audiocd protocol yet again
Hello, I've seen that it has been asked before, but still I don't get the "audiocd:/" protocol to work. I get the error message "The file of directory / does not exist." I'm using ide-scsi and the sg module is loaded. It doesn't make a difference for this error message, whether /dev/sg0 is readable or not. Also, XMMS does work. I'm using an automounter for /cdrom (symlinked to /var/autofs/cdrom/cdrom), but this should not interfere. Any hints where I may look for causes? Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
Re: audiocd protocol yet again
On Thursday 26 July 2001 00:50, Data wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2001 at 11:25:11PM +0200, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've seen that it has been asked before, but still I don't get the > > "audiocd:/" protocol to work. I get the error message "The file of > > directory / does not exist." I'm using ide-scsi and the sg module > > is loaded. It doesn't make a difference for this error message, > > whether /dev/sg0 is readable or not. Also, XMMS does work. I'm > > using an automounter for /cdrom (symlinked to > > /var/autofs/cdrom/cdrom), but this should not interfere. > > I was having this same problem. I discovered that Paranoia uses > _two_ devices to work its magic. So, if your CD-ROM is on /dev/scd0, > Paranoia will want to use /dev/sg0 also. Permissions for both must, > of course, allow you read/write access. On my system, it was the sg > device that I couldn't get to; I changed its group to cdrom, which is > probably not completely kosher, but it works :) Ah, read and _write_ access! I had only used group cdrom and g=r access for sg0. Now it works. Well cddb lookup doesn't seem to work, but that I'll figure out. Thanks! Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
Packaging
I've sloppily packaged some KDE apps for private use. So far, I've done it with just dh_make and dpkg-buildpackage. Now I've also found the adapted scripts contained in kdelibs-dev. Unfortunately, doing it either way, packaged/installed files end up in the wrong place. I haven't figured out what's happening exactly, but the various prefixes are ignored and files in the package end up in /bin, /lib, /share, ... instead of in /usr/bin, /usr/lib, /usr/share, ... Does anyone have an idea what's up and what I can do against this? So far I've worked around it by tinkering with prefix and exec_prefix for make install, but that's not a robust solution. Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
Packaging, debianrules, make install
I'm slowly trying to get into creating debian packages and in particular for KDE apps. What I've found is that those pesky apps all the time try to install shared libs in /usr/local/libs/kde2. This is affected by kde_moduledir, a setting that is not yet set to a directory that's appropriate for debian in admin/debianrules. I suggest that this setting is added. Unfortunately, I don't know whom to suggest this too... Also, and this is debian-specific, in debian/rules in the install target, make install should be called with the DESTDIR set to the temporary packaging dir instead of using prefix for this purpose. Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
Shared libs, moduledir
I'm somewhat confused by all the places where shared libs (can) go. The KDE debs put some (all? or only "modules"?) shared libs in /usr/lib/kde2. KDE tarballs and projects created with KDevelop to put them in /usr/local/lib/kde2. My /etc/ld.so.conf contains neither /usr/lib/kde2 nor /usr/local/lib/kde2, but the libs in the former directory are found nevertheless. Libs in the later directory aren't found, even after I added it to /etc/ld.so.conf (and ran ldconfig). I'm somewhat confused, I must admit. Apparently, my understanding of dynamic linking, among other things, is lacking. :-( Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
Re: Shared libs, moduledir
On Friday 03 August 2001 20:46, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: [shared lib locations, ld.so, ldconfig, KDE modules] > I can easily sum most if not all of this up. Ivan, thanks for replying. > According to FHS and all a distribution is not supposed to touch > anything in /usr/local. /usr/local is meant for use by enduser's. > The reason why the KDE tarballs and projects created by KDevelop put > things in /usr/local/xxx is because these are things the enduser > create. Okay. But what is an end user to do who wants to install a KDE tarball locally? Because... > On a normal distribution that follows FHS you will find that the > moduledir will be /usr/lib/kde2. This path does not need to go into > ld.so.conf because they are modules and KDE apps are the only apps > that need them. Since they are the only apps that need them and they > already know where to find them there is no need to tell anyone else > where they live. ...while KDE does indeed find modules installed in /usr/lib/kde2, it apparently doesn't find modules in /usr/local/lib/kde2, even though my KDEDIRS is set to /usr/local:/usr/. Thanks also to Andy Saxena who pointed me to man ldconfig. On re-reading I found, that ldconfig always processes /lib and /usr/lib, no matter if they're in /etc/ld.so.conf. Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
KDEDIRS (was: Shared libs, moduledir)
On Saturday 04 August 2001 00:53, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > On Saturday 04 August 2001 12:05 am, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > ...while KDE does indeed find modules installed in /usr/lib/kde2, > > it apparently doesn't find modules in /usr/local/lib/kde2, even > > though my KDEDIRS is set to /usr/local:/usr/. > > Apparently setting KDEDIRS like that does not work. It can accept > only a single path not a list of paths separated by colons. I've seen > that in kde sources that I worked on (gideon) and a kicker applet > that I was writing. I wasn't able to run it from /usr/local. > > Does anybody know a workaround or a way we could fix this? Where is > KDEDIRS handled? It's supposed to be near the locate code? It doesn't seem to work for finding modules in /usr/local/lib/kde2. Nevertheless, it *does* work for generating the menu. I have installed (with the help of stow, actually) some KDE apps locally in /usr/local and their desktop entries are added to the KDE menu. Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
Re: Shared libs, moduledir
On Saturday 04 August 2001 03:17, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 11:05:35PM +0200, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > ...while KDE does indeed find modules installed in /usr/lib/kde2, > > it apparently doesn't find modules in /usr/local/lib/kde2, even > > though my KDEDIRS is set to /usr/local:/usr/. > The end user would have to deal with it. KDE it not designed to live > in a mixed environment by default...and if your going to get in the > habit of building apps on a KDE system that derives from packages > then you probably should learn to make your own packages and conform > to the same format as the packages do. Well, okay, that's reasonable. If one just wants to get an idea what (and how) some program does it's quicker to just install it locally. Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
Re: Not KDEDIRS, KDEDIR
On Saturday 04 August 2001 10:47, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > I was setting KDEDIR, not KDEDIRS. I think only KDEDIR is supported, > right? Both are. KDEDIRS is newer. Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
Re: Shared libs, moduledir
On Monday 06 August 2001 13:09, Achim Bohnet wrote:
> You can modifiy /etc/kderc (or /usr/share/config/system.kdeglobals)
> and and other locations where KDE should look for more KDE stuff.
Is it really possible, to have multiple values for the same variable?
Say
dir_apps=/usr/share/applnk
dir_apps=/usr/local/share/applnk
Michael
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Re: Shared libs, moduledir
On Monday 06 August 2001 16:17, Achim Bohnet wrote: > On Monday 06 August 2001 15:30, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > On Monday 06 August 2001 13:09, Achim Bohnet wrote: > > > You can modifiy /etc/kderc (or > > > /usr/share/config/system.kdeglobals) and and other locations > > > where KDE should look for more KDE stuff. > > > > Is it really possible, to have multiple values for the same > > variable? Say > > > > dir_apps=/usr/share/applnk > > dir_apps=/usr/local/share/applnk > > No, but the entry is added to the user and compiled in default: > > ds10(0) ~ > grep apps /etc/kde2/system.kdeglobals > dir_apps=/home/root/kde2/cvs-kde/share/applnk > ds10(0) ~ > /usr/bin/kde-config -path apps > /home/ach/.kde/share/applnk/:/usr/share/applnk/:/home/root/kde2/cvs-k >de/share/applnk/ > > So you can add your extra stuff from /usr/local/opt/kde2 Ah, I see. But I don't think this is necessary as with KDEDIRS one can achieve the same. In my case, KDEDIRS is set to /usr/local:/usr and ~$ kde-config -path module -> /home/michael/.kde/lib/kde2/:/usr/local/lib/kde2/:/usr/lib/kde2/ Up until now, I *thought* /usr/local/lib/kde2 wasn't searched for modules (my own kio-slave, in particular). But now I think, the real problem was that I probably forgot to call ksycoca after installing when I tried it earlier. Sigh. Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
Re: viewing pdf documents with konqueror
On Monday 06 August 2001 19:12, Kalle Hasselström wrote: > What package do I need to install (alternatively, what do I need to > configure properly) for Konqueror to be able to view pdf documents. > It just asks me what application I want to open it with when I try to > view a pdf file. Same with ps I think. Usually, I think, kghostview is used for viewing postscript and pdf. If it is installed, Acrobat Reader can also be used for embedded viewing of pdf documents. kghostview is very likely installed on your system as the kde package depends on it. You can tell KDE to use a particular app for opening or previewing a file type by right clicking on a file that type, choosing "Edit file type..." and then setting the appropriate options. Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
Re: Shared libs, moduledir
On Tuesday 07 August 2001 15:30, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > Hmm. I've tried KDEDIRS and it seems to work. [snip] > Do you have any idea why this applet might not show in kicker applets > menu, or if there is a CLI equivalent of doing that? Where do you set KDEDIRS? IMHO, it's not enough if you set in ~/.bashrc or similar because shell startup files are not read by X. I have set KDEDIRS in ~/.xsession and it's that file that I start from kdm. My ~/.xsession file looks like this ->->->->->->->->->->->-> #! /bin/sh export KDEDIRS=/usr/local:/usr exec /usr/bin/x-session-manager ->->->->->->->->->->->-> x-session-manager is linked to /etc/kde2/kde2.sh via the Debian alternatives system. Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
Re: Shared libs, moduledir
On Tuesday 07 August 2001 21:18, Achim Bohnet wrote: > I personally don't like to do system wide config with environment > variables. User can use kdm or gdm, Bourne or C shell like login > shells, or login via ssh, rsh , telnet etc. to start kde applicatins. > So I prefer the system.kdeglobals or kderc. It's more to type but > it is where kde always looks. I'm not sure I really understand how it works with system.kdeglobals and kderc. How about an "additive" mechanism, where global settings are read from a standard KDE config file and local or per user additions are read from (if present) /etc/kde2/kde.local and ~/.kderc? Michael -- Michael Schuerig GPG Fingerprint mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]DA28 7DEB 5856 3365 BED9 http://www.schuerig.de/michael/8365 0A30 545A 82D2 05D7
Qtopia
I apologize that this question doesn't fit squarely with this group's topic, but haven't found a better place to ask. I'd like to dabble in programming for the Qtopia platform, however, as far as I can tell, there are no packages for the current 4.x edition development tools, although there is an older qt3-dev-tools-embedded package. Can anyone give me a hint how to install the necessary dev tools without damaging my existing Qt installation? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qtopia
On Sunday 10 August 2008, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > On Sunday 10 August 2008 15:35:46 Michael Schuerig wrote: > > Can anyone give me a hint how to install the necessary dev tools > > without damaging my existing Qt installation? > > > > Michael > > No, there is no Qtopia in Debian (at least yet, I may give it a try, > as it would be useful to the QDE project). > > You should (if I remember well enough) use the --prefix to install qt > for embedded systems in another place, anyway I think the default is > /usr/local, in which you are on the safe side. As far as I've figured it out, it works like this - Download a snapshot from ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots/. I've got qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080810.tar.gz. - Unpack it somewhere. - Create an empty installationa directory, in my case /usr/local/opt/qtopia, and cd there. - Run /qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080810/configure. - Run make - Run make install At least it ought to work like that. I'm stumped because configure/qmake insists to use the default gcc/g++, 4.3.1 in my case, which does not compile some of the code. Some of the problems are minor, I finally stumbled for good over a dynamic_cast. gcc/g++ 4.2 will presumably work, however, I haven't found the switch, env variable or whatever else it takes, to tell configure/qmake to use /usr/bin/g++-4.2. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Parallel installation of KDE 3 & 4?
