"Open With" no longer guesses appropriate app
One of the many reasons I love KDE is because, when I "open with" a link in a web page using the context menu, it looks at the URL extension (if there is one) and offers me the choice of apps to handle that filetype. Or it used to. KD2.2 did, KDE 3.0 did, KDE 3.1 did. Very handy to view a file from a website where KDE doesn't have an ioslave for it - just right click, Open With, and select my favourite configured app. But KDE3.2 doesn't and KD3.3 doesn't - in the link context menu they always offer HTML editors whenever the current page is HTML. This is annoying, does it happen for everyone ? Konqueror as file manager gets it right, because it can go look inside the file before opening it. Clicking directly on the link works too, presumably because it gets the MIME type from the remote site. But I want to be offered the best-guess at the application in all cases ! :) Does anyone have this working (reasonable application being offered in the link context menu on khtml web pages) ? Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Knode killfile
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 04:14:31PM -0800, Liz Young wrote: > Maybe that's the problem? My filter(s) Score is "-9 <=" and I use the > default score (-10) on the articles I want to killfile. If I set it to > ">=0" it doesn't work, as you say. This doesn't sound like your problem, but it took me, literally, years to understand that the input is VALUE RELATION articlescore (secondrelation secondvalue). So if you want to kill articles scoring less than 0, you need to enter 0 >= not, as you might expect, <= Hope this might help someone. Despite loving KDE I don't touch knode because it completely lacks the "Do What I Mean" factor, but I've had to get somewhat to grips with it because my love likes GUI newsreaders. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to add a printer in kde-core Lenny
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 10:14:40AM -0400, Loeghmon T. Nejad wrote: > I am new to KDE 3.5 and I do not find "add printer" in the menu > system. Is it that printer installation is not supported in KDE-CORE > and it is required that I install additional more components? Do you have the print system menu enabled ? Right-click on the K menu then choose Configure Panel / Menus / Print System to check. Do you have CUPS installed ? kdeprint says it can use any of CUPS, lpd-ng or the traditional lpd, but I've only used it with CUPS so I can't say how well it configures the other two. If you run kcontrol directly and choose Peripherals / Printers / Adminstrator mode, doe the Add Printer dialogue there work ? Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: konqueror and flash
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 08:25:02PM +0100, roberto wrote: > hello, i am struggling to see videos and animations from within > konqueror 3.5.9 in kde 3.5.10; > > java/javascript is enabled but many sites tell me to download the > latest version of flash or change the browser What plugin does "about:plugins" tell you for MIME type application/x-shockwave-flash (the fourth column, in English it's headed "Types") ? Note there may be more than one plugin handling that type. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: konqueror and flash
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 08:24:46PM +0100, roberto wrote: > > What plugin does "about:plugins" tell you for MIME type > > application/x-shockwave-flash (the fourth column, in English it's headed > > "Types") ? Note there may be more than one plugin handling that type. > > sorry, may you point me more exactely to the place where this fourth column > is ? Hi Roberto, Open Konqueror and type "about:plugins" into the location bar. You should get a table with a summary of all installed plugins, and the MIME types they handle. The four columns are Plugin, Description, File(name), (MIME)Types. Following that table there is another table of Mime Type, Description, Suffixes, Plugin but I don't find that so useful. The first table, with plugin names/versions, is what I would look at to diagnose Flash problems - which are regrettably frequent due to the number of possibilities you can install. If you can help with telling which plugin(s) handle x-shockwave-flash on your system, I will compare it and see if we can come up with some ideas to try. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: konqueror and flash
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 07:40:32PM +0100, roberto wrote: > well: i can't see anything related to flash > infact i can see only four lines (pipes stand for columns separators), > the first being: > Java Plug-in | Java Plug-in KJAS for Konqueror | kjavaappletviewer.so | > application/x-java-applet - Java Applet (class) > application/x-java-bean - JavaBeans (jar) > > then two lines follow about Adobe Acrobat and then i find only one > line about Squeak; > no more Hmm, sounds as though you don't have a Flash plugin installed, or at least not one found by KDE. Do you have some package like flashplugin-nonfree already installed, as Raúl Sánchez Siles suggests ? The flashplugin-nonfree installer will put Adobe's Flash plugin in /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so. If you do have that package and file, then try resetting the search directories to "defaults" in Konqueror / Configure / Plugins and then do a "scan for new plugins". I have a memory that I had to do this some time ago, as Debian plugin locations moved around, and my old KDE installation didn't know the new directories. Hopefully it should show in about:plugins once installed and KDE has re-scanned. Let us know what you see if you try the above, Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4.4.3 upgrade eats 141 MB of /home
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 05:57:06PM -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote: > Allan Sandfeld Jensen wrote: > > Yes, the header contains the http expire date there is no other way to get > > it. Though I would have thought it would keep the statistics in memory > > instead of rereading it on every cycle. Are you sure that this isn't just > > on startup? > > In what memory? In KDE 4.3, kio_http_cache_cleaner is not a daemon. It's > started to clean the cache, apparently by kio_http, and it quits when it's > done doing that. > > That seems to be exactly what changed in 4.4: it's now a permanent daemon. Perhaps it should cache the state of the cache ... Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100520230215.ga21...@leverton.org
Re: Phonon and pulseaudio
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 07:18:48PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > Then I started playing my sound files, and opened kmix. In kmix, I right > clicked on the mplayer stream and clicked 'move to '. And then > by magic, music on the good speakers in livingroom, while still having > *all* other audio thru the crappy speakersin the computer. Aha, that's the secret of kmix with pulseaudio. Thankyou very much. It never crossed my mind that clicking on random labels on the screen might have useful effects ... Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120305132956.ga3...@leverton.org
Re: Trinity/KDE3
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:49:48AM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > On Wed, 22 May 2013, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > > On 2013-05-22, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > > is there a chance of ever seeing Trinity in Debian? > > > > I'm not going to invest 1 minute in trinity. And I think the rest of the > > team feels the same. > > Okay, thats fair. > > > So, you are free to do it, but don't come asking for help or guidance. > > Right. I wont manage something of that order of > magnitude, especially considering just how much > Im already involved with, but thanks for the > reply nevertheless. Trinity Desktop maintain their own Debian packages, if that is of any help to you. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130523102527.ga19...@leverton.org
Is this Konq 2.2 bug fixed in 3.0 ?
I apologise that this is a bit off topic for the list. Please could someone with Konqueror 3.0.2 or better have a look at http://www.leverton.org/innaturtle/ , and tell me whether it is possible to use the six links in the panel with bubbles in ? With Konq 2.2.2, I click but nothing happens. I need to know if this is now fixed, and I can't spare the machine to upgrade it to 3.0.2 myself at the moment ! Thanks Nick Leverton -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is this Konq 2.2 bug fixed in 3.0 ?
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 10:21:58AM +0100, Tom Badran wrote: > On Friday 26 Jul 2002 10:17 am, Nick Leverton wrote: > > I apologise that this is a bit off topic for the list. Please > > could someone with Konqueror 3.0.2 or better have a look at > > http://www.leverton.org/innaturtle/ > > Works fine Thanks very much indeed, Tom ! Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ugle background when starting kdm
On Thu, Sep 26, 2002 at 12:48:20PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > KDM of KDE 3.1 Beta 1 allows setting this background in the KDE > > control center under "System/Login manager". I dont know about the > > versions before. > > That appears after the X window background - there's a few seconds > delay > before that loads. I was looking into the same area yesterday, to see how to set environment variables up on entry to KDE. The very first thing KDE 2.x does on loading, in /etc/kde2/kde2.sh, is to change the X moire effect for a plain grey whilst it loads the configured background. However I've never seen it do this in practice so I suspect it is too slow on my lowly K6-200. Nick
Re: looking for MP3-PLAYER FOR KDE
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 05:21:21AM +1000, bob parker wrote: > On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 01:58, Nikhil Goel wrote: > > Noatun is your friend.. > > > Just installed it off the Woody CDs > All it does on startup is instantly segfault. > Any clues? apt-get install xmms xmmsarts Knocks spots off noatun as a media player, even without any of its many extra plugins. Nick ~ ~
Re: Changing KDM color.
