Re: KDE 3.1.2???

2003-05-19 Thread Chris Cheney
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 06:11:29PM -0600, Doug Holland wrote:
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> Cool.  Looks like a bug-fix & translation release.  I'm also guessing Chris 
> Cheney used prelinking when building the packages this time because of the 
> app startup time improvement.

Nope, just built as usual... prelink is something the end user runs
after package installation in any case.

I will upload the rest of KDE 3.1.2 in the next few days, I am currently
cleaning out the kdebase bug list, which started out with over 400 open
bugs, I am now down to around 280 open.

Chris




Re: howto upgrade to kde 3.1.1a

2003-05-19 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Sonntag, 18. Mai 2003 04:06, Gezim H wrote:
> Hi, I upgraded to kde 3.1.1a by adding:
> deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian stable main
> and then I did "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade"
> but when it installed it didn't look very satisfying, things like Koffice,
> games ,etc. were missing, when I tryed downloading kdevelop manually, by
> "apt-get install kdevelop"  it says:
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   kdevelop: Depends: kdelibs3 (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not going to be
> installed
> Depends: kdebase-libs but it is not going to be installed
> E: Sorry, broken packages
>
> then I try doing "apt-get install kdelibs3" which eareses all of my kde
> then I keep doing this loop.
>
> My question is:
> Is there a tutorial or a clean way to install kde 3.1.1a with everything in
> it, thus avoiding all this trouble?

apt-get remove --purge kdelibs3*

will remove all KDE 2.2 applications. kdelibs3 -> kdelibs-2.2.2, kdelibs4 -> 
kdelibs-3.1.2.

If you want KDE 3.1, you need to remove all KDE 2 apps because KDE 2 and KDE 3 
interfere with each other when both are installed in /usr (which is what is 
used as the prefix for KDE on Debian).

Ralf
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Zim
>
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Re: KDE 3.1.2???

2003-05-19 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Montag, 19. Mai 2003 02:11, Doug Holland wrote:
> On Sunday 18 May 2003 04:26 pm, Paul Cupis wrote:
> > On Sunday 18 May 2003 22:14, Doug Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I just apt-get updated my system and found some new KDE packages with
> > > version 3.1.2.  As is normally the case with large software systems
> > > such as KDE, not all the pieces are there yet, but so far I've
> > > noticed that app startup times are noticably faster (WOOHOO!!!)
> > >
> > > Now I'm curious.  What's the story with 3.1.2?  What new and cool
> > > features are in it?  What potential problems should I look out for?
> > > What else should I know?
> >
> >   http://kde.org/announcements/announce-3.1.2.php
> >
> > Paul Cupis
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Cool.  Looks like a bug-fix & translation release.  I'm also guessing Chris
> Cheney used prelinking when building the packages this time because of the
> app startup time improvement.

No, he didn't. It doesn't have anything to do with prelinking or other things. 

Ralf

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Re: kde 3.1.1a upgrade

2003-05-19 Thread Chris Cheney
On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 08:23:31AM +1200, Greg Cockburn wrote:
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> Hey just following this thread and have found that I do have update-menus,
> but seem to be missing kde-update-menu and kdm-update-menu called from 
> update-menus
> 
> On further investigation it appears both scripts are not set executable.
> 
> running latest unstable.
> 
> shall I file a bug report for this?
> 
> Greg

They're set executable here... No idea why your system would have them
not set that way.

-rwxr-xr-x1 root root 8217 2002-06-11 16:03 kde-update-menu.sh
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  902 2003-03-08 01:07 kdm-update-menu.sh




Re: KDE 3.1.2???

2003-05-19 Thread Ben Burton

> I will upload the rest of KDE 3.1.2 in the next few days

My parts of KDE may take one or two weeks to upload.  There's some
non-trivial changes I want to make to the packaging but I'm submitting
my PhD thesis on May 30 and so it's entirely probable that things could
get a little hectic.

Ben.




Re: KDE 3.1.2???

2003-05-19 Thread Thomas Ritter
> No, he didn't. It doesn't have anything to do with prelinking or other
> things.

He surely didn't, as prelinking was gcc-2 stuff... gcc-3.2 does better by 
default ;)

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problem with kde libs-data4 3a3

2003-05-19 Thread Ognian Kirilov
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Hello to all,
when i tryed to updatre my system this morning got following message:

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
5 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/5064kB of archives.
After unpacking 49,2kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
(Reading database ... 111940 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace kdelibs-data 4:3.1.1-1 (using 
.../kdelibs-data_4%3a3.1.2-1_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement kdelibs-data ...
dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.1.2-1_all.deb (--unpack):
 unable to stat 
`./usr/share/apps/ksgmltools2/docbook/xsl/params/alignment.xml' (which I was 
about to install): Value too large for defined data type
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.1.2-1_all.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)



Did anyone met the same problem?
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Re: kde-common/admin

2003-05-19 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Samstag, 17. Mai 2003 14:19, Daniel Stone wrote:
> CVS commit by dstone:
>
> CCMAIL: debian-kde@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Committing new debianrules from Karolina; this one adds 'echoshelldirs',
> for use in Bourne-compliant shells, as well as 'echomacros', which echoes
> out common Makefile macros, to cut down on the duplication of these macros
> through debian/rules files.
>
> Committed with one minor change - /usr/share/qt -> /usr/share/qt3.
>
>
>   M +251 -119  debianrules   1.110

Daniel, this broke everything. Please revert that stuff and take the version 
from the branch.

