Mouse under X

2001-03-21 Thread Andreas Tille
Hello,

usually Laptops have only two mouse buttons (near touchpad or something
else).  I noticed that under gpm at console the right button works as
paste and I like this so far (don't know why - havn't explicitely done
something to enforce this - but it's fine).
Unfortunately under X this isn't the case.  Under XF 3.3.? I used
emulate3buttons but wasn't very happy about that.  After installing
XFree 4.0.2 from testing I noticed that the emulate3buttons option
was not included in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 by the config utility called
via debconf.  Well, I think I can manage it using xf86config by
hand, but this isn't the question.
I wonder if there is any clue to use the damn Win-Keys on the keyboard
to toggle mouse behaviour (I have heard Mac-Users do so to cope with
the single mouse button - never used such a box).  Did somebody the
trick to get the following behaviour working:
   : mark
   +: paste
Currently my Win-Keys do nothing at all (whished I would have bigger
/ keys and no Win-key at all :-( - but if they are here, why
not using them).

Kind regards

Andreas.



Re: Mouse under X

2001-03-21 Thread John Miskinis

Hello,

I suspect you may not have the "correct" type of keyboard
specified in your XF86Config file...  I'm no expert on these
new keyboards with the funny "Windows?" key, but I
I remember seeing information a while back on the 102, versus
103, or whatever.  This funny looking key might start working
(or at least generating X keyboard events) if you try some of
the other keyboard "types".

When you used XFree 3, did the emulate 3D buttons work, and
YOU were not happy with it, but it allowed paste, etc.?  Or
was the SYSTEM not happy with it?

John



From: Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Debian Laptop-Liste 
Subject: Mouse under X
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:30:07 +0100 (CET)

Hello,

usually Laptops have only two mouse buttons (near touchpad or something
else).  I noticed that under gpm at console the right button works as
paste and I like this so far (don't know why - havn't explicitely done
something to enforce this - but it's fine).
Unfortunately under X this isn't the case.  Under XF 3.3.? I used
emulate3buttons but wasn't very happy about that.  After installing
XFree 4.0.2 from testing I noticed that the emulate3buttons option
was not included in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 by the config utility called
via debconf.  Well, I think I can manage it using xf86config by
hand, but this isn't the question.
I wonder if there is any clue to use the damn Win-Keys on the keyboard
to toggle mouse behaviour (I have heard Mac-Users do so to cope with
the single mouse button - never used such a box).  Did somebody the
trick to get the following behaviour working:
   : mark
   +: paste
Currently my Win-Keys do nothing at all (whished I would have bigger
/ keys and no Win-key at all :-( - but if they are here, why
not using them).

Kind regards

Andreas.


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Re: dhcp with pcmcia

2001-03-21 Thread Chris Halls
> >and I'm going to try dhcpcd and dhcp-client.
> >
>
> I had trouble getting both of those to work.  pump works just great for
me.
>

Erm, actually I have the opposite experience:  My 3com Megahertz 3CCFEM556BI
does not work with pump, either the Potato or Woody versions.  But dhclient
works OK with the card.

It's definitely Pump, not my machine configuration: I have a 3com 3c589c
that works with both pump and dhclient.

Chris



Re: dhcp with pcmcia

2001-03-21 Thread Steve Dobson
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 03:13:36PM +0100, Chris Halls wrote:
> > >and I'm going to try dhcpcd and dhcp-client.
> > >
> >
> > I had trouble getting both of those to work.  pump works just great for
> me.
> >
> 
> Erm, actually I have the opposite experience:  My 3com Megahertz 3CCFEM556BI
> does not work with pump, either the Potato or Woody versions.  But dhclient
> works OK with the card.
> 
> It's definitely Pump, not my machine configuration: I have a 3com 3c589c
> that works with both pump and dhclient.
> 
I had the same experience as you Chris.  dhcp-client works for my 3Com DF63C575

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Re: Mouse under X

2001-03-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, John Miskinis wrote:

> I suspect you may not have the "correct" type of keyboard
> specified in your XF86Config file...  I'm no expert on these
> new keyboards with the funny "Windows?" key, but I
> I remember seeing information a while back on the 102, versus
> 103, or whatever.  This funny looking key might start working
> (or at least generating X keyboard events) if you try some of
> the other keyboard "types".
Hmm, trying of those keybord types is less fun.  I started with 104
keys (because a "normal" keyboard (tm) has 102 and than there are
two keys more ...) but then X failed to start.  So I switched back to 102.

