Re: calculation of mail traffic

2003-03-20 Thread Tomàs Núñez Lirola
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El Jueves, 20 de Marzo de 2003 02:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > Well.. I can also grep "From:" to see wich addresses are sending more
> > mails  than usual, don't I?
>
> You're joking, right? From: is easily faked, and any bulk spammer fakes it.

Yes, "From:" is easily faked, but if I see an IP that uses many differents 
"From:"s I can block it, and if I see a "From:" that should not be allowed, I 
can block it, too...


>
> Unless you block your clients from sending on port 25, you can't tell what
> mail they're sending.

I think I've not said outgoing mail server and incoming mail server are two 
different computers...

> If you do block port 25, I wouldn't expect your commercial clients to be
> happy.

I would never block port 25... why?

>
> If you force (by firewall rules or otherwise) them to use mail.bigisp.com
> as their outgoing relay, they might feel you're invading their privacy.
> Would you want someone checking your phone calls (for other than billing
> purposes)?

I'm sorry but I think we're not talking about the same...
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Re: VPN

2003-03-20 Thread aCaB
Ciao Samuele,
I've tried both ssh and ipsec.
SSH+PPPD is quite easy to set up and works just fine but has sometimes 
some minor problems with the connection link not being taken down.
IPSec+FreeS/wan is (maybe) a cleaner solution but has some strong 
requirements you should take into considration.
Imho pptpd should be avoided at all: i run it only to communicate with 
an adsl modem (so i don't have any real life experience) and i'm not 
really happy with it. Moreover it seems to be less reliable then the above.



Samuele wrote:
Hi there.
I have to set up a VPN service on some Debian (woody) servers, and since I
have no experienced with this I am searching for advices and hints about
the best implementation among:
. SSH + PPPD (as explained in the VPN HOWTO)
. IPSec + FreeSwan (which seems to be more secure)
. OpenVPN
. tinc
. pptpd
...
Suggestions and advices are welcome.

Bye.

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Re: Multi-Link Machine

2003-03-20 Thread Rcca
There is a solution for your problem, 
1.
Forget ifconfig, and route
2.
Get knowlege about ip and tc (iproute package)
3. 
Compile QoS into kernel.
4. Check Linux-advanced iprouting-howto
http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Adv-Routing-HOWTO.html

My project is also like this but I not finished yet.


R.


Idézve: Dátum: 2003/3/9 4:38:59. Feladó: Brad Lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
>I have a linux machine with 2.4.19 on it, and 2 Internet links.
>
>eth0 is Telstra Bigpond Cable (Semi static ip, its dhcp assigned), which I
>want to route certain ips ranges over this link. 144.135.23.0/24 for eg.
>
>eth1 is the internal interface on 192.168.0.0/24
>
>eth2 is an adsl connection with a static ip which I want to be the default
>route for any traffic left over.
>
>I can get this to sort of work, but traceroute'ing to anything I set
>static routes [1] with, doesn't work because I assume that it trys to come
>back via the default route. Is that right?
>
>Also I need to break the adsl connection into 2 parts, its a 512kbit link,
>so I would like to take 384kbit and 128kbit of the link, and assign
>128kbit to 192.168.0.192/27 which would be done on eth1, but I don't want
>to limit traffic coming from eth0. (eth0 is 9mbit, so its a bit of a waste
>to shape it down to 128kbit now isnt it :)
>
>Is any of this possible or am I just dreaming?
>
>[1] route add -net ip.add.re.ss netmask 255.255.255.255 gw 
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>
>[NOTE: I've been to lartc.org and emailed them also, hoping to find some
>help, so no point telling me about them again, as I already have been and
>read the howto :-)]
>
>Regards,
>
>Brad Lay
>([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
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QoS and tc

2003-03-20 Thread Szőts Róbert
Does anyone know any site where I can get knowledges about the technology of setting 
up QoS in linux kernel.
I would like to understand the philosophy of this technology.
What are classes, what are qdiscs, how they are connecting to eachother.

Maybe it is my supidity, but the manual pages and the linux howto describes somthing, 
but I can't understand these.

Thanks.



