Re: My assesment

2009-04-12 Thread Ferdi Thommes
Am Sunday 12 April 2009 02:32:10 schrieb George Bodley:
> KDE 4.2 is a huge mistake.  I installed it on Sidux and need to look for a
> different distro or Desktop.  It really is bad.  You need or Debian or
> Sidux needs to give us back our old KDE 3.5

Your statement is very general.
We at sidux will release KDE4 properly integrated with sidux-2009-02 but if 
your complaints are pointed at KDE4 in general, you might want to look at 
different desktops. Many people have installed KDE4 to sidux in the past few 
days and it is mostly very fine except for a few glitches. 
Thanks to debian-kde team for the hard work and an overall good release.

greetz
devil

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Re: My assesment

2009-04-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 April 2009 01:32:10 George Bodley wrote:
> KDE 4.2 is a huge mistake.  I installed it on Sidux and need to look for a
> different distro or Desktop.  It really is bad.  You need or Debian or
> Sidux needs to give us back our old KDE 3.5

Lenny?  Or do you actually need cutting edge?

Lisi


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Re: lenny, amarok and last.fm

2009-04-12 Thread Lorenzo Bettini

Modestas Vainius wrote:

Hello,

On 2009 m. March 10 d., Tuesday 23:16:19 chaos wrote:

Thanks.
It is a bad news :( I am not ready to go on testing and amarok2. For
last.fm I will try to use package lastfm.
Well, you probably can stop waiting as it is no longer going to be useful 
anyway:


http://blog.last.fm/2009/03/24/lastfm-radio-announcement


yeah, very sad news :'(

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Re: Glitches: knotes, klipper, kmail, login manager config

2009-04-12 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Domingo, 12 de Abril de 2009, Michael Schuerig escribió:
> I'm learning new things all the time. I only knew about AltL with the
> left mouse button to move a window around. Still, are (k)notes supposed
> to behave like this, i.e., to be only resizable with this trick or is
> there a bug lurking?

I suppose is a bug. You should be able to resize a note, and not only through 
a somewhat obscure combination.

I've found no bugs reported against the problems you said, and I've also found 
one that is important to me: I use plain text notes, and but I set different 
one different font in each one. This settings were not kept after the 
upgrade. I can set the font, and then write _new_ text with this font, 
though.

All three things are worth reporting, IMHO. I will fill bugs when I find time 
if nobody goes ahead me.

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Re: My assesment

2009-04-12 Thread Dietz Pröpper
Lisi Reisz:
> On Sunday 12 April 2009 01:32:10 George Bodley wrote:
> > KDE 4.2 is a huge mistake.  I installed it on Sidux and need to look
> > for a different distro or Desktop.  It really is bad.  You need or
> > Debian or Sidux needs to give us back our old KDE 3.5
>
> Lenny?  Or do you actually need cutting edge?

Isn't it called "bleeding edge" ;-)


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Re: My assesment

2009-04-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 April 2009 16:45:55 Dietz Pröpper wrote:
> Lisi Reisz:
> > On Sunday 12 April 2009 01:32:10 George Bodley wrote:
> > > KDE 4.2 is a huge mistake.  I installed it on Sidux and need to look
> > > for a different distro or Desktop.  It really is bad.  You need or
> > > Debian or Sidux needs to give us back our old KDE 3.5
> >
> > Lenny?  Or do you actually need cutting edge?
>
> Isn't it called "bleeding edge" ;-)

Probably my age showing. ;-)

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Re: My assesment

2009-04-12 Thread George Bodley
I'm not criticising Sidux.  I know it's a great team and a wonderful
distribution.  If there is anyway to keep the legacy KDE functionality I
would appreciate it.  As I can't myself liking KDE 4.x any more than I like
Gnome. I hope you will be doing an xfce release as well for 2009.02.  My
immediate solution was a complete reinstall of 2009.01 in order to continue
using KDE 3.x  What I miss most in  KDE 4 is a good taskbar, and konqueror
just as it was in 3.x

On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Ferdi Thommes  wrote:

> Am Sunday 12 April 2009 02:32:10 schrieb George Bodley:
> > KDE 4.2 is a huge mistake.  I installed it on Sidux and need to look for
> a
> > different distro or Desktop.  It really is bad.  You need or Debian or
> > Sidux needs to give us back our old KDE 3.5
>
> Your statement is very general.
> We at sidux will release KDE4 properly integrated with sidux-2009-02 but if
> your complaints are pointed at KDE4 in general, you might want to look at
> different desktops. Many people have installed KDE4 to sidux in the past
> few
> days and it is mostly very fine except for a few glitches.
> Thanks to debian-kde team for the hard work and an overall good release.
>
> greetz
> devil
>
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> _
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>


Re: My assesment

2009-04-12 Thread Jean-Damien Durand
Concerning konqueror, apart the search plugin that I am also missing (and 
unless I did not looked carefully enough to available packages or the 
settings), it is better than before IMHO - in particular pages with flash, 
with which version 3.5 is/was bad, frankly (nspluginviewer fault, perhaps).

Just curious about what is wrong with Konqueror in KDE 4.

Thanks, Cheers, JD.

On Sunday 12 April 2009 18:57:53 George Bodley wrote:
> What I miss most in  KDE 4 is a good taskbar, and konqueror
> just as it was in 3.x




Re: My assesment

2009-04-12 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Jean-Damien Durand wrote:

> Concerning konqueror, apart the search plugin that I am also missing (and
> unless I did not looked carefully enough to available packages or the
> settings), it is better than before IMHO - in particular pages with flash,
> with which version 3.5 is/was bad, frankly (nspluginviewer fault,
> perhaps).

r...@champaran:~$ apt-cache show konq-plugins   

Package: konq-plugins   
   
Priority: extra 
   
Section: utils  
   
Installed-Size: 10016   
   
Maintainer: Debian KDE Extras Team  
   
Architecture: i386  
   
Version: 4:4.2.2-1  
   

 Web navigation plugins :   
  
 - Search Bar : launch web searches from the konqueror toolbar  
  
^^
 These plugins are not part of the official KDE4 desktop, they are a
  
 extragear software and may get out of sync of konqueror.   
  
Enhances: konqueror 
  

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Re: My assesment

2009-04-12 Thread Jean-Damien Durand
On Sunday 12 April 2009 20:08:52 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> Jean-Damien Durand wrote:
> > Concerning konqueror, apart the search plugin that I am also missing (and
> > unless I did not looked carefully enough to available packages or the
> > settings), it is better than before IMHO - in particular pages with
> > flash, with which version 3.5 is/was bad, frankly (nspluginviewer fault,
> > perhaps).
>
> r...@champaran:~$ apt-cache show konq-plugins

Thank you ! During my dist-upgrade konqueror did not get upgraded (see my post 
"apt-get dist-upgrade followup") and I had to did it manually, clearly forgot 
about this plugin. Shame.
Thanks, Cheers, JD.


I can not run KDE - it simply hangs on booting when splash screen shows blinking HDD.

2009-04-12 Thread Sthu Deus
Good day.

I can not run KDE - it simply hangs on booting when splash screen shows
blinking HDD.

I use therefore WM for now, but when I run KDE apps. I see long hanging
before I actually see the apps. itself: kate (this one complains on
mime/types), korhanizer, k3b, terminal-emu...

If You have any suggestion how I can solve it, please, share it with me.

It is Lenny, KDE 3.5.9 . I did install KDE latter after installing my
base system - therefore, I never seen it is working on the installation.

Thank You for Your time.


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Pin to keep kde3.5.9?

2009-04-12 Thread Jan De Luyck
Hello,

After several unsuccessful tries... does anyone know what I have to pin/hold 
to keep KDE 3.5.9 instead of 4.2.2 in unstable?

Kind regards,

Jan
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KDE 4 version of amarok, koffice, etc. in unstable

2009-04-12 Thread Matthias
Hi!

When do you plan to move all KDE 4 applications to unstable?

