Re: Programmer for hire

2003-10-08 Thread Dominique Devriese
Bob Tilley writes:

> I would like to wet my feet in the Open Source pool.  Can anyone
> suggest any needy Projects?  I can do C, C++, Pascal, Assembly,
> etc. and would like to put my talents to work to give something back
> to the Community that has given my desktop so much.  

A project that I personally think is important and would be fun to
work on, is the Debian installer.  It will be the first portable
installer in any GNU/Linux distro, fills a very real need of the
Debian project, and looks very promising to me..

Maybe you can build a KDE based front-end for it, or something like
that ?

Check this page for more info:
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

cheers
domi




Update of libxrender causes relocation error on startup of KDE

2003-10-08 Thread Michael Schuerig

On startup I get an error message, "Could not start kdeinit...", and the 
first few lines of ~/.xsession-errors look like this

startkde: Starting up...
kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined symbol: 
XRenderFindStandardFormat
startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
_KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
...

KDE does start up nevertheless. This happens, apparently, after 
yesterday's update to libxrender1. I'm using the prelink package to 
prelink all executables and shared libs. To make sure the error isn't 
caused by some inconsistent state I freshly prelinked everything, but 
the error persisted afterwards. Going back to libxrender1 0.8.2-1 
helped, though. Otherwise I'm running the latest sid.

I'm not sure against which package I should file a bug report.

Michael

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Re: Programmer for hire

2003-10-08 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Tuesday 07 October 2003 16:41, Bob Tilley (AT&T) wrote:
> I would like to wet my feet in the Open Source pool.  Can anyone
> suggest any needy Projects?  I can do C, C++, Pascal, Assembly, etc.
> and would like to put my talents to work to give something back to the
> Community that has given my desktop so much.

I fully agree with David Bishop that you should find yourself a project 
you have personal interest in.
This is necessary to keep motivated through the bring inital phase where 
you very likely have to dig through lots of code other peopl wrote.

I like Dominique Devriese's suggestion to look at some Debian project.
There is always some work that is in the responsibility of the 
distributor, for example providing GUI frontends for system 
configuration, and in Debian, we are the distributor(s).

Cheers,
Kevin
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IOslave for apt-cache

2003-10-08 Thread Sylvain Joyeux
I wanted to discover the ioslaves, and for that I wrote a little one which 
provides some functionalities of apt-cache into konqueror.
More informations, with the source code, are available at
http://lpnotfr.free.fr/devel.html#kio_apt

If you give it a try, please tell me if it is useful or not for you, and if 
you want to see something included in it.
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Re: IOslave for apt-cache

2003-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2003 18:56 schrieb Sylvain Joyeux:
> I wanted to discover the ioslaves, and for that I wrote a little one which
> provides some functionalities of apt-cache into konqueror.
> More informations, with the source code, are available at
> http://lpnotfr.free.fr/devel.html#kio_apt
>
> If you give it a try, please tell me if it is useful or not for you, and if
> you want to see something included in it.

Wouldn't it make more sense to enhance kpackage instead?

HS

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Re: Update of libxrender causes relocation error on startup of KDE

2003-10-08 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 11:06:23AM +0200, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> 
> On startup I get an error message, "Could not start kdeinit...", and the 
> first few lines of ~/.xsession-errors look like this
> 
> startkde: Starting up...
> kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined symbol: 
> XRenderFindStandardFormat
> startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
> Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
> _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
> ...
> 
> KDE does start up nevertheless. This happens, apparently, after 
> yesterday's update to libxrender1. I'm using the prelink package to 
> prelink all executables and shared libs. To make sure the error isn't 
> caused by some inconsistent state I freshly prelinked everything, but 
> the error persisted afterwards. Going back to libxrender1 0.8.2-1 
> helped, though. Otherwise I'm running the latest sid.