I thought I had been following the discussion in here, but apparently not closely enough. I'm still a bit wary of switching to KDE 4 entirely, however, if possible, I'd like to install it in parallel with KDE 3 or, even better, mix and match apps from both versions. I'm running sid/unstable and if what I'm looking for is at all possible, it apparently isn't as easy as installing the experimental kde4 package. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GUI for mouting encrypted USB stick?
On a friend's machine running KDE 3.x on Ubuntu I've seen that when an encrypted USB stick is plugged in, KDE can ask for the passphrase and open the encrypted volume. On my debian/unstable system this does not work, only after I mount the volume manually with mount.crypt the it is recognized by the panel applet and the popup for opening the volume in a window appears. The USB stick has a single partition encrypted with cryptsetup/luks and is formatted as FAT32. Is this supposed to work on Debian at all? Are there any packages I might be missing? Is there anything that I may have misconfigured? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Panel woes and other peculiarities
I made the switch to KDE 4 today, and over all it went rather well. Most of the annoyances are related to the panel. I may have been living under a rock not to know about this stuff, but here it goes: - I don't seem to be able to move widgets around, even though the panel is unlocked. On the left, there's the KMenu and plugged-in devices. On the far right I've managed to add a few application buttons, logout/lock, and trash. Over most of the space in the middle, the system tray stretches out. - Where do the panels get their colors from? I didn't react to changes in the Appearance > Colors settings and stayed glossy black. When the panel crashed later, it reappeared in marine blue. - Is the digital clock really so dumb as to display the date in a second column instead of underneath the time? Other oddities I noticed: - Resizing Konsole windows lags by several seconds. This doesn't happen for other apps. - I can't bind Win-Shift-+ (aka Win-* on a german keyboard) to Maximize Vertically. - Akregator crashes when started with my original archive, and does so, too, after only importing the feeds.opml. I'll try to partition the feeds into smaller chunks. ~500 might be too much. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Panel woes and other peculiarities
On Friday 10 April 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <200904100017.17828.mich...@schuerig.de>, Michael Schuerig wrote: > >- I don't seem to be able to move widgets around, even though the > > panel is unlocked. On the left, there's the KMenu and plugged-in > > devices. On the far right I've managed to add a few application > > buttons, logout/lock, and trash. Over most of the space in the > > middle, the system tray stretches out. > > I've only had luck moving widgets when the panel settings are > displayed. At point you can click a widget once to "grab" it, then > move your pointer to where you want it and click to "drop" it. Ah, yes, thanks, that works. > Regarding the system tray: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's an upstream > bug (I had a few people confirm it a couple of week ago on one of the > KDE lists). The system tray seems to want to take all the extra space > on the panel, unless it is on a panel with the Task Manager (or > possibly another expanding widget. I haven't gotten around to filing > a bug, and just worked around it locally. I think it's an issue with the layout management. Apparently, panel widgets are packed tightly, at least I can't position them arbitrarily. Then, the stretchable widgets, such as the system tray and the digital clock take up all the place there is. > >- Where do the panels get their colors from? > > IIRC, your desktop theme. Right click an empty spot on your desktop, > choose Appearance, it should be on the first tab as a drop-down with > previews. Yes, I've noticed that, but I haven't seen a setting for the panel color. Anyway, that's a minor thing. > >- Is the digital clock really so dumb as to display the date in a > > second column instead of underneath the time? > > I'm seeing the date underneath the time here. Me too, after adjusting the panel height. Bummer. > >- I can't bind Win-Shift-+ (aka Win-* on a german keyboard) to > > Maximize Vertically. > > Where are you trying to do this and what error (or incorrect > behavior) are you getting? In the Keyboard & Mouse System Settings, Global Keyboard Shortcuts for KWin, there the action Maximize Window. When I press Win-Shift-+ for a custom setting, it makes Meta-* out of it. That's just fine, but it has no effect. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Akonadi, Nepomuk, and PowerDevil
Akonadi, Nepomuk, and PowerDevil are all supposed to do good things behind the scenes. Unfortunately, they are not very forthcoming with information about what exactly they do or what their needs are. Akonadi wants its own instance of MySQL to be running, for whatever reason, even though there are no "resources" set up in its configuration. Am I supposed to do something there? Nepomouk is somehow involved with Desktop Search and the "Semantic Desktop" (whatever that means). It points out that Strigi is not running, but doesn't tell me, that, how or why I ought to start it. PowerDevil points out that another power manager has been detected, preventing it from working properly. Well, that's fine, but how do I find the other miscreant? I deinstalled (k)powersaved, who else might be interfering? My impression of KDE4, so far, is that the applications generally work nicely and with improvements. However, the infrastructure (as above) and the desktop itself, still appears to be rather rough. Nothing on the Debian packagers, of course. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Akonadi, Nepomuk, and PowerDevil
On Friday 10 April 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2009-04-10, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > PowerDevil points out that another power manager has been detected, > > preventing it from working properly. Well, that's fine, but how do > > I find the other miscreant? I deinstalled (k)powersaved, who else > > might be interfering? > > With > qdbus org.freedesktop.DBus / GetConnectionUnixProcessID > org.freedesktop.PowerManagement > > you can get the process id of what ever process is being > powermanager. Well, that would be kded4 in my case. Presumably PowerDevil itself. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Akonadi, Nepomuk, and PowerDevil
On Friday 10 April 2009, Manolete, ese artista... wrote: > El Viernes 10 Abril 2009 11:55:04 Michael Schuerig escribió: > > Nepomouk is somehow involved with Desktop Search and the "Semantic > > Desktop" (whatever that means). It points out that Strigi is not > > running, but doesn't tell me, that, how or why I ought to start it. > > You should not, it won't have any effect. As said in many forums and > lists Nepomuk uses a backend, called "Sesame", (in fact there are two > possible backends, but one of them is unusable) which for technical > reasons (I have also read is some copiright-related issue) is not > packaged in most of Linux distros; so that crucial piece in Nepomuk's > machinery isn't available ergo Nepomuk is, by the moment, useless, > :-/. Don't worry about it because you won't get anything but despair, > hehe. If that's the case, I can stop all these nepomuk processes and happily revert to Konqueror as my beloved file manager. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Akonadi, Nepomuk, and PowerDevil
On Friday 10 April 2009, Dietz Pröpper wrote: > Michael Schuerig: > > If that's the case, I can stop all these nepomuk processes and > > happily revert to Konqueror as my beloved file manager. > > Dolphin works fine without Nepomuk. No doubt, but Konqueror, for me, works better. And as Nepomuk would have been the only feature Dolphin has over Konqueror, I much prefer the later. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Akonadi, Nepomuk, and PowerDevil
On Friday 10 April 2009, Michael Schuerig wrote: > On Friday 10 April 2009, Sune Vuorela wrote: > > On 2009-04-10, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > > PowerDevil points out that another power manager has been > > > detected, preventing it from working properly. Well, that's fine, > > > but how do I find the other miscreant? I deinstalled > > > (k)powersaved, who else might be interfering? > > > > With > > qdbus org.freedesktop.DBus / GetConnectionUnixProcessID > > org.freedesktop.PowerManagement > > > > you can get the process id of what ever process is being > > powermanager. > > Well, that would be kded4 in my case. Presumably PowerDevil itself. It was my own fault, probably. Another reboot has purged every residue of other power managers from the system and not PowerDevil works. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Kaboom, the Debian KDE settings migration wizard
On Saturday 11 April 2009, Guan de dio wrote: > Is there any way to go back the configuration of the desktop ? Do you have all the necessary parts installed? Make sure that kde4- minimal is installed, in case it is not. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Glitches: knotes, klipper, kmail, login manager config
I'm trying to find out whether these are my own problems, related to packaging, or upstream bugs: - knotes windows aren't resizable and on login all notes are closed, session mgmt doesn't seem to work. - klipper is not restarted by session mgmt. - KMail doesn't show anything to distinguish watched, ignored or important messages in the list. Maybe the icons are just missing. - Login Manager configuration doesn't offer switching to root for making changes. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Glitches: knotes, klipper, kmail, login manager config
On Saturday 11 April 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <200904110912.52675.mich...@schuerig.de>, Michael Schuerig wrote: > >- klipper is not restarted by session mgmt. > > Works for me, here. My session starts klipper and nearly a dozen > other applications. > > >- KMail doesn't show anything to distinguish watched, ignored or > >important messages in the list. Maybe the icons are just missing. > > Make sure the theme you are using has the "Important Icon" and the > "Watched/Ignored Icon" content items. > > Your theme is controlled by the last icon next to the search bar in > the message list. The tool-tip for that button is "Select View > Appearance (Theme)" Thanks! I didn't expect to be able to configure this, but true to KDE spirit, of course it is configurable. Just not in the same place as the other settings. Again, thanks, now I'm able to get exactly the display I want. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Glitches: knotes, klipper, kmail, login manager config
On Saturday 11 April 2009, Alejandro Exojo wrote: > El Sábado, 11 de Abril de 2009, Michael Schuerig escribió: > > - knotes windows aren't resizable > > Certainly, the handle on the lower-right corner has dissappeared, but > you can still resize them using a "trick" that is common to KDE/X11 > windows: press the left Alt key, and click with the right mouse > button inside the window, and close to a corner (it's configurable in > System Settings, IIRC). That way you can resize the notes as any > other window. I'm learning new things all the time. I only knew about AltL with the left mouse button to move a window around. Still, are (k)notes supposed to behave like this, i.e., to be only resizable with this trick or is there a bug lurking? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Konqueror extensions AWOL: Bookmarklets, Crashes Monitor, KHTML Settings, Feed Icon
