How to rescue a screwed up install of KDE on wheezy
I'll try to summarize quickly: kde-full was installed on a newishly installed wheezy OS. When I rebooted I got a KDM login and was then dropped into an X session with only a terminal emulator and black backdrop. No icons, panels or etc. Further no menus produced by clicking any mouse buttons. I could run other apps but then they would be plastered up into the top right corner covering the terminal ... and both would have the title bar just out of reach beyond the top screen boundary so they could not be moved around. At that point I uninstalled kde-full. Rebooted into console and reinstalled kde-full That is where I am at now and once again a reboot ends in the same sorry mess as before, and described above. I see many broken packages when running `aptitude search ^kde|grep ^i' I will in line that information at the end. Some other info for prospective posters: cat /etc/issue Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid \n \l grep '^[^#]' /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main aptitude search ^kde|grep ^iB ( a grep of just installed) iBA kde-plasma-desktop - KDE Plasma Desktop and minimal set of appl iBA kde-plasma-netbook - KDE Plasma Netbook and minimal set of appl iBA kde-window-manager - K window manager (KWin) iBA kdebase-bin - core binaries for the KDE base application iBA kdebase-workspace-bin - core binaries for the KDE Plasma Workspace iBA kdemultimedia-kio-plugins - transparent audio CD access for applicatio iBA kdepasswd - graphical password changing utility iBA kdepim-runtime - Runtime components for akonadi-kde iBA kdepim-wizards - KDE server configuration wizards iBA kdesdk-kio-plugins - transparent Subversion access and Perl doc iBA kdesdk-misc - miscellaneous tools from the KDE Software ---- ---=--- - ---- ---=--- - aptitude search ^kde |grep ^i i A kde-config-cddb - CDDB retrieval configuration i A kde-config-cron - program scheduler frontend i kde-full- complete KDE Software Compilation for end i A kde-icons-mono - monochromatic icons theme iBA kde-plasma-desktop - KDE Plasma Desktop and minimal set of appl iBA kde-plasma-netbook - KDE Plasma Netbook and minimal set of appl i A kde-standard- KDE Plasma Desktop and standard set of app iBA kde-window-manager - K window manager (KWin) i A kdeaccessibility- accessibility packages from the official K i A kdeadmin- system administration tools from the offic i A kdeartwork - themes, styles and other artwork from the i A kdeartwork-emoticons- emoticon collections for chat clients i A kdeartwork-style- widget styles for applications using Qt or i A kdeartwork-theme-window - window decoration for the K Window manager i A kdebase-apps- base applications from the official KDE re iBA kdebase-bin - core binaries for the KDE base application i A kdebase-data- shared data files for the KDE base applica id kdebase-runtime - runtime components from the official KDE r id kdebase-runtime-data- shared data files for the KDE base runtime i A kdebase-workspace - KDE Plasma Workspace components iBA kdebase-workspace-bin - core binaries for the KDE Plasma Workspace i A kdebase-workspace-data - shared data files for the KDE Plasma Works i kdebase-workspace-kgreet-plugin - KDE greet libraries for authentication i A kdeedu - educational applications from the official i A kdeedu-kvtml-data - kvtml files for kdeedu programs i A kdegames- games from the official KDE release i A kdegames-card-data - card decks for KDE games i A kdegames-mahjongg-data - tilesets and backgrounds for Mahjongg game i A kdegraphics - graphics applications from the official KD i A kdegraphics-libs-data - data files for libraries from the kdegraph i A kdegraphics-strigi-plugins - graphics file format plugins for Strigi De i A kdelibs-bin - core executables for KDE Applications i A kdelibs5-data - core shared data for all KDE Applications i A kd
Re: How to rescue a screwed up install of KDE on wheezy
Scott Ferguson writes: >> >> When I rebooted I got a KDM login and was then dropped into an X >> session with only a terminal emulator and black backdrop. No >> icons, panels or etc. Further no menus produced by clicking any mouse >> buttons. That was bad information, and it appears much of your reply is based on it. When I saw a gui login I assumed it was KDE, it turned out not to be. Apparently it was GNOME... But it did not appear like the gnome login I've seen before. So up to now I've still not managed to raise a kde login. I'm proceeding with your other instructions and will report back when done. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87y5wtzq26@newsguy.com
Re: How to rescue a screwed up install of KDE on wheezy