> When you used XFree 3, did the emulate 3D buttons work, and
> YOU were not happy with it, but it allowed paste, etc.?  Or
> was the SYSTEM not happy with it?
The system was happy and it worked.  But you might know the situation
if you are attempting to paste something and didn't pressed both keys
at exactly the same time.  Than you end with a new X-buffer and in this
cases your original text vanished anywhere (perhaps a new case for a
Murphy law).

Kind regards

Andreas.



Re: dhcp with pcmcia

2001-03-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Chris Halls wrote:

> Erm, actually I have the opposite experience:  My 3com Megahertz 3CCFEM556BI
> does not work with pump, either the Potato or Woody versions.  But dhclient
> works OK with the card.
> 
> It's definitely Pump, not my machine configuration: I have a 3com 3c589c
> that works with both pump and dhclient.
I havn't followed this thread but this notice might help perhaps a little.

After upgrading my perfectly working laptop (perfectly working = working
with DHCP in the institute and working with fixed IP at home) I had very
big problems.  The lesser problem was that I had to type pump manually
now in the institute (DHCP).  The big problem was, that my network was
unavailable at all at home.  After several hours I found out that I have
to do
ifup lo eth0
manually (and do this explicitely -  ifup -a didn't work either).  If
I did a /etc/init.d/networking start nothing happened, i.e. ifconfig
showed no output.  This is really strange and I havn't any explanation
for this behaviour.  Seems I have to do some research.

Perhaps you try this manually and get the same?

Kind regards

  Andreas.



Re: dhcp with pcmcia

2001-03-21 Thread Daniel Yoo
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Andreas Tille wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Chris Halls wrote:
> 
> > Erm, actually I have the opposite experience:  My 3com Megahertz 3CCFEM556BI
> > does not work with pump, either the Potato or Woody versions.  But dhclient
> > works OK with the card.
> > 
> > It's definitely Pump, not my machine configuration: I have a 3com 3c589c
> > that works with both pump and dhclient.
> I havn't followed this thread but this notice might help perhaps a little.
> 
> After upgrading my perfectly working laptop (perfectly working = working
> with DHCP in the institute and working with fixed IP at home) I had very
> big problems.  The lesser problem was that I had to type pump manually
> now in the institute (DHCP).  The big problem was, that my network was
> unavailable at all at home.  After several hours I found out that I have
> to do
> ifup lo eth0
> manually (and do this explicitely -  ifup -a didn't work either).  If
> I did a /etc/init.d/networking start nothing happened, i.e. ifconfig
> showed no output.  This is really strange and I havn't any explanation
> for this behaviour.  Seems I have to do some research.

How about /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart?  For me, I need to call that
whenever I want it to get a new ip address via dhcp.



Re: Fujitsu C-Series Lifebook as Debian laptop?

2001-03-21 Thread marcbecher
> I have a friend that has two Fujitsu C-Series Lifebook
> portables with 192Meg RAM. He would like to switch
> to Debian Linux.
> 
> Has anyone had success with this model portable?
> 
> Should I wait until 2.4.x kernel is out with Debian to
> switch him over?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Randy

On Lifebook C-6185 you need i2c-support for getting the application-panel
run. So, if your friend really needs that, take kernel 2.4.x.
All this stuff works:
ethercard
winmodem (lucent)
X running with XFree4.0.2
Irda (no FIR)

And everything else.
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ioctl problem

2001-03-21 Thread Jeff Coppock
Whenever I change scheme's I get the following message:

root-bash# cardctl scheme office
checking: eth0 ttyS1
Changing scheme from 'home' to 'office'...
ioctl: Operation not supported

