything. I also have'nt
got any error messages though.

  Anything else I need to do to get sound running?

Mariano


On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 04:08, Kevin C. Smith wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 11:18:31PM +0100, Mariano Kamp wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> >   lspci -vv gives the following output:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
> > (rev 02)
> > Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
> > Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
> > ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> > Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> > SERR-  > Latency: 0
> > Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
> > Region 0: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
> > Region 1: I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]
> > 
> >   I don't find a Kernel Module with a similar name?! What do I need to
> > look for? Would the discovery of the right module be everything needed
> > to get the sound up and running on woody or do I need anything else?
> > 
> 
> Try:  
> # modprobe ac97_codec
> # modprobe i810_audio
> 
> My Subsystem was different, so I don't know if i810_audio works on
> yours. Worth a try though.
> 
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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Mattia Dongili
HI,

> Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
> i810_audio 19968   0  (unused)
> soundcore   3492   2  [i810_audio]
> ac97_codec  9344   0  [i810_audio]
[...]
> 
>   How do I know that sound does work now? I used the gnome control
> center to play some sounds, but haven't heard anything. I also have'nt
> got any error messages though.

try to play some mp3 and ensure your Mater and PCM volumes are not muted.

However, I have a similar laptop GR7/K and I had to recompile the kernel with ACPI 
support to have a fully functional system (without ACPI I had problems with sound, 
modem, memorystick slot). 

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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Thomas Girard
I had exactly the same problem, on the same machine.
First of all, you should try OSS module i810_audio. If you card remains 
mute, or produces strange sounds as it did for me, you'll have to follow 
these steps:
Update ACPI on your kernel. The reason why the sound card was not 
correctly working before is related to a IRQ sharing issue solved 
recently in the ACPI subsystem.
the sound works perfectly with the OSS driver Intel ICH (i8xx) module 
named i810_audio. So you have to:
1. Patch your kernel with the latest version of ACPI, available from 
http://acpi.sourceforge.net
2. Compile a new kernel with ACPI enabled (I include it in the kernel, 
not as a module), and choose in the sound config:
 Sound card support
...
 Intel ICH (i8xx)
...
 OSS Sound modules
3. Use the new kernel.

I can provide my .config, if it helps,

Thomas

Mariano Kamp wrote:
Hi, 

  lspci -vv gives the following output:



00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
(rev 02)
Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
SERR- 
Latency: 0
Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
Region 0: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
Region 1: I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]

  I don't find a Kernel Module with a similar name?! What do I need to
look for? Would the discovery of the right module be everything needed
to get the sound up and running on woody or do I need anything else?

  Just in case that is interesting?!hamlet:/home/mkamp# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
bsd_comp3968   0  (autoclean)
ppp_async   5984   1  (autoclean)
ppp_generic14088   3  (autoclean) [bsd_comp ppp_async]
slhc4352   0  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
eepro100   16976   1 
ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)
usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)


Mariano





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ANTHONY THABO

2002-11-01 Thread ANTHONY THABO



ATTN: SIR/MADAM,
  STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL.
I am pleased to introduce myself  to you.My name is Mr. Anthony  Thabo  a native of 
South Africa and a senior employee of mines and natural resources department currently 
on a trainning course in Holland for few months.

I  am writing this letter to request your assistance in order to
redeem an investment with the South African mining Corporation.The
said investment, now valued at  ($22.5 million dollars) Twenty-two
 million,five hundred thousand dollars only was purchased by ( Lucio
Harper ) and contracted out to the South  African Mining Corporation
in 1977 now recognised as mines and natural resources department.This
redeemable investment interest,has now matured since March last year.
Since March last year, several attempts have been made to contact
Lucio Harper without success and there is no way to contact any
of his close relatives in whose favour the investment cash value
can be paid.

Since we have access to all Lucio Harper's information,we can claim
this money with the help of my partners with the South African Mines
and natural resources department.All we have to do is to file claim
using you as Lucio Harper's relative.
I will like to assure you that there is absolutely nothing to worry
about,because it is perfectly safe with no risk involved.Please
ensure to keep this matter strictly confidential.My partner will
file a claim for this money on your behalf from the South African
mining Corporation.When the claim is approved,you as the beneficiary
will be paid (25%) of the total amouth.