Scott Ferguson writes: > - > NOTES: I don't know your location, shouldn't matter much, but you're > using US mirrors for the sources.list. This can be modified, if, for > instance, you are in the UK. > > Contrib is non-free packages used/suggested by Main. > > That is a minimal sources.list. You can also add the "non-free" > repositories if you wish (not necessary). Doesn't mean you have to pay, > just means their are licensing restrictions on those packages. To add > non-free repositories just append "non-free" to *both* sources lines eg.:- > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free > deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free > > Additionally there are "proposed updates" eg.:- > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free > deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-proposed-updates main > contrib non-free > > *Any changes to /etc/apt/sources.list should be followed by*:- > # apt-get update > - Unless you meant for any of the URLs in the notes section to be included my sources.list already matched what you posted. I'm now adding contrib and non-free and running apt-get update -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ty7hzpth@newsguy.com
Re: How to rescue a screwed up install of KDE on wheezy
Scott Ferguson writes: > Check and see whether adding contrib (and non-free) means you are now > missing some "recommended" packages:- > # apt-get -sf install | more I get the message below... is that what I should be seeing: Building dependency tree... Reading state information... The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: knetwalk kpat kdepim kolf ksystemlog blinken kde-config-cddb krdc krfb kdesdk python-aeidon kscd kppp kshisen kmahjongg kcharselect kjumpingcube kdeartwork-style kanagram libksane0 cervisia akonadiconsole kblocks knode katomic kdesdk-kio-plugins kdegames-card-data kruler kolourpaint4 libkeduvocdocument4 python-levenshtein ktux klettres libkdegames5a kgoldrunner libkastencore4 libkmahjongglib4 libkiten4 kgeography libcfitsio3 kaccessible kblackbox bomber kiriki libkggzgames4 konsolekalendar liboktetagui4 palapeli-data kde-config-cron kstars kbruch kcolorchooser advancecomp kapptemplate libkastengui4 libkggznet4 umbrello libkggzmod4 kdemultimedia-kio-plugins parley libscience4 libserf-0-0 kontact kmplot kdiamond liboktetakastencontrollers4 kalzium subversion cantor-backend-kalgebra ksirk ksquares klinkstatus klickety libkcddb4 kde-icons-mono kalarm blogilo kdegames-mahjongg-data kalzium-data kdewebdev kdegames amor rocs ktouch kgeography-data libsvn1 kremotecontrol kdeedu-kvtml-data kdeaccessibility kbreakout kbounce kfourinline kdetoys kimagemapeditor granatier valgrind libkdeedu-data kollision qhull-bin kamera lokalize kwordquiz libkastencontrollers4 ktron bovo ttf-sjfonts kdenetwork step kdewallpapers krosspython kuser klettres-data kreversi kdf kspaceduel libkrossui4 kig rdesktop ksudoku kalgebra liboktetakastengui4 klines kdemultimedia kstars-data python-iniparse edict lskat kdenetwork-filesharing kgamma kcachegrind kfilereplace kommander kubrick python-dateutil kdeutils kdegraphics khangman marble killbots kapman kanjidic kdeartwork-theme-window python-enchant libc6-dbg poxml translate-toolkit parley-data kpartloader cvsservice kbattleship cantor kdeadmin kdegraphics-strigi-plugins kompare ffmpegthumbs python-vobject filelight libkdeeduui4 ktimetracker kdepim-strigi-plugins liboktetakastencore4 kiten okteta liboktetacore4 kdesdk-misc palapeli kdeedu kjots kmines kdesdk-strigi-plugins kdesdk-scripts libqhull5 kgpg konquest system-config-printer-kde kigo kmousetool optipng kuiviewer kmag libkdcraw9 gnugo ktuberling kturtle ktimer kteatime kdeartwork kmtrace Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87pqi5zoy4@newsguy.com
Re: How to rescue a screwed up install of KDE on wheezy
Victor Nitu writes: > On 10/09/2011 07:37 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> kde-full was installed on a newishly installed wheezy OS. >> >> When I rebooted I got a KDM login and was then dropped into an X >> session with only a terminal emulator and black backdrop. No >> icons, panels or etc. Further no menus produced by clicking any mouse >> buttons. > What exactly were your options in KDM login? I mean, which sessions > could you have chosen then? Sorry... that was an error on my part. I saw a gui login and just took it to be the kde one. It did not look like the gnome one. Turned out not to be the kde login after all. So to this point I have never yet raised a kde login. I can get an X session by going to a virtual terminal and starting fluxbox on display :1 with startx -- :1 (and with .xinitrc set to execute startfluxbox) Sorry for the mis-information -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87listzoro@newsguy.com