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Re: VPN

2003-03-20 Thread Rcca
My opinion: If you want to use reliable ipsec The only choice is FreeSwan/IPSec.
We could solve any problems with it (not so easy but works).
R.


Idézve: Dátum: 2003/3/19 11:51:36. Feladó: Samuele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
>   Hi there.
>I have to set up a VPN service on some Debian (woody) servers, and since I
>have no experienced with this I am searching for advices and hints about
>the best implementation among:
>
>   . SSH + PPPD (as explained in the VPN HOWTO)
>   . IPSec + FreeSwan (which seems to be more secure)
>   . OpenVPN
>   . tinc
>   . pptpd
>   ...
>
>Suggestions and advices are welcome.
>
>Bye.
>
>--
>Samuele Catusian
>
>
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Re: QoS and tc

2003-03-20 Thread Miernik
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, [windows-1250] Szőts Róbert wrote:

> Does anyone know any site where I can get knowledges about the
> technology of setting up QoS in linux kernel.

http://www.docum.org/

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Re: anti virus software for mail server

2003-03-20 Thread Hilko Bengen
"J.J. van Gorkum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> amavisd-new (amavisd-ng has some mime decoding problems... especially
> pgp/gpg encrypted mail) 

As the maintainer of AMaViS-ng I am looking forward to your bug
report about the issues you have encountered.

Regards,
-Hilko


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Re: Combining 2 Ethernet NICS -> 1 IP address SOLUTION THANKS

2003-03-20 Thread Alan Graham
On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 18:18, J.J. van Gorkum wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 03:46, alan graham wrote:
> > I have been trying unsuccessfully to find doco on combining 2 Ethernet
> > NICS, such that only one IP address is presented to clients.
> > 
> apt-get install ifenslave
> 
> less /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt
> 
> That is all you need.
> -- 
> JJ van Gorkum Knowledge Zone
> If UNIX isn't the solution, you've got the wrong problem.

Cheers, just what I was searching for.

Just need to check that the old SMC interface supports MII link status
reporting... 


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Re: calculation of mail traffic

2003-03-20 Thread Tomàs Núñez Lirola
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El Jueves, 20 de Marzo de 2003 02:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> > Well.. I can also grep "From:" to see wich addresses are sending more
> > mails  than usual, don't I?
>
> You're joking, right? From: is easily faked, and any bulk spammer fakes it.

Yes, "From:" is easily faked, but if I see an IP that uses many differents 
"From:"s I can block it, and if I see a "From:" that should not be allowed, I 
can block it, too...


>
> Unless you block your clients from sending on port 25, you can't tell what
> mail they're sending.

I think I've not said outgoing mail server and incoming mail server are two 
different computers...

> If you do block port 25, I wouldn't expect your commercial clients to be
> happy.

I would never block port 25... why?

>
> If you force (by firewall rules or otherwise) them to use mail.bigisp.com
> as their outgoing relay, they might feel you're invading their privacy.
> Would you want someone checking your phone calls (for other than billing
> purposes)?

I'm sorry but I think we're not talking about the same...
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Re: VPN

2003-03-20 Thread aCaB
Ciao Samuele,
I've tried both ssh and ipsec.
SSH+PPPD is quite easy to set up and works just fine but has sometimes 
some minor problems with the connection link not being taken down.
IPSec+FreeS/wan is (maybe) a cleaner solution but has some strong 
requirements you should take into considration.
Imho pptpd should be avoided at all: i run it only to communicate with 
an adsl modem (so i don't have any real life experience) and i'm not 
really happy with it. Moreover it seems to be less reliable then the above.


Samuele wrote:
Hi there.
I have to set up a VPN service on some Debian (woody) servers, and since I
have no experienced with this I am searching for advices and hints about
the best implementation among:
. SSH + PPPD (as explained in the VPN HOWTO)
. IPSec + FreeSwan (which seems to be more secure)
. OpenVPN
. tinc
. pptpd
...
Suggestions and advices are welcome.
Bye.
--
Samuele Catusian





Re: Multi-Link Machine

2003-03-20 Thread Rcca
There is a solution for your problem, 
1.
Forget ifconfig, and route
2.
Get knowlege about ip and tc (iproute package)
3. 
Compile QoS into kernel.
4. Check Linux-advanced iprouting-howto
http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Adv-Routing-HOWTO.html

My project is also like this but I not finished yet.