Since this money can be paid directly into any bank account of your
choice,you have responsibility to ensure that my partner and I receive(70%)of 
the total amouth.While the balance (5%) will be set aside for any
unforseen expenses in the cause of transfering this money.

I will appreciate if you can give your assurance and guarantee that
our share will be well secured.Please for the sake of confidentiality,reach
me on my e-mail address:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   .And let me
know if this proposal is acceptable to you.And kindly reach me immediately
with any of the stated contact addresses so that better clearifications
relating to the transaction will be explained to you.


Truly yours,
Anthony  Thabo.

   


Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Mariano Kamp
Bonjour Thomas,

 yes, that seems to be part of the solution. I have been using the ACPI
patch already, but now I also compiled the oss driver and have been a
bit more successful than before.

  So the current situation is:

* Modules are not loaded automatically
* but when loaded by hand 
* xmms does work and outputs that it used OSS
* kde sound does not work (when logging in it complains about
  /dev/dsp permision denied)
* gnome is quiet too

  What should I do next?

  What about alsa? I read that alsa is now the way to go, but oss. I
didn't find a alsa howto nor a package below /usr/doc. Where should I
look?

Cheers,
Mariano

On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 13:50, Thomas Girard wrote:
> I had exactly the same problem, on the same machine.
> First of all, you should try OSS module i810_audio. If you card remains 
> mute, or produces strange sounds as it did for me, you'll have to follow 
> these steps:
> Update ACPI on your kernel. The reason why the sound card was not 
> correctly working before is related to a IRQ sharing issue solved 
> recently in the ACPI subsystem.
> the sound works perfectly with the OSS driver Intel ICH (i8xx) module 
> named i810_audio. So you have to:
> 1. Patch your kernel with the latest version of ACPI, available from 
> http://acpi.sourceforge.net
> 2. Compile a new kernel with ACPI enabled (I include it in the kernel, 
> not as a module), and choose in the sound config:
>  Sound card support
> ...
>  Intel ICH (i8xx)
> ...
>  OSS Sound modules
> 3. Use the new kernel.
> 
> I can provide my .config, if it helps,
> 
> Thomas
> 
> Mariano Kamp wrote:
> > Hi, 
> > 
> >   lspci -vv gives the following output:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
> > (rev 02)
> > Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
> > Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
> > ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> > Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> > SERR-  > Latency: 0
> > Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
> > Region 0: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
> > Region 1: I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]
> > 
> >   I don't find a Kernel Module with a similar name?! What do I need to
> > look for? Would the discovery of the right module be everything needed
> > to get the sound up and running on woody or do I need anything else?
> > 
> >   Just in case that is interesting?!hamlet:/home/mkamp# lsmod
> > Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
> > bsd_comp3968   0  (autoclean)
> > ppp_async   5984   1  (autoclean)
> > ppp_generic14088   3  (autoclean) [bsd_comp ppp_async]
> > slhc4352   0  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
> > eepro100   16976   1 
> > ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)
> > usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
> > usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
> > rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)
> > 
> > 
> > Mariano
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?Hi,

2002-11-01 Thread Mariano Kamp
Hi Kevin,

  thx. I installed aumix, but with not much of success. When running
aumix it tells me:

aumix:  error opening mixer

  I get this error message no matter if I have the modules loaded or
not. I looked up the man pages for aumix but haven't found a switch like
"verbose" or "debug" to make it more expressive.
  
  Btw. I can hear music with XMMS. So I believe sound is not muted, is
it?


Mariano

On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 15:22, Kevin C. Smith wrote:
> Make sure your sound is not muted. 
> Use aumix to do this. 
> 
> There could be other isssue, as stated on the list recently.
> 
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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Thomas Girard


Mariano Kamp wrote:

Bonjour Thomas,

 yes, that seems to be part of the solution. I have been using the ACPI
patch already, but now I also compiled the oss driver and have been a
bit more successful than before.