The scheme changes okay and it registers in syslog as:

Mar 12 09:08:30 localhost cardmgr[165]: + ioctl: Operation not supported


I also see this ioctl error in syslog:

Mar 12 08:58:08 localhost kernel:[ext2_delete_inode+155/164] 
[ext2_put_inode+16/24] [iput+184/552] [__brelse+28/100] [__brelse+19/100] 
[ext2_unlink+399/412] [sys_ioctl+379/408] [error_code+45/52] 


I haven't found what this is about yet.  Can someone point me in the right 
direction?

thanks,
jc



Re: Mouse under X

2001-03-21 Thread Heather
> Hello,
> 
> I suspect you may not have the "correct" type of keyboard
> specified in your XF86Config file...  I'm no expert on these
> new keyboards with the funny "Windows?" key, but I
> I remember seeing information a while back on the 102, versus
> 103, or whatever.  This funny looking key might start working
> (or at least generating X keyboard events) if you try some of
> the other keyboard "types".
> 
> When you used XFree 3, did the emulate 3D buttons work, and
> YOU were not happy with it, but it allowed paste, etc.?  Or
> was the SYSTEM not happy with it?
> 
> John

Under X 3, in various configurators, it should be sufficient to tell it 
you have the "104 key keyboard" or depending on the tool, "Microsft Natural"
keyboard.

That declares 3 extra keys, rt-win, lt-win, and macro. (I think that both
win keys use the code AltGr to indicate which shifter bit they use. If
I'm mixing my console and Xwin logic sorry, it's been awhile since I needed
to worry about this)

If your machine doesn't have all 3 of the extras it's no harm.

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Mouse under X

2001-03-21 Thread Andreas Tille

Hello,

usually Laptops have only two mouse buttons (near touchpad or something
else).  I noticed that under gpm at console the right button works as
paste and I like this so far (don't know why - havn't explicitely done
something to enforce this - but it's fine).
Unfortunately under X this isn't the case.  Under XF 3.3.? I used
emulate3buttons but wasn't very happy about that.  After installing
XFree 4.0.2 from testing I noticed that the emulate3buttons option
was not included in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 by the config utility called
via debconf.  Well, I think I can manage it using xf86config by
hand, but this isn't the question.
I wonder if there is any clue to use the damn Win-Keys on the keyboard
to toggle mouse behaviour (I have heard Mac-Users do so to cope with
the single mouse button - never used such a box).  Did somebody the
trick to get the following behaviour working:
   : mark
   +: paste
Currently my Win-Keys do nothing at all (whished I would have bigger
/ keys and no Win-key at all :-( - but if they are here, why
not using them).

Kind regards

Andreas.


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Re: Mouse under X

2001-03-21 Thread John Miskinis

Hello,

I suspect you may not have the "correct" type of keyboard
specified in your XF86Config file...  I'm no expert on these
new keyboards with the funny "Windows?" key, but I
I remember seeing information a while back on the 102, versus
103, or whatever.  This funny looking key might start working
(or at least generating X keyboard events) if you try some of
the other keyboard "types".

When you used XFree 3, did the emulate 3D buttons work, and
YOU were not happy with it, but it allowed paste, etc.?  Or
was the SYSTEM not happy with it?

John


>From: Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Debian Laptop-Liste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Mouse under X
>Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:30:07 +0100 (CET)
>
>Hello,
>
>usually Laptops have only two mouse buttons (near touchpad or something
>else).  I noticed that under gpm at console the right button works as
>paste and I like this so far (don't know why - havn't explicitely done
>something to enforce this - but it's fine).
>Unfortunately under X this isn't the case.  Under XF 3.3.? I used
>emulate3buttons but wasn't very happy about that.  After installing
>XFree 4.0.2 from testing I noticed that the emulate3buttons option
>was not included in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 by the config utility called
>via debconf.  Well, I think I can manage it using xf86config by
>hand, but this isn't the question.
>I wonder if there is any clue to use the damn Win-Keys on the keyboard
>to toggle mouse behaviour (I have heard Mac-Users do so to cope with
>the single mouse button - never used such a box).  Did somebody the
>trick to get the following behaviour working:
>: mark
>+: paste
>Currently my Win-Keys do nothing at all (whished I would have bigger
>/ keys and no Win-key at all :-( - but if they are here, why
>not using them).
>
>Kind regards
>
> Andreas.
>
>
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Re: dhcp with pcmcia