Re: How to rescue a screwed up install of KDE on wheezy
Scott Ferguson writes: >>> You only need one login manager - you currently have both the GNOME one, >>> and the KDE one installed, and clearly, you a .xinitrc as well. >>> Fluxbox can be started from kdm as well. So:- >>> $ mv ~.xinrtc ~xinitrc.bak >>> # dpkg-reconfigure kdm So far having just 1 would not have been so smart. Ditto for .xinitrc dpkg-reconfigure kdm now done (on reboot I see no improvment) I logged in as different user so .xinitrc should not have been a factor. It was a gnome gui login. However gdm3 was taken out of service some time back with rcconf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Sep 29 09:52 x-session-manager -> /usr/bin/gnome-session lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Sep 29 09:52 x-session-manager.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/gnome-session.1.gz lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Oct 2 18:29 x-window-manager -> /usr/bin/metacity lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 Oct 2 18:29 x-window-manager.1.gz -> /usr/share/man/man1/metacity.1.gz #!/bin/sh # /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc # # global xinitrc file, used by all X sessions started by xinit (startx) # invoke global X session script . /etc/X11/Xsession #!/bin/sh exec /usr/bin/X -nolisten tcp "$@"
Re: How to rescue a screwed up install of KDE on wheezy
Scott Ferguson writes: > I'll be more informed when you get a chance to send the correct > information (my mistake) below. But it appears that all you need to do > is reconfigure kdm so that it loads before your (user) login, and remove > .xinitrc from your (user) profile. scott, I haven't see the material you asked for turn up here yet. Is it likely the massive output of dpkg --get-selections would get the post barred from the list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878vot1r61@newsguy.com
Re: How to rescue a screwed up install of KDE on wheezy
Victor Nitu writes: > On 10/10/2011 05:15 AM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> >>> And attach the output to your reply to this post ie.:- >>> selections.txt >>> sources.list >>> sessions.txt >>> default_dm.txt >>> default-display-manager > At a first glance I wonder why would you need both gdm3 *and* kdm > installed. If I were you, I would "apt-get remove gdm3" if planning to > use exclusively kde. > Did you "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" ? > I have to read the other outputs as well, what's your progress by now? > Anything changed? So far gdm3, is the only one that has worked. Yes, I've done the dpkg-reconfigure kdm It appears not to have changed anything. On reboot I got a gnome login. However if I login to it, I get dropped into an X-session with a gnome-terminal running, but it is slammed up into the top right corner... the title bar is just enough up that it cannot be accessed and therefore not moved. There are no icons or panels, just a black backdrop. I can start other apps from the terminal that is running, but then they are slammed up into the top right and their title bar is inaccessible. So the new one covers the terminal and etc. I'm pretty sure all that weirdness is because gdm3 is not running. Why kde will not start is beginning to be a bit of a puzzle. I could not even start it by going to a virtual terminal, checking to make sure kdm is running, and then typing startkde. It gives back something about $DISPLAY not being set, so since startkde takes no cmdline args I did DISPLAY=0;export DISPLAY but still get the same output. I only wanted KDE, because of something Scott F told me about being able to zoom into the desktop and end up with a panning desktop. I don't even like kde otherwise. Its starting to look like an awful lot of work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/874nzh1qjz@newsguy.com
Re: How to rescue a screwed up install of KDE on wheezy
Scott Ferguson writes: I have to go to bed now. Its well past an old mans bedtime here in Indian, USA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87zkh9zfm1@newsguy.com
Re: How to rescue a screwed up install of KDE on wheezy