  So the current situation is:

* Modules are not loaded automatically

Add i810_audio to /etc/modules. You may also use the sonypi modules 
which will allow you to use the jogdial (apt-get install sjog).
* but when loaded by hand 
* xmms does work and outputs that it used OSS
* kde sound does not work (when logging in it complains about
  /dev/dsp permision denied)
Add yourself to the audio group, or whatever group the /dev/dsp device 
belongs to.
When modprobing i810_audio, if you did compile as modules OSS soud 
modules, your lsmod should read :
i810_audio
soundcore
ac97_codec

Hope this helps. Note that my lsmod also reads i810_rng, since I 
compiled as a module the pseudo random number generator. I'm not sure 
it's related, but that's worth trying. Anyway, since you're using a 
vaio, you should use the sonypi driver (located in character devices). 
Being able to use the jogdial is great, and I think it also gives access 
to other sony specific features.
* gnome is quiet too

  What should I do next?

  What about alsa? I read that alsa is now the way to go, but oss. I
didn't find a alsa howto nor a package below /usr/doc. Where should I
look?

Cheers,
Mariano

On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 13:50, Thomas Girard wrote:


I had exactly the same problem, on the same machine.
First of all, you should try OSS module i810_audio. If you card remains 
mute, or produces strange sounds as it did for me, you'll have to follow 
these steps:
Update ACPI on your kernel. The reason why the sound card was not 
correctly working before is related to a IRQ sharing issue solved 
recently in the ACPI subsystem.
the sound works perfectly with the OSS driver Intel ICH (i8xx) module 
named i810_audio. So you have to:
1. Patch your kernel with the latest version of ACPI, available from 
http://acpi.sourceforge.net
2. Compile a new kernel with ACPI enabled (I include it in the kernel, 
not as a module), and choose in the sound config:
 Sound card support
...
 Intel ICH (i8xx)
...
 OSS Sound modules
3. Use the new kernel.

I can provide my .config, if it helps,

Thomas

Mariano Kamp wrote:

Hi, 

 lspci -vv gives the following output:



00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
(rev 02)
   Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
   Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
   Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
SERR- 
   Latency: 0
   Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
   Region 0: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
   Region 1: I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]

 I don't find a Kernel Module with a similar name?! What do I need to
look for? Would the discovery of the right module be everything needed
to get the sound up and running on woody or do I need anything else?

 Just in case that is interesting?!hamlet:/home/mkamp# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
bsd_comp3968   0  (autoclean)
ppp_async   5984   1  (autoclean)
ppp_generic14088   3  (autoclean) [bsd_comp ppp_async]
slhc4352   0  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
eepro100   16976   1 
ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)
usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)


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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Thomas Girard


Mariano Kamp wrote:

Bonjour Thomas,

 yes, that seems to be part of the solution. I have been using the ACPI
patch already, but now I also compiled the oss driver and have been a
bit more successful than before.

  So the current situation is:

* Modules are not loaded automatically
* but when loaded by hand 
* xmms does work and outputs that it used OSS
* kde sound does not work (when logging in it complains about
  /dev/dsp permision denied)
* gnome is quiet too

  What should I do next?

  What about alsa? I read that alsa is now the way to go, but oss. I
didn't find a alsa howto nor a package below /usr/doc. Where should I
look?

Oops ! I forgot this one. Well, I haven't tried alsa for this soundcard, 
since OSS works fine for me. But I use it on another PC. You should 
apt-get install alsa-source alsa-utils. This will install the tarball 
source under /usr/src. Untar it and read the doc there, specifically the 
modifications to perform on /etc/modules.conf (/etc/modutils/something 
on Debian, then update-modules). Using kernel-package package to compile 
the modules yu need should be simpler.
Cheers,
Mariano

On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 13:50, Thomas Girard wrote:


I had exactly the same problem, on the same machine.
First of all, you should try OSS module i810_audio. If you card remains 
mute, or produces strange sounds as it did for me, you'll have to follow 
these steps:
Update ACPI on your kernel. The reason why the sound card was not 
correctly working before is related to a IRQ sharing issue solved 
recently in the ACPI subsystem.
the sound works perfectly with the OSS driver Intel ICH (i8xx) module 
named i810_audio. So you have to:
1. Patch your kernel with the latest version of ACPI, available from 
http://acpi.sourceforge.net
2. Compile a new kernel with ACPI enabled (I include it in the kernel, 
not as a module), and choose in the sound config:
 Sound card support
...
 Intel ICH (i8xx)
...
 OSS Sound modules
3. Use the new kernel.

