Re: New XE3, many questions

[Pavel Mihaylov]

ср, 20.02.2002 г., в 20.20 (+0200) Gabor FLEISCHER написа:
> BUT when I start to play a song I can't hear it (or sometimes only very
> quitely). I need to go to a mixer (alsamixer) and either change a littlebit
> the volume of Master (sometimes even PCM needed) or mute & unmute them.
> After this the volume will be fine.
> 
very strange, which version of alsa is that? The 0.9.x releases could be
buggy, I am using 0.5.12a.

> I think this is a hardware bug. I don't remember how it worked with the
> 2.4.17 kernel's oss drivers (I just wanted to try them out, made alsa stop,
> and modprobe maestro3, but I got kernel crash : so this is the second
> time I type in this letter...) Any idea?
worked fine here with the kernel driver.. your laptop really seems
broken to me.

> Well I don't know which of the different IR types should I set in the BIOS.
> Normal/IrDA/FIR/something else which I don't remember now.
Normal (SIR) should be fine for the Nokia, FIR is Fast InfraRed and
allows speeds up to 4mbits but needs special drivers.

> Well I just checked this out today. I went to the shop where I bought the
> notebook and had a look to the same model. It was running XP, and the LCD
> shaw the same time as on the panel of windows. But I did another try!
> When I booted that machine and entered BIOS setup, the clock on the LCD just
> stopped. I think this is something like "winclock" (like winmodem) it needs
> a driver. The bad thing is that even when I turn the notebook off it
> continues from the time of the last reboot, when BIOS somehow syncronized it
> to the CMOS clock. I think I'll write to the HP hepldesk, maybe they could
> fix this in a future BIOS update. (but I guess Linux driver would be
> necessary anyway to work it during linux session)
It seems very stupid to me if the LCD clock would need a driver, that'll
be a hell downgrade compared to my model.

> 
> > > 9. Any methods to change between LCD and external monitor output without
> > > reboot? (This new XE3 has i830MG. As I saw the older machines had Savage,
> > > and there was a utility to change between outputs)
> > Indeed mine has Savage, switching between LCD/CRT is done by Fn+F5
> Well it's printed on the keyboard, but does nothing. Maybe it blinks the LCD
> when it's on LCD, but now I'm using external monitor, and does nothing)
Probably that is somehow connected to the videocard's BIOS and your
video is different anyway.

> 
> > > 10. Any success with KDE? I found on the net that it's a bug in X 4.1's 
> > > VESA
> > > driver, and I have to upgrade to 4.2. Is it worth? Will it work?
> > If you get X running you can get KDE too. It's always best to upgrade to
> Well no :( I'm using icewm-expermental (gnome) at the moment, because KDE
> hangs when it starts. I found this bug on the internet too, so I'll try it
> with 4.2...
Haven't tried 4.2 yet but I suggest you to try it -- always try the
newest version if there are bugs.

> complicated. I had a look at the kernel source's kbd driver, and if I knew
> what was that code about (some in and out stuff to port 64) maybe I would
> try to hack the kernel, but I have no clue. Tell me if you want the code!
Ok, drop the code on my email.

> > The XE3 has a Synaptics touch pad. 1 or 2 weeks ago there was a thread
> > with a working solution to get one of the scroll buttons as a third
> > mouse button under X. Search the list for "Synaptics touchpad".
> 
> I found it, and well it works better than the things I tried so far, but
> still has some problems. Under X when I move my finger on the touchpad
> and release it, the cursor goes on 'till it reaches the edge of the screen.
will send you mine config later, the phenomenon you describe is due to
"toss-something" setting which is ON by default.

Pavel

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Re: Dell Inspiron 2500 PCMCIA issues

[Derek Broughton]

sageFool wrote:


Hi, so I compiled the kernel with the PCMCIA/CARDBUS support turned on.

WHen I run ./test_setup I get:

debian:/usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.31/debug-tools# ./test_setup 
Current kernel: 2.4.17 #6 Tue Feb 19 07:50:28 PST 2002

/lib/modules/2.4.17/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.o not found.
  The PCMCIA modules are not installed for this kernel!