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 10:18:52PM +, Paul Cupis wrote: > > On Thursday 31 October 2002 21:12, Sean Fraley wrote: > > > How do I change the color of KDM? The default gray is ugly and I really > > > would like to be able to change it, but I can't seem to find where. > > Whoops, I read KDE, not KDM. Run kcontrol as root system -> login manager and play :) Nick
Re: threaded view of html projects
On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 12:00:38PM +0100, Wolfgang Mader wrote: > i just have installed the konq-plugins and found a really good feature. > konqueror is able to show html code in a threaded way to me. this option > is calles DOM-Baum in german. > i wondered if this feature could be used for example in kate because it > would be very usefull at the time of writing html code. > if someone has found an editor providing this feature i would be pleased > to hear about. > thnx w mader Quanta shows a DOM tree (same term in English) for the current document. Nick
Re: why kde and gnome's menu situation sucks
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 06:16:26PM -0400, Luke Seubert wrote: > On 10/24/2002 7:59 AM, Josip Rodin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I agree -- and we shouldn't make them care, because what most people want is > > to get a task done, not fiddle about with how it gets done. > > > Agreed. The end goal is to have something that Just Works and is reasonably > easy for the newbie. > > However, as I stated elsewhere on this thread, there are some good technical > reasons to segregate by toolset. This is still a topic of debate and > discussion though, and I don't think it is settled. I'm with the "Want to group like tasks with like" camp, myself. But why not make it an Option[tm] ? Have a configurable bit in the menu program called "Flatten Debian" or something, which will fold any "/Debian" menu into the level above it. Nick
Re: why kde and gnome's menu situation sucks
On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 08:52:39AM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > I'm with the "Want to group like tasks with like" camp, myself. But why > > not make it an Option[tm] ? > > *smack* Sorry Mr. Fawlty ! > > Have a configurable bit in the menu program called "Flatten Debian" or > > something, which will fold any "/Debian" menu into the level above it. > > Do not make user preferences as an escape from actually making a decision. Why just make one decision when you can make two, though ? And isn't it All About Choice[tm] anyway ? ;-) > Surely working with the freedesktop.org vFolder standard and providing menus > for non desktop-affiliated software by default is infinitely more useful to > your users than yet another option (especially one that sounds so violent; > no, I do not wish to flatten my OS, thank you). > > :-) Seriously, I would actually like it if there were some commonality of grouping in the menu structure between different distros, so that I don't have to hunt through the menus to find things, every time I swap between the wife's Mandrake system and my Debian one. If that were possible, perhaps also under the aegis of freedesktop.org, I wouldn't mind half as much having to search an extra folder in each category ! Nick ;-)
Re: A couple of bugs with kde 3.1 under unstable
On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 09:17:34AM +0100, Albert Cervera Areny wrote: > If I write a local directory in the 'location' of konqueror when I hit enter > the toolbars disappear and the directory I selected appears in two views... > quite a rare thing... Anyone can reproduce? Sounds like the profile you have saved for local directory browsing. Have a look at the "view profiles" entries under the Window menu, at least that's where it is under KDE2. Nick
KDE3.1, libarts and libsdl1.2
I have a Debian Testing system here still on KDE 2.2.2, and I thought I'd do a dummy run (apt-get -s) before I upgrade for real to Ralf's 3.1/Woody packages, which are very much appreciated - thank you ! However I've got a bit of a problem which I thought worth mentioning. I have libsdl1.2debian-all installed, which depends on libarts. So upgrading to libarts1 removes libsdl1.2debian and hence a number of libraries, plugins and programs which, though not KDE programs, in turn depend on libsdl. Most obvious solution is to use a non-arts version of libsdl1.2debian (either oss or esd seem to be the choices), but though I don't have any ideological preference for arts versus other sound interfaces, it'd be helpful not to have to worry about it. Could libsdl1.2debian-arts and libsdl1.2debian-all be rebuilt for KDE3.1 to depend on libarts1, please Ralf ? Nick
Re: KDE3.1, libarts and libsdl1.2
On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 04:25:44AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > On Freitag, 24. Januar 2003 00:36, Nick Leverton wrote: > > be helpful not to have to worry about it. Could libsdl1.2debian-arts > > and libsdl1.2debian-all be rebuilt for KDE3.1 to depend on libarts1, > > please Ralf ? > > I'll have a look later this weekend because I'll be away until sunday night > from today on. It's not that urgent so please remind me monday if I forgot > about it by then. Hi Ralf, I know that you have been busy over the weekend and today, and I can perfectly well manage without this. I just wanted to make sure this doesn't drop right off the list, as it occurs to me that it may be needed by other people installing your KDE3.1 on Woody. "apt-cache showpkg libarts" also suggests a few other packages that depend on libarts, I don't know if you would consider them important though. Reverse Depends: zapping,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 xsidplay,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 rosegarden4,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 libcsl0,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 gstreamer-artsd,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 gstreamer-arts,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 gg-kde,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 ecasound2.2,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 zapping,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 vlc-arts,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 libwine-arts,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 libsdl1.2debian-arts,libarts libsdl1.2debian-all,libarts libao2,libarts libao0,libarts harden-localflaws,libarts 2.2.2-14 gg-kde,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 brahms,libarts 4:2.2.2-1 Nick
Download problems
I seem to be condemned to retrieve http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/kde/kdeedu/kiten_3.1.0-0woody2_i386.deb not more than 1024 bytes at a time, my connection hangs after that much is transferred, although I have downloaded the other 100Mb of KDE3.1 fine - by modem - over the last four days ! How can just one file be failing ? I've repeated the transfer of some of the others to check, and only this one repeatably hangs. Using wget is the same. Nick
Re: Download problems
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 01:25:12AM +, Nick Leverton wrote: > I seem to be condemned to retrieve > http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/kde/kdeedu/kiten_3.1.0-0woody2_i386.deb > not more than 1024 bytes at a time Got it now. Very strange, after almost a day of difficulty. Nick
KDE updates (was Re: KDE 3.1 Still missing sound)
On Fri, Jan 31, 2003 at 03:31:16AM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > I think I've fixed that already a week ago. You may need to update (which I > recommend since earlier builds of kdelibs are containing security holes, so > please update to the latest builds, the ones on ktown are identical to the > ones on the KDE ftp mirrors) Ralf, Many thanks once again for an excellent port, I installed KDE3.1 on Testing yesterday and I am very impressed with it. May I ask what the updates policy will be, will KDE be keeping the official KDE Debian versions up to date, or do you hope to do this from ktown/~nolden ? Also will the apps you've ported be kept up to date too ? In other words, can I keep your repository in my sources.list, with all the funky apps you have done, and just apt-get update as normal ? Nick
Re: Styles not working
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:33:23PM -, Andrew Ingram wrote: > > The other one are the QT libs. This has my stumped. Apt is holding back > libqt3-dev and libqt3-something else. If I want to apt-get them, I get > told it will remove about 200 things, including all of kde! What gives? I had something like this. Libqt3-something was depending on Libqt3-somethingelse which wasn't automatically up for inclusion for some reason. Doing an "apt-get dist-upgrade" let it sort it out. You could try that with a -s (simulate) option and see what that did ? Nick
Konqueror problems with Arial font
I'm running Ralf's ktown KDE3.1 under Debian Testing, and I have a problem with web pages which explicitly specify "arial" as the font. The problem is that ordinary text displays fixed at some default size, yet bold text displays at the correct size. http://www.leverton.org/test.html shows it up. Arial, as far as I know, is the version from msttcorefonts (though I do have Abiword installed). I also find that extended characters are displayed wrongly, for instance copyright (©) is displayed as the Spanish upside-down-questionmark and most accented characters come up as something else entirely. All used to be fine in KDE2.2.2. Other fonts than Arial appear fine. If I show the same pages in Mozilla (v1.0.0) then it displays fine. So I guess the problem may be in khtml's rendering in KDE3.1 ? Especially sinze Quanta also exhibits the same problem. Can anyone else reproduce this ? Nick