There are several extensions for Konqueror whose existence I can verify in Configure Extensions, which don't seen to have any effect, though. Here's what I remember the missing ones to do in 3.5.10: Bookmarklets: Add a sub-menu of JavaScript bookmarks to Tools > Bookmarklets. Crashes Monitor: Add a sub-menu containing crashes and the involved pages at Tools > Crashes. KHTML Settings: Add a sub-menu Tools > HTML Settings for enabling/disabling JavaScript, Cookies etc. Feed Icon: When a visited page contains (an auto-detectable) feed, display a feed icon in the status bar with a popup menu for adding them to Akregator. For links to feeds, add a "Add to Akregator..." action to the context menu. Am I the only one missing these? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Akonadi not starting
On Wednesday 15 April 2009, jedd wrote: > Fairy nuff. My gut feel is that we'd be better off making people > run the MySQL database properly - just make it a dependency, and use > debconf stuff to set up the database per user. If we're committed to > having a MySQL instance to run Akonadi, then I can't see any benefit > (and lots of problems) in running a dedicated Akonadi-MySQL daemon. > MySQL tends to be pretty light on the CPU while it's idle, but it > sure does like to eat up memory. And, as discussed, disk too. I can't help but wonder whether Akonadi and its required infrastructure is much use to the average user. More specifically, I have a nagging suspicion that the KDEPIM folks are running away trying to make KDE enterprise ready with ever more involved schemes for data management, while at the same time presumably most KDE users don't have a need for groupware and data exchange features. Yes, pushing Linux/KDE into the enterprise is worthwhile, but at the same time, people who don't use the requisite features should not have to suffer for it. More to the case in point, I feel decidedly squeamish about putting mailboxes and other valuable data into MySQL. For one thing, the backup approaches most people are using won't work! Sorry, but you can't just copy a database with open connections to an external USB disk, at least you need to create a dump file first and backup that. (Does MySQL ensure transactional isolation and integrity for the dump operation?) at any rate, I feel much safer with mbox and maildir. Particularly taking into account the database skills displayed in other niches of the KDE project (Amarok, anyone?). Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Akonadi not starting
On Wednesday 15 April 2009, Kevin Krammer wrote: > Think about Akonadi as a kind of proxy for PIM data. It makes access > fast, allows access to content currently not available directly but > the canonical source of content is still where it is without the > proxy. It's hard to argue with a well-reasoned response. You haven't allayed all of my fears, but things might not be entirely bad. Thanks. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Konqueror extensions AWOL: Bookmarklets, Crashes Monitor, KHTML Settings, Feed Icon
On Thursday 16 April 2009, Ismael Bejarano wrote: > On Wednesday 15 April 2009 08:09:51 Michael Schuerig wrote: > > There are several extensions for Konqueror whose existence I can > > verify in Configure Extensions, which don't seen to have any > > effect, though. Here's what I remember the missing ones to do in > > 3.5.10: [snip] > > Am I the only one missing these? > It was mentioned in another conversation in unstable you have > konq-plugins which provides KHTML Settings, Feed Icon, adblock, > babelfish, etc. Yes, I have that package installed and the extensions I mention are there, in some sense at least. They show up in Settings > Configure Extensions, but that is all, no further discernible effect. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Konqueror extensions AWOL: Bookmarklets, Crashes Monitor, KHTML Settings, Feed Icon
On Thursday 16 April 2009, emikaadeo wrote: > Michael Schuerig schuerig.de> writes: > > Yes, I have that package installed and the extensions I mention are > > there, in some sense at least. They show up in Settings > Configure > > Extensions, but that is all, no further discernible effect. > > > > Michael > > Well, works for me here. > > emikaa...@debian:~$ dpkg -l konq-plugins > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold > > | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/ > |Trig-pend / Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems > | (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) > | > ||/ Name VersionDescription > > +++-==-==- > ii konq-plugins 4:4.2.2-1 plugins for Konqueror, the > KDE file/web/doc browser > > When I for example: opening planetkde.org website, > I have a feed icon in konqueror's status bar. > AdBlock icon is also there. I have the same version of konq-plugins installed. The AdBlock icon is there, the feed icon is not. "Konqueror Feed Icon" is marked in Settings > Configure Extensions. I haven't found the config file where these things are set. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Ensuring that screen is locked on wakeup + power mgmt in general
When I suspend my notebook to RAM from the logout dialog the screen is not locked on wakeup. This is not what I want, of course, however, I can't find the right place to configure it. The screen saver is set to lock the screen after 60 sec (on top of the 5 min after which it is activated) and this works correctly when the computer is on. I don't know if the screen saver is supposed to kick in on wakeup, but I wish it would. There are other things regarding Suspend to RAM that I noticed: In the (advanced) Power Management Configuration, the power button is set to trigger the Log out dialog. It does indeed appear, but at the same time I a system message pops up telling me that the system is powered off NOW. Then, on wakeup, the LAN connection is not brought up again and the network system monitor widget is maxed out. After restarting network- manager, the connection is re-established, but the widget remains unhelpful. Looking through my installed packages, I notice that a whole slew of them is related to power management: - acpi, acpid, acpi-support - laptop-mode-tools - pm-utils - uswsusp Also, there is power devil as part of kdebase-workspace-bin; notably, (k)powersave(d) are not installed. Are all these packages necessary for proper power managment on a notebook? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: upgrading to kde4
On Tuesday 21 April 2009, Joseph Rawson wrote: > I am probably going to be writing a similar script for my konsole > schemas next. It seems that the newer ones look more like actual kde > configuration files, while the older ones were simple text files. > Regarding konsole, it seems that I'm unable to set a size for the > windows. It looks like konsole starts with the size that the last > window was using. This is undesirable, as if the last terminal has > been maximized, then next one that appears will also be the same > size, instead of a preset size. I dug around the configuration the > best I could, but I couldn't find an option that pertains to this. Try the window menu on the far left on each window's title bar. There, you'll find Advanced > Special Window Settings / Special Application Settings. In principle, you ought to be able to set the default window size there (don't ask why this settings is hidden away and apart from all others). It seems to be working for some people, if I understood them correctly. It does not work for me, however. Neither does it work for me to set a default size for Konqueror profiles (or even windows). Give it a try, YMMV. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: upgrading to kde4
On Wednesday 22 April 2009, Joseph Rawson wrote: > Before setting kwin to handle those > settings, I tried to set those values in konsolerc, and I put the > [$i] option on them. This seems to work, but to do this, you have to > logout entirely and edit the konsolerc file in a terminal, then log > back into the desktop. I think that this is probably the better way > to configure this, as it doesn't rely on kwin. Could you explain a bit more detailed what you're doing? What's the purpose of [$i]? Does it make a setting immutable? Where is it applied? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: upgrading to kde4
On Wednesday 22 April 2009, Joseph Rawson wrote: > > Could you explain a bit more detailed what you're doing? What's the > > purpose of [$i]? Does it make a setting immutable? Where is it > > applied? > > Certainly! :) > > The information was obtained here: > http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Configuration_Files >#Lock_Down Great, thanks! Sometimes I'm surprised about all the things I never knew about KDE. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Printing: preview, Gnome-dependency
In the KDE 4 print dialog there doesn't seem to be a preview option anymore. Is this correct or did I just not find it or have to install some additional stuff? Also, I noticed that printer configuration as provided by system-config- printer-kde apparently depends on parts of Gnome. Is this intended or only out of necessity? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Konqueror: webkit instead of khtml
On Monday 27 April 2009, David Baron wrote: > On Monday 27 April 2009 12:37:35 Juergen Hornung wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > now that we have qt 4.5 in SID I'd love to see also a webkit > > rendering engine in konqueror - is there a change to see a working > > part of it? (I tested it with Arora and I really love the webkit > > rendering). > > > > Regards and my thanks for the KDE Debian team! > > Maybe now is the time to change it. Konqueror is nigh useless right > now, slow, system-bogdown, wierd scrolling problems, you name it. I've just suffered repeated lock-ups on a site as common as amazon.de. Konqueror goes to almost 100% CPU and all I can do is kill the process. I'm not sure whether the behavior is deterministic for particular pages as this tends to happen on dynamic pages where I can check afterwards if there are slight differences. Konqueror has been my favorite browser for years, but with 4.x it is acquiring an unstable bent. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE 4 simply broken
On Thursday 14 May 2009, Mike Bird wrote: > On Thu May 14 2009 12:54:50 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Not that I shall abandon KDE 3.x.x until I am dragged off it > > kicking and screaming. > > Amen. KDE 4 has been out well over a year. In fact it's more than > two years since the first test release. I've tried it a two or three > times and always run away screaming. There's no way I can force that > on my users. I've done my share of complaining about KDE 4, here and elsewhere. Konqueror (as browser and filemanager), Akregator, and Plasma still regularly crash for me. I really hope that the most severe of these problems will be history soon. There are annoyingly missing missing or broken features as compared to 3.5.x. Several choices, mostly in the PIM area, seem misguided to me, more for the benefit of imagined corporate users than actual users. Still, I'm convinced that KDE 4 is the way forward. The underlying architectural changes, as far as I've come to know them, look like solid improvements to me. The problem with KDE 4 is neither stability nor missing or broken features. The problem is that it is billed as the current *release* of KDE, although judging it on its own (stability, misfeatures) as well as comparing it to KDE 3.5.x, shows that it is pretty clearly not ready for prime time. As a programmer myself, I fully appreciate the situation. It's much more enjoyable to develop something from scratch, implement exciting new features and eye candy, than it is to maintain and enhance old and crufty code. Even more so for people who work on KDE in their spare time. I don't think there is a happy solution, rather it boils down to a tough decision to be made by the KDE teams of the various distributions. Either way, a lot of users will be displeased. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
KDE 4.3: Strigi?