These type of errors wrt relocation errors seem to be fairly common with
KDE. However, I have never seen them on my own box. Perhaps you need to
disable prelink completely for the error to go away? Even with the new
libxrender1 I can still run KDE fine and get no error messages related
to relocations in .xsession-errors

Chris


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Re: IOslave for apt-cache

2003-10-08 Thread Derek Broughton
From: "Sylvain Joyeux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I wanted to discover the ioslaves, and for that I wrote a little one which 
> provides some functionalities of apt-cache into konqueror.
> More informations, with the source code, are available at
> http://lpnotfr.free.fr/devel.html#kio_apt
> 
> If you give it a try, please tell me if it is useful or not for you, and if 
> you want to see something included in it.

Sounds like a good idea, but:

The requested URL /devel.html was not found on this server.




Re: IOslave for apt-cache

2003-10-08 Thread Sylvain Joyeux
Argh, sorry, it's
http://lpnotfr.free.fr/devel.shtml#kio_apt
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Re: IOslave for apt-cache

2003-10-08 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
> > http://lpnotfr.free.fr/devel.html#kio_apt
> Sounds like a good idea, but:
>
> The requested URL /devel.html was not found on this server.

http://lpnotfr.free.fr/devel.shtml#kio_apt


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Re: Update of libxrender causes relocation error on startup of KDE

2003-10-08 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 19:17, Chris Cheney wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 11:06:23AM +0200, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> > On startup I get an error message, "Could not start kdeinit...",
> > and the first few lines of ~/.xsession-errors look like this
> >
> > startkde: Starting up...
> > kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined
> > symbol: XRenderFindStandardFormat
> > startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
> > Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
> > _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
> > ...
> >
> > KDE does start up nevertheless. This happens, apparently, after
> > yesterday's update to libxrender1. I'm using the prelink package to
> > prelink all executables and shared libs. To make sure the error
> > isn't caused by some inconsistent state I freshly prelinked
> > everything, but the error persisted afterwards. Going back to
> > libxrender1 0.8.2-1 helped, though. Otherwise I'm running the
> > latest sid.
>
> These type of errors wrt relocation errors seem to be fairly common
> with KDE. However, I have never seen them on my own box. Perhaps you
> need to disable prelink completely for the error to go away? Even
> with the new libxrender1 I can still run KDE fine and get no error
> messages related to relocations in .xsession-errors

Prelinking isn't the cause of the problem, apparently. I've undone it, 
still I get an error with libxrender 0.8.3-1 but not with 0.8.2-1.

Michael

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Re: IOslave for apt-cache

2003-10-08 Thread Derek Broughton
I wrote:

> From: "Sylvain Joyeux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I wanted to discover the ioslaves, and for that I wrote a little one which
> > provides some functionalities of apt-cache into konqueror.
> > More informations, with the source code, are available at
> > http://lpnotfr.free.fr/devel.html#kio_apt
> >
> > If you give it a try, please tell me if it is useful or not for you, and if
> > you want to see something included in it.
>
> Sounds like a good idea, but:
>
> The requested URL /devel.html was not found on this server.

Ah: http://lpnotfr.free.fr/devel.shtml#kio_apt




kdeinit error

2003-10-08 Thread Craig H. Anderson
I've set up a system with testing and then loaded X,kde,and koffice
apps from unstable.  It seems to work fine, but I get this error
when I login to a kde session. 

in .xsession-errors:
startkde: Starting up...
kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined symbol: 
XRenderFindStandardFormat
startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation. 

The apt-get commands I used are: 

apt-get -t unstable install \
xserver-xfree86 xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable kword \
koffice-doc-html kspread kchart kformula kivio koshell kpresenter \
kspread kugar kdelibs4 kdelibs-data konqueror kate kmail arts \
kappfinder kate kcontrol kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins \
kdeprint kdesktop kfind khelpcenter kicker klipper kmenuedit \
konqueror-nsplugins konqueror konsole kpager kpersonalizer ksmserver \
ksplash ktip kwin libkonq4 kdm xfonts-konsole 

apt-get install xfs-xtt fftools xfonts-base 




ssh-askpass-kde?