I can provide my .config, if it helps,

Thomas

Mariano Kamp wrote:

Hi, 

 lspci -vv gives the following output:



00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
(rev 02)
   Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
   Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
   Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
SERR- 
   Latency: 0
   Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
   Region 0: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
   Region 1: I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]

 I don't find a Kernel Module with a similar name?! What do I need to
look for? Would the discovery of the right module be everything needed
to get the sound up and running on woody or do I need anything else?

 Just in case that is interesting?!hamlet:/home/mkamp# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
bsd_comp3968   0  (autoclean)
ppp_async   5984   1  (autoclean)
ppp_generic14088   3  (autoclean) [bsd_comp ppp_async]
slhc4352   0  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
eepro100   16976   1 
ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)
usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)


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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Kevin C. Smith
On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 03:26:28PM +0100, Mariano Kamp wrote:
> Bonjour Thomas,
> 
>  yes, that seems to be part of the solution. I have been using the ACPI
> patch already, but now I also compiled the oss driver and have been a
> bit more successful than before.
> 
>   So the current situation is:
> 
> * Modules are not loaded automatically
> * but when loaded by hand 
> * xmms does work and outputs that it used OSS
> * kde sound does not work (when logging in it complains about
>   /dev/dsp permision denied)
> * gnome is quiet too
> 
>   What should I do next?
> 
>   What about alsa? I read that alsa is now the way to go, but oss. I
> didn't find a alsa howto nor a package below /usr/doc. Where should I
> look?
> 
> Cheers,
> Mariano

Modules added to /etc/modules will load at boot time. 

Make sure the user starting kde is in the audio group. 

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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Mariano Kamp
On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 18:08, Thomas Girard wrote:

> Add i810_audio to /etc/modules. You may also use the sonypi modules 
> which will allow you to use the jogdial (apt-get install sjog).
That is interesting. How do I know that the jogdial is working? Do I
need to change something in XConfig?

Cheers,
Mariano

> > * but when loaded by hand 
> > * xmms does work and outputs that it used OSS
> > * kde sound does not work (when logging in it complains about
> >   /dev/dsp permision denied)
> Add yourself to the audio group, or whatever group the /dev/dsp device 
> belongs to.
> When modprobing i810_audio, if you did compile as modules OSS soud 
> modules, your lsmod should read :
> i810_audio
> soundcore
> ac97_codec
> 
> Hope this helps. Note that my lsmod also reads i810_rng, since I 
> compiled as a module the pseudo random number generator. I'm not sure 
> it's related, but that's worth trying. Anyway, since you're using a 
> vaio, you should use the sonypi driver (located in character devices). 
> Being able to use the jogdial is great, and I think it also gives access 
> to other sony specific features.
> > * gnome is quiet too
> > 
> >   What should I do next?
> > 
> >   What about alsa? I read that alsa is now the way to go, but oss. I
> > didn't find a alsa howto nor a package below /usr/doc. Where should I
> > look?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Mariano
> > 
> > On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 13:50, Thomas Girard wrote:
> > 
> >>I had exactly the same problem, on the same machine.
> >>First of all, you should try OSS module i810_audio. If you card remains 
> >>mute, or produces strange sounds as it did for me, you'll have to follow 
> >>these steps:
> >>Update ACPI on your kernel. The reason why the sound card was not 
> >>correctly working before is related to a IRQ sharing issue solved 
> >>recently in the ACPI subsystem.
> >>the sound works perfectly with the OSS driver Intel ICH (i8xx) module 
> >>named i810_audio. So you have to:
> >>1. Patch your kernel with the latest version of ACPI, available from 
> >>http://acpi.sourceforge.net
> >>2. Compile a new kernel with ACPI enabled (I include it in the kernel, 
> >>not as a module), and choose in the sound config:
> >> Sound card support
> >>...
> >> Intel ICH (i8xx)
> >>...
> >> OSS Sound modules
> >>3. Use the new kernel.
> >>
> >>I can provide my .config, if it helps,
> >>
> >>Thomas
> >>
> >>Mariano Kamp wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi, 
> >>>
> >>>  lspci -vv gives the following output:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
> >>>(rev 02)
> >>>Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
> >>>Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
> >>>ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
> >>>Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> >>>SERR-  >>>Latency: 0
> >>>Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
> >>>Region 0: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
> >>>Region 1: I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]
> >>>
> >>>  I don't find a Kernel Module with a similar name?! What do I need to
> >>>look for? Would the discovery of the right module be everything needed
> >>>to get the sound up and running on woody or do I need anything else?
> >>>
> >>>  Just in case that is interesting?!hamlet:/home/mkamp# lsmod
> >>>Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
> >>>bsd_comp3968   0  (autoclean)
> >>>ppp_async   5984   1  (autoclean)
> >>>ppp_generic14088   3  (autoclean) [bsd_comp ppp_async]
> >>>slhc4352   0  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
> >>>eepro100   16976   1 
> >>>ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)
> >>>usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
> >>>usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
> >>>rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Mariano
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: How to enable sound with Intel AC'97 on Sony VAIO GRX316G?