Because currently, e.g. amarok uses the .kde4 directory while the KDE base 
system uses .kde which is ... messy.

regards
matthias


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Re: My assesment

2009-04-12 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 21:07:59 +0200, Jean-Damien Durand wrote:
> On Sunday 12 April 2009 20:08:52 Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:
> > Jean-Damien Durand wrote:
> > > Concerning konqueror, apart the search plugin that I am also missing (and
> > > unless I did not looked carefully enough to available packages or the
> > > settings), it is better than before IMHO - in particular pages with
> > > flash, with which version 3.5 is/was bad, frankly (nspluginviewer fault,
> > > perhaps).
> >
> > r...@champaran:~$ apt-cache show konq-plugins
> 
> Thank you ! During my dist-upgrade konqueror did not get upgraded (see my 
> post 
> "apt-get dist-upgrade followup") and I had to did it manually, clearly forgot 
> about this plugin. Shame.

You can run

aptitude -F '%p%d' search '!~i~Dkdelibs5'

to get a list (with short descriptions) of currently not installed
packages that depend on the new kde library - a good way to find
overlooked packages and to discover shiny new toys.

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Re: I can not run KDE - it simply hangs on booting when splash screen shows blinking HDD.

2009-04-12 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 12 April 2009 20:20:05 Sthu Deus wrote:
> It is Lenny, KDE 3.5.9

Surely it is 3.9.10 in Lenny?  At least, it is here. 

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Re: My assesment

2009-04-12 Thread Ferdi Thommes
Am Sunday 12 April 2009 18:57:53 schrieb George Bodley:
> I'm not criticising Sidux.  I know it's a great team and a wonderful
> distribution.  If there is anyway to keep the legacy KDE functionality I
> would appreciate it.  As I can't myself liking KDE 4.x any more than I like
> Gnome. I hope you will be doing an xfce release as well for 2009.02.  My
> immediate solution was a complete reinstall of 2009.01 in order to continue
> using KDE 3.x  What I miss most in  KDE 4 is a good taskbar, and konqueror
> just as it was in 3.x
>
Of course we will release sidux-2009-02 with xfce as well as with KDE4.
But as far as sidux is concerned KDE3 is dead and gone.

> > greetz
> > devil
> >
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Re: I can not run KDE - it simply hangs on booting when splash screen shows blinking HDD.

2009-04-12 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <200904122207.41283.lisi.re...@gmail.com>, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>On Sunday 12 April 2009 20:20:05 Sthu Deus wrote:
>> It is Lenny, KDE 3.5.9
>Surely it is 3.9.10 in Lenny?  At least, it is here.

AIUI, I think it is a bit of a mix.
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Re: I can not run KDE - it simply hangs on booting when splash screen shows blinking HDD.

2009-04-12 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/4/13 Sthu Deus :
> Good day.
>
> I can not run KDE - it simply hangs on booting when splash screen shows
> blinking HDD.
>
> I use therefore WM for now, but when I run KDE apps. I see long hanging
> before I actually see the apps. itself: kate (this one complains on
> mime/types), korhanizer, k3b, terminal-emu...
>
> If You have any suggestion how I can solve it, please, share it with me.
>
> It is Lenny, KDE 3.5.9 . I did install KDE latter after installing my
> base system - therefore, I never seen it is working on the installation.
>
> Thank You for Your time.

What hardware are you running?

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Re: Discussions with no sense

2009-04-12 Thread Cassiano Leal
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Sune Vuorela  wrote:

> On 2009-04-09, Enzo  wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply, Modestas. About the lack of manpower, how could I
> > contribute? I don't have a lot of free time or big knowledge, but surely
> > all starts from the beginning.
>
> The current place, where help is most welcomed no matter skill level, is
> helping with the bug load and get the bug count of non-forwarded bugs in
> debian down.
>
> on the graphs I pointed earlier, getting the green and the red line to
> almost get to each other - and make it stay that way.
>
> /Sune
>

Hey, Sune!

I might be able to help with that, if it means what I think it does --
getting debian bugs that are not packaging bugs and filing them upstream, is
that it?

If that's the case, I would be more than happy to help, even though I don't
have much spare time either.

Also, I must have missed the e-mail with the graphs, as I have no idea what
you're talking about, so if you could point me to them and also to some
beginner tips, that would be great.

I have said that many times before, but here goes again a huge thank you to
all Debian/KDE devs (well, to all of Debian for what it's worth) -- you are
doing a fantastic job! And that's from someone that has used slink, rex, bo,
hamm and slink on and off, and that still have some potato and woody
installer CDs lying around (if all that is worth anything!)! :D

Cheers,
Cassiano Leal