Re: Linuxtag 2004: Different Stuff
Michael Banck wrote: > On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 06:27:17PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > We need something to explain Debian's failure to support AMD64 > > "natively". Some FAQ with good answers written by amd64-port experts, to > > be learned by the booth personal, so we can tell the visitors plausible > > answers. > > Are you trolling? I guess, it's rather that we should be prepared for similar questions, and should have thought about answers such as mixed 32/64-bit approach required to get software from ISV run on it as well, which in turn requires a redesign / drastical changes in our internal packaging structure, which cannot be done this short before a release. > Sarge is not even out, so how could we "support" amd64? I don't think > anybody remotely sane would expect us to officially release an amd64 > port before sarge. > > And as we will be burning CDs for the other ports anyway, why not for > amd64 as well? True-64bit seems to be in a good enough shape that it > might work out with d-i until then. And pretty much the only thing > missing is a place on ftp.debian.org, but there is an repository on > alioth anyway. So I don't see where we 'fail to support AMD64 natively'. The problem with Tru64 is that it's useless when it comes to interoperability with other distributions. For that, i386 is as good, so no other "port" is required. Regards, Joey -- Ten years and still binary compatible. -- XFree86
Re: Linuxtag 2004: Different Stuff
Michael Banck wrote: > Something I was thinking about: Perhaps somebody could make a nice d-i > installer poster, summing up the features, advancements, along with a > couple of screenshots? Or if that does not generate enough content, we > could have a 'Sarge sneak preview' poster with other stuff as well. I would appreciate this. Regards, Joey -- Ten years and still binary compatible. -- XFree86
Re: Linuxtag 2004: Different Stuff
Eduard Bloch wrote: > And why? > What are the problems? > Do you need hardware for porting? > Will it be possible to get a stable Debian for amd64 soon, maybe released > after Sarge? > Why does it work for Gentoo/SuSE/...? > Etc.pp. FWIW: I'm willing to collect such questions and answers on a web page that can be printed out in time for the booth. Regards, Joey -- Ten years and still binary compatible. -- XFree86
Re: Linuxtag 2004: Different Stuff
Am Die, den 18.05.2004 schrieb Michael Banck um 1:28: > On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 01:03:51AM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > > Would it be an acceptable sollution, if we would hand out burned CDs > > on request? > > Not entirely related to this, but still: Somebody said we'd have a full > mirror available. So perhaps we could have put up signs saying 'CDs for > the following architectures available on demand'. If somebody cares > about powerpc or whatever, we could burn them a CD which he could fetch > later on. I've read that in a report from a UK trade show once and it > sounded pretty cool. This should get automated as much as possible I > guess. > I just succeeded in building a dual-bootable i386/powerpc image. It's just a combination of the i386 and powerpc netinst beta4 images and some manual hacking in the Release file. You can find the image and the script I used to burn the image on http://www.soziologie.ch/~steinlin/d-i/netinst-ppc-i386/ This probably needs some more testing, to be sure it is really bootable on the majority of i386 and powerpc hardware. If you are still interested in dual-boot images for LinuxTag I will try to automate and improve this process. Gaudenz
dual-bootable i386/powerpc image
On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 11:36:37AM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > Am Die, den 18.05.2004 schrieb Michael Banck um 1:28: > > On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 01:03:51AM +0200, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > > > Would it be an acceptable sollution, if we would hand out burned CDs > > > on request? > > > > Not entirely related to this, but still: Somebody said we'd have a full > > mirror available. So perhaps we could have put up signs saying 'CDs for > > the following architectures available on demand'. If somebody cares > > about powerpc or whatever, we could burn them a CD which he could fetch > > later on. I've read that in a report from a UK trade show once and it > > sounded pretty cool. This should get automated as much as possible I > > guess. > > > I just succeeded in building a dual-bootable i386/powerpc image. It's > just a combination of the i386 and powerpc netinst beta4 images and some > manual hacking in the Release file. You can find the image and the > script I used to burn the image on > > http://www.soziologie.ch/~steinlin/d-i/netinst-ppc-i386/ > > This probably needs some more testing, to be sure it is really bootable > on the majority of i386 and powerpc hardware. > > If you are still interested in dual-boot images for LinuxTag I will try > to automate and improve this process. ( Oo Chips, this could become a ME TOO thread ;- ) I'm interest in a CD that boots both of the popular architectures. > > Gaudenz Cheers Geert Stappers P.S. What is a proper way to keep both mailinglist, -eu-events & -boot, informed? Cross-posting?
Linuxtag 2004 Mitfahrgelegenheit
Hi, Does someone drives from Berlin with car to the Linuxtag 2004? I don't have the money to pay for Traintickets. Please tell me if you cant take me with you. Best regards, Florian
Re: Linuxtag 2004 Mitfahrgelegenheit
Florian Fischer wrote: > Hi, > > Does someone drives from Berlin with car to the Linuxtag 2004? > I don't have the money to pay for Traintickets. > Please tell me if you cant take me with you. You may want to add this to http://linuxwiki.de/LinuxTag2004/FahrGemeinschaften Regards, Joey -- Ten years and still binary compatible. -- XFree86
