Bug#561443: ITP: linuxsampler -- realtime audio sampler

2009-12-17 Thread Alessio Treglia
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Alessio Treglia 

* Package name: linuxsampler
  Version : 1.0.0
  Upstream Author : Christian Schoenebeck 
* URL : http://www.linuxsampler.org/
* License : GPL-2
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description : realtime audio sampler

 LinuxSampler is a work in progress. It's goal is to produce a free
 software audio sampler with professional grade features.
 .
 It offers disk streaming capability and supports the Gigasampler format
 which is currently considered to be the best sampler format in regards of
 possibilities and sound quality.



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Bug#561448: libpam-alreadyloggedin: Fake sense of security?

2009-12-17 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
Package: libpam-alreadyloggedin
Version: 0.3-1
Severity: important

Hello,

I am seriously concerned by the fake sense of security that such tool
provides (I must say that some other pam modules are scarry).

For instance, using vlock and libpam-alreadyloggedin on the same machine
provides the same level of security as a blank password, if not less.

As of 2009, where most people use either XWindow/ssh/screen, I see little
benefit using this tool (YMMV).

Please, add appropriate warning to this package description and README.

Thank you for your effort.

Franklin

BTW, It is recommended to submit an ITP bug before uploading a new
package in the archive, so other DDs can provide feed-back.



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Re: ITA: dict-gcide

2009-12-17 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Hi Pablo,

On Wednesday 16 Dec 2009 13:49:18 Pablo Duboue wrote:
> 
> RS> Probably we just host it on alioth and let interested parties
>  contribute to RS> and use it.
> 
> RS> Any suggestions on a different name ? Or should we just use the old one
>  ?
> 
> What about GCIDE2? And what about merging in wiktionary?
> 

Merging wiktionary would definitely be great. But that'd be a tough task.

In fact, I am not sure if we should even maintain a fork. Maintaining it (as a 
hosted project) as upstream is going to be a herculean task. It will require a 
lot of effort, time and commitment to it. Also, I don't think I have the 
necessary skill set to maintain a project of this magnitude as upstream. I am 
a user for it but upstream maintenance is going to be a different thing.

For the current database that it is, IMO NMUing it, as has been happening 
might be the best bet. This way we don't lose this software (and all the data 
it brings with it).

But if there are many people with interest in it to maintain, I think we could 
set up a team and work together.


Regards,
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Re: ITA: dict-gcide

2009-12-17 Thread Kartik Mistry
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Ritesh Raj Sarraf  wrote:
> But if there are many people with interest in it to maintain, I think we could
> set up a team and work together.

Lets do it. I'm in.
(however, with having huge number of packages holding in my arm, I'll
be occasional uploader (until you become DD ;)) or bug-fixer. Fine?)

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Re: What is the best place for package meta-data ?

2009-12-17 Thread Olivier Berger
Le mercredi 16 décembre 2009 à 10:14 +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :

> Dear Guillem and Olivier,
> 
> yes, I have been pointed DOAP (and PackageMap) on the debian-qa and
> debian-mentors mailing lists. I have spent a couple of hours this week reading
> things about “Semantic web” and related things. My conclusion is that the
> languages for linking concepts that are formalised in RDF files (XML, Notation
> 3, Turtle, N-triples, …), are too complex compared to simple YAML files.
> However, if we consider the DOAP as a simple list of keywords on which to
> standardise, then I can do my best to stick to them as far as possible.

RDF+XML may be too complex and verbose and probably has many other
aspects that can be criticized, but it is nevertheless a standard that's
the only one so far that helps contruct the Semantic Web (unless using
other forms of RDF, like RDFa)... so do whatever you want, but if you
limit yourself to custom ad-hoc local formats, and don't use standards,
you'll limit the potential reuse of what you did for so-far unexpected
applications.

It's up to you to eventually think beyond current needs, and then open
the door for others to build on top of what you did, on the Semantic
Web ;)

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Bug#561349: Processed: Re: Bug#561349: Login Credentials not honoured

2009-12-17 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 561349 pam
tags 561349