...

Module status:
  No PCMCIA modules are loaded.



which looks bad. Maybe it's not necessary if you compiled right into the 
kernel, but here's my config settings for PCMCIA.


# PCMCIA/CardBus support
CONFIG_PCMCIA=m
# PCMCIA network device support
CONFIG_NET_PCMCIA=y
CONFIG_PCMCIA_PCNET=m
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_IBMTR is not set
CONFIG_NET_PCMCIA_RADIO=y
# PCMCIA character devices
CONFIG_PCMCIA_SERIAL_CS=m

Obviously some of your modules may be different.

In your message to me, you mention
> It doesn't mention yenta because I have kernel PCMCIA turned off.  You
> need to turn it on and change the /etc/defaults/pcmcia PCIC to be
> yenta to get that.

Now, I'm not really clear on PCIC & Yenta, because I never found 
anything in the docs, but I had it set to i82365 in kernel 2.2.x and it 
still worked after going to 2.4.x, so I've left it there (even when a 
pcmcia-cs upgrade tried to remove it).  i82365 won't load, and I get an 
error, but everything still works.



Feb 19 10:20:05 debian cardmgr[4880]: starting, version is 3.1.31
Feb 19 10:20:05 debian cardmgr[4880]: watching 2 sockets
Feb 19 10:20:05 debian cardmgr[4880]: Card Services release does not match
Feb 19 10:20:05 debian kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean.
Feb 19 10:20:05 debian kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean.
Feb 19 10:20:05 debian kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 
0x4d0-0x4d7
Feb 19 10:20:05 debian kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean.



That's all normal.



Feb 19 10:20:05 debian cardmgr[4880]: socket 0: Anonymous Memory
Feb 19 10:20:06 debian cardmgr[4880]: executing: 'modprobe memory_cs'
Feb 19 10:20:06 debian cardmgr[4880]: + modprobe: Can't locate module memory_cs



This seems to be a problem with your card - it's not reporting anything. 
So your system is guessing that it's a memory card.





cardctl gives:

debian:/usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.31/debug-tools# cardctl status
Socket 0:
  5V 16-bit PC Card
  function 0: [ready], [wp]
Socket 1:
  5V 16-bit PC Card
  function 0: [ready], [wp]
debian:/usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.31/debug-tools# cardctl ident 
Socket 0:

  no product info available
Socket 1:
  no product info available
debian:/usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.31/debug-tools# cardctl config
Socket 0:
  Vcc 5.0V  Vpp1 5.0V  Vpp2 5.0V
Socket 1:
  Vcc 5.0V  Vpp1 5.0V  Vpp2 5.0V
debian:/usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.31/debug-tools# 



---

My dmesg still reports:
... 

Yenta IRQ list 0c98, PCI irq9
Socket status: 3006
Yenta IRQ list 0c98, PCI irq9
Socket status: 3006



I get:


Yenta IRQ list 08b8, PCI irq9
Socket status: 3410
Yenta IRQ list 08b8, PCI irq9
Socket status: 3006

Maybe somebody else could explain whether the same machine should be 
reporting this the same or not - I would have thought so.


If this horrendous ODBC export I'm doing from a Windows/Access system 
onto my Linux/Oracle ever gets done, I intend to try playing with some 
of this.  But it's been 24 hours to unload a few hundred thousand 
records and I'm not risking it now :-)

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[Darryl L. Pierce]

Going into my BIOS and setting the "Operating System" option from
"Windows 95/98" to "Other" caused Linux to suddenly realize that there
are two more PC sockets! But, unfortunately, every PC NIC I've tried in
the sockets has failed, save one 3Com card that I borrowed for shits and
giggles. 

The NIC I normally use (3Com 3c575) comes up with a funky vendor &
device of 0x. I brought into work my spare wired card (D-Link
DFE-660) and it gets the same thing. But, my IBM v.34 fax/modem card is
detected just fine as a serial device as /dev/ttyS2. But, for whatever
reason, I can't get my 3Com to work in the sockets on the replicator.