Re: Konqueror problems with Arial font
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 01:23:25PM +, Nick Leverton wrote: > I'm running Ralf's ktown KDE3.1 under Debian Testing, and I have a problem > with web pages which explicitly specify "arial" as the font. The problem > is that ordinary text displays fixed at some default size, yet bold text > displays at the correct size. http://www.leverton.org/test.html shows > it up. Arial, as far as I know, is the version from msttcorefonts > (though I do have Abiword installed). > > I also find that extended characters are displayed wrongly, for instance > copyright (©) is displayed as the Spanish upside-down-questionmark > and most accented characters come up as something else entirely. > > All used to be fine in KDE2.2.2. Other fonts than Arial appear fine. > If I show the same pages in Mozilla (v1.0.0) then it displays fine. So I > guess the problem may be in khtml's rendering in KDE3.1 ? Especially > sinze Quanta also exhibits the same problem. Can anyone else reproduce > this ? I've put up a test page at http://www.leverton.org/test.html which demonstrates (with screenshots) the problem. I'd be grateful if a few people could find time to look at it and see whether they also get the incorrect rendering of Arial under Konq 3.1 on Testing. Nick
Re: Konqueror problems with Arial font
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:25:11PM -0200, Michel Loos wrote: > > I've put up a test page at http://www.leverton.org/test.html which > > demonstrates (with screenshots) the problem. I'd be grateful if a few > > people could find time to look at it and see whether they also get the > > incorrect rendering of Arial under Konq 3.1 on Testing. > > Works perfectly here with official kde3.1 from unstable Thanks to you and everyone who tried it. I'll have to try and track it down then, this means getting to grips with Testing's font management I think (no fontconfig in Testing!) Nick
Re: Big update from Ralf's debs
On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 08:23:28PM +0100, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > I upgraded today after the last weeks Madkiss and I reworked the Qt packages, > then updated the necessary KDE packages from the branch, either where > conflicts are now properly made by Chris and Ben and where bugfixes went in. As always I'm very grateful for your packages, Ralf. However a dist-upgrade gave me the following: The following packages will be REMOVED: kdebindings-c kdebindings-java kdejava libkdec1 libqt3-dev libqt3-helper libqtc1 qt3-tools qtjava The following NEW packages will be installed: libqt3-headers qt3-dev-tools I think this might be because libqt3-helper is not in your update set, and the existing one depends on libqt3-mt =2:3.1.1+cvs.20021220-0woody1. Is that supposed to be the case, or is there something wrong with my package selection (I am running on an otherwise-normal Testing system). Nick
Re: KDE Usability survey
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 11:28:15PM +0100, Michael Schuerig wrote: > On Wednesday 12 March 2003 21:42, Frank Van Damme wrote: > > Second, It may not be the design goal to run on the lowest end stuff > > (like a system built out of Linux, Dietlibc, TinyX and twm or > > something :-) ), .. > > Current KDE works pretty well on machines that are more than 3 years > old. If anything, they'd need more -- and cheap -- memory. What more do > you want? Those are machines you can't even buy anymore. One of Linux's "selling propositions" is that it makes better use of the hardware and avoids the need for expensive upgrades. I think it's good that as much software as possible be made as slim and fast as possible. Or at least that the core framework (in this case KDE) be lean and fast, allowing users to install as much "bloat" as they want. And as part of that, it should be possible for a user to run any program, as well integrated as possible with KDE, if it fits their footprint better. I'd like the usability to go into this, into making a truly all-empowering desktop. Perhaps one could come up with KDE compatible drop-ins for, say, the GTK open/close dialogues ? Maybe load the appropriate ones depending on the WM ? That would be so useful, I don't know whether it's technically feasible :) That said, I run KDE3.1 here on a 200MHz 128Mb K6/2, and am generally reasonable satisfied with its performance as long as I don't have too many large applications running. The kernel, X and KDE loads in 96Mb for the base WM, which I think is better than XP. I think Microsoft recommend 256Mb, and their "recommends" is usually a bare minimum :) I just want to thank Ralf and all the others who have made all the latest graphical stuff available on Debian ! I'm passing the upgrades on to my friends who run Stable ... Nick
Re: KDE 3.1.1 for woody + updates
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 11:38:22PM +0100, FnScHy wrote: > If you had put up a picture like this showing you, I would have had no problem > with it. But I'm sure that you did not upload this wallpaper to > make a statement against prude or such. It would be to nice if you'd > replace Konqi by Katie (see http://women.kde.org upper left corner) to > make/set a sign for breaking up heterosexuality. > Anti-sexist greetings > FnScHy My wife says, "Why can't it be Konqui and Robbi Williams ?" But maybe Ralf would do, he's certainly a kde.god :-) Nick
Re: HELP: fonts antialiasing and gtk1.2
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 02:57:31PM +0200, Qerub wrote: > Vladimir Wiedermann wrote: > > > how can I configure fonts (for example in xmms) to get them > > antialiased ? > > mozilla and gimp1.3 and all qt applications have no problems > > with antialiasing .. > > You're probably looking for gdkxft. $ dpkg -p libgdkxft0 "Description: transparently adds anti-aliased font support to gtk+-1.2 *** THIS WILL CAUSE APPLICATIONS TO CRASH, DIE, LOSE INFORMATION, AND OTHER NASTY EFFECTS. DON'T USE THIS IF YOU WANT STABILITY ***" Same comment in both stable and unstable packages ... does it still apply ? Nick
kdemultimedia-dev versus libmpeg-dev
I'm running Ralf's KDE3.1 on Woody, and I want the ability to build packages on it. So I need kdemultimedia-dev. I also want to be able to track gimp1.3 for my wife, so I need libmpeg-dev as a dependency from that. Unfortunately kdemultimedia-dev names it as 'conflicts', so I can't do both ! Is there any way to resolve this, please ? Nick -- make: *** No rule to make target `war'. Stop.
Re: aRts and netscape flash plugin
On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 09:07:19AM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote: > > BTW is there any url for a flash6 deb known ? apt-get install -t unstable flashplugin-nonfree It's just an installer which gets the plugin from elsewhere, so it worked fine on Woody, all I had to do was get a slightly more up to date version of libruby from archive.debian.org. Nick
Re: kdemultimedia-dev versus libmpeg-dev
On Sat, Apr 05, 2003 at 09:25:46AM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 05 April 2003 01:23, Nick Leverton wrote: > > I'm running Ralf's KDE3.1 on Woody, and I want the ability to build > > packages on it. So I need kdemultimedia-dev. > In most cases you don't need kdemultimedia-dev. That's only true for some > very > rare third party apps. Most are fine if you install kdelibs4-dev. Thanks very much, Ralf. Nick
Re: kwrite loosing mouse pointer?
On Mon, Apr 07, 2003 at 03:29:16PM +0200, Bastiaan Naber wrote: > Yes, I have noticed this too. I experience it in Kate though. I find it > anying > because I used Kate about 40% of my time at work. And although it happens > only a few times I can only solve it by restarting Kate, which I don't like > if I have multiple files open. I have no idea when it happens, seems rather > random to me. It used to happen frequently on Quanta2.0 on KDE2.2, where one of the file tabs would lose the mouse pointer, and it could only be got back by closing and re-opening that tab (all other tabs remained OK). But I hadn't seen it at all since upgrading to KDE3.1. Until just this morning when I had a tabbed Konqueror open, and the mouse pointer disappeared in one of the tabs - again other tabs are OK. Unfortunately I'm not sure how to begin debugging it, I've never programmed QT or KDE ! Nick
Tiny mouse pointers after XF4.3/KDE311/QT312
Last night I upgraded my system (Sarge but still on libc6 2.2.*, as I am on a modem at the moment and can't afford to download the upgrades) using Ralf's debs for XFree4.3 + KDE 3.1.1. When I logged back in after the upgrade, my mouse pointers (both arrow, caret and wristwatch) have all gone very small, perhaps half the usual size, and appear to have a "drop-shadow" effect. This makes them very hard even to see, let alone to differentiate. How can I get my normal pointers back ? It may be a dumb question and I'm sorry if so, but I can't find any setting anywhere for it ! Nick -- http://www.leverton.org/ ... So express yourself ...