2001-03-21 Thread Chris Halls

> >and I'm going to try dhcpcd and dhcp-client.
> >
>
> I had trouble getting both of those to work.  pump works just great for
me.
>

Erm, actually I have the opposite experience:  My 3com Megahertz 3CCFEM556BI
does not work with pump, either the Potato or Woody versions.  But dhclient
works OK with the card.

It's definitely Pump, not my machine configuration: I have a 3com 3c589c
that works with both pump and dhclient.

Chris


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Re: dhcp with pcmcia

2001-03-21 Thread Steve Dobson

On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 03:13:36PM +0100, Chris Halls wrote:
> > >and I'm going to try dhcpcd and dhcp-client.
> > >
> >
> > I had trouble getting both of those to work.  pump works just great for
> me.
> >
> 
> Erm, actually I have the opposite experience:  My 3com Megahertz 3CCFEM556BI
> does not work with pump, either the Potato or Woody versions.  But dhclient
> works OK with the card.
> 
> It's definitely Pump, not my machine configuration: I have a 3com 3c589c
> that works with both pump and dhclient.
> 
I had the same experience as you Chris.  dhcp-client works for my 3Com DF63C575

Steve

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Re: Mouse under X

2001-03-21 Thread Andreas Tille

On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, John Miskinis wrote:

> I suspect you may not have the "correct" type of keyboard
> specified in your XF86Config file...  I'm no expert on these
> new keyboards with the funny "Windows?" key, but I
> I remember seeing information a while back on the 102, versus
> 103, or whatever.  This funny looking key might start working
> (or at least generating X keyboard events) if you try some of
> the other keyboard "types".
Hmm, trying of those keybord types is less fun.  I started with 104
keys (because a "normal" keyboard (tm) has 102 and than there are
two keys more ...) but then X failed to start.  So I switched back to 102.

> When you used XFree 3, did the emulate 3D buttons work, and
> YOU were not happy with it, but it allowed paste, etc.?  Or
> was the SYSTEM not happy with it?
The system was happy and it worked.  But you might know the situation
if you are attempting to paste something and didn't pressed both keys
at exactly the same time.  Than you end with a new X-buffer and in this
cases your original text vanished anywhere (perhaps a new case for a
Murphy law).

Kind regards

Andreas.


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Re: dhcp with pcmcia

2001-03-21 Thread Andreas Tille

On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Chris Halls wrote:

> Erm, actually I have the opposite experience:  My 3com Megahertz 3CCFEM556BI
> does not work with pump, either the Potato or Woody versions.  But dhclient
> works OK with the card.
> 
> It's definitely Pump, not my machine configuration: I have a 3com 3c589c
> that works with both pump and dhclient.
I havn't followed this thread but this notice might help perhaps a little.

After upgrading my perfectly working laptop (perfectly working = working
with DHCP in the institute and working with fixed IP at home) I had very
big problems.  The lesser problem was that I had to type pump manually
now in the institute (DHCP).  The big problem was, that my network was
unavailable at all at home.  After several hours I found out that I have
to do
ifup lo eth0
manually (and do this explicitely -  ifup -a didn't work either).  If
I did a /etc/init.d/networking start nothing happened, i.e. ifconfig
showed no output.  This is really strange and I havn't any explanation
for this behaviour.  Seems I have to do some research.

Perhaps you try this manually and get the same?

Kind regards

  Andreas.