Ralf

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Re: kde-common/admin

2003-05-19 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 09:41:26AM +0200, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> On Samstag, 17. Mai 2003 14:19, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > CVS commit by dstone:
> >
> > CCMAIL: debian-kde@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Committing new debianrules from Karolina; this one adds 'echoshelldirs',
> > for use in Bourne-compliant shells, as well as 'echomacros', which echoes
> > out common Makefile macros, to cut down on the duplication of these macros
> > through debian/rules files.
> >
> > Committed with one minor change - /usr/share/qt -> /usr/share/qt3.
> >
> >
> >   M +251 -119  debianrules   1.110
> 
> Daniel, this broke everything. Please revert that stuff and take the version 
> from the branch.

How exactly does it break? It worked just fine for me ... :\

Are you sure you don't need to just change /usr/share/qt3 to
/usr/share/qt, for woody?

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Re: kde-common/admin

2003-05-19 Thread Ben Burton

> How exactly does it break? It worked just fine for me ... :\

I think the problem is that it's a shell script, and that from many
(most?) kfoo/debian/rules files it is invoked as "perl -w admin/debianrules".

b. :)




Re: kde-common/admin

2003-05-19 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Montag, 19. Mai 2003 12:00, Ben Burton wrote:
> > How exactly does it break? It worked just fine for me ... :\
>
> I think the problem is that it's a shell script, and that from many
> (most?) kfoo/debian/rules files it is invoked as "perl -w
> admin/debianrules".

I talked with Danny on IRC and we agreed on that I'll write a HOW-TO for 
compiling your apps from source, maybe adding a buildscript. 

Compiling from source was the reason danny tried to use this but that 
debianrules file would have made things much more complicated and breaks more 
than it helps :) So, we should collect some input for a README.Debian for 
kdelibs4-dev.

Any preferences on scenarios to cover ? with --prefix=/usr and/or /usr/local ? 
etc. ?

Ralf
>
> b. :)

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Re: kde-common/admin

2003-05-19 Thread Dominique Devriese
Ralf Nolden writes:

  Ralf> On Montag, 19. Mai 2003 12:00, Ben Burton wrote:
  >> > How exactly does it break? It worked just fine for me ... :\
  >>
  >> I think the problem is that it's a shell script, and that from
  >> many (most?) kfoo/debian/rules files it is invoked as "perl -w
  >> admin/debianrules".

  Ralf> I talked with Danny on IRC and we agreed on that I'll write a
  Ralf> HOW-TO for compiling your apps from source, maybe adding a
  Ralf> buildscript.

  Ralf> Compiling from source was the reason danny tried to use this
  Ralf> but that debianrules file would have made things much more
  Ralf> complicated and breaks more than it helps :) So, we should
  Ralf> collect some input for a README.Debian for kdelibs4-dev.

I think the build script is a good idea.  Perhaps all it should
contain is something like 

#! /bin/bash
export kde_htmldir="share/doc/kde/HTML"
if ./configure --prefix=/usr/local && make && sudo make install;
then echo "Installation succeeded.  Add /usr/local/bin to your PATH, 
and /usr/local to your KDEDIRS..."
else echo "Installation failed."
fi

  Ralf> Any preferences on scenarios to cover ? with --prefix=/usr
  Ralf> and/or /usr/local ? etc. ?

If I understand the FHS correctly, that should be
"--prefix=/usr/local".. 

cheers
domi

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Better KDEDIRS default ( was Re: Debian KDE 3 packages using a different kde_htmldir )

2003-05-19 Thread Dominique Devriese
Dominique Devriese writes:

  domi> Daniel Stone writes:
  Daniel> On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 08:09:11PM +0100, David Pye wrote:
  >>> While perhaps related to debian, and packaging, I'd like to add
  >>> that third party KDE-based apps also seem unable to locate other
  >>> files, such as .ui files, which locate themselves in
  >>> /usr/local/kde/share/apps/.