Re: Tiny mouse pointers after XF4.3/KDE311/QT312
On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 07:14:56PM +0200, Uwe Kerstan wrote: > * Nick Leverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [08-04-2003 15:47]: > > > How can I get my normal pointers back ? > > $ cat /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/index.theme > [Icon Theme] > Inherits= Thanks, that did the trick, the upgrade had changed it to "Inherits=whiteglass" - the icons were very hard to see. Nick -- http://www.leverton.org/ ... So express yourself ...
Re: debian/kde on a HP xe4100
On Thu, Apr 17, 2003 at 08:49:36PM +0100, Eoin Campbell wrote: > Normally it does work, but like i said the keyboard becomes completely > unresponsive. can't restart X or switch to a terminal Try upgrading X from 4.1 to 4.2 or 4.3, it sounds as if that may be freezing since the rest of the machine is still running. I found 4.2 much better for stability and bugs, and it's available for Woody by adding deb http://people.debian.org/~blade/woody/i386/ ./ to /etc/apt/sources.list. Nick
Re: Which Xfree86 For Woody/i386 ?
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 01:58:23AM +0100, Nick Boyce wrote: > > I see from www.apt-get.org that there are *many* options here - several > different versions of Xfree86 4.2.1 - one claiming to be IPv6-ready !, > and one described as "Branden's 4.2.1 backported to Woody" so I infer > that's as "official" as it gets - and then there's Daniel Stone's > backport of 4.3.0, but is this too bleeding-edge for fainthearts such > as me ;-) ? Been running Daniel's 4.3.0 just fine here for several months on two boxes, no problems at all. It works well with kde3.1.2 from kde.org as well. Nick
Re: SARGE: QT related KDE problems
On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 07:59:24PM +0200, Bernd Schubert wrote: > > *** 4:3.2.3-3.sarge.2 0 > > 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org sarge-proposed-updates/main Packages > > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > Ah thanks a lot, that did the trick! I missed that one needs an extra > sources.list line for the sarge-proposed packages. Sarge-proposed-updates is like on probation for Debian 3.1 r1 et seq. There are also 3.1 r0 security updates on http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main non-free contrib and I'm not sure if that always goes straight into proposed-updates (please correct me if wrong). Nick
Re: Bad looking fonts as root
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:44:25PM +0100, Michael Schuerig wrote: > On Tuesday 17 February 2004 23:13, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Leave them like that. 8:o) It'll keep you from running as root > > comfortably for longer than you have to. > > :-) I see your point, but I think there would be better ways to achieve > this, say a red frame around an app that's running with root > permissions in an otherwise "normal" environment. KControl does this > right. I keep the fonts different from my own, it's a useful reminder that the tool has a different home dir and user config files :) If you want to change them, doesn't running kcontrol as root set root's fonts ? Nick
Re: Konq - open in background tab
On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 11:39:38AM +0100, Marcus Thiesen wrote: > On Tuesday 09 March 2004 10:43, Andrew Ingram wrote: > > This seems to have vanished now! Is this a setting or option somewhere? > > Ok, this is my translation of the options, but you should be able to find > them. Konqui options -> something like "web behaviour" -> tabbed browsing -> > advanced options -> open tabs is background. That doesn't give you the choice you used to have, at time-of-opening. What I'd like to do is to have, say, middle-click open the link in a foreground tab, and shift-middle-click in a background tab. And maybe alt-middle-click open it in a new window :) The exact combinations aren't important, but I'd like to know if this is possible. Nick
Re: Konq - open in background tab
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:11:07AM -0800, Jonathan Byrne wrote: > > I agree. I found having the option of opening in a background tab or not to > be a very convenient feature, and I was very disappointed to find it gone. > My greatest single hope for 3.2.2 is that this feature be returned. I miss > it so much that I call its absence a bug. > > Lobbying campaign, anyone? :-) If someone opens a bug on it, I'll cast my vote :) Nick
KDE3.2.1 "use system bell" option doesn't work
I've just upgraded my system from Woody + KDE 3.1.4 to Sid + KDE 3.2.1. Now, the Kcontrol "System bell" option "Use system bell instead of system notification" has no effect. Since I have my sound card playing through the hifi, I have always used that option to prevent the PC from interrupting whatever was playing on the stereo. Now, in 3.2.1, I can't stop this happening, the option has no effect and all sound effects play on the sound card. I have restarted KDE (though you didn't need to in previous releases, anyway). Even a control-G echoed to a terminal causes a sound card beep instead of the PC speaker. Normal PC beeps do happen if I cause them at a text console. I know that I could go into the "system notifications" and turn them all off, but I shouldn't have to - and if I do, I don't get the bell feedback from my keyboard (for file expansion and such). Anyone else come across this ? Nick
Re: Konq - open in background tab
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:11:07AM -0800, Jonathan Byrne wrote: > I agree. I found having the option of opening in a background tab or not to > be a very convenient feature, and I was very disappointed to find it gone. > My greatest single hope for 3.2.2 is that this feature be returned. I miss > it so much that I call its absence a bug. > > Lobbying campaign, anyone? :-) The bug you need to look at is http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=63706. If you open an account on bugs.kde.org, you can then cast a vote for this to be fixed. The package author says removing it was a deliberate act, and has classified its return as a wishlist not a bug. I'd encourage anyone who is as seriously inconvenienced by his unilateral decision as I am to cast a vote for this to be fixed or, as he sees it, "enhanced". Nick
Re: KDE3.2.1 "use system bell" option doesn't work
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 11:49:02PM +0200, Michael Schuerig wrote: > On Sunday 04 April 2004 23:36, Nick Leverton wrote: > > 3.2.1. Now, the Kcontrol "System bell" option "Use system bell > > instead of system notification" has no effect. > > It's the same for me. The workaround I'm using is that in the System > Notifications for Konsole, I've set the "Bell emitted..." events to > execute the beep program. All other sounds are turned off. I've opened a bug on it, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79108 Nick
Re: Problem with matrix Screensaver
On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 06:27:42PM +1000, Caveman wrote: > Hi all, > > I seem to have a problem with the speed of the matrix screen save in kde 3.1 > debian testing. > > I was just wondering if anyone knew what was wrong ? Or have any ideas of > what > to try. ... have you tried setting the speed for it in the control panel ? Nick
Re: KDE3.2.1 "use system bell" option doesn't work
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 10:36:10PM +0100, Nick Leverton wrote: > I've just upgraded my system from Woody + KDE 3.1.4 to Sid + KDE 3.2.1. > Now, the Kcontrol "System bell" option "Use system bell instead of > system notification" has no effect. Last night I upgraded to 3.2.2. Now the above bug is still present, but in addition the Test button now produces no beep, although it did in 3.2.1. Anyone else able to confirm this ? Nick
Where taskbar menus popup
This sounds like a really minor quibble, but it's quite annoying. >From the dawn of time until KDE 3.2.1, when you had similar tasks grouped in the taskbar, and you clicked on the taskbar for one, the list of all those tasks would pop up just above the cursor, with no current one selected. If you let go the mouse, the menu stayed so you could look at it. I've just upgraded to Sid 3.2.2, and now, the list of tasks pops up exactly where the cursor is. If you let go the mouse, the bottom one is raised and focussed. This is a fairly big change in behaviour, does anyone else see the same ? Nick
Re: name sessions in konsole
On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 07:03:10PM +0200, Robert Lindgren wrote: > sure is possible: > > add something like: > PS1="\[\033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: \w\007\]\[\033]30;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL > PROTECTED]:\w] " > to your .bashrc This only changes it in the session title though, which AFAIK only shows up for the current tab. It's not even shown for the "switch to tab" tab context menu in 3.2. The only way I know of to get it into the tab, but statically even so, is to open that tab from your konsole bookmarks. You can put "ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]" as the URL, and the title comes from the bookmark. I keep track daily of about a dozen tabs on several konsoles, that way. Possibly it could be done via DCOP, if you wrapped your local /usr/bin/ssh in a script to do that, but I don't know sufficient about DCOP to say if it's so. Nick
Re: name sessions in konsole
On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 07:34:58PM +0200, Robert Lindgren wrote: > > This only changes it in the session title though, > > No it doesn't, it changes both the tabname and the session name. the first > escape sequence changes the session name, the second the konsole tab. It doesn't here, but it's clearly doing something to the tab (blanking it mostly), so it's probably my setup. I'm sorry, and I'm grateful to you for the information - something else to fix ! Nick
Re: Konsole & Tab Completion
On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 01:06:47PM -0400, Bob Tilley (AT&T) wrote:
> I am using a freshly installed Knoppix desktop as the Debian 3.0r2 install
> disks do not include the Broadcom 4401 driver. Does anyone know where this
> can be found?
