Re: Akonadi not starting
Hi Kevin, On that URL previously posted, there was a comment regarding the problem (as yet unresolved) of handling mail systems that used a combination of mbox and maildir. I gather maildir is the preferred way these days - and on my desktop computer I used to use this all the time as the default. mbox, though, has advantages when dealing with mailing list folders containing thousands of messages - mostly when it comes to copying those (think rsync). The delay is not the size of the content - it's a relatively trivial - it's the pain of rsync having to index several thousand files and then compare them each individually. Hence .. my hybrid arrangements. And I doubt I'm the only person left running mbox & maildir concurrently. Anyhoo ... > I think it is 100MB (configurable) per database daemon. > Transaction logs of the InnoDB backend of mysql or something like > that. Yes .. I get that. I run a local mysql database server already,and I think this stuff they're talking about is the shared ibdata1 file yeah? If so, then it shouldn't be an extra 100+MB hit for very additional user. If it's 100MB of 'wrapper' stuff *within* the DB, for every *user*, then we're up for a major hit. I strongly suspect it's the former, however. With the start-server=false stuff ... I was getting lots of annoying errors on kontact startup, and this was after I had resorted to completely erasing my .kde & .kde4 sub-dirs and starting again - so I should have had a pristine set of KDE defaults - as defined by the KDE & Debian dev/maintainers. I fought with Akonadi for a little while -- too many other bugs from KDE 4 were being fought for the first few days -- and then set up a DB manually in mysql, and re-configured the akonadi config to suit. It seems to work, but I notice in the Akonadi console that two of my apps aren't using Akonadi yet .. though the distinction, for me, of what that actually means is still a little fuzzy. By which I mean, because Akonadi is a pipe, rather than a store, I'm not sure if I need to change contacts/addressbook and notes (etc) or if that'll just happen over time with new releases. I'm unsure whether to just mention what I did here (in case it's of use to other travellers) or to point at my web site where I'm annotating various 4.2.2 woes (and fixes). Akonadi's config is not located under .kde - which is an interesting call .. but I can see the reasoning. For future reference - if you modify this file: ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc And my system is set thus: [QMYSQL] Name=akonadi_jedd User=akonadi_jedd Password=secret Options= ServerPath=/usr/sbin/mysqld StartServer=false Host=localhost I used that database name because I'll have multiple users attaching to the same database server. I used that user name for obvious reasons. I removed Options because it seemed to be confusing the restart of the service. I have StartServer set to false because I'm using a real mysqld, not wanting Akonadi to start its own. I set host to point to my mysql host, of course. I had to log out and back in again to trigger this - as akonadictl wasn't doing what I thought it should. Jedd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Akonadi not starting
On Tuesday 14 April 2009, jedd wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > On that URL previously posted, there was a comment regarding the > problem (as yet unresolved) of handling mail systems that used a > combination of mbox and maildir. I gather maildir is the preferred way > these days - and on my desktop computer I used to use this all the > time as the default. mbox, though, has advantages when dealing with > mailing list folders containing thousands of messages - mostly when it > comes to copying those (think rsync). The delay is not the size of > the content - it's a relatively trivial - it's the pain of rsync > having to index several thousand files and then compare them each > individually. Hence .. my hybrid arrangements. And I doubt I'm the > only person left running mbox & maildir concurrently. Ah. That comment is referring to KMail's local directory tree, where it mixes maildir and mbox as mail folders. There is no support yet to map this directly into a single Akonadi resource, however it is already possible to access maildir (recursively IIRC) and mbox (coming with 4.3) through separate resources. > Anyhoo ... > > > I think it is 100MB (configurable) per database daemon. > > Transaction logs of the InnoDB backend of mysql or something like > > that. > > Yes .. I get that. I run a local mysql database server already,and > I think this stuff they're talking about is the shared ibdata1 file > yeah? If so, then it shouldn't be an extra 100+MB hit for very > additional user. If it's 100MB of 'wrapper' stuff *within* the DB, > for every *user*, then we're up for a major hit. I strongly suspect > it's the former, however. It mostly a per daemon overhead, not per database. Something used internally by the InnoDB backend of MySQL, can't remember the details. > I fought with Akonadi for a little while -- too many other bugs from > KDE 4 were being fought for the first few