Scott Ferguson writes: [...] > rcconf!? Yes, rcconf, not `recconfg' as you say further down > OK - that explains a bit you have Fluxbox/Blackbox/Fvwm, GNOME, > *and* now KDE installed (that's a lot of desktop environments) - and > you've customized the start up services. I actually uninstalled fvwm some time ago, you might notice the dpkg --get-selections shows it: fvwmdeinstall fvwm-crystaldeinstall fvwm-crytal, although well hyped by some... really sucked. > But - if you removed gdm3 from the startup process using rcconfg - how > come you login using it? > > Without asking a lot more information it's hard (for me) to give a > simple fix Thankfully as it happens all yours and Victors help has finally brought the desired result. This morning on bootup the kde greeter has finally appeared. And I've successfully logged into a full kde environment. ---- ---=--- - Victor Nitu writes: [...] >>> It was a gnome gui login. > OK, let's take it slowly. > When you're at the login prompt, whatever it may be, ctrl+alt+f1 and > from the tty login as root. > $ invoke-rc.d gdm3 stop > That should really stop gdm3 if removal from startup was unsuccessful. > After this step, you may try, as Scott said: > $ /etc/init.d/kdm start > > From this point on, I can only wait for your reply. [...] As you see above It all seems to be working on this mornings' bootup. Apparently just diabling gdm3 was sufficient after all. I have successfully logged into a full KDE desktop environment. Many thanks for your kind help. ---- ---=--- - Scott Ferguson writes: [...] > Not sure what you mean by "here" - I'm assuming you mean gmane? (I don't > use it - I have email). > Have a look and see what posts have been recieved:- > http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2011/10/threads.html I mean here on my newsreader view. And yes gmane. With emacs/gnus The posts appeared a short time after I mentioned it. Thank you for all your good help, even though you were made to chase the story line across several threads and newsgroups. Very much appreciated here. The whole purpose of getting into a kde desktop was to try the `zooming' thing you mentioned in an earlier thread, where one is able to zoom into the screen with the effect of having a panning desktop as the result. I've only just started looking around but I haven't run across anything that I recognized as being related to that. I expected to find it in some kind of screen or display dialog. I was asked to set my preferred screen size but the top size was the same we've known right along. 1440x900 When ever you get back online and have the time, I'd like for you to explain how to do the `Zooming' you spook of in: Message-ID: <4e8facd8.30...@gmail.com> , | From: Scott Ferguson | Newsgroups: gmane.linux.debian.user | Subject: Re: `Xorg -configure' failure | Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 12:52:24 +1100 | Message-ID: <4e8facd8.30...@gmail.com> ` I haven't seen anything I recognized as being related to that yet, but of course have just started looking around. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8762jxueln@newsguy.com
About pagers in kde
Are there other pagers than the default one that appears in a vanilla kde install? I see tiny little pager boxes, way to small to show icons. You can get a list by raising each tiny box, but I'd prefer to see the icons and therefore know all in one glance rather than having to raise each tiny box to see whats there. Plus there seems no way to drag applications around by means of the pager. Or really even any way to focus on an application. The list disappears as soon as the mouse leaves a boxes' borders. Selecting `Display icons' in pager settings does not appear to actually do that.. or is talking about icons somewhere else perhaps. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r52kudas@newsguy.com
about authentication in kde system setup tool
Running wheezy On a recently installed kde desktop environment, I'm getting confused about being prompted when attempting to make certain changes. I get a prompt that is about authentication. A drop down list says `Select user', however my user that I'm logged in as is not there, nor is root. And yet I cannot continue without making a selection. I don't understand what is expected of me there. Surely I would not want to select another user to have permission to alter my desktop. Here is a sequence: >From main menu/system settings/ Login screen/ In the font selector use `choose' button to change font and size/ Say `OK' then press `apply', at that point an authentication dialog pops up: Administrator authorization is required to change the login Manager settings. An application is attempting to perform an action that requires privileges Authentication is required to perform this action ---- ---=--- - Then a dropdown list that says `select user' when I drop the list down none of them are my user, nor root. How is that supposed to work? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/874nzghkqe@newsguy.com
Re: About pagers in kde