2003-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi,

the only thing I found was ssh-askpass-kde. For cervisia, I need such an app 
but I'd rather have one for KDE instead of gnome.
Does anyone know one? Self-compiling is not a problem ;)

HS


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Re: IOslave for apt-cache

2003-10-08 Thread Derek Broughton
Hendrik wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2003 18:56 schrieb Sylvain Joyeux:
>> I wanted to discover the ioslaves, and for that I wrote a little one which
>> provides some functionalities of apt-cache into konqueror.
>> More informations, with the source code, are available at
>> http://lpnotfr.free.fr/devel.html#kio_apt
>>
>> If you give it a try, please tell me if it is useful or not for you, and if
>> you want to see something included in it.
>
> Wouldn't it make more sense to enhance kpackage instead?

Perhaps, but kpackage has always been too slow to start to use _just_ for this
sort of thing.  If it's possible for kpackage to reuse what Sylvain has
provided, that'll be great, but I quite like this and will probably use it
often.
--
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Re: Update of libxrender causes relocation error on startup of KDE

2003-10-08 Thread Tomas Hoger
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 12:17:49PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
> These type of errors wrt relocation errors seem to be fairly common with
> KDE. However, I have never seen them on my own box. Perhaps you need to
> disable prelink completely for the error to go away? Even with the new
> libxrender1 I can still run KDE fine and get no error messages related
> to relocations in .xsession-errors

I'm not sure, whether this problem is related only to prelink.  I've had
prelink-ed few libs and binaries (openoffice suggested it during install),
but I completely removed prelink and reinstalled all packages, for which
md5sum did not match.  Now I don't have any prelinked (modified) files in
system (according to debsums), but problem still remains. ;(  Any other
suggestions (besides xreneder 0.8.2)?

th.




Re: ssh-askpass-kde?

2003-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2003 21:58 schrieb Hendrik Sattler:
> the only thing I found was ssh-askpass-kde
 ^^^
I meant ssh-askpass-gnome and look for ssh-askpass-kde :)

HS

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Re: No accented chars in 3.1.4 (solution)

2003-10-08 Thread Josep Febrer
A Divendres 03 Octubre 2003 15:33, Ricardo Galli va escriure:
> Hi,
>   I'm seeing something very strange with KDE/Qt. Accented characters don't
> work in konqueror, konsole, kate... etc. (but they do in kmail, for
> example).
>
> It's even more strange that if I start any of those programs from the
> [kc]onsole, they do work perfectly.
>

I found a fix, te solution is to edit startkde and replace the line where 
appears:

LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify

by:

LD_BIND_NOW="true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify"

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Re: Update of libxrender causes relocation error on startup of KDE

2003-10-08 Thread Doug Holland
On Wed 08 Oct 2003 12:40 pm, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 October 2003 19:17, Chris Cheney wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 11:06:23AM +0200, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> > > On startup I get an error message, "Could not start kdeinit...",
> > > and the first few lines of ~/.xsession-errors look like this
> > >
> > > startkde: Starting up...
> > > kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined
> > > symbol: XRenderFindStandardFormat
> > > startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
> > > Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
> > > _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
> > > ...
> > >
> > > KDE does start up nevertheless. This happens, apparently, after
> > > yesterday's update to libxrender1. I'm using the prelink package to
> > > prelink all executables and shared libs. To make sure the error
> > > isn't caused by some inconsistent state I freshly prelinked
> > > everything, but the error persisted afterwards. Going back to
> > > libxrender1 0.8.2-1 helped, though. Otherwise I'm running the
> > > latest sid.
> >
> > These type of errors wrt relocation errors seem to be fairly common
> > with KDE. However, I have never seen them on my own box. Perhaps you
> > need to disable prelink completely for the error to go away? Even
> > with the new libxrender1 I can still run KDE fine and get no error
> > messages related to relocations in .xsession-errors
>
> Prelinking isn't the cause of the problem, apparently. I've undone it,
> still I get an error with libxrender 0.8.3-1 but not with 0.8.2-1.
>
> Michael
>
> --
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I've never had prelink turned on, and I'm getting these errors as well.  I 
suppose that rules out prelink as the source of the problem.  So far, it 
doesn't appear to be very tragic.  Asside from the error dialog, KDE still 
appears to work fine.