Apparently KDE 4.3 insists on running strigidaemon, even though in the "Desktop Search" settings "Enable Strigi Desktop File Indexer" is *not* enabled. Now, I'd be willing to overlook this unruly behavior, if there was any discernible gain. However, I can't see that strigi is used anywhere. So, I'm wondering, is there any point in running strigidaemon? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Digikam doesn't show any images
Since a recent upgrade Digikam (2:1.0.0~beta3-1) doesn't show any images anymore. I've deleted and rebuild ~/.kde/share/apps/digikam and /digikam4.db, but that didn't change anything. Does anyone have an idea what might be going wrong? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Digikam doesn't show any images
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Edward J. Shornock wrote: > * Michael Schuerig [23-08-2009 19:39 EEST]: > > Since a recent upgrade Digikam (2:1.0.0~beta3-1) doesn't show any > > images anymore. I've deleted and rebuild ~/.kde/share/apps/digikam > > and /digikam4.db, but that didn't change anything. Does > > anyone have an idea what might be going wrong? > > What version of KDE? Oh, sorry, 4.3, all the latest Debian/unstable packages. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Digikam doesn't show any images
On Sunday 23 August 2009, Edward J. Shornock wrote: > * Michael Schuerig [23-08-2009 21:12 EEST]: > > On Sunday 23 August 2009, Edward J. Shornock wrote: > > > * Michael Schuerig [23-08-2009 19:39 EEST]: > > > > Since a recent upgrade Digikam (2:1.0.0~beta3-1) doesn't show > > > > any images anymore. I've deleted and rebuild > > > > ~/.kde/share/apps/digikam and /digikam4.db, but > > > > that didn't change anything. Does anyone have an idea what > > > > might be going wrong? > > > > > > What version of KDE? > > > > Oh, sorry, 4.3, all the latest Debian/unstable packages. > > Upgrade digikam to 2:1.0.0~beta3-1+b1 and it should work again. Thanks, it works now after rebuilding the binary packages from the source package myself. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Konqueror cannot verify certificates
Starting with a recent upgrade, Konqueror presents me with error messages every time I (first) visit a site through https. The message is always like this The server failed the authenticity check () The certificate cannot be verified for internal reasons When I look at the details in the "KDE SSL Information" dialog, I can discern no problem. In fact, the message at the top states that Current connection is secured with SSL. And further below it says Trusted: Yes I'm running KDE 4.3 and my system is an up-to-date Debian/unstable. Does anyone have an idea what might be going wrong here? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Kmail and korgac comatose on restarted session
I have KDE save and resume sessions on logging out and logging in again. Normally, all applications are correctly restarted by session management. Since KDE 4.3, korgac, the KDE reminder daemon starts up comatose, i.e., it doesn't show up in the system tray and it doesn't remind of any pending appointments or todos. Recently, the same seems to be happening with Kmail, there is a process running, but there are no further vital signs. Does anyone have an idea what might be wrong and what I can do about it? I'm running Debian/unstable with the latest packages. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Taskmanager widget crashes X
Repeatedly in the past 10 days (with current Debian/unstable KDE packages each day), KDE has crashed X on me. The proximate cause has always been that I clicked on a tab in the taskbar contained in a panel at the top edge of the screen. Specifically, this happened when I clicked right at the edge of the screen. I'm using (unfortunately, but I don't see an alternative) the closed source nvidia driver. The backtrace info from the log is appended below, but I it doesn't seem to be very helpful. I appreciate your ideas and suggestions what might be going wrong and what to do about it. Michael Backtrace: 0: /usr/bin/X(xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x81314cb] 1: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x51) [0x80c1df1] 2: [0xb8064400] 3: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7fd6a65] 4: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7fa9de9] 5: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7fd1098] 6: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7fd93aa] 7: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7fda438] 8: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7fd0da3] 9: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7faaaf3] 10: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7fd2e72] 11: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7faaaf3] 12: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7fde5d3] 13: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7faaaf3] 14: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7fe595b] 15: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 [0xb7faaaf3] 16: /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0(pixman_image_composite+0x16c) [0xb7fd1c8c] 17: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so(fbComposite+0x1b2) [0xb6798b02] 18: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so [0xb6af20e7] Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Taskmanager widget crashes X
On Wednesday 14 October 2009, jedd wrote: > Hi Michael, > > I'm also using closed-source custom-compiled (or linked) nVidia > drivers on my 2.6.30 kernel (also custom-compiled) with almost > solely unstable (a couple of experimental packages). > > I've seen X being far more stable than previously - say in the past > two or three months, I've had very few crashes, perhaps two. Prior > to that I was seeing a lot more, not sure if that was X, KDE 4.2 or > a combination. > > Given you're using a panel on the top of the screen, which is > likely not where most people run it, would you be able to try it > at the bottom edge of the screen for a while and see if the problem > continues? I'm using panels at both edges. Pager and Taskmanager at the top edge, K menu, system tray etc. at the bottom. > > I'm using NVIDIA-Linux-x86-185.18.36-pkg1.run - I'm guessing > you're on that version too? Ah, yes, I'm using an older version (180.44-2) of the nvidia driver and kernel 2.6.29. When I last tried, a few months ago, more recent combinations of driver and kernel resulted in "drop outs", very short flickering to a black screen. I'll have to try the current kernel with current driver. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
KGpg vs. Kleopatra
I just today noticed Kleopatra when I archived and encrypted a folder from Konqueror (as file manager). Formerly, that was a task for KGpg and I wonder whether this older program has been superseded by Kleopatra. Apparently not, as both are there in versions for KDE 4.3. I didn't look too closely, but obviously there are large overlaps in functionality. For my purpose at hand, KGpg was the better fit as it supports symmetric encryption of files/folders. Still, I'm wondering what the deal is with these two. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: command line saving session
On Saturday 23 January 2010, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Friday, 2010-01-22, roberto wrote: > > hello > > i am searching for a command line way to save the kde session, > > since i'd like to place it into a script along with the command to > > suspend the pc > > > > i've found this command: > > dcop ksmserver ksmserver saveCurrentSession > > > > do you think it is right ? > > Yes, that looks right for KDE3, the KDE4 equivalent should be > qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer > org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession Thanks for this! I've long been looking for a way to periodically save the session state as I've been annoyed by crashes destroying my setup. So, below is a script I'm now having cron run every 5 minutes. Michael #! /bin/sh . /usr/share/acpi-support/power-funcs # for getXuser for x in /tmp/.X11-unix/* ; do displaynum=`echo $x | sed s,/tmp/.X11-unix/X,,` getXuser if [ x"$XAUTHORITY" != x"" ] ; then export DISPLAY=":$displaynum" qdbus org.kde.ksmserver \ /KSMServer org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession > /dev/null fi done exit 0 -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: command line saving session
On Sunday 24 January 2010, Arthur Marsh wrote: > Kevin Krammer wrote, on 23/01/10 22:28: > > On Friday, 2010-01-22, roberto wrote: > >> hello > >> i am searching for a command line way to save the kde session, > >> since i'd like to place it into a script along with the command to > >> suspend the pc > >> > >> i've found this command: > >> dcop ksmserver ksmserver saveCurrentSession > >> > >> do you think it is right ? > > > > Yes, that looks right for KDE3, the KDE4 equivalent should be > > qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer > > org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession > > > > Cheers, > > Kevin > > Is there a line break or word split somewhere there? I'm not running > kde4 yet but would like to have the command in a workable state for > future reference. $ qdbus org.kde.ksmserver /KSMServer \ org.kde.KSMServerInterface.saveCurrentSession Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Tellico: using webcam to scan ISBN barcode
In theory it works like this: You hold the book's barcode closely in front of the webcam, a snapshot is taken and interpreted and the resulting numbers are inserted into the ISBN field. In practice this has never worked for me. I've never made it even to the point where a snapshot is taken of the barcode. Which left me wondering if this feature works for anyone at all, or if the problem is related to my setup. I have a Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000, which ought to be good enough, but unfortunately, is from a series whose firmware has issues with Linux[*]. However, it does work in Skype and [gl]uvcview, and in Tellico, when I open the "Search the Internet" dialog, a functional camera window pops- up in addition. As far as I can tell, the problem may be that the image simply isn't sharp when I hold the barcode close enough to the camera. I'm using Tellico 2.1.1-2, the system is a current Debian/unstable. Michael [*] http://www.quickcamteam.net/documentation/faq/how-many-versions-of- the-quickcam-pro-9000-are-there My exemplar has USB BCD 0x0008, but I'm not affected by the "hanging" camera issue. -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201002171122.57195.mich...@schuerig.de
4.4.1 SC: Updating System Configuration endless loop
When I do anything that triggers an update to the system configuration, say, choose a default File Manager application, the usual "Updating System Configuration" progress dialog pops up. However, it only goes up to 70% to 90%, then jumps back to about 5% and starts over. Endlessly. Akonadi and Strigi are doing there work in the background. Is it possible they're interfering in some way? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003051115.18885.mich...@schuerig.de
KMail: doesn't delete (all) messages from POP server, retrieves them multiple times
KMail 1.13.1, from KDE 4.4.1, for me doesn't properly delete mails from the POP server after retrieving them. It also does not recognize that it has retrieved these messages already and as a consequence, I get multiple copies of each and every message. Apparently, this doesn't happen without a bound, but I've seen cases where there were 5 copies of the same message. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003051419.40119.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: KMail: doesn't delete (all) messages from POP server, retrieves them multiple times
On Friday 05 March 2010, Michael Schuerig wrote: > KMail 1.13.1, from KDE 4.4.1, for me doesn't properly delete mails > from the POP server after retrieving them. It also does not > recognize that it has retrieved these messages already and as a > consequence, I get multiple copies of each and every message. > Apparently, this doesn't happen without a bound, but I've seen cases > where there were 5 copies of the same message. Apparently, the problem disappears when I enable "pipelining" for mail download. This is a cure, hopefully, but doesn't explain anything. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003051751.27470.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: KMail: doesn't delete (all) messages from POP server, retrieves them multiple times
On Friday 05 March 2010, Michael Schuerig wrote: > On Friday 05 March 2010, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > KMail 1.13.1, from KDE 4.4.1, for me doesn't properly delete mails > > from the POP server after retrieving them. It also does not > > recognize that it has retrieved these messages already and as a > > consequence, I get multiple copies of each and every message. > > Apparently, this doesn't happen without a bound, but I've seen > > cases where there were 5 copies of the same message. > > Apparently, the problem disappears when I enable "pipelining" for > mail download. This is a cure, hopefully, but doesn't explain > anything. Well, apparently, there are not-quite-reproducible thingsways to make it disappear for a while, unfortunately, it reappears. AFAICT, KMail does send DELE messages to the server, as I checked with TLS switched off temporarily, so it is surely tempting to blame the server. However, I did not change anything about the server, but certainly changed KMail and its KDE infrastructure. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003071734.33258.mich...@schuerig.de
Desktop search: should background processes be (io)niced?