days -- and then set > up a DB manually in mysql, and re-configured the akonadi config > to suit. It seems to work, but I notice in the Akonadi console > that two of my apps aren't using Akonadi yet .. though the > distinction, for me, of what that actually means is still a little > fuzzy. By which I mean, because Akonadi is a pipe, rather > than a store, I'm not sure if I need to change contacts/addressbook > and notes (etc) or if that'll just happen over time with new releases. I am not aware of any way Akonadiconsole could display which apps are not using Akonadi. It is basically a developer tool interface for the resource/agent configuration usually available through KDE's system settings. Since you started with an empty .kde dir you probably haven't got any resources. Or maybe one file resource for vcard and ical? Someone migrating from a previous KDE setup should get one Akonadi resource per KDE kresource they had, e.g. one vcard resource for every file based addressbook they had. Client side migration, i.e. using KResource plugins which access data in Akonadi, have been disabled for the 4.2 series since that part has proven to be more difficult than anticipated. It is, as an option, available through manual intervention though. > I'm unsure whether to just mention what I did here (in case it's > of use to other travellers) or to point at my web site where I'm > annotating various 4.2.2 woes (and fixes). Wouldn't hurt to let others know about the web site IMHO. > Akonadi's config is not located under .kde - which is an interesting > call .. but I can see the reasoning. Well, it is not a KDE service, so putting it under .kde would not make much sense. .config or rather $XDG_CONFIG_HOME (defaulting to $HOME/.config) is the standard location pro configs as proposed by the freedesktop.org base directory specification. > For future reference - if you modify this file: > ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc > > And my system is set thus: > [QMYSQL] > Name=akonadi_jedd > User=akonadi_jedd > Password=secret > Options= > ServerPath=/usr/sbin/mysqld > StartServer=false > Host=localhost > > I used that database name because I'll have multiple users attaching > to the same database server. I used that user name for obvious > reasons. I removed Options because it seemed to be confusing the > restart of the service. I have StartServer set to false because I'm > using a real mysqld, not wanting Akonadi to start its own. I set > host to point to my mysql host, of course. Yes, this is how it is supposed to be for a shared and adminstrated mysql instance. I mentioned StartServer in my other reply because the mail I was replying to had that set to false despite pointing the Qt SQL plugin to a local socket. I am not even sure you need the ServerPath variable, I think it is only needed when StartServer is true. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message p
Re: I can not run KDE - it simply hangs on booting when splash screen shows blinking HDD.
Good day, Adrian. Thank You for Your reply: >What hardware are you running? It is a laptop with AMD Turion64x2, 2 Gb RAM, ATI X1100. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: I can not run KDE - it simply hangs on booting when splash screen shows blinking HDD.
Good day, Lisi. Thank You for Your reply: >Surely it is 3.9.10 in Lenny? At least, it is here. Now it is *.10 but the problem remains still. It is weird to notice but all KDE applications are slow to start when are run from WM. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: I can not run KDE - it simply hangs on booting when splash screen shows blinking HDD.
Good day, Boyd. Thank You for Your reply: >AIUI, I think it is a bit of a mix. Do You have any solution? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: I can not run KDE - it simply hangs on booting when splash screen shows blinking HDD.
Good day, BenjamÃ. Thank You for Your reply: >Meanwhile fam-daemon is working hard? I just have installed fam package, started it, run KDE - hangs again on "Initializing services" (blinking HDD icon). After long waiting the splash screen simply disappears and I can see empty screen w/ login wallpaper. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
kstars, kdeedu and indi in kdeedu 4.2.2-1
Hello, I have noticed the 'devices' menu in kstars is missing from kstars, despite the fact that the kstars manual has a complete chapter regarding the control of hardware devices. After researching a little bit I found that this is caused by the fact that kstars apparently is not build to use indi support : # ldd `which kstars` | grep indi returns no results. I also note that the package indi has nothing but some generic documentation in it. And by searching the upstream kstars-devel mailing list it looks like the upstream developers have separated indi library development from the kstars package. However I cannot make out if this is still part of kdeedu. So I'm wondering if the indi library has disappeared from upstream kdeedu. Or should I file a bug report on kstars and/or indi? Yours, Gerrit Jan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