Doug




New Debian packages for KDevelop 3.0

2003-10-08 Thread Norman Jordan
KDevelop 3.0 is still in the alpha stage. The packages for it were
previously called
gideon
gideon-data
gideon-plugins
gideon-doc
gideon-dev

The packages are now called
kdevelop
kdevelop-data
kdevelop-plugins
kdevelop-doc
kdevelop-dev

For Debian stable, the apt-get source lines are:
deb http://people.debian.org/~njordan stable main
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~njordan/stable source/

For Debian unstable, the apt-get source lines are:
deb http://people.debian.org/~njordan unstable main
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~njordan/unstable source/

Thanks.




artsplay in sid doesn't work

2003-10-08 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
I am currently having problems with artsplay in sid. I don't get any sound 
from it at all. System sounds work and mplayer and xine also play fine.

Can anyone test this on their system?

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Re: Update of libxrender causes relocation error on startup of KDE

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Wednesday 08 October 2003 18:17, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 11:06:23AM +0200, Michael Schuerig wrote:
> > On startup I get an error message, "Could not start kdeinit...",
> > and the first few lines of ~/.xsession-errors look like this
> >
> > startkde: Starting up...
> > kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined
> > symbol: XRenderFindStandardFormat
> > startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
> > Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
> > _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root
> > ...
> >
> > KDE does start up nevertheless. This happens, apparently, after
> > yesterday's update to libxrender1. I'm using the prelink package to
> > prelink all executables and shared libs. To make sure the error
> > isn't caused by some inconsistent state I freshly prelinked
> > everything, but the error persisted afterwards. Going back to
> > libxrender1 0.8.2-1 helped, though. Otherwise I'm running the
> > latest sid.

I've also seen this, without prelink-ing anything on my system (I don't 
even OOo is prelinked). I have downgraded to 8.2-1 for the moment, as I 
doubt I will have a chance to diagnose before Sat.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ head .xsession-errors
startkde: Starting up...
kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined symbol: 
XRenderFindStandardFormat
startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
QPixmap: Cannot create a QPixmap when no GUI is being used
kbuildsycoca running...

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Re: No accented chars in 3.1.4 (solution)

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 22:26, Josep Febrer shaped the electrons to 
shout:
> > Hi,
> >   I'm seeing something very strange with KDE/Qt. Accented
> > characters don't work in konqueror, konsole, kate... etc. (but they
> > do in kmail, for example).
> >
> > It's even more strange that if I start any of those programs from the
> > [kc]onsole, they do work perfectly.
>
> I found a fix, te solution is to edit startkde and replace the line
> where appears:
>
> LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify
>
> by:
>
> LD_BIND_NOW="true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify"

This not the solution (the behaviour is quite different), but to disable 
LD_BIND_NOW.

BTW, this only happens, at least in my computers, where I use xfree 4.3, 
but not with 4.2. Chris (Cheney), can you give us some clue?



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Re: Update of libxrender causes relocation error on startup of KDE

2003-10-08 Thread Tomas Hoger
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 03:01:17PM -0600, Doug Holland wrote:
> So far, it doesn't appear to be very tragic.  Asside from the error
> dialog, KDE still appears to work fine.

It appears, but it does not work as it should. ;(  Some apps are not
started, most notably (at least for me ;) artsd and kxkb.

th.




Re: kdeinit error

2003-10-08 Thread Anders Lundgren
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Craig H. Anderson wrote:
> I've set up a system with testing and then loaded X,kde,and koffice
> apps from unstable.  It seems to work fine, but I get this error
> when I login to a kde session.
>
> in .xsession-errors:
> startkde: Starting up...
> kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined symbol:
> XRenderFindStandardFormat
> startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
>
[snip]

I've got the same problem, just upgraded...

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Re: Update of libxrender causes relocation error on startup of KDE

2003-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Mittwoch, 8. Oktober 2003 19:17 schrieb Chris Cheney:
> These type of errors wrt relocation errors seem to be fairly common with
> KDE. However, I have never seen them on my own box. Perhaps you need to
> disable prelink completely for the error to go away? Even with the new
> libxrender1 I can still run KDE fine and get no error messages related
> to relocations in .xsession-errors

I installed libarts1-dev from sid on testing which also pulled the new 
libxrender1 in. Since then, I also get the following error:
kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined symbol: 
XRenderFindStandardFormat
startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory

I also got an error message box.