>
> There is a curious idiosyncracy with Konsole: Tab completion works correctly
> for a user account but not for root. The user account can say "dir th"
> and Konsole will show "dir thank-you-note". After shift-right arrow into the
> root account, does nothing. Why is this?
In Bash, that shell function seems to be set up by /etc/bash_completion.
It's probably that root's .${SHELL}rc isn't calling it for some reason.
Nick
Re: mouse wheel
On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 04:09:14PM +0200, Thomas Ritter wrote: > Hi, > > I used to have ctrl as modifier, so that when I press ctrl and use the mouse > wheel, I scroll pagewise up or down. This still works everywhere in KDE, > except in Konqueror windows/parts. There, ctrl+mw resizes the font and > shift+mw scrolls pagewise. That's very stupid. Yes, it's yet another unadvertised UI change in a minor KDE release. I'm starting to get quite annooyed by them all in KDE3.2. Doesn't KDE have any overall control for the HCI ? Nick
Re: Kmix All the Time
On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 10:35:26PM -0400, Bruce Park wrote: > When I log in, the Kmix window is always open. Sometimes, I never even use > Kmix at all and this happens. > > I do have Kmix on my tray icon for ease use but this is getting to be a > very annoying problem. This hapens to me sometimes. To sort it, I use the kmix taskbar context menu to Show Mixer Window, hide it again, and then to quit kmix. I then start kmix by hand, it starts minimised and docks itself, and remains so each time in the future (until I once again close KDE with the mixer window open :)). Nick
Re: can't upgrade to kde3.2.2
On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 06:07:04PM +, Jean Darcoux wrote: > > When apt try to install kde-i18n-fr, I get this message : > > The following packages will be REMOVED: > juk kcachegrind kde-devel-extras kdevelop kdevelop-data I had a similar problem with kde-i18n-engb for a while. I'm sunning Sid now, and it seems to have gone. Are you on Sid or Woody ? I tried installing that package on Sid and didn't get asked any uninstalls. > I am using Testing Ah :) Testing is on the same version as Sid. It might be worth doing an apt-get update anyway. If you're running kde.org debs on Testing, mindyou, I can't answer for that. apt-cache policy kde-i18n-fr kdelibs4 juk kcachegrind kde-devel-extras kdevelop would be interesting to see the output of. Nick
Re: KDE 3.2.2 Sluggish
On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 03:40:20PM -0400, Sean J. Fraley wrote: > > famd is a daemon that monitors the different mounted filesystems that you > have > mounted and notifies other programs of any changes. This is what allows, for > example, Konqueror to automatically update the view of a given folder every > time a file is added or deleted. That way you don't have to explicitly tell > it to refresh the view anytime you want to see if any changes have been made. > > I personally find it pretty handy to have, but it's not absolutely necessary > for KDE to function properly. If you don't have famd, KDE polls the files directly. It's not a big overhead to poll a few files (which will be in cache), if you find famd's disadvantages are large - just try unmounting and remounting something (camera/memorystick for instance) you've opened in Konqueror that famd knows about. That said, I still run it, I just unload it every time it causes a problem (and never notice the difference). One day I'll uninstall it ... Nick
Re: screensavers can't be configured anymore in kde 3.2.2
On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 12:42:39AM +0100, Nick Boyce wrote: > > BTW I see there is another related-sounding bug already filed : > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=208769 > "KDE lists screensavers that aren't installed" > (filed in September 2003) > as well as Frans's > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=243150 > "Can't configure some screensavers any more" And http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=245894 "kcontrol: Cannot configure The Matrix screensaver" I raised it on that saver only as that was the only one I had problems with (KDE3.2.1). Now, on KDE3.2.2, I can't configure anything either. I'll go and have a look at your fix from 3.1 ... Nick
Re: XF86Config and restarting X
On Sun, May 30, 2004 at 05:51:19PM -0400, Robert Tilley wrote: > I have edited my /etc/X11/XF86Config file to include "1280x1024" wherever > screen sizes are mentioned. When accessing KDE RandR or the KDE Display > control panel, the only modes available to me are 1024x768 and lower. > > How can I restart X to reflect my new sizes? Control-alt-backspace is the most immediate way. Nick
Re: unstable: apt-get install cupsys
On Thu, Jun 03, 2004 at 03:39:33PM +0200, dekkker wrote: > Hi List > > I want to (re)install cupsys. On Sid ? It's been "held back" on upgrades for days now, and a forced install wants to remove loads of stuff as you found. I assume it and its dependencies/conflicts are not in a consistent state atm. Nick
Re: wall messaging on KDE
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 09:45:25PM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 'wall' is a *NIX command used to post messages to screens of all > logged-in users. It is commonly used to notify all current users of > eminent shutdowns. > > I need a means to also notify users running KDE. I am not sure how this > can be enabled in KDE or perhaps in X. Kcontrol / KDE Components / Service Manager. Enable kwrite daemon (which is for trapping "write" and "wall" output, nothing to do with the kwrite editor !) Nick
Re: libqt-mt => libqt3c102-mt
On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 09:44:12PM +0200, Henning Moll wrote: > Hmm, to all participants of this list: Which KDE backport for woody are > you using? Our Woody machines are still on kde.org 3.1.4. The 3.2 packages seem to have given people little but trouble, especially if installed on a system that isn't 100% Woody; and I make heavy use of various other backports. Nick
Re: KMail 3.2.3-1 instability
On Sat, Aug 07, 2004 at 07:45:28AM -0700, Brian Kimball wrote: > (I bound those keys to those functions so I can see what my newly > installed spamassassin is doing. I now find it kind of ironic that > since I've installed spamassassin I've never spent more time looking at > or been more curious about spam!) The plan is working, Emperor Ming. Nick
Re: Konsole bug?