2002-11-01 Thread Thomas Girard


Mariano Kamp wrote:

On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 18:08, Thomas Girard wrote:



Add i810_audio to /etc/modules. You may also use the sonypi modules 
which will allow you to use the jogdial (apt-get install sjog).

That is interesting. How do I know that the jogdial is working? Do I
need to change something in XConfig?


* modprobe sonypi. Check that /dev/sonypi exists. If not, check 
/var/log/messages. A modinfo sonypi could help you too.
* In a xsession, run sjog. If you get a permission denied error, try 
running sjog as root, just to see if it works. Using this program, you 
can change sound volume, change brightness, and many other things since 
it is fully customizable.
* You'll probably need to change the permissions on /dev/sonypi or 
change group of this device. If you happen to use devfsd, then I can't 
help you anymore, because I'm using it and I haven't read devfsd.conf 
manpage yet. So I can't really use sjog when not root ;-).
* The next step would be to prepend somewhere, e.g. in your .xsession or 
your .xinitrc: sjog & before running any window manager.
Cheers,
Mariano



   * but when loaded by hand 
   * xmms does work and outputs that it used OSS
   * kde sound does not work (when logging in it complains about
 /dev/dsp permision denied)

Add yourself to the audio group, or whatever group the /dev/dsp device 
belongs to.
When modprobing i810_audio, if you did compile as modules OSS soud 
modules, your lsmod should read :
i810_audio
soundcore
ac97_codec

Hope this helps. Note that my lsmod also reads i810_rng, since I 
compiled as a module the pseudo random number generator. I'm not sure 
it's related, but that's worth trying. Anyway, since you're using a 
vaio, you should use the sonypi driver (located in character devices). 
Being able to use the jogdial is great, and I think it also gives access 
to other sony specific features.

   * gnome is quiet too

 What should I do next?

 What about alsa? I read that alsa is now the way to go, but oss. I
didn't find a alsa howto nor a package below /usr/doc. Where should I
look?

Cheers,
Mariano

On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 13:50, Thomas Girard wrote:



I had exactly the same problem, on the same machine.
First of all, you should try OSS module i810_audio. If you card remains 
mute, or produces strange sounds as it did for me, you'll have to follow 
these steps:
Update ACPI on your kernel. The reason why the sound card was not 
correctly working before is related to a IRQ sharing issue solved 
recently in the ACPI subsystem.
the sound works perfectly with the OSS driver Intel ICH (i8xx) module 
named i810_audio. So you have to:
1. Patch your kernel with the latest version of ACPI, available from 
http://acpi.sourceforge.net
2. Compile a new kernel with ACPI enabled (I include it in the kernel, 
not as a module), and choose in the sound config:
 Sound card support
...
 Intel ICH (i8xx)
...
 OSS Sound modules
3. Use the new kernel.

I can provide my .config, if it helps,

Thomas

Mariano Kamp wrote:


Hi, 

lspci -vv gives the following output:



00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. AC'97 Audio Controller
(rev 02)
  Subsystem: Sony Corporation: Unknown device 80fa
  Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
  Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
SERR- 
  Latency: 0
  Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
  Region 0: I/O ports at 1c00 [size=256]
  Region 1: I/O ports at 18c0 [size=64]

I don't find a Kernel Module with a similar name?! What do I need to
look for? Would the discovery of the right module be everything needed
to get the sound up and running on woody or do I need anything else?