Any guru guidance out there for this? =)
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XFree: LCD and CRT simultaneously

[Olaf Stetzer]

Hello list,

I just received a port replicator for my Notebook, so
I can use a normal mouse/keyboard and monitor in my
Office. It all works fine (having both displays at the same
time) but the timing (videomode) for the external CRT 
seems to be bad.
Now I am not sure how to configure XFree to have a good
display on screen (high refresh rate) and also be able to
use the LCD. Are there two sections in XF86Config-4 for
the two outputs or is the setting done by 
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 
only valid for CRT (modelines) and LCD works just fine 
with every setting?

Thanks for your help,

Olaf 

Specs: ati rage LT pro, Xfree 4.1 (sid), kernel 2.4.17
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Re: XFree: LCD and CRT simultaneously

[Jeff]

Olaf Stetzer, 2002-Feb-21 17:46 +0100:
> Hello list,
> 
> I just received a port replicator for my Notebook, so
> I can use a normal mouse/keyboard and monitor in my
> Office. It all works fine (having both displays at the same
> time) but the timing (videomode) for the external CRT 
> seems to be bad.
> Now I am not sure how to configure XFree to have a good
> display on screen (high refresh rate) and also be able to
> use the LCD. Are there two sections in XF86Config-4 for
> the two outputs or is the setting done by 
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 
> only valid for CRT (modelines) and LCD works just fine 
> with every setting?
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> Olaf 
> 
> Specs: ati rage LT pro, Xfree 4.1 (sid), kernel 2.4.17

I saw in a previous post that you need to add a second Monitor
section, so you'd have two, one for the laptop display and one
for the external monitor.  It'd look something like:

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier  "Laptop Display"
   HorizSync   60-70
   VertRefresh 50-90
   Option  "DPMS"

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier  "External Monitor"
   HorizSync   60-70
   VertRefresh 50-90
   Option  "DPMS"

Use the correct sync and refresh rates though.  

I don't know how it switches.  Perhaps the Indentifier is more
that a label.  Hopefully someone else on this list can shed some
light on that aspect.

jc

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Re: Dell Inspiron 2500 PCMCIA issues

[sageFool]

I think 2.4.X PCI support is just jacked.  I went and got 2.2.20,
setup the kernel the way I want it, installed the pcmcia-cs package,
fixed the module naming problem (wavelan_cs vs orinoco_cs) rebooted
and boop beep my card is regonized.  I haven't gotten a chance to
configure it yet since I'm at work and not at home, but still I'm
happy it works. :)

Re: New XE3, many questions

[Pavel Mihaylov]

> > I found it, and well it works better than the things I tried so far, but
> > still has some problems. Under X when I move my finger on the touchpad
> > and release it, the cursor goes on 'till it reaches the edge of the screen.
> will send you mine config later, the phenomenon you describe is due to
> "toss-something" setting which is ON by default.

here's my /etc/gpm-syn.conf

[use_wmode] Y
[corner_taps_enabled] N
[tossing_enabled] N

tossing was the feature I ment and it needs to be switched off. I also
don't need corner taps -- anyway I've got a middle button :)

Re: XFree: LCD and CRT simultaneously

[Gabor FLEISCHER]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 09:10:11AM -0800, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I saw in a previous post that you need to add a second Monitor
> section, so you'd have two, one for the laptop display and one
> for the external monitor.  It'd look something like:
> 
It was my post, but I couldn't use them at the same time. But if I include
both of them in the Section ServerLayout, then it autodetects (through DPMS)
when the external monitor is plugged in.
Unfortunatelly in my XE3 it can only use either the LCS or the monitor,
depending which started at boot time. Fn+F5 doesn't work either to change
them.

Floxi

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Re: Dell Inspiron 2500 PCMCIA issues

[Derek Broughton]

sageFool wrote:

> Hi, so I compiled the kernel with the PCMCIA/CARDBUS support turned on.
> 
> WHen I run ./test_setup I get:
> 
> debian:/usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.31/debug-tools# ./test_setup 
> Current kernel: 2.4.17 #6 Tue Feb 19 07:50:28 PST 2002
> /lib/modules/2.4.17/pcmcia/pcmcia_core.o not found.
>   The PCMCIA modules are not installed for this kernel!
...
> Module status:
>   No PCMCIA modules are loaded.


which looks bad. Maybe it's not necessary if you compiled right into the 
kernel, but here's my config settings for PCMCIA.