Mirosław Zalewski writes: > By the way, I prefer Desktop Grid KWin's Desktop Effect. It provides fast way > to see all workspaces and windows. You can focus any window, drag them > between > workspaces, drag entire workspaces and add/delete workspaces on the fly. I > have > switched keyboard bidding to Ctrl+Shift+D, which I find pretty convenient. To > be honest, this is one of few reasons I have switched from Fluxbox to KDE :) > . > You should definitely give it a try. You must not be talking about the grid setting at right click/desktop settings - right? Turning that on, doesn't seem to do much of nothing but allow a shaded area with + - on it on any border when you hover the mouse there. I can't see any workspaces but the one I'm in. Are you talking about some other package? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fwj0e47o@newsguy.com
Re: About pagers in kde
Harry Putnam writes: > Turning that on, doesn't seem to do much of nothing but allow a shaded > area with + - on it on any border when you hover the mouse there. I take that back. It seems to have turned on an annoying `New activity' tab, that refuses to go away now. Even when I go back to the default desktop. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87botoe3qq@newsguy.com
How to back out desktop type experiments
Running wheezy I'm New to modern kde. I seem to have altered the desktop in a way I don't really like. At right click/Desktop settings/ layout tab Starting from the default, I tried all those listed there, and saw nothing that seemed like something I cared about so went back to the default. But now it seems that some of the autostart things I use think that they are running from ~/Documents For example: On kde startup I have 2 emacs daemon started. They run in the background and I can attach to them with emacsclient commands. Prior to fooling around with the different style desktops those daemon were running on ~/, so if I asked emacs to show me the directory it was running from with C-x d it would show ~/. Or if I wanted to edit a file in ~ I would say C-x C-f ~/file. But now it shows ~/Documents Its something of an annoyance and requires me to rehome the frame when ever I use a emacslient cmd if I want to find files or whatever in ~/ instead of ~/Documents/ I also notice a new small panel in upper right vertical screen boundary that says `New Activity'. There seems to be no way to get rid of it. Far as I know it was not there before I monkeyed around with desktop styles. Is there someway to back out to the default setup one sees on first logging into new kde desktop? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sjmzvb01@newsguy.com
Re: How to back out desktop type experiments
Mirosław Zalewski writes: > On 11/10/2011 at 16:49, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> But now it seems that some of the autostart things I use think that they >> are running from ~/Documents Thanks.. that looks like a good way to fix it. [...] > Do you mean the (in)famous cashew logo? In upper right corner on this > screenshot: > <http://minio.xt.pl/obrazy/pulpity/02062011.jpg> > > It is there by default. I think that there are some ways to remove it, but I > have never really cared that much to try. Yup... I must have just not noticed it before... I thought it had appeared from my tinkering. So like you say, its not that big a deal. [...] > All configuration is in ~/.kde/, especially ~/.kde/share/config/ > Removing (renaming) that directory will make KDE create new with default > values on startup. But please note, that there are also configuration files > for > other KDE-related apps, like Kmail or Konqueror. You may wish to delete only > specific files (or delete all but some specific files). Yeah I thought about renaming the existing .kde but it seems a little more drastic than necessary to fix my small gripes Thanks again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877h4bmkhl@newsguy.com
Re: How to back out desktop type experiments
Facundo Aguilera writes: > Try with systemsettings -> Account Details -> Paths -> Documents Path . Thanks, yup that straightened it out -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8739ezmkgv@newsguy.com
Re: about authentication in kde system setup tool
Harry Putnam writes: > Running wheezy > > On a recently installed kde desktop environment, I'm getting confused > about being prompted when attempting to make certain changes. > > I get a prompt that is about authentication. A drop down list says > `Select user', however my user that I'm logged in as is not there, nor > is root. And yet I cannot continue without making a selection. > > I don't understand what is expected of me there. Surely I would not > want to select another user to have permission to alter my desktop. > > Here is a sequence: > , | >>From main menu/system settings/ Login screen/ | > In the font selector use `choose' button to change font and size/ | > Say `OK' then press `apply', at that point an authentication dialog | > pops up: | > | > Administrator authorization is | > required to change the login | > Manager settings. | > | > An application is attempting to perform an | > action that requires privileges | > Authentication is required to perform this | > action | > | > ---- ---=--- - | > | > Then a dropdown list that says `select user' when I drop the list | > down none of them are my user, nor root. | > | > How is that supposed to work? ` Since this thread seems to have died, I'd lick to ask if any experienced user here can say whether what I described in OP is in fact a bug, or if it does not happen on their installation. To summarize: 1) Following the recipe quoted above. (inside the boxquote some 12 to 20 lines above this one.) On the dialog described their, the dropdown list only shows other users. Not me and not root. Am I completely misunderstanding what this is supposed to do or is it a small bug and my user and root should be on that list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87obxnjeov@newsguy.com
Re: about authentication in kde system setup tool
Diederik de Haas writes: > I wouldn't be surprised if it has sth to do with sudo. When > installing Debian using the debian-installer, you have the option to > create a root account. I . . . . Thanks for the helpful input. I would never have arrived at the info on my own. Had no idea sudo could make a difference. In the instant case I too created root account at install, but later and before installing KDE, I did install sudo. But still, should not that list also show the user whos login session it is? I hope someone with more knowledge on this will respond. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87zkh6igdb@newsguy.com
what is this panel?
I have been tinkering around with setting on a newly installed KDE desktop and now I have an odd looking panel in lower right corner that does not appear to be movable or amenable to showing any properties on right/left click. See the screen grab below: <>
Re: what is this panel?
Brad Rogers writes: > On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:32:59 -0500 > Harry Putnam wrote: > > Hello Harry, > >> I have been tinkering around with setting on a newly installed KDE >> desktop and now I have an odd looking panel in lower right corner that >> does not appear to be movable or amenable to showing any properties on >> right/left click. > > It's to do with "Notifications & Jobs". Click on the "i" in a circle, > which should be located just below the progress meter you're seeing, in > the taskbar. Oh, thanks. Since I have the bottom panel set to hide unless I mouse over it... I never say the circled I you mention. It was a hung up copy job in Konqueror. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87botmi92j@newsguy.com
What to do about [B]roken kde pkgs (as reported by aptitude)
I seem to have a rather high percentage of kde pkgs that are listed as [B]roken by `aptitude'. What can I do to fix that? Just re-installing the pkgs seems to have no effect on the Broken status. They nearly all seem to have the `[A]utomatic' flag too. So I tried removing the Automatic mark first and then re-installing but it made no difference -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sjmxtzwy@newsguy.com
Re: about authentication in kde system setup tool
R33D3M33R writes: > Hello, > > try to run System settings via: > > kdesudo systemsettings Thanks, that worked... Doesn't answer the question of whether how it works by default is a bug or not though... > You can later also change the menu entry to this command (if it will work). > I'm not seeing how that is done. Clicking the default (left bottom) main menu button, under applications I see an entry `settings'. I right click expecting to get a chance to edit properties but no such item on right click menu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sjmsq5uh@newsguy.com
How can I find the path to various icons
On the main kde menu, I have several icons in the first area (favorites) I expected to be able to right click and get the properties of the icon as one can do in gnome, but that hows other information and nothing about what the icon is linked to (path wise). How can I get that information. A detailed example: An icon for Virtual Box appears in my `Favorites' How can I determine what executable and how it is called. Moreover, how can I edit that call? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fwiluus1@newsguy.com
Re: How can I find the path to various icons