I'm trying to take advantage of the newly usable desktop search feature and have selected several GBs of documents for indexing. The drawback is that the various processes associated with this task -- nepomukservices, virtuoso-t -- chew heavily on the CPU and slurp away I/O bandwidth. I noticed one nepomukservices process that is running at nice level 19, all other related processes apparently have nice level 0. I don't know if there is any ionice-ing done at all. Shouldn't all these processes be running in such a way as to yield CPU and I/O bandwidth to other processes? The only possible reason against this might be issues with priority inversion, where a higher priority (UI) app is waiting for a lower priority server process to reply, while at the same time precluding the lower priority process from getting any work done. However, I have no idea whether this case can occur at all. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003082155.18583.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Desktop search: should background processes be (io)niced?
On Monday 08 March 2010, Valerio Passini wrote: > Alle lunedì 08 marzo 2010, Michael Schuerig ha scritto: > > I'm trying to take advantage of the newly usable desktop search > > feature and have selected several GBs of documents for indexing. > > The drawback is that the various processes associated with this > > task -- nepomukservices, virtuoso-t -- chew heavily on the CPU and > > slurp away I/O bandwidth. > > > > I noticed one nepomukservices process that is running at nice level > > 19, all other related processes apparently have nice level 0. I > > don't know if there is any ionice-ing done at all. Shouldn't all > > these processes be running in such a way as to yield CPU and I/O > > bandwidth to other processes? > I was as willing as you to try it, but there is problem with strigi > starting indexing the same stuff over and over again. See bug: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226895 > In theory the desktop search engine should eat much CPU only once, at > the beginning, when the index must be built from zero. When this > process is completed, only newer files need to be indexed and the > CPU usage is comparably lower. If you don't meet that bug, you > probably should be happy with nepomuk. I'm not convinced this is a real bug. From what I can tell, strigi does not index in depth-first order. In my case, I have >> 100.000 files that I'd like to have indexed (if that's really sensible, I'll decide later) and I'm prepared for it to take some time. But still I don't think indexing should hog my computer the way it does. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003090046.44902.mich...@schuerig.de
Sending session DBus message from system cron job?
I'd like to disable the desktop search indexer while the cron-triggered backup is running. I've figured out the relevant DBus messages I need for that: qdbus org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstrigiservice \ /nepomukstrigiservice isSuspended qdbus org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstrigiservice \ /nepomukstrigiservice suspend qdbus org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstrigiservice \ /nepomukstrigiservice resume I'm still looking for an elegant way to find all running sessions. Currently, the best I can think of looks something like this . /usr/share/acpi-support/power-funcs CMD=one of the above for x in /tmp/.X11-unix/* ; do displaynum=`echo $x | sed s,/tmp/.X11-unix/X,,` getXuser if [ x"$XUSER" != x"" ] ; then su -c "$CMD" $XUSER fi done Well, it works, but it sure isn't elegant. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003091749.18943.mich...@schuerig.de
k3b dependency/linking and build problem
When I try to burn an audio CD with k3b (1.90.0~rc1-1) it aborts with the following last line in its console output k3b: relocation error: /usr/lib/kde4/k3bffmpegdecoder.so: symbol av_init_packet, version LIBAVFORMAT_52 not defined in file libavformat.so.52 with link time reference I've tried to simply rebuild the package myself (debuild -us -uc), but that results in another error make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/k3b-1.90.0~rc1/obj-i486-linux-gnu' dh_install -O--parallel -O--list-missing -O--dbg-package=k3b-dbg cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/share/kde4/services/k3bffmpegdecoder.desktop': No such file or directory dh_install: cp -a debian/tmp/usr/share/kde4/services/k3bffmpegdecoder.desktop debian/k3b- data//usr/share/kde4/services/ returned exit code 1 make: *** [binary] Error 2 Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003091838.10757.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Sending session DBus message from system cron job?
On Wednesday 10 March 2010, Glennie Vignarajah wrote: > Le 09/03/2010 vers 17:49, dans le message intitulé "Sending session > DBus message from system cron job?", Michael Schuerig(Michael > Schuerig ) a écrit: > > > > Hello, > > > I'd like to disable the desktop search indexer while the > > cron-triggered backup is running. I've figured out the relevant > > DBus messages I need > > > for that: > I use this code: [snip] Thanks! Yes, that's better. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003101505.38120.mich...@schuerig.de
Phonon and audio systems in general
Sound works for me in KDE, so there's no pressing problem that needs solving. However, my understanding of how and why things work is rather limited. KDE apps use phonon for sound, which uses a xine-based backend to output sound to ALSA. Apparently, apart from the xine-backend, there are others (gstreamer, pulseaudio?). I have no idea what reasons there might be for choosing one over the others. Also, since I've become aware of phonon, I've been wondering whether it's only relevant for applications that have been developed with it explicitly in mind, or, say, whether there's a way to output sound from any app to a virtual phonon device for Notifications, Music, or Communication and have phonon route it to the real device selected in the Sound and Video Configuration. As for the Debian-connection: Is there any preferred way for audio on Debian systems? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003131619.45602.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Phonon and audio systems in general
On Saturday 13 March 2010, George Kiagiadakis wrote: > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Michael Schuerig wrote: [snipped] > Yes, phonon is just a multimedia player API and is only relevant for > applications that have been developed with it. It is not a sound > system like arts used to be in KDE 3. Pulseaudio provides a system > like that, where it creates virtual alsa/oss devices so that > applications that are not aware of it can output sound via the > pulseaudio server and it has controls for different categories of > applications, as well as separate volume control for each > application, etc... > > > As for the Debian-connection: Is there any preferred way for audio > > on Debian systems? > > Afaik there is only confusion... I am happy here with ALSA, which > works out of the box on linux systems. Others prefer pulseaudio, but > I only have heard bad comments about it, so I am not very willing to > try it. Thanks for the overview. Too bad about pulseaudio, I would have liked a way to make Skype fit in seamlessly. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003140017.38604.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Akonadi-MySQL Issues
On Monday 15 March 2010, George Kiagiadakis wrote: > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Dominik Schulz wrote: > > 2.) Akonadi backup > > Another issue is also related to MySQL. Since MySQL/InnoDB is used > > as an Akonadi backend, it troubles me how to properly backup user > > profiles in a multi-user setup. Right now I'm just backing up the > > users homedirs which covers most personal data and applicatin > > profiles, but with InnoDB this becomes difficult w/o LVM Snapshots > > (which aren't available on all systems right now). How is the > > akonadi db supposed to be backed up? Or is the information in the > > db no vital to akonadi and shouldn't backed up at all? The akonadi > > documentation seems to point this way, but I'm not sure. > > Well, since akonadi's database is stored in ~/.local, if you backup > the whole home dir, akonadi's db should be backed up too. That, unfortunately, is a misconception. If you just copy the database files while akonadi is running, you're in no way guaranteed to get a consistent snapshot. The clean way to backup a database is to transactionally dump its contents. > The only > problem is that the database is huge; it's at least 100MB (!!!) when > it's created for the first time and keeps growing (On my > university's lab the admins have disabled akonadi just because of > that, to save space) On a personal computer, I don't see the size itself as a problem. However, regarding backups, there's no way to make small, incremental backups. Tools such as rsnapshot (that keep hardlinks to unchanged files in a snapshot) are thwarted, too. BTW, it's not just akonadi that's affected by this problem, amarok has started to use an embedded MySQL engine, too. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003151308.18875.mich...@schuerig.de
Amarok, KMix: how to set sound volume for external audio adapter?
After quite some time I've looked at Amarok again now that 2.3 has made it into unstable. Somehow, I'm missing a way to set the sound volume. I didn't find a volume slider in Amarok itself and KMix, too, doesn't show any controls for my external Edirol UA-1EX sound adapter. Phonon does recognize the external adapter, it happily plays sound through it and it is displayed in the Multimedia System Settings. KMix does show tabs for the internal "HDA Intel" adapter and for my external webcam (Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000). However, the tab for the webcam contains no controls, older version of KMix/KDE did have controls there. I have already deleted ~/.kde/share/config/kmix*, but that didn't make a difference. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003151816.23491.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Amarok, KMix: how to set sound volume for external audio adapter?
On Wednesday 17 March 2010, Kenny Fairweather wrote: > On 15/03/10 17:16, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > After quite some time I've looked at Amarok again now that 2.3 has > > made it into unstable. Somehow, I'm missing a way to set the sound > > volume. I didn't find a volume slider in Amarok itself and KMix, > > too, doesn't show any controls for my external Edirol UA-1EX sound > > adapter. > > Click on the speaker, top right, to get the slider. Or scroll wheel > over the icon. Consistency may be for small minds, like mine, but is this a bit non- obvious? I had noticed the Mute functionality alright. I don't get a slider when I click on the speaker widget, rather, in order to set the volume, I have to drag along the widget's border in a circle. Thankfully, the scroll wheel does work too. I'm not blaming you, of course. To the contrary, thanks for pointing out how this thing works. Still, I can't help but notice that this widget is, to my mind, exemplary of what has gone wrong in KDE 4 -- a preference for coolness over solid functionality. As a programmer myself I can easily understand how this comes about, especially in projects that are done for fun, not money. As a user, however, I don't have to like this. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003170903.02559.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Amarok, KMix: how to set sound volume for external audio adapter?
On Wednesday 17 March 2010, Carsten Pfeiffer wrote: > Cheers, > Carsten (who always uses global shortcuts (Ctrl-Alt-Shift-Up/Down) to > control the volume) Me too, generally, but so far I didn't get it to work satisfactorily with two sound adapters, a built-in one and an external one. As I wrote, Phonon sees the external adapter and Amarok output is correctly routed there. However, KMix doesn't show the external adapter and that's why I asked about setting the volume to begin with. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003171603.49348.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Sending session DBus message from system cron job?