R.


Idézve: Dátum: 2003/3/9 4:38:59. Feladó: Brad Lay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
>I have a linux machine with 2.4.19 on it, and 2 Internet links.
>
>eth0 is Telstra Bigpond Cable (Semi static ip, its dhcp assigned), which I
>want to route certain ips ranges over this link. 144.135.23.0/24 for eg.
>
>eth1 is the internal interface on 192.168.0.0/24
>
>eth2 is an adsl connection with a static ip which I want to be the default
>route for any traffic left over.
>
>I can get this to sort of work, but traceroute'ing to anything I set
>static routes [1] with, doesn't work because I assume that it trys to come
>back via the default route. Is that right?
>
>Also I need to break the adsl connection into 2 parts, its a 512kbit link,
>so I would like to take 384kbit and 128kbit of the link, and assign
>128kbit to 192.168.0.192/27 which would be done on eth1, but I don't want
>to limit traffic coming from eth0. (eth0 is 9mbit, so its a bit of a waste
>to shape it down to 128kbit now isnt it :)
>
>Is any of this possible or am I just dreaming?
>
>[1] route add -net ip.add.re.ss netmask 255.255.255.255 gw 
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>
>[NOTE: I've been to lartc.org and emailed them also, hoping to find some
>help, so no point telling me about them again, as I already have been and
>read the howto :-)]
>
>Regards,
>
>Brad Lay
>([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
>
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QoS and tc

2003-03-20 Thread Szőts Róbert
Does anyone know any site where I can get knowledges about the technology of 
setting up QoS in linux kernel.
I would like to understand the philosophy of this technology.
What are classes, what are qdiscs, how they are connecting to eachother.

Maybe it is my supidity, but the manual pages and the linux howto describes 
somthing, but I can't understand these.

Thanks.





Re: VPN

2003-03-20 Thread Rcca
My opinion: If you want to use reliable ipsec The only choice is FreeSwan/IPSec.
We could solve any problems with it (not so easy but works).
R.


Idézve: Dátum: 2003/3/19 11:51:36. Feladó: Samuele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
>   Hi there.
>I have to set up a VPN service on some Debian (woody) servers, and since I
>have no experienced with this I am searching for advices and hints about
>the best implementation among:
>
>   . SSH + PPPD (as explained in the VPN HOWTO)
>   . IPSec + FreeSwan (which seems to be more secure)
>   . OpenVPN
>   . tinc
>   . pptpd
>   ...
>
>Suggestions and advices are welcome.
>
>Bye.
>
>--
>Samuele Catusian
>
>
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Re: QoS and tc

2003-03-20 Thread Miernik
On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, [windows-1250] Szőts Róbert wrote:

> Does anyone know any site where I can get knowledges about the
> technology of setting up QoS in linux kernel.

http://www.docum.org/

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Re: anti virus software for mail server

2003-03-20 Thread Hilko Bengen
"J.J. van Gorkum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> amavisd-new (amavisd-ng has some mime decoding problems... especially
> pgp/gpg encrypted mail) 

As the maintainer of AMaViS-ng I am looking forward to your bug
report about the issues you have encountered.

Regards,
-Hilko




Re: Combining 2 Ethernet NICS -> 1 IP address SOLUTION THANKS

2003-03-20 Thread Alan Graham
On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 18:18, J.J. van Gorkum wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-03-19 at 03:46, alan graham wrote:
> > I have been trying unsuccessfully to find doco on combining 2 Ethernet
> > NICS, such that only one IP address is presented to clients.
> > 
> apt-get install ifenslave
> 
> less /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.20/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt
> 
> That is all you need.
> -- 
> JJ van Gorkum Knowledge Zone
> If UNIX isn't the solution, you've got the wrong problem.

Cheers, just what I was searching for.

Just need to check that the old SMC interface supports MII link status
reporting...