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Re: artsplay in sid doesn't work

2003-10-08 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 11:35:10PM +0200, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
> I am currently having problems with artsplay in sid. I don't get any sound 
> from it at all. System sounds work and mplayer and xine also play fine.
> 
> Can anyone test this on their system?
> 
> Anders

artsplay works fine for me with both ALSA and OSS. If you are using ALSA
however and do strange things with ~/.asoundrc it may not work.

Chris


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Re: Update of libxrender causes relocation error on startup of KDE

2003-10-08 Thread Doug Holland
On Wed 08 Oct 2003 3:29 pm, Tomas Hoger wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 03:01:17PM -0600, Doug Holland wrote:
> > So far, it doesn't appear to be very tragic.  Asside from the error
> > dialog, KDE still appears to work fine.
>
> It appears, but it does not work as it should. ;(  Some apps are not
> started, most notably (at least for me ;) artsd and kxkb.
>
> th.

I just checked and I'm getting the same thing - no artsd. :(




Re: No accented chars in 3.1.4 (solution)

2003-10-08 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 11:44:55PM +0200, Ricardo Galli wrote:
> On Wednesday 08 October 2003 22:26, Josep Febrer shaped the electrons to 
> shout:
> > > Hi,
> > >   I'm seeing something very strange with KDE/Qt. Accented
> > > characters don't work in konqueror, konsole, kate... etc. (but they
> > > do in kmail, for example).
> > >
> > > It's even more strange that if I start any of those programs from the
> > > [kc]onsole, they do work perfectly.
> >
> > I found a fix, te solution is to edit startkde and replace the line
> > where appears:
> >
> > LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify
> >
> > by:
> >
> > LD_BIND_NOW="true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify"
> 
> This not the solution (the behaviour is quite different), but to disable 
> LD_BIND_NOW.
> 
> BTW, this only happens, at least in my computers, where I use xfree 4.3, 
> but not with 4.2. Chris (Cheney), can you give us some clue?

I am using XFree 4.3 as well and have never had problems with accented
chars. However, I am using kxkb with US keyboard + deadkeys, so I do not
know if that may have an effect.

What did you mean by the following:

> This not the solution (the behaviour is quite different), but to disable
> LD_BIND_NOW.


Chris


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UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Chris Cheney
Ok, I think we may have determined what the problem is.  Everyone who is
having either of the problems please try adding quotes around the var
for LD_BIND_NOW. If that works for you also check to see what the
following points to:

ls -al /bin/sh
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 2003-09-18 17:12 /bin/sh -> bash 

I think not having the quotes is wrong but that bash doesn´t care(?).
However, I do have at least one reported case where when /bin/sh points
to dash it causes the problem. dash is posix shell which would very
likely make the code fail. If this fixes the problem I will correct it
in the next upload.

Thanks,
Chris


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Re: kdeinit error

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Wednesday 08 October 2003 23:25, Anders Lundgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Craig H. Anderson wrote:
> > I've set up a system with testing and then loaded X,kde,and koffice
> > apps from unstable.  It seems to work fine, but I get this error
> > when I login to a kde session.
> >
> > in .xsession-errors:
> > startkde: Starting up...
> > kdeinit: relocation error: /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1: undefined
> > symbol: XRenderFindStandardFormat
> > startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.
>
> [snip]
>
> I've got the same problem, just upgraded...

We are working on analysing this right now, and will post to the list 
when we have a solution/workaround/explanation.

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Re: URIs [OT] (was: IOslave for apt-cache)

2003-10-08 Thread Nathaniel W. Turner
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On Wednesday 08 October 2003 12:56, Sylvain Joyeux wrote:
> More informations, with the source code, are available at
> http://lpnotfr.free.fr/devel.html#kio_apt

Dude, don't put file extensions into your URIs.  Your server has MultiViews 
support, so you can just say http://lpnotfr.free.fr/devel#kio_apt  (and that 
way, if you decide later to redo that page using cgi, mod_perl, fastcgi, php, 
plain html, xsl, or some new futuristic technology, you won't have to break 
any links to it.)