Scott Ferguson writes: First, I've snipped the bulk of your input. It hit the mark and very helpful, thank you. For some reason VB is under Utilities for me, rather than System. Other than that, I found everything I asked for. I've left your first comments below because it raised another related point I wanted to get at. [...] >> A detailed example: >> >> An icon for Virtual Box appears in my `Favorites' > > It will also appear elsewhere (launcher => System => VirtualBox) > Favourites is just a shortcut to the launcher entry. A word of explanation: I put VB under favorites my self. Here is why. First it looked like a long job to find it by hand; so I used the search box to find it... I still could not determine where it was in the menus. Seems like something I should be able to see from the `search' output (the path to the icon in the menus) But since I couldn't and I didn't want to use search every time... I drug it to `favorites' since that is the first thing that opens. I say all that to point up the fact that (In my opinion) the path information would often be nearly as useful as finding the item. It seems a serious shortcoming to the menu `search' dialog, that it does not provide the path (inside the menus) for the items it finds. PS - what does %F mean at the end of a command path, such as the one for emacs23: /usr/bin/emacs23 %F. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871uu4vb7y@newsguy.com
Re: How can I find the path to various icons
Mirosław Zalewski writes:
[...] snipped excellent input.
> . . . . You will be able to modify properties of that
> icon. Modifying them will transparently copy .desktop file into your
> ~/.local folder and modify it. To see changes in kickoff ("start
> menu"), you will have to restart it. Simply logging out and logging
> in will do the job. You can safely remove icon from your desktop
> afterward.
Thanks. That list bit was especially helpful because it would not be
at all obvious.
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Re: How can I find the path to various icons
Mirosław Zalewski writes: > On 23/10/2011 at 01:49, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> PS - what does %F mean at the end of a command path, such as the one >> for emacs23: /usr/bin/emacs23 %F. > > It is described in .desktop file specification. Take a look: > <http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s06.html> > You can read all about .desktop files there. Just click "Home" link at the > bottom of the page to get a table of contents. from your cited URL. A list of files. Use for apps that can open several local files at once. Each file is passed as a separate argument to the executable program. I figured it was something like that. Something akin to the shells $@. But that doesn't make much sense in the properties of an ICON. How does one pass a list of files when clicking on a menu of icons? So I didn't think it would be just inserted gratuitously but it seems to be so. eh? For example, I see the %F in the properties of the emacs icon.. Or is it expected that user would drag a file to the icon and drop it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87hb30t17e@newsguy.com
Re: How can I find the path to various icons
Mirosław Zalewski writes: > So %F is not in icon (which indeed would not make much sense), but in Exec > value. That way opening few text files in emacs (from Dolphin) will not spawn > multiple emacs instances. For Kickoff it makes no difference, since you can't > select any files from it. I get it a bit better now... thanks. > Hope I have cleared some things up and I apologize in advance if my message > is > a bit harsh. You have nothing to apologize for... thanks for taking time to clear it up. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fwijjrlg@newsguy.com
Make running program icons appear in 1 virtual Desktop
What or where can I set something so that the running program icons that appear across the system tray at bottom only appear in the virtual desktop that started them. It's not the one under `Workspace Behaviour' [] Different Widgets For each desktop But I think I've seen it before... cannot find it now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877h3b8yid@newsguy.com
Re: Make running program icons appear in 1 virtual Desktop
Diederik de Haas writes: > On Monday 07 November 2011 21:32:10 Harry Putnam wrote: >> What or where can I set something so that the running program icons >> that appear across the system tray at bottom only appear in the >> virtual desktop that started them. > > Task manager settings? (Right-click the taskbar to get access to it). Ahh thank you... yup, thats it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87wrbbbcqh@newsguy.com
how to ditch kde completely
I want to change desktop to lxde but also to be rid of all the kde pkgs now installed. I suspect one could get into quite a mess by just start `aptitude remove' ing things, so wondered if anyone has worked out some kind of procedure to follow so far getting rid of kde? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877gz4xw87@newsguy.com