Just in case that is interesting?!hamlet:/home/mkamp# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
bsd_comp3968   0  (autoclean)
ppp_async   5984   1  (autoclean)
ppp_generic14088   3  (autoclean) [bsd_comp ppp_async]
slhc4352   0  (autoclean) [ppp_generic]
eepro100   16976   1 
ieee1394   25576   0  (unused)
usb-uhci   20996   0  (unused)
usbcore52512   0  [usb-uhci]
rtc 5368   0  (autoclean)


Mariano





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running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread samuel desseaux
Hi!

I plan to buy soon a laptop and install on it debian. I hesitate between a 
toshiba and a dell inspiron 8200. According to you, what is the best for 
running easy Debian?

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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach samuel desseaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.11.01.2054 +0100]:
> I plan to buy soon a laptop and install on it debian. I hesitate between a 
> toshiba and a dell inspiron 8200. According to you, what is the best for 
> running easy Debian?

I can only speak for Dell and may say that Debian runs fine. You won't
be able to use any builtin modems. In general though, I would
recommend not buying the Inspiron but the Latitude. It may be more
expensive at first sight, but it's definitely more sturdy and will
make you happier longer. And so not forget the three years of
warranty!!!

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2002-11-01 Thread goneaway
I have a Toshiba Tecra 8000 which has absolutely no trouble running
Debian. I haven't got the sound working but that's more an issue of need
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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread np
I also have debian up and running on a Toshiba Tecra 8000 (PII 366). I have sound up 
and running and the internal modem works with a linmodem driver, with a little 
fiddling (not too hard). All in all a good laptop for Debian!

best,
Nick

You Wrote:
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Hi!

I plan to buy soon a laptop and install on it debian. I hesitate between a 
toshiba and a dell inspiron 8200. According to you, what is the best for 
running easy Debian?

cheers

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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread samuel desseaux

>
> I can only speak for Dell and may say that Debian runs fine. You won't
> be able to use any builtin modems. In general though, I would
> recommend not buying the Inspiron but the Latitude. It may be more
> expensive at first sight, but it's definitely more sturdy and will
> make you happier longer. And so not forget the three years of
> warranty!!!

** Thank you for your suggestion!
Concerning builtin modem, i know and that's not a problem. what is important 
for me is to having a network card.

cheers

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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach samuel desseaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.11.01.2214 +0100]:
> ** Thank you for your suggestion!
> Concerning builtin modem, i know and that's not a problem. what is important 
> for me is to having a network card.

Dell uses 3com. Thy are guaranteed to work.

PS: Please don't CC me on lists that I read!

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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread Auke Jilderda
I am running Debian on a Latitude c610, haven't tried the modem (yet)
but everything else works like a charm.  No problem getting anything to
work: Power management, network adapters (both in the laptop and in the
docking station), graphics adapter, sound...


Auke

On Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 10:15:56PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach samuel desseaux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.11.01.2214 +0100]:
> > ** Thank you for your suggestion!  Concerning builtin modem, i know
> > and that's not a problem. what is important for me is to having a
> > network card.
> 
> Dell uses 3com. Thy are guaranteed to work.
> 
> PS: Please don't CC me on lists that I read!

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Re: running debian on a laptop

2002-11-01 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I plan to buy soon a laptop and install on it debian. I hesitate between a 
>toshiba and a dell inspiron 8200. According to you, what is the best for 
>running easy Debian?

I've got a dell inspiron 8200 running debian sid.  I like the
ultrasharp uxga (1600x1200) display.

The nvidia geforce2 go (cheapest video) didn't work with the woody
version of the nv driver, but does work with the sid one.  (One time I
had a problem, but exiting and restarting x fixed it.)  I've only had
the system a week.

I've found but not tested a linmodem driver for the modem.  Sound and
network work fine.  Untested are usb, firewire, and pcmcia.

When buying direct from dell, watch their prices.  They want $400 more
now for the system I have than I payed three weeks ago.  (The display
option caused a shipping delay.)
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displaying images without X

2002-11-01 Thread Drew Cohan








Does anyone know how Debian 3.0, upon booting up, displays
the penguin holding a beer without X being installed?  I’ve found
the png but can’t find the means the system uses to display this image on
boot.

 

I’ve tried to duplicate this behavior with ‘fbi’
but I get ‘only packed pixel buffers supported’.  With ‘zgv’,
I get a seg fault.  All I want to do is display a jpg/gif/png without
having X installed.

 

Thanks,

 

Drew Cohan

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