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 05:43:59PM +0100, James Wells wrote: > On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 11:52:43AM -0400, Antiphon wrote: > > On August 31, 2004 11:22 am, Antiphon wrote: > > > I make a new tab and then when i go back to the old one, its contents > > > have > > > been cleared. This bug has been present since about 3.2.2 > > > > Am I the only one who's encountered this problem? Messed up Konsoles when > > you > > create a new tab? > > No problems here when I do Ctrl-Shift-N or select a new shell from the menu > at > the bottom left. Using Debian Unstable, Konsole 1.4 (Using KDE 3.3.0). I make a lot of use of konsole tabs in 3.2 (now on 3.2.3) but I haven't seen this problem. Nick
Re: Kmail logging
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 04:15:54PM -0500, Dennis Busboom wrote: > Is there a way to have kmail make log entries for mail that is sent? > Currently mail is sent from the client with the ISP's smtp server > specified which works fine. But there is no logging of outbound > mail this way, and the ISP won't allow smarthost/relayhost/etc > so passing mail through the local server, which would handle the logging, > isn't an option. I don't see how the ISP can know the difference between kmail sending directly and an SMTP daemon on your box sending. Unless they count received headers or something, but a simple daemon like qpsmtpd could be patched to remove them and just forward the remainder. And it (like as you say any smtpd) could be made to log what it had sent. I don't have a direct answer to your question though I'm afraid. Nick
Re: kde 3.3.x
On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 02:14:58PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > we don't expect anything to break, but if it does, better knowing > *before* the transition happens, right? Is there an easy way to see what installed packages (but only the installed ones) require kdelibs4 ? It would simplify upgrading only KD to sid - unless someone has a better way :) Nick
Re: kde 3.3.x
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 03:59:08AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > $ comm -12 <(apt-cache rdepends kdelibs4 | tr -d ' ' | sort) \ > <(grep-status -Fstatus 'install ok installed' -ns package | sort) > > other people may have more interesting suggestions as to how to > upgrade only kde, I've never had to do it. Thankyou, looks like it should work, I'll compare it with my guesses tomorrow and try it out :) Might need to make it "kdelibs4 libarts1" for the full KDE effect perhaps ? $ comm -12 <(apt-cache rdepends kdelibs4 libarts1 | tr -d ' ' | sort -u) \ <(grep-status -Fstatus 'install ok installed' -ns package | sort) Nick
Re: kde 3.3.x
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 04:18:56AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > $ grep-status -ns package -Fdepends -e "kdelibs4|libarts1" \ > --and -Fstatus 'ok installed' That worked really well, though I had to add the metapackages to the install line by hand as aptitude wanted to remove them. It might have sufficed to add just kde, I didn't think to try it. Also aptitude wouldn't automatically include kscreensaver-xsavers, so the final command line looked like this: aptitude install -t unstable $( grep-status -ns package -Fdepends -e "kdelibs4|libarts1" \ --and -Fstatus 'ok installed') kde kde-amusements kde-core \ kdeaddons kdeadmin kdeartwork kdebase kdeedu kdegames kdegraphics \ kdenetwork kdetoys kdeutils kdewebdev kscreensaver-xsavers The installation went smoothly though, I'll check out the third party KDE apps I use with it over the next few days. Thank you very much for the help. Nick
Re: kde 3.3.x
On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 04:53:28PM +0100, Frederik Dannemare wrote: > But this will also list k3b, kaffeine, digikam, showimg, kvim, kile, > gwenview (and probably other non-officials), since they all depend on > kdelibs4. Good point. So I now have Sid versions of all the unofficials, rather than Sid versions of main KDE and Sarge versions of the unofficials - which was what needed testing. Ah well. 3.3.1 seems noticably more responsive, and no major new bugs yet; it was worth the upgrade. Nick
Control-B in Konsole
I recently upgraded from KDE 3.2 to KDE 3.3.1. I run mutt and trn in konsole sessions. Mutt, by default, uses control-B to browse URLs out of emails - a very useful feature. However, since the upgrade, Control-B seems to be bound to a single-column bookmark editor of some sort. It comes up empty, so it is not the standard konsole bookmarks that you access from the application menu, because I have a lot of entries there. So, stright after boot, I try to browse the URLs in an email with control-B, and instead a KDE bookmark dialogue pops up. However, if I press control-V, it disables this feature and my control-B is no longer captured by konsole. I haven't tried yet if any other key will also let control-B pass through or if any other keys are affected. I can't find control-B in the konsole shortcuts to disable the initial behaviour. I can't find control-V either to see what option that is changing. I do have a workaround but I am very curious to know what is going on ! :-) Nick
Re: Control-B in Konsole
On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 01:19:05AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Nick Leverton [Tue, 21 Dec 2004 00:15:31 +]: > > I can't find control-V either to see what option that is > > changing. I do have a workaround but I am very curious to know what is > > going on ! :-) > > Ctrl-V is the standard key for escaping control chars. type in a > prompt: > > $ That works Ok normally, however for the first access after I log in the control chars don't get through to konsole. Unless control-V puts konsole into a permanent escape state. But I've just tried it by logging in newly on vt8, and it doesn't happen. So it may be something to do with control keys on first starting X, as it does only happen first time in. Still seems odd though. I'll experiment more next time I can spare restarting my main session :-) Nick
Re-enabling saving of form entries
How do I make KDE start remembering form entries for a site, after I've previously told it "never for this site" ? Running KDE 3.3.2 from Sarge. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re-enabling saving of form entries
On Fri, Feb 11, 2005 at 02:17:59PM -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > A) What does "man grep" have to do with this? > B) Isn't there a better way? > C) Even if there isn't, I can't see how that's relevant to any specific site. Twas clue enough, I should have thought to grep the config files. Quite a number of user KDE settings are hidden in them. It didn't solve my problem though, so there is some other reason why I'm not being offered the choice of saving passwords for one site only. I wonder if it's to do with kwalletmanager. I use that for my non-financial passwords, it's easier to remember different ones for different sites if KDE does it for me ! 'Scuse me while I go do some more cogitation and experiments and I'll come back to the list. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kdm - num lock
On Sun, Feb 13, 2005 at 01:09:13PM +0100, manu revah wrote: > > hello, > > i?m trying to get kdm to NOT activate numlock by default, i tried apt-get > remove --purge kdm just for fun and still when i reinstall it still > reactivates numlock. Does ControlCenter / Peripherals / Keyboard / Numlock on Startup do what you want ? A purge and reinstall would not alter that, which is one of your user's .kde settings. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the best way to safely remove kde apps?
On Mon, Feb 21, 2005 at 01:18:51PM -0400, Derek Broughton wrote: > It's a really hard sell to convince people to move to something like > aptitude when what they've got isn't broken... aptitude does have a command-line interface too, very like apt-get and apt-cache. Sadly, it still has the infelicitous tendency to remove wanted packages, even when they're marked as manually installed (I just checked that, following the hints on this list). Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New font defaults for new users - feedback wanted!
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 06:40:31PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: > Ok but I remember me having calculated the dpi of my monitors "by hand" many > times, so I think It would be nice to have some config tool done this for > me. It can't be to hard: during installation of x or kde the tool could > check if my monitor gives the data it needs to calculate automaticly, if > not just ask how many inches this monitor has and calculate the dpi by > given resolution. It can do that ! Put the DisplaySize in mm into your XF86Config-4 (this is my old 17", which doesn't do DRI so all the params have to be hard coded): Section "Monitor" Identifier "Lynwood CR17/2 Monitor" VendorName "CTX" HorizSync 30.0-65.0 VertRefresh 50.0-90.0 DisplaySize 324 238 Option "DPMS" Nick -- http://www.leverton.org/ ... So express yourself -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New font defaults for new users - feedback wanted!