On Wednesday 10 March 2010, Glennie Vignarajah wrote:
> Le 09/03/2010 vers 17:49, dans le message intitulé "Sending session
> I use this code:
>
> -
> for _PID in $(pgrep -u $USER startkde) ; do
> _ID="$(cat /proc/$_PID/environ | tr '\0' '\n' |awk -
> FDBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS= '/DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=/ {print $2}')"
> _DBUS_BUS_ADDRESS="$_ID $_DBUS_BUS_ADDRESS"
> done
> ---
> In order to find DBUS sockets, and then
>
> ---
> for _BUS_ID in $_DBUS_BUS_ADDRESS ; do
> DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=$_BUS_ID dbus-send --type=method_call --
> dest=org.kde.screensaver /ScreenSaver
> org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver.Lock done
I'm by now using this method to send a message from a (system) cron job
and unfortunately it does not work as I hoped. I've changed
pgrep -u $USER startkde
to
pgrep startkde
as I want to stop all nepomuk indexers during a backup. However, I get
an error message in the output from the cron job, implying that the
message could not be sent, and indeed, the indexer is not disabled. This
is the message:
Failed to open connection to "session" message bus: Did not receive a
reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a
reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply
timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
Is there a way to work around this?
Michael
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Re: Sending session DBus message from system cron job?
On Sunday 21 March 2010, Glennie Vignarajah wrote:
> Le 21/03/2010 vers 09:56, dans le message intitulé "Re: Sending
> session DBus message from system cron job?", Michael
> Schuerig(Michael Schuerig
>
> ) a écrit:
> > On Wednesday 10 March 2010, Glennie Vignarajah wrote:
> > > Le 09/03/2010 vers 17:49, dans le message intitulé "Sending
> > > session
>
> Hello,
>
> > Failed to open connection to "session" message bus: Did not receive
> > a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not
> > send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply,
> > the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
>
> It's seems that session bus needs a DISPLAY.
> Use the DISPLAY variable associated with DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
> Have a look at http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/DBus notify-send over
> network.htm
I didn't get it to work with DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY either, so I
reverted to my rough method
NEPOMUK="org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstrigiservice"
SUSPEND="/nepomukstrigiservice org.kde.nepomuk.Strigi.suspend"
RESUME="/nepomukstrigiservice org.kde.nepomuk.Strigi.resume"
case "$1" in
on|resume)
CMD="$RESUME"
;;
off|suspend)
CMD="$SUSPEND"
;;
*)
echo "Usage: $0 {on|off}"
exit 1
;;
esac
. /usr/share/acpi-support/power-funcs
for x in /tmp/.X11-unix/* ; do
displaynum=`echo $x | sed s,/tmp/.X11-unix/X,,`
getXuser
if [ x"$XUSER" != x"" ] ; then
sudo -u $XUSER dbus-send --session --type=method_call -- \
dest=$NEPOMUK $CMD
fi
done
I'm using sudo instead of su because, on my system, su triggers an
unecessary password prompt from libpam_mount.
Michael
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Nepomuk loses its memory after session restart
I've just had the unfavorable experience that nepomuk has apparently lost its memory after indexing 75.000 files. All I had to do was to logout from the session and then start a new one. As nepomukservices had bloated to 2GB of VM, I thought this a good idea. In order to check whether only the full-text index is affected, I set the rating and comment on a file and again restarted the session. Alas, both were lost afterwards. Am I having particularly bad luck here or are others seeing similar things? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003251932.25093.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Nepomuk loses its memory after session restart
On Thursday 25 March 2010, Modestas Vainius wrote: > Hello, > > On ketvirtadienis 25 Kovas 2010 20:32:24 Michael Schuerig wrote: > > I've just had the unfavorable experience that nepomuk has > > apparently lost its memory after indexing 75.000 files. All I had > > to do was to logout from the session and then start a new one. As > > nepomukservices had bloated to 2GB of VM, I thought this a good > > idea. > > > > In order to check whether only the full-text index is affected, I > > set the rating and comment on a file and again restarted the > > session. Alas, both were lost afterwards. > > > > Am I having particularly bad luck here or are others seeing similar > > things? > > This is likely to be the recent virtuoso borkage [1][2]. Yes, apparently that's the case. I saw the notice when upgrading, but interpreted as 686 not being affected. Well, it was. > In either case, make sure nepomuk search in dolphin works. Sorry, but > there is no reliable to fix this without nuking nepomuk virtuoso > dabatase. Seems to work fine for now. I'm getting used to deleting the nepomuk and akonadi backing stores. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100325.01262.mich...@schuerig.de
Nepomuk: re-checking the strigi index constantly
I've upgraded to the fresh 4.4.2 packages and now Nepomuk apparently finishes its indexing work. In my case, it stops at a (reasonable) 143.492 files. Nice. As far as I can tell, Nepomuk periodically re-checks the index. It blazes through the indexed folders, not taking much time per folder, but overall, considering the number of indexed files, it takes quite a while. Unfortunately, about as long as the checking interval. So, in effect, Nepomuk appears to be re-checking its index most of the time, in the process using more than 100% CPU (dual core) among virtuoso, strigi, and other nepomukservices. Apparently, a new /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukstrigiservice is started every 8 or 9 minutes. from ~/.xsession-errors I can't see anything that indicates that these processes are crashing. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003281830.58099.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Nepomuk: re-checking the strigi index constantly
On Sunday 28 March 2010, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> Apparently, a new
> /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukstrigiservice
> is started every 8 or 9 minutes. from ~/.xsession-errors I can't see
> anything that indicates that these processes are crashing.
Well, strace and gdb know better. Indexing is interrupted, when an
assert statement fails and causes a SIGABRT
# strigi-0.7.1/src/streamanalyzer/lineeventanalyzer.cpp:180
void
LineEventAnalyzer::handleUtf8Data(const char* data, uint32_t length) {
assert(!(sawCarriageReturn && missingBytes > 0));
I haven't tried to understand the code intimately, but from looking
around a bit, I gather that this is to ensure that multi-byte characters
are complete when the end of line is reached. I take it that one of my
files is either containing broken UTF-8 or strigi mistakes it for UTF-8
when actually it isn't.
Now, I'm wondering, is this something I ought to report as a bug against
strigi or is the problem with Nepomuk for not logging abnormal
termination of child processes? Or is it pdftotext for apparently
producing invalid UTF-8 from a PDF (iconv doesn't complain about it,
though)?
Michael
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Re: Nepomuk: re-checking the strigi index constantly
On Wednesday 31 March 2010, Carsten Pfeiffer wrote: > Am Dienstag, 30. März 2010 schrieb Michael Schuerig: > > Now, I'm wondering, is this something I ought to report as a bug > > against strigi or is the problem with Nepomuk for not logging > > abnormal termination of child processes? Or is it pdftotext for > > apparently producing invalid UTF-8 from a PDF (iconv doesn't > > complain about it, though)? > > All of the above ;-) > > I'd say that > - nepopmuk or strigi should notice that it crashed on a file and put > it into some blacklist until its mtime changes > - strigi should keep on indexing the other files instead of > restarting - pdftotext as the originator of the file ought to be > fixed Done. https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2979889&group_id=171000&atid=856302 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232814 I'm not completely certain that pdftotext really does anything wrong. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003311153.19221.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Nepomuk: re-checking the strigi index constantly
On Wednesday 31 March 2010, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Dienstag 30 März 2010 schrieb Michael Schuerig:
> > On Sunday 28 March 2010, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> > > Apparently, a new
> > > /usr/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukstrigiservice
> > > is started every 8 or 9 minutes. from ~/.xsession-errors I can't
> > > see anything that indicates that these processes are crashing.
> >
> > Well, strace and gdb know better. Indexing is interrupted, when an
> > assert statement fails and causes a SIGABRT
> >
> > # strigi-0.7.1/src/streamanalyzer/lineeventanalyzer.cpp:180
> > void
> > LineEventAnalyzer::handleUtf8Data(const char* data, uint32_t
> > length) {
> >
> > assert(!(sawCarriageReturn && missingBytes > 0));
>
> That sounds simular to my bug report (see mail "nepomuk strigi
> service crashed too often" in this list):
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/232395
Similar, but probably not the exact same. In my case, there are no
indications in ~/.xsession-errors that anything went wrong. I've seen
messages of the "crashed to[o] often" kind for *other* problems, but not
for this specific one.
/usr/bin/nepomukservicestub and nepomukservices aren't very helpful as
the process name, have you tried looking at the complete commandline? In
top it's toggled by pressing 'c'.
AFAIUI, Soprano is part of the storage backend used by Nepomuk, whereas
Strigi belongs to the frontend retrieving the (meta)data. Your problem
appears to occurs, when Nepomuk tries to store data in Soprano. Then the
question is, where that data comes from and why it is malformed.
Michael
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Konqueror doesn't show when launched from Kickoff or panel
First things first, this problem only occurs for my "normal" user account, it's not there for a fresh user. When I launch Konqueror as Web Browser from Kickoff or from its Panel icon, internally kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing is executed, which in turn starts konqueror --silent. This Konqueror instance remains totally silent, it doesn't show a window or give any other outward signs of being alive. I've tried this, too, with another When I start konqueror --silent from the command line, it just sits there read-polling on /tmp/.X11-unix/X0. By contrast, konqueror without any options opens a browser window. As I understand it, and I may be wrong, silent konqueror processes are a performance boost configurable in Settings > Configure Konqueror > Performance. In my case, 1 instance is meant to be kept around (no preloading). konqueror --silent, presumably, is intended to explicitly start such a spare instance. However, in my case this spare instance is never used as each new launch of Konqueror from Kickoff results in a new konqueror --silent process. I've exchanged konquerorrc and webbrowsing for copies from the fresh account, but this didn't make a difference. Therefore, I take it, the problem is hidden in some other part of my configuration Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201004071949.53111.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Konqueror doesn't show when launched from Kickoff or panel
On Wednesday 07 April 2010, jedd wrote: > On Wednesday 07 April 2010 18:49:52 Michael Schuerig wrote: > > First things first, this problem only occurs for my "normal" user > > account, it's not there for a fresh user. > > I'd be trying (just in case) grep -Ri silent ~/.kde/ Nothing there. > > When I start konqueror --silent from the command line, it just sits > > there read-polling on /tmp/.X11-unix/X0. By contrast, konqueror > > without any options opens a browser window. > > If you're happy to use strace (speculating) you could try to > check what other files it is deferring to on startup. I've already found out the polling mentioned above through strace. Unfortunately, it didn't help me much. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201004072304.43304.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: EOL of KDE SC 4.4.2 in qt-kde.debian.net
On Saturday 10 April 2010, Modestas Vainius wrote: > Hello, > > KDE SC 4.4.2 packages in qt-kde.debian.net have been superseded by > packages uploaded to official Debian experimental archive and > therefore they were removed from the semi-official repository. As it > was written on the introductory page of qt-kde.debian.net, the > repository itself will remain to exist and might get some random > extremely bleeding edge updates from time to time. Feel free to keep > it in your /etc/apt/sources.list. I'm wondering, if new KDE packages are uploaded to experimental, what is the proper way to upgrade? With the separate archive, it was possible to do a $ sudo aptitude -t experimental-snapshots dist-upgrade However, doing the same with -t experimental updates the entire system to experimental, which is presumably not what most people want. Is there a way to only upgrade KDE-related packages from experimental? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201004101538.39008.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: EOL of KDE SC 4.4.2 in qt-kde.debian.net
On Saturday 10 April 2010, Modestas Vainius wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On šeštadienis 10 Balandis 2010 16:38:38 Michael Schuerig wrote:
> > However, doing the same with -t experimental updates the entire
> > system to experimental, which is presumably not what most people
> > want. Is there a way to only upgrade KDE-related packages from
> > experimental?