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Re: dhcp with pcmcia

2001-03-21 Thread Daniel Yoo

On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Andreas Tille wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Chris Halls wrote:
> 
> > Erm, actually I have the opposite experience:  My 3com Megahertz 3CCFEM556BI
> > does not work with pump, either the Potato or Woody versions.  But dhclient
> > works OK with the card.
> > 
> > It's definitely Pump, not my machine configuration: I have a 3com 3c589c
> > that works with both pump and dhclient.
> I havn't followed this thread but this notice might help perhaps a little.
> 
> After upgrading my perfectly working laptop (perfectly working = working
> with DHCP in the institute and working with fixed IP at home) I had very
> big problems.  The lesser problem was that I had to type pump manually
> now in the institute (DHCP).  The big problem was, that my network was
> unavailable at all at home.  After several hours I found out that I have
> to do
> ifup lo eth0
> manually (and do this explicitely -  ifup -a didn't work either).  If
> I did a /etc/init.d/networking start nothing happened, i.e. ifconfig
> showed no output.  This is really strange and I havn't any explanation
> for this behaviour.  Seems I have to do some research.

How about /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart?  For me, I need to call that
whenever I want it to get a new ip address via dhcp.


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Re: Fujitsu C-Series Lifebook as Debian laptop?

2001-03-21 Thread marcbecher

> I have a friend that has two Fujitsu C-Series Lifebook
> portables with 192Meg RAM. He would like to switch
> to Debian Linux.
> 
> Has anyone had success with this model portable?
> 
> Should I wait until 2.4.x kernel is out with Debian to
> switch him over?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Randy

On Lifebook C-6185 you need i2c-support for getting the application-panel
run. So, if your friend really needs that, take kernel 2.4.x.
All this stuff works:
ethercard
winmodem (lucent)
X running with XFree4.0.2
Irda (no FIR)

And everything else.
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ioctl problem

2001-03-21 Thread Jeff Coppock

Whenever I change scheme's I get the following message:

root-bash# cardctl scheme office
checking: eth0 ttyS1
Changing scheme from 'home' to 'office'...
ioctl: Operation not supported

The scheme changes okay and it registers in syslog as:

Mar 12 09:08:30 localhost cardmgr[165]: + ioctl: Operation not supported


I also see this ioctl error in syslog:

Mar 12 08:58:08 localhost kernel:[ext2_delete_inode+155/164] 
[ext2_put_inode+16/24] [iput+184/552] [__brelse+28/100] [__brelse+19/100] 
[ext2_unlink+399/412] [sys_ioctl+379/408] [error_code+45/52] 


I haven't found what this is about yet.  Can someone point me in the right direction?

thanks,
jc


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Re: Mouse under X

2001-03-21 Thread Heather

> Hello,
> 
> I suspect you may not have the "correct" type of keyboard
> specified in your XF86Config file...  I'm no expert on these
> new keyboards with the funny "Windows?" key, but I
> I remember seeing information a while back on the 102, versus
> 103, or whatever.  This funny looking key might start working
> (or at least generating X keyboard events) if you try some of
> the other keyboard "types".
> 
> When you used XFree 3, did the emulate 3D buttons work, and
> YOU were not happy with it, but it allowed paste, etc.?  Or
> was the SYSTEM not happy with it?
> 
> John

Under X 3, in various configurators, it should be sufficient to tell it 
you have the "104 key keyboard" or depending on the tool, "Microsft Natural"
keyboard.

That declares 3 extra keys, rt-win, lt-win, and macro. (I think that both
win keys use the code AltGr to indicate which shifter bit they use. If
I'm mixing my console and Xwin logic sorry, it's been awhile since I needed
to worry about this)

If your machine doesn't have all 3 of the extras it's no harm.

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Gateway solo5300

2001-03-21 Thread Jing Shi

Hello,  I just bought a used Gateway Solo5300 laptop and want to install
Debain for my work.  However, this laptop comes with minimum
documentation.  What I know is it's PIII600, 96mb RAM and 6GB HD.  The
screen is 12" and 800x600.  Anyone has similar setup and with successful
Debian installation?  Another question is the floppy and CD-ROM share
one bay and are hot swappable.  How does Debian support it?

Thanks in advance.

J. S.




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