Sorry; I know that was totally off-topic.  =)

BTW, I love your apt ioslave.  I've already installed it on all my 
workstations.  =)

Cheers,
nate

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Re: No accented chars in 3.1.4 (solution)

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 00:47, Chris Cheney shaped the electrons to 
shout:
> > BTW, this only happens, at least in my computers, where I use xfree
> > 4.3, but not with 4.2. Chris (Cheney), can you give us some clue?
>
> I am using XFree 4.3 as well and have never had problems with accented
> chars. However, I am using kxkb with US keyboard + deadkeys, so I do
> not know if that may have an effect.

I have three computers with last KDEs (and kdebase from CVS) + xfree 4.3 
with the same problem. Plus one with 4.2 wihtout any problem. Locales and 
fontoconfig are the same for the four machines.

In two of my laptops (Dell X200), if I try to write , for example, "á" in 
konsole, i get "".


> What did you mean by the following:
> > This not the solution (the behaviour is quite different), but to
> > disable LD_BIND_NOW.

Just unsetting LD_BIND_NOW is enough to avoid the problem. Which has the 
same effect (accented chars work) than starting any kde application from 
a shell. So, I think is just a kdeinit problem.

I thought it could be a kdm init problem, but I see the same problem 
starting kde via startx from a text console.

Thanks.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.

To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in 
libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and 
solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.

Please bear with us. In the meantime, you can downgrade libxrender1 to 
0.8.2-1 or 0.8.2-2.

To those of you who are aware of Branden/Overfiend:

Oct 09 00:31:51  it says "OH, LOOK HERE'S A SHARED OBJECT 
WITHOUT A .SO.SOVERSION SYMLINK TO IT, WHY NO ONE COULD EVER POSSIBLY 
HAVE THINGS THAT WAY ON PURPOSE, I THINK I'LL UNCONDITIONALLY CREATE A 
SYMLINK"

:)

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 00:52, Chris Cheney shaped the electrons to 
shout:
> Ok, I think we may have determined what the problem is.  Everyone who
> is having either of the problems please try adding quotes around the
> var for LD_BIND_NOW. If that works for you also check to see what the

If you refer to adding:
 
LD_BIND_NOW="true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify"

This is wrong, because without the quotes it assigns true to LD_BIND_NOW 
and the execute kdeinit. 

By adding the quotes you assign to full string to the variable.

That means that kdeinit isn't started there (and probably LD_BIND_NOW is 
tested as "true"). But kdeinit is still started later on, so I wonder the 
what's doing exactly that line there.


> following points to:
>
> ls -al /bin/sh
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root4 2003-09-18 17:12 /bin/sh ->
> bash
>
> I think not having the quotes is wrong but that bash doesnÂt care(?).

I've all my machines linked to bash and still three of them fail, and one 
with X4.2 works

> However, I do have at least one reported case where when /bin/sh points
> to dash it causes the problem. dash is posix shell which would very
> likely make the code fail. If this fixes the problem I will correct it
> in the next upload.

I think is related to a variable initialisation in startx|startkde, but is 
not this one.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
> Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.
>
> To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
> libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
> solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.

However, I did what Chris suggested and the error disappeared. So it can't be 
totally wrong.

HS

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:33, Paul Cupis shaped the electrons to 
shout:
> Please bear with us. In the meantime, you can downgrade libxrender1 to
> 0.8.2-1 or 0.8.2-2.

I've libxrender1 0.8.2-1 and can't see the accented characters (neither 
some html ones since I compiled kdelibs/kdebase 3.1.4 against qt3.2).


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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:49, Hendrik Sattler shaped the electrons to 
shout:
> > To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
> > libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
> > solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.
>
> However, I did what Chris suggested and the error disappeared. So it
> can't be totally wrong.