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 05:22:11PM +0100, Nick Boyce wrote: > I realise you're only talking about default-setting here, but I've > noticed that KDE already looks a lot better at 1024x768 than at > 800x600 ... as if the higher resolutions are being "designed in". I am not sure of the dot pitch on my old 17"er but I think it is about 0.28mm. I run it at 1152x864 and just tell X the monitor size in XF86Config-4, it works out what DPI it needs from that. I can't find a prog to tell me what it's chosen but it is very clear (and this isn't normally the clearest of monitors). I like to sit between 2' and 3' from my screen (60 to 90 cm) as I am on this machine 14 hours per day work and play, and I find that I can read that perfectly at a font size of arount 8 to 10 points for most fonts. This last upgrade of Sarge font stuff has changed my sans serif font to, apparently, prefer Arial, however my beloved Bitstream Charter is still so readable as the chosen default font :-) If (as often happens) a web page has specified fonts that are just too small, then control-mousewheel over the konqui instance makes them bigger - I don't even have to squint ! Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KMix popping up with every KDE login
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 02:10:29PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > On several KDE installations including KDE 3.3.1/3.3.2 and KDE 3.4 pre on > every login the KMix window pops up. I did not yet found a way to stop this > behaviour. I just like that KMix puts itself as loudspeaker symbol into the > Kicker bar and be quiet otherwise. > > Any hints? I found that this will make it behave: Close the mixer window, leaving only the one in the system tray. Now close the kmix in the system tray: it will now remember that it was minimised. Run kmix again, it will come up in the system tray only for now and for future restarts. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
alt-tab behaviour changed
If I use Alt-Tab to switch to another program, KDE now prefixes the list of program names with the desktop name, e.g. "Desktop 1: konsole". This is blooming annoying as it's just noise, cluttering the alt-tab display and making it harder to scan it for the program I want, when every item in the list is now called "Desktop". I don't care which desktop I left the program on, why does KDE insist on cluttering the list ? KDE desktop settings are split across so many different config screens, that I can't even tell if there's a way to turn off the prefix to the task list - if there is then please be gentle and just tell me how ! Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kvim broken in alioth
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 08:05:59PM +0200, Robert Lindgren wrote: > > > all the kvim authors moved over to kyzis (already working better then kvim > > ever did IMO). see www.yzis.org, they have deb packages available. > > Could you specify what is better with yzis compared to kvim? I can't find > anything that is better. I'd certainly like to know. Neither yzis nor kyzis works when filled into the Vim component selection of kcontrol. I get an error "your Vim does not propvide any GUI support". ii kyzis 20050526-1 KDE Frontend for the Yzis editor ii kcontrol 3.3.2-1KDE Control Center Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kvim broken in alioth
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 11:24:10PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > On Friday 27 May 2005 23:18, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > > Kyzis works as kpart conforming to the texteditor interface > > -> you need to set it as the preferred component for embedded viewing of > > whatever mime-type you want to open in it. > > -> it also works in e.g kdevelop Aha, thank you for the tip. How do I configure it when it's used as a kpart though ? It doesn't add its entry to the Konqi settings menu, the standalone program doesn't change the kpart, and its idea of a colour schema is ... well, not readable on my desktop. And nyzis displays in white-text-on-white, which is even less useful. > general integration with the rest of kde is IMO also an area where kyzis > shines in comparison with kvim On a quick test, it falls down badly on both keystroke compatibility and command usability. I could possibly get used to its implementation of vi commands (after all I did start on vi many years before I got used to the power of vim), but yzis seems very buggy, either that or it has more differences than those detailed on the web site. If you can point me at a bugzilla or similar I'll go and enter what I've found. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kvim broken in alioth
On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 08:00:05PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote: > cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote: > >> It doesn't add its entry to the Konqi settings menu, > >> the standalone program doesn't change the kpart, > > I think it's supposed to work the way you guessed (wich would make these > > bugs) > > It is not in Konqui's settings, but go to Control Panel/KDE > Components/Setting KDE Components. I only have a dropdown to choose the text editor component, no option to configure that component. Kate does, and (IIRC, don't have it installed at the moment) Kvim used to, give a config item in the menus of whatever they were embedded in. But I can't see a way to configure embedded yzis. ii kcontrol 3.3.2-1KDE Control Center ii kyzis 20050526-1 KDE Frontend for the Yzis editor Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome imperialism
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 03:35:48PM +0200, Rigo Wenning wrote: > I wanted to upgrade my KDE 3.4-pre to 3.4.1. I open aptitude, update the > packages list after having changed the sources list to alioth > 3.4.1-location. > > Now I tell aptitude to upgrade and it removes ALL KDE and installs all > Gnome. What is the magic dependency program that I have to remove to > stop this implicit gnome imperialism? I mean Gnome/KDE should run > together and not fight each other. Is this too difficult to express in > the deb package-format? The message in aptitude is quit funny: > "Packages being removed because they are no longer used" Aptitude knows which packages were installed manually and which were just added because of dependencies. If this is the first time you've used aptitude, it might be as simple as doing "aptitude install kde" to tell it that the kde metapackage is wanted. That will then hold the rest of KDE in. More probably, however, there may be some package in gnome that Conflicts with some package in KDE. That will then cause part of kde to be removed as a conflict, and the rest will then be unreferenced by any dependencies so aptitude will think they are unused. I never use the aptiude GUI, only its command line, but I expect there will be a way for you to see the error messages. Look for the earliest error, it probably holds the answer. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD-ROM eject
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 08:30:15PM +0300, Andrey Andreev wrote: > Are you trying to eject while Konqueror has the devices tree open? > That's what I sometimes do and it fails miserably. Try closing all > Konquerors and eject then. And probably (as root) /etc/init.d/famd stop if you're using any sort of automounting. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: konqueror with gecko
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 11:45:09PM -0400, Matej Cepl wrote: > Hasso Tepper wrote: > >> One feature I like better on mozilla than konqueror is the "type ahead > >> find" .. it can save a lot of mouse clicks for those of us with sore > >> wrists. I haven't found a way to duplicate that on konqueror yet. > > > > Press / and look at statusbar. > > How do you do "search next occurrence of the string" (something like > repeated pressing of Ctrl-Alt-F/Ctrl-S in Kwrite/Emacs)? Press F3 (KDE's usual "find next occurrence "). Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: menu item "Start New Session"
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 06:40:33PM +0100, Amarok wrote: > Hi > > I use to have the item "Start New Session" on KDE and now it's gone sinse I > upgraded to 3.4.1 > I can see that there is some things changed on this new kde, and now I can't > start new sessions on other screen. > > How can I put the menu item back ? You need to enable sessions in the Session Manager in the Control Panel. I can't remember which combination of options gives it but it's been mentioned on this list, a few months ago - have a search in the archives. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrading KDE and it's dependencies
On Thu, Jul 07, 2005 at 09:37:17AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Alejandro Exojo wrote: > > El Miércoles, 6 de Julio de 2005 02:40, Bob Proulx escribió: > > > What answer do you choose? What are your follow-up actions? Please > > > be specific. > > > > 1. aptitude > > Unfortunately that brings up an interactive GUI. I have far too many > machines to interactively babysit each and every one of them > uniquely. It is just not practical. It also takes the same parameters as apt-get (as you show down below), in which case it doesn't bother with the gui. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde 3.4.1
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 02:57:41PM +0200, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda wrote: > Hi, I don't understand it. On sunday evening I did an upgrade and installed > kde3.4.1 _without_ any problem. Are you sure what are you saying? Maybe it > works for amd64 and not for i386... Works nicely for i386 as well. Though the upgrade was a bit of a pain because I forgot the advice from this list a couple of months ago, about some packages to uninstall first ! Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: half duplex
On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 11:51:23AM +0100, larinia wrote: > Hello, > > I saw the half duplex message in the /var/log/syslog. I am not sure if > the cat-5 cable is the network cable(Sorry, I am a newbie), if it is, > then it is connecting to a hub, which is then connect to a wireless bridge. Run "mii-tool -v" and see what it says. It doesn't work on all network adaptors, I'm especially unsure about the embedded type you get in laptops. But if it works, the "link partner" line will tell you whether the hub can do full-duplex, and if you paste the output here we can see if there's anything wrong. Please either keep debian-kde in or CC me directly, thank you Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: half duplex
On Fri, Jul 29, 2005 at 10:13:41PM +0100, Lei Yu wrote: > I have done "mii-tool -v", here is the outcome > *snips* > link partner: 100baseTx-HD 10baseT-HD > > I think the hub does support full duplex. It is netgear dual speed hub model > DS104. The hub is telling your eth0 that it doesn't - only half duplex (HD), at 100 Mbits or 10 Mbits. To find out if it actually does FD, you can try forcing full duplex temporarily with "mii-tool -F 100baseTx-FD eth0". Watch the output from "ifconfig eth0" to see if the Errors or Collisions start going wild, which will indicate that the hub doesn't do full duplex. Having said that, Amazon have the manual online, linked in from http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0J4LQ/002-4342910-3697617?v=glance and the Troubleshooting section says to ensure the conected PC is set to half dulpex, so it looks like the hub is only HD I'm afraid. Regrets, Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: konqueror + save webpages
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 06:48:40PM +0200, serja wrote: > When saving webpages for example with Firefox it also create a xxx_files > folder, which contain the images, etc. for the saved webpage, but Konqueror > only save the webpage itself. Can it be modified? > Thanks in advance! > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.leverton.org/ ... So express yourself -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: konqueror + save webpages
On Wed, Aug 17, 2005 at 06:48:40PM +0200, serja wrote: > When saving webpages for example with Firefox it also create a xxx_files > folder, which contain the images, etc. for the saved webpage, but Konqueror > only save the webpage itself. Can it be modified? Sorry about the blank message - I hate laptop keyboards :( Have a look at the "Archive Page" option under the Tools menu. It's not exactly what you asked for, but it does put the page and all its images into one .tar.gz (which it names as .war instead, but it's still a tarfile). Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kurios About Kaffine, Koffice, & Kompose
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 06:01:24PM +0200, David Martínez Moreno wrote: > fakeroot did not manage to build only one package in this time: > mozilla. Its > build system was broken, and it was needed to build as root (due to a some > file opertaion only able to do as root, if I recall right). So please do not > spread false information. ;-) Fakeroot had problems with some packages on some filesystems (e.g. building nullmailer on Reiserfs) back in Woody days, but that was fixed some time ago. I've built dozens of other packages before and since without any trouble. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Up-to-date SID, configuring context menu?