# PCMCIA/CardBus support
CONFIG_PCMCIA=m
# PCMCIA network device support
CONFIG_NET_PCMCIA=y
CONFIG_PCMCIA_PCNET=m
# CONFIG_PCMCIA_IBMTR is not set
CONFIG_NET_PCMCIA_RADIO=y
# PCMCIA character devices
CONFIG_PCMCIA_SERIAL_CS=m

Obviously some of your modules may be different.

In your message to me, you mention
 > It doesn't mention yenta because I have kernel PCMCIA turned off.  You
 > need to turn it on and change the /etc/defaults/pcmcia PCIC to be
 > yenta to get that.

Now, I'm not really clear on PCIC & Yenta, because I never found 
anything in the docs, but I had it set to i82365 in kernel 2.2.x and it 
still worked after going to 2.4.x, so I've left it there (even when a 
pcmcia-cs upgrade tried to remove it).  i82365 won't load, and I get an 
error, but everything still works.

> Feb 19 10:20:05 debian cardmgr[4880]: starting, version is 3.1.31
> Feb 19 10:20:05 debian cardmgr[4880]: watching 2 sockets
> Feb 19 10:20:05 debian cardmgr[4880]: Card Services release does not match
> Feb 19 10:20:05 debian kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean.
> Feb 19 10:20:05 debian kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0800-0x08ff: clean.
> Feb 19 10:20:05 debian kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x4d0-0x4d7
> Feb 19 10:20:05 debian kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: clean.


That's all normal.


> Feb 19 10:20:05 debian cardmgr[4880]: socket 0: Anonymous Memory
> Feb 19 10:20:06 debian cardmgr[4880]: executing: 'modprobe memory_cs'
> Feb 19 10:20:06 debian cardmgr[4880]: + modprobe: Can't locate module memory_cs


This seems to be a problem with your card - it's not reporting anything. 
So your system is guessing that it's a memory card.


> 
> cardctl gives:
> 
> debian:/usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.31/debug-tools# cardctl status
> Socket 0:
>   5V 16-bit PC Card
>   function 0: [ready], [wp]
> Socket 1:
>   5V 16-bit PC Card
>   function 0: [ready], [wp]
> debian:/usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.31/debug-tools# cardctl ident 
> Socket 0:
>   no product info available
> Socket 1:
>   no product info available
> debian:/usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.31/debug-tools# cardctl config
> Socket 0:
>   Vcc 5.0V  Vpp1 5.0V  Vpp2 5.0V
> Socket 1:
>   Vcc 5.0V  Vpp1 5.0V  Vpp2 5.0V
> debian:/usr/src/pcmcia-cs-3.1.31/debug-tools# 
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> My dmesg still reports:
... 
> Yenta IRQ list 0c98, PCI irq9
> Socket status: 3006
> Yenta IRQ list 0c98, PCI irq9
> Socket status: 3006


I get:


Yenta IRQ list 08b8, PCI irq9
Socket status: 3410
Yenta IRQ list 08b8, PCI irq9
Socket status: 3006

Maybe somebody else could explain whether the same machine should be 
reporting this the same or not - I would have thought so.

If this horrendous ODBC export I'm doing from a Windows/Access system 
onto my Linux/Oracle ever gets done, I intend to try playing with some 
of this.  But it's been 24 hours to unload a few hundred thousand 
records and I'm not risking it now :-)
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Getting close with the port replicator...

[Darryl L. Pierce]

Going into my BIOS and setting the "Operating System" option from
"Windows 95/98" to "Other" caused Linux to suddenly realize that there
are two more PC sockets! But, unfortunately, every PC NIC I've tried in
the sockets has failed, save one 3Com card that I borrowed for shits and
giggles. 