Only because LD_BIND_NOW becomes false.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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People,

I think we are confident that this is not an issue with bash/dash or 
with the quoting in /usr/bin/startkde. Please leave the relevant line 
in startkde as distributed:

  LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit +knotify

When we have a solution to this libxrender/ldconfig breakage, we will 
let you all know.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Chris Cheney
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 05:52:23PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
> Ok, I think we may have determined what the problem is.  Everyone who is
> having either of the problems please try adding quotes around the var
> for LD_BIND_NOW. If that works for you also check to see what the
> following points to:

Oops I am dumb. :) It appears to have something do with XFree 4.2 vs
XFree 4.3. I have to run XFree 4.3 so haven't seen this problem myself.
I am working with Branden Robinson to help resolve this issue now.

BTW think of LD_BIND_NOW as:

LD_BIND_NOW="yes" kdeinit +kcminit +knotify

it is passing the variable to kdeinit not being misquoted. That is the
reason doing LD_BIND_NOW="yes kdeinit +kcminit +knotify" would be
incorrect.

Thanks,
Chris


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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
> Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.
>
> To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
> libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
> solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.

Just to tell you:
I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the error was gone.
That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 is used instead of the 
symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.

HS

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:23, Hendrik Sattler 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
> > Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.
> >
> > To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
> > libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
> > solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.
>
> Just to tell you:
> I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the error
> was gone. That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 is used
> instead of the symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.

Correct, this is the current thinking. Branden is compiling a new 
libxrender package now, and when tested will upload to Debian.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Ricardo Galli
On Thursday 09 October 2003 02:30, Paul Cupis shaped the electrons to 
shout:
> > Just to tell you:
> > I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the error
> > was gone. That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 is used
> > instead of the symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.
>
> Correct, this is the current thinking. Branden is compiling a new
> libxrender package now, and when tested will upload to Debian.

I'm pretty sure this is unrelated to the wrong accented characters, 
because I have no libXrender libraries in /usr/X11R6/lib/ in any of my 
machines.

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Re: UPDATE: relocation errors and accented character problems

2003-10-08 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:30, Paul Cupis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:23, Hendrik Sattler
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 9. Oktober 2003 01:33 schrieb Paul Cupis:
> > > Sorry Chris, but I think you are wrong.
> > >
> > > To all encountering this error - it appears to be breaking in
> > > libxrender1 itself, not KDE. We are working on a diagnoisis and
> > > solution right now and will post when we have a tested solution.
> >
> > Just to tell you:
> > I moved /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender* aside, ran ldconfig and the
> > error was gone. That may be because /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1
> > is used instead of the symlink /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.
>
> Correct, this is the current thinking. Branden is compiling a new
> libxrender package now, and when tested will upload to Debian.

Just to keep people up-to-date, it will be a few hours before Branden is 
ready to upload a fixed, so please either downgrade or wait for the new 
package to be built, tested and uploaded.

=== 
xrender (0.8.3-2) unstable; urgency=medium

  * Urgency medium because the problem fixed by this release bites a lot 
of KDE users who are using XFree86 4.2.0 or 4.2.1 Debian packages.

  * Add new diversion of the actual old libXrender shared object (as 
opposed to diverting only the symlinks).  This is necessary because 
ldconfig will recreate the libXrender.so.1 symbolic link in /usr/X11R6/
lib, which causes major confusion (and possibly errors from the dynamic 
loader) for anything that searches /usr/X11R6/lib before /usr/lib. /
usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1.1 is now being diverted to /usr/X11R6/
lib/xlibs.libXrender-1.1.so.1.1.  The diversion's name has to have 
"xlibs." preprended because ldconfig will attempt to operate on any 
plain file matching "lib*.so*".
- debian/libxrender1.preinst
- debian/libxrender1.postrm

  * Under duress, ship a symlink from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.la to /
usr/lib/libXrender.la.  There appears to be a bug in libtool that that 
compels it to place absolute paths to .la files in other .la files. 
This symlink should allow a transition to a non-broken libtool (or the 
eventual recompilation of all libraries that transitively depend on 
libXrender, which is a lot of them) and will be removed in the future.
- debian/libxrender-dev.links

 -- Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Wed,  8 Oct 2003 19:17:31 
- -0500
=== 

Thanks, and goodnight.

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