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 09:32:10PM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > Anyway, where in KDE 3.4.2 is the option to edit the right-click > "context menu" for Konqueror and the desktop? > There also used to be a "Open link in background tab" option, > which was lost some version or two ago, and I would like to be > able to put that back in the context menu also. Alas you only have "open in new tab" on the context menu these days. Whether this opens a foreground or background tab is hidden away behind the "advanced" button of the "web behaviour" section of konqui's settings. You can also set "Open links in new tab" in konqui's Web Behaviour, and then middle-click on the link to open it in a tab. It will be a background tab if you lean on the shift key, and a foreground one if you don't. Not so useful for KDE users with fewer hands than average, but fortunately I have two! The upstream are keen on removing what they view as menu bloat, but unfortunately it's at the cost of making some things harder for experienced or "power" users. However! It's possible to add your own menu entries back by creating a .desktop file. They can include DCOP calls so you can probably even add an "open in background tab" to the Action context. Here's one I wrote to rotate any image/* in konqui using Imagemagick: /usr/local/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus/imageRotate.desktop [Desktop Entry] ServiceTypes=image/* Actions=rotateImgLeft;rotateImgRight [Desktop Action rotateImgLeft] Name=Rotate 90° Anticlockwise Icon=rotate_ccw.png Exec=mogrify -rotate -90 %F [Desktop Action rotateImgRight] Name=Rotate 90° Clockwise Icon=rotate_cw.png Exec=mogrify -rotate 90 %F Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thanks
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:56:22AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Add my second as thanks to the team. I transitioned to 3.4.2 a bit > over a week ago and it has been a typically smooth Debian upgrade. > > Your hard work is much appreciated. The quality of the packaging is shown in how easily they backport to Sarge, too. Just change the Requires: back in debian/control, bump the changelog and they work! ii kde-i18n-engb 3.3.2-2British English (en_GB) internationalized (i ii kdeaddons 3.4.2-1njl.2 add-on plugins and applets provided with KDE ii kdeadmin 3.4.1-1system adminstration tools from the official ii kdeartwork 3.4.1-1themes, styles and more from the official KD ii kdebase3.4.1-1base components from the official KDE releas ii kdeedu 3.3.2-3educational apps from the official KDE relea ii kdegames 3.4.1-1KDE Games metapackage ii kdelibs3.4.2-2njl.3 core libraries from the official KDE release ii kdemultimedia 3.4.1-1multimedia apps from the official KDE releas ii kdenetwork 3.4.1-1network-related apps from the official KDE r ii kdepim 3.4.1-1KDE Personal Information Management metapack ii kdeprint 3.4.1-1print system for KDE ii kdetoys3.4.1-1toys from the official KDE release ii kdeutils 3.4.1-1general purpose utilities from the official ii kdewebdev 3.4.2-0njl.1 web development apps from the official KDE r Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE 3.4.2 backport now?
On Sat, Sep 24, 2005 at 10:33:49PM +0400, Mikhail Ramendik wrote: > ? ? ?? 24 2005 22:27 Serge Koganovitsch ???(a): > > > > deb ftp://ftp.ekhis.org/ekhis/ backports main > > deb-src ftp://ftp.ekhis.org/ekhis/ backports main > > I've checked, but these seem incomplete (some packages, for example kdepim, > are from 3.4.0). Am I wrong somewhere? For my part, kdepim 3.4.2 is the other package I had compile errors in. But I think that's my PC's fault, as I have similar problems compiling kernels on it. This coming week I'm going to set up pbuilder on a faster machine which I know has no compile problems, and try again. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kmail corrupts emails [solved]
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 06:26:29PM +0200, Rigo Wenning wrote: > Thanks a lot, will do too, > > but it remains that I need allies in convincing KMail developers to use > their index only for caching and not for valid information. Valid info > should be written back to the maildir and KMail should not complain > when opening a maildir touched by another agent. You could open a bugzilla change request and get us all to vote for it ! It's the major reason why I don't use kmail, even though I love the rest of KDE. Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kmail corrupts emails
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 08:51:23PM +0200, Theo Schmidt wrote: > Do these problems also apply to Thunderbird, do you think, Nick? I have > just switched to this even though I prefer kmail to Thunderbird, because > I don't trust kmail any more for the mbox format and am not yet ready to > switch to maildir (using ext3 and not reiserfs). (I hope asking this > question isn't heresy on this list.) I don't find the choice of filesystem makes a major difference to personal mail, if you're not running a big mail hub :-) Reiser would be better if you're running maildirs with more than, say, a thousand messages (finger in the air figure :-)) but I found that Mutt is a couple of seconds slower to open a large mailbox when it's 3000 files rather than one. I user Reiser here because it's good at recovering from crashes, there's no lost+found on a Reiser filesystem cos files don't get lost! I prefer maildir though as it's much quicker for Mutt to write the 'read' status and any other changes you make, such as re-threading or deleting large attachments. Kmail is also good for this as you can filter stuff to your heart's content, into loads of not-so-large maildirs. It's not hard for a programmer to lock a mailbox against conflicting changes even if it is all one mbox, anyway. Mutt manages its mail by modifying private headers and I think trad Unix mail tools do the same. I think Netscape Mail as well, and hence presumably Thunderbird does. Pine keeps its status in a special first mail, which can confuse people when they read it with anything else. I think kmail's a pretty good mailer, but it lacks a way to interwork when I want to mail from the command line. I tend to leave kmail running on the main mailbox so that filters can redirect stuff. Mutt, at least, also can't (AFAIK) read kmail's maildir format, indexes or no ! I only wonder if there's an issue with mailboxes on remote servers. If you can only RETR or DELE a mail, you kind of need an outside index :-) Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scanners.
On Sun, Oct 09, 2005 at 12:23:20PM -0400, Huston wrote: > I am using a Scanjet 4200c scanner. Sane doesn't list it as being > supported at this time. How do I get it to work? Does the Scanjet 4200 driver in libsane-extras drive it ? Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KOffice 1.4.2 available
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 11:20:58PM +0200, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: > Being a bit tungue in cheek here.. :) Seems like every new kde version lately > has brought us a new painting app. Also tongue in cheek, but it seems like painting apps are the same as media apps - everybody thinks they can write one better than all the rest, and everybody gives up sometime around the point that they hack their favourite feature into an otherwise awkward and incomplete program ... Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Koffice 1.4.2 available for Sarge
On Sun, Nov 20, 2005 at 10:35:53AM -0600, Bud Rogers wrote: > ~$ /usr/bin/kword > koffice (lib kofficecore): WARNING: libkformula.so.3: cannot open shared > object file: No such file or directory > ~$ > ~$ dlocate libkformula.so.3 > koffice-libs: /usr/lib/libkformula.so.3.0.0 > koffice-libs: /usr/lib/libkformula.so.3 It might be worth checking that that second link is pointing correctly. Do 'ls -l /usr/lib/libkformula.so.3' and then 'ls -lL /usr/lib/libkformula.so.3' The first should point to the second, and the second should come back with a real file, not an error. If that looks OK, maybe strace can show what error kword is getting. I'll figure out the command line while you do the above, if it's not solved yet ? Nick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