>
> Bump priority of experimental to 101 (/etc/apt/preferences):
>
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=experimental
> Pin-Priority: 101
>
> and do a normal dist-upgrade:
>
> # aptitude dist-upgrade
In my case, that makes aptitude ask about upgrading several ruby
packages (apparently there's currently a change from -2 to -3 in
progress in unstable), but nothing KDE-related is going to get upgraded.
I can see, though, that newer versions are available.
$ apt-cache policy kdebase
kdebase:
Installed: 5:58~rc4
Candidate: 5:58
Version table:
5:58 0
101 http://debian.netcologne.de experimental/main Packages
*** 5:58~rc4 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
5:55 0
990 http://debian.netcologne.de unstable/main Packages
Michael
$ apt-cache policy
Package files:
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
release a=now
990 http://debian.netcologne.de unstable/non-free Packages
release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia
Packages,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=non-free
origin debian.netcologne.de
990 http://debian.netcologne.de unstable/main Packages
release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia
Packages,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main
origin debian.netcologne.de
101 http://debian.netcologne.de experimental/non-free Packages
release o=Debian,a=experimental,n=experimental,l=Debian,c=non-free
origin debian.netcologne.de
101 http://debian.netcologne.de experimental/contrib Packages
release o=Debian,a=experimental,n=experimental,l=Debian,c=contrib
origin debian.netcologne.de
101 http://debian.netcologne.de experimental/main Packages
release o=Debian,a=experimental,n=experimental,l=Debian,c=main
origin debian.netcologne.de
990 http://debian.netcologne.de unstable/non-free Packages
release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=non-free
origin debian.netcologne.de
990 http://debian.netcologne.de unstable/contrib Packages
release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=contrib
origin debian.netcologne.de
990 http://debian.netcologne.de unstable/main Packages
release o=Debian,a=unstable,n=sid,l=Debian,c=main
origin debian.netcologne.de
Pinned packages:
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Re: EOL of KDE SC 4.4.2 in qt-kde.debian.net
On Saturday 10 April 2010, Modestas Vainius wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On šeštadienis 10 Balandis 2010 19:12:33 Michael Schuerig wrote:
> > $ apt-cache policy kdebase
> >
> > kdebase:
> > Installed: 5:58~rc4
> > Candidate: 5:58
> >
> > Version table:
> > 5:58 0
> >
> > 101 http://debian.netcologne.de experimental/main Packages
> >
> > *** 5:58~rc4 0
> >
> > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> >
> > 5:55 0
> >
> > 990 http://debian.netcologne.de unstable/main Packages
>
> This clearly shows that dist-upgrade should pick up newer kdebase
> (see Candidate version).
It should, alas, it doesn't. See below. I can go through possible
solutions until there aren't any more, but KDE packages never show up.
Does this work for others?
Michael
$ sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information... Done
Initializing package states... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
odbcinst1debian2{ab}
The following packages will be upgraded:
libruby1.8{b} libruby1.8-dbg odbcinst ri1.8 ruby1.8{b} ruby1.8-dev
6 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 6.072kB of archives. After unpacking 1.573kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
ruby1.8: Conflicts: irb1.8 but 1.8.7.249-2 is installed.
Conflicts: rdoc1.8 but 1.8.7.249-2 is installed.
odbcinst1debian2: Conflicts: odbcinst1debian1 but 2.2.11-21 is
installed.
libruby1.8: Conflicts: libdbm-ruby1.8 but 1.8.7.249-2 is installed.
Conflicts: libgdbm-ruby1.8 but 1.8.7.249-2 is installed.
Conflicts: libreadline-ruby1.8 but 1.8.7.249-2 is
installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
1) apt-listbugs
2) irb1.8
3) libdbm-ruby1.8
4) libgdbm-ruby1.8
5) libgettext-ruby-util
6) libgettext-ruby1.8
7) libreadline-ruby1.8
8) odbcinst1debian1
9) rdoc1.8
Tier: Safe actions, Remove packages (1)
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
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Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable
On Wednesday 05 May 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In 4.3, this is not true. From what I hear on upstream mailing > lists, this won't be true in 4.5. Upstream is already aware and > working on the issue, but it falls under "new feature" so it won't > be included in the 4.4.x line. Do you have a pointer to the discussion? As far as the safety of your data is concerned, none of your emails are stored in MySQL (yet). Mail storage is still in the file system, Akonadi is only used for contacts. That said, I'd be much happier myself without having to run yet another database server on my machine. Right now there are "global" instances of PostgreSQL and MySQL (personal and for work); on top of that, for each logged-in user, Akonadi runs a private MySQL server as well as a virtuoso server. Incidentally, virtuoso is a SQL database in its own right, persumably fully capable of completing supplanting MySQL in this case. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201005060148.32290.mich...@schuerig.de
Virtuoso 6.1.1+dfsg1-1 breaks Nepomuk
I noticed that Nepomuk has stopped working for me, the reason presumably being that the virtuoso-t process is no longer running. I restarted the session, still virtuoso-t does not run, however, I see that files in /.kde/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend have been touched. As the virtuoso packages in unstable have been upgraded recently, I gather that something in there isn't working with Nepomuk anymore. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201005082057.47484.mich...@schuerig.de
update-notifier-kde, freespacenotifier: where's the UI?
The description for freespacenotifier says This module notifies the user when space is running out in /home or in one of the other directories, where you can configure freespacenotifier to monitor. And indeed, in the package contents I can see some configuration related files. However, I can't find a way to get to a settings window. For update-notifier-kde, apparently, there is nothing to configure. In both cases the package description would be much more informative if it gave a hint as to what the supposed UI is, how users are informed of things. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006021538.14338.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: update-notifier-kde, freespacenotifier: where's the UI?
On Wednesday 02 June 2010, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2010-06-02, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > The description for freespacenotifier says > > > > This module notifies the user when space is running out in > > /home or in one of the other directories, where you can configure > > freespacenotifier to monitor. > > > > And indeed, in the package contents I can see some configuration > > related files. However, I can't find a way to get to a settings > > window. > > The configuration window is available only when freespacenotifier > notifies you about lack of free space. It is available thru the > notification. > > > For update-notifier-kde, apparently, there is nothing to configure. > > Nope. there is nothing to configure. What would you like to be able > to configure? > > /Sune > - debian maintainer of freespacenotifier > - debian maintainer and upstream developer of update-notifier-kde I don't want to configure anything, I would just like to know or be able to easily find out what to expect from these packages. I think in both cases it would be nice to have a README that states something like this "This package runs a background process managed by the KDE daemon. It watches for and alerts the user through the KDE notification system if that condition is met." Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006021823.38439.mich...@schuerig.de
update-notifier (was: update-notifier-kde, freespacenotifier: where's the UI?)
On Thursday 03 June 2010, Valerio Passini wrote: > The update-notifier is nice, but I would like to know how it > retrieves the information it displays (presumably, from apt). If > this is the case, is there a demon running in background or apt is > called by update- notifier? Today in VT (ctrl+alt+F1) there was a > message asking to reboot, Is this message related in anyway to > update-notifier? These are questions that can be interesting to be > answered to in the README/man page you are preparing. > Thank you I was wondering about that, too, and while trying to figure it out, discovered that I hadn't noticed considerable earlier changes to apt. Please note that my following remarks refer only to sid/unstable! First a bit about dependencies: kde-standard depends on update-notifier- kde which in turn depends on update-notifier-common. Apt itself has, apparently for quite some time (years!), had the options that trigger periodic updates of the list of available packages. However, judging only from my own experience and the fact that I had never heard of them, these options have not been widely used. So far, that is. Because now update-notifier-common installs /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic which contains APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "1"; thereby enabling automated daily updates of the package list. More details can be found in /etc/cron.daily/apt I have to admit that I was taken slightly aback by these changes and I'm not yet sure whether there is anything I need to do in order to make things work the way I want. As far as I can tell, documentation is non- existent or just not where I looked. Well, it's called "unstable" for a reason, after all. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006030253.23877.mich...@schuerig.de
Replacement for guidedog, firewall config UI
I've had a look what's still holding back parts of KDE 3 on my system and found KGhostView, KDirStat, and Guarddog. The former two I can do without, but I've come to like guarddog for configuring the firewall on my notebook. Guarddog first of all provides ease of use, not just a GUI. So something like KMyFirewall wouldn't be a suitable replacement, even if it were available for KDE 4. I really don't want a tool that makes me crawl around at iptables level. As a non-GUI candidate, I'm considering firehol. It's provides a high level of abstraction and I have already used it on servers. Are there any suggestions from the KDE space? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006062257.07531.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Replacement for guidedog, firewall config UI
On Monday 07 June 2010, godo wrote: > On 06/06/2010 10:57 PM, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > I've had a look what's still holding back parts of KDE 3 on my > > system and found KGhostView, KDirStat, and Guarddog. The former > > two I can do without, but I've come to like guarddog for > > configuring the firewall on my notebook. > > > > Guarddog first of all provides ease of use, not just a GUI. So > > something like KMyFirewall wouldn't be a suitable replacement, > > even if it were available for KDE 4. I really don't want a tool > > that makes me crawl around at iptables level. > There is guarddog for Squeeze and Sid: > http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&suite=all§ion=al > l&keywords=Guarddog I know, I'm using it. It depends on KDE 3.5.x whose days will come to an end soon-ish. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006070033.12925.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Problem with kmail and email filter rules
On Saturday 12 June 2010, Dietz Pröpper wrote:
> Hi,
>
> at least since update to kde 4.4. I encounter a little problem
> with kmail's email filtering. The filter seems unable to correctly
> apply the "address is in address book" condition, means, even mails
> with addresses that are in the address book are not caught by the
> rule.