The NIC I normally use (3Com 3c575) comes up with a funky vendor &
device of 0x. I brought into work my spare wired card (D-Link
DFE-660) and it gets the same thing. But, my IBM v.34 fax/modem card is
detected just fine as a serial device as /dev/ttyS2. But, for whatever
reason, I can't get my 3Com to work in the sockets on the replicator.

Any guru guidance out there for this? =)
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XFree: LCD and CRT simultaneously

[Olaf Stetzer]

Hello list,

I just received a port replicator for my Notebook, so
I can use a normal mouse/keyboard and monitor in my
Office. It all works fine (having both displays at the same
time) but the timing (videomode) for the external CRT 
seems to be bad.
Now I am not sure how to configure XFree to have a good
display on screen (high refresh rate) and also be able to
use the LCD. Are there two sections in XF86Config-4 for
the two outputs or is the setting done by 
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 
only valid for CRT (modelines) and LCD works just fine 
with every setting?

Thanks for your help,

Olaf 

Specs: ati rage LT pro, Xfree 4.1 (sid), kernel 2.4.17
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Re: XFree: LCD and CRT simultaneously

[Jeff]

Olaf Stetzer, 2002-Feb-21 17:46 +0100:
> Hello list,
> 
> I just received a port replicator for my Notebook, so
> I can use a normal mouse/keyboard and monitor in my
> Office. It all works fine (having both displays at the same
> time) but the timing (videomode) for the external CRT 
> seems to be bad.
> Now I am not sure how to configure XFree to have a good
> display on screen (high refresh rate) and also be able to
> use the LCD. Are there two sections in XF86Config-4 for
> the two outputs or is the setting done by 
> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 
> only valid for CRT (modelines) and LCD works just fine 
> with every setting?
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> 
> Olaf 
> 
> Specs: ati rage LT pro, Xfree 4.1 (sid), kernel 2.4.17

I saw in a previous post that you need to add a second Monitor
section, so you'd have two, one for the laptop display and one
for the external monitor.  It'd look something like:

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier  "Laptop Display"
   HorizSync   60-70
   VertRefresh 50-90
   Option  "DPMS"

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier  "External Monitor"
   HorizSync   60-70
   VertRefresh 50-90
   Option  "DPMS"

Use the correct sync and refresh rates though.  

I don't know how it switches.  Perhaps the Indentifier is more
that a label.  Hopefully someone else on this list can shed some
light on that aspect.

jc

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Re: Dell Inspiron 2500 PCMCIA issues

[sageFool]

I think 2.4.X PCI support is just jacked.  I went and got 2.2.20,
setup the kernel the way I want it, installed the pcmcia-cs package,
fixed the module naming problem (wavelan_cs vs orinoco_cs) rebooted
and boop beep my card is regonized.  I haven't gotten a chance to
configure it yet since I'm at work and not at home, but still I'm
happy it works. :)


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Re: New XE3, many questions

[Pavel Mihaylov]

> > I found it, and well it works better than the things I tried so far, but
> > still has some problems. Under X when I move my finger on the touchpad
> > and release it, the cursor goes on 'till it reaches the edge of the screen.
> will send you mine config later, the phenomenon you describe is due to
> "toss-something" setting which is ON by default.

here's my /etc/gpm-syn.conf

[use_wmode] Y
[corner_taps_enabled] N
[tossing_enabled] N

tossing was the feature I ment and it needs to be switched off. I also
don't need corner taps -- anyway I've got a middle button :)


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Re: XFree: LCD and CRT simultaneously

[Gabor FLEISCHER]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 09:10:11AM -0800, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I saw in a previous post that you need to add a second Monitor
> section, so you'd have two, one for the laptop display and one
> for the external monitor.  It'd look something like:
> 
It was my post, but I couldn't use them at the same time. But if I include
both of them in the Section ServerLayout, then it autodetects (through DPMS)
when the external monitor is plugged in.
Unfortunatelly in my XE3 it can only use either the LCS or the monitor,
depending which started at boot time. Fn+F5 doesn't work either to change
them.

Floxi


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