  Daniel> *sigh*, this isn't anything to do with the packages. export
  Daniel> KDEDIRS=/usr:/usr/local. KDE has no clue that you've
  Daniel> installed JuK to /usr/local, so you're going to have to tell
  Daniel> it, if you decide to split your KDE installation over two
  Daniel> prefixes.

  domi> Why can't the packages just set KDEDIRS ( or the corresponding
  domi> option ) to "/usr/:/usr/local:/usr/local/kde", so that users
  domi> won't have to deal with problems like the above ?

This question seems to have gotten lost in the discussion about the
kde_htmldir thing..  What are your opinions on this, why not apply the
following patch ?

Index: kstandarddirs.cpp
===
RCS file: /home/kde/kdelibs/kdecore/kstandarddirs.cpp,v
retrieving revision 1.158
diff -u -b -r1.158 kstandarddirs.cpp
--- kstandarddirs.cpp   19 May 2003 11:04:25 -  1.158
+++ kstandarddirs.cpp   19 May 2003 13:35:24 -
@@ -1018,6 +1018,9 @@
 }
 kdedirList.append(KDEDIR);
 
+kdedirList.append( "/usr/local" );
+kdedirList.append( "/usr/local/kde" );
+
 #ifdef __KDE_EXECPREFIX
 QString execPrefix(__KDE_EXECPREFIX);
 if (execPrefix!="NONE")

This makes it so that users won't have to mess with their KDEDIRS
variable, which is something that they don't figure out for themselves
most of the time..

thanks
domi


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Problem using cryptplug with kmail

2003-05-19 Thread Timothy Baldwin

If I add /usr/lib/cryptplug/gpgme-openpgp.so to the list of Crypto plugins 
then click on OK, kmail forgets about it (upon opening the dialog again, it 
isn't there.).

gpg-agent and pinentry-gtk work fine from the command line, or with kmail's 
bultin gpg support.

I'm using sid on x86, with extra packages from:
http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/kde-3.1.1-1/
http://people.debian.org/~ccheney/vorbis/ 
http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian
http://ftp.openoffice.tuxfamily.org/openoffice
http://bulmalug.net/~daneel/debian/

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Re: Problem using cryptplug with kmail

2003-05-19 Thread Timothy Baldwin
On Monday 19 May 2003 3:15 pm, Timothy Baldwin wrote:
> If I add /usr/lib/cryptplug/gpgme-openpgp.so to the list of Crypto plugins
> then click on OK, kmail forgets about it (upon opening the dialog again, it
> isn't there.).

Just discovered it works if a give it a name.

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Re: Problem using cryptplug with kmail

2003-05-19 Thread Timothy Baldwin


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Re: KDE 3.1.2???

2003-05-19 Thread Doug Holland
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On Monday 19 May 2003 12:47 am, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> On Montag, 19. Mai 2003 02:11, Doug Holland wrote:
> > On Sunday 18 May 2003 04:26 pm, Paul Cupis wrote:
> > > On Sunday 18 May 2003 22:14, Doug Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I just apt-get updated my system and found some new KDE packages with
> > > > version 3.1.2.  As is normally the case with large software systems
> > > > such as KDE, not all the pieces are there yet, but so far I've
> > > > noticed that app startup times are noticably faster (WOOHOO!!!)
> > > >
> > > > Now I'm curious.  What's the story with 3.1.2?  What new and cool
> > > > features are in it?  What potential problems should I look out for?
> > > > What else should I know?
> > >
> > >   http://kde.org/announcements/announce-3.1.2.php
> > >
> > > Paul Cupis
> > > --
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Cool.  Looks like a bug-fix & translation release.  I'm also guessing
> > Chris Cheney used prelinking when building the packages this time because
> > of the app startup time improvement.
>
> No, he didn't. It doesn't have anything to do with prelinking or other
> things.
>
> Ralf

So the speed improvements are simply from using gcc 3.2 or 3.3?

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Okay, is this a temp source glitch?

2003-05-19 Thread Michael Peddemors
Old sources for kde at source.. say 404 for Packages.
deb http://download.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian stable main

Kde site now says the latest srouces are at 
http://download.us.kde.org/stable/3.1.2/Debian but that gives problems too. 
(404)

deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.1/Debian stable main 
Well, that one still seems happy.

What do we do to keep up on sources for KDE now? :)

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Re: KDE 3.1.2???

2003-05-19 Thread Chris Cheney
On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 05:28:39PM +1000, Ben Burton wrote:
> 
> > I will upload the rest of KDE 3.1.2 in the next few days
> 
> My parts of KDE may take one or two weeks to upload.  There's some
> non-trivial changes I want to make to the packaging but I'm submitting
> my PhD thesis on May 30 and so it's entirely probable that things could
> get a little hectic.
> 
> Ben.

Hopefully that will give me time to test out my ideas on cdbs. I am
hopeful it will be able to solve most of the packaging problems relating
to debian KDE and 3rd party apps.

Chris