>
> Can anyone reproduce that?
Now that you're saying it... Yes, I was wondering, too, why I haven't
seen notifications anymore[*].
Michael
[*] kdialog --title "New mail from" --passivepopup '%{From}' &
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Re: Problem with kmail and email filter rules
On Saturday 12 June 2010, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Saturday, 2010-06-12, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > On Saturday 12 June 2010, Dietz Pröpper wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > at least since update to kde 4.4. I encounter a little problem > > > with kmail's email filtering. The filter seems unable to > > > correctly apply the "address is in address book" condition, > > > means, even mails with addresses that are in the address book > > > are not caught by the rule. > > > > > > Can anyone reproduce that? > > > > Now that you're saying it... Yes, I was wondering, too, why I > > haven't seen notifications anymore[*]. > > Possible causes: > - addresses not accessible through Akonadi (can easily be checked by > running KAddressBook and looking for the contacts in there) Well, when I just looked at my Contacts in Kontact, only the names were shown, not the details. After restarting Kontact, the details are there, too. I've gotten used to that :-( > - Nepomuk Contact Feeder not running. This is one of Akonadi's helper > processes, should have been autostarted. Can be checked by running > "akonadiconsole" "Personal Contacts" as well as "Nepomuk Contact Feeder" are running. There was an unconfigured "akonadi_kbac_resource_0" which I removed as I'm not using the "Traditional Addressbook". Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006122030.59116.mich...@schuerig.de
Copying data and settings from old to new computer?
I'm getting a new computer in the next few days and, of course, I need to move my data from the old to the new one. In the past, I have simply copied copied ~/.kde, but I hope to find another way, this time. Over the years, quite a bit of cruft has accumulated in that directory and I'd like to get rid of that. Besides, KDE has grown beyond its own directory and puts data in, e.g., ~/.local. -- Is the safest solution to copy /home in its entirety and sort out the cruft manually? Also, as I'm moving from 32-bit to 64-bit, I'm concerned if all data formats are compatible? Specifically regarding data stored in Akonadi's MySQL and Virtuoso databases (are there SQLite databases around, too?). So, I'm wondering, whether there is an "official" way of copying data? What's been working for others on this list? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006150755.13144.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Copying data and settings from old to new computer?
On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > If it can't work without reboot or cleaning the configuration its > broken. My oppinion about this is that simple. As I'm now mostly through the migration, I can tell you that all the databases break on the change from 32 to 64 bit. The Desktop Search database (virtuoso) doesn't work anymore. The Akonadi database (MySQL server) doesn't work anymore, but if you know your way with mysqldump you have a chance to extract the data and insert it again in the new database. Amarok is a different case. It uses an embedded MySQL engine (mysqle) and I haven't found a way to dump that. The upshot? I had to rescan my entire music collection and lost my ratings and statistics in the process. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006162012.32090.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Copying data and settings from old to new computer?
On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Mittwoch 16 Juni 2010 schrieb Michael Schuerig: > > On Wednesday 16 June 2010, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Amarok is a different case. It uses an embedded MySQL engine > > (mysqle) and I haven't found a way to dump that. The upshot? I had > > to rescan my entire music collection and lost my ratings and > > statistics in the process. > > But not this one. > > Maybe you can dump it, if you install a 32 bit - I don't know if a 64 > bit MySQL will work - MySQL server and put the directory I tried to do that on the old machine. Using a MySQL 32-bit *server* to run with the MySQLe data dir. Didn't work. > Maybe there is another command for dumping an MySQL embedded > database. Did you use a search engine to find something like that? I was unable to find anything relevant on the web. I'm using MySQL (if I can't use PostgreSQL) for software development and these are details even I am not familiar with, I would expect an ordinary user to have any idea of them. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006162216.27363.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Copying data and settings from old to new computer?
On Thursday 17 June 2010, Valerio Passini wrote: > > I tried to do that on the old machine. Using a MySQL 32-bit > > *server* to run with the MySQLe data dir. Didn't work. > > > > > Maybe there is another command for dumping an MySQL embedded > > > database. Did you use a search engine to find something like > > > that? > > > > I was unable to find anything relevant on the web. I'm using MySQL > > (if I can't use PostgreSQL) for software development and these are > > details even I am not familiar with, I would expect an ordinary > > user to have any idea of them. > > > > Michael > > Shortly, I'd suggest to use a whole backup of your home directory > it's faster and you don't lose any data. Later, you can start > removing stuff here and there or cleanup your configuration. I have multiple backups of everything. The problem here is that they just don't work on different architectures. Anyway, I have apparently managed quite well with judicious copying of stuff from ~/.kde. But I was only able to do so, because my understanding of how things work is rather above that of an ordinary user. > About the 32bit/64bit issue. From what I have read around (mainly > here: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql/212521) you can migrate your > MySQL db using "dumps" (I don't know what they are, but it seems > feasible). Yes, that's what I did for my *regular* MySQL (and PostgreSQL) database running on a database server. I just haven't found any way to dump the data from an *embedded* MySQL database such as Amarok uses. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006171054.01125.mich...@schuerig.de
Akonadi agents?
Can anyone enlighten me or point me to an explanation of what the various Akonadi agents do? Looking at akonadiconsole, I found that I had several duplicate agents for Personal Contacts and some other resources. I trimmed them down to - Personal Contacts, using /home/michael/.local/share/contacts/ - Nepomuk Contact Feeder - Another vcard resource for a single read-only vcard file - Mail Dispatcher Agent (what's that for) - std.ics, using /home/michael/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/std.ics - Birthdays & Anniversaries Note that I only deleted obvious duplicates and unconfigured agents. I have no clear idea what agents for "Bookmarks", "Dummy MailTransport Resource", "Maildir", "Mbox", "POP3", "Notes", "Nepomuk Tags", "Usenet Newsgroups" are good for. None of these are or were running. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006211722.08793.mich...@schuerig.de
Where does Kontact save contacts?
I'm flabbergasted. I thought I understood where and how Kontact/KAddressbook saves contact data, i.e. in ~/.local/share/contacts. So it says in the properties for my "Personal Contacts" address book. Well, if I change any contact information, Kontact does save it somewhere, as the change is still there are a restart. But the change does *not* show up in that directory. The address book is not marked as "read only" and the directory is writable. KDE is from current unstable. (My parallel posting on Akonadi agents may be relevant.) Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006211722.11982.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Where does Kontact save contacts?
On Monday 21 June 2010, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Monday, 2010-06-21, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > I'm flabbergasted. I thought I understood where and how > > Kontact/KAddressbook saves contact data, i.e. in > > ~/.local/share/contacts. So it says in the properties for my > > "Personal Contacts" address book. Well, if I change any contact > > information, Kontact does save it somewhere, as the change is > > still there are a restart. But the change does *not* show up in > > that directory. > > > > The address book is not marked as "read only" and the directory is > > writable. KDE is from current unstable. > > That sounds like a bug, the resource should have written the file > moments after the contact got added to Akonadi. > > Can you run "akonadiconsole" and check what the status of the > resource is? When you click on it, the bottom section should show > something like "Status: Online, Idle" The resource is online, idle an has been every time I looked. In the meantime, I've restarted Kontact multiple times, but as far as I can tell from the modification times and file contents in that directory, changes are not written. Neither are they picked up, when I change one of the .vcf files there manually. So, the interesting question remains: where are my contacts? Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006211922.08175.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Where does Kontact save contacts?
On Monday 21 June 2010, Robert van den Berg wrote: > On Monday 21 June 2010 17:22:11 Michael Schuerig wrote: > > I'm flabbergasted. I thought I understood where and how > > Kontact/KAddressbook saves contact data, i.e. in > > ~/.local/share/contacts. So it says in the properties for my > > "Personal Contacts" address book. Well, if I change any contact > > information, Kontact does save it somewhere, as the change is > > still there are a restart. But the change does *not* show up in > > that directory. > > > > The address book is not marked as "read only" and the directory is > > writable. KDE is from current unstable. > > > > (My parallel posting on lAkonadi agents may be relevant.) > > > > Michael > > Did you look for your contacts in /home/$user/.kde/share/apps/kabc/? I did look there, but kabc/std.vcf isn't supposed to used anymore and indeed is not. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006211924.19110.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Akonadi agents?
On Monday 21 June 2010, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Monday, 2010-06-21, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > Can anyone enlighten me or point me to an explanation of what the > > various Akonadi agents do? > > Sure. > > Agents are helper processes, that do things on behalf of the user > applications. > You can think of them as being similar to system daemons, just on a > user session level. Kevin, thanks for the explanation. There's one crucial thing I'm not clear about yet: Are the resource agents -- supposed to be -- the path of access to the given resource? I don't have resources for notes and bookmarks, still KNotes sees its notes and Konqueror as well as the Bookmark Editor have access to their bookmarks. I take this to mean that these programs access the data around the resource agents. The same might be true for contacts and calendar in Kontact. > > I have no clear idea what agents for "Bookmarks", "Dummy > > MailTransport Resource", "Maildir", "Mbox", "POP3", "Notes", > > "Nepomuk Tags", "Usenet Newsgroups" are good for. None of these > > are or were running. > > Dummy MailTransport Resource sounds like a development related > thingy, i.e. not something that should be installed in a normal > system. > Probably an error in upstream's build system files. I don't quite understand what the purposes of the mail-related agents are. Does Nepomuk use them to index mail? Where and how are they configured "publicly"? I can configure them in akonadiconsole, but that's a development tool. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006211937.02666.mich...@schuerig.de
Re: Akonadi agents?
On Monday 21 June 2010, Kevin Krammer wrote: > On Monday, 2010-06-21, Michael Schuerig wrote: > > On Monday 21 June 2010, Kevin Krammer wrote: [snip] Thanks a lot for the elaboration. Michael -- Michael Schuerig mailto:mich...@schuerig.de http://www.schuerig.de/michael/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006212057.00675.mich...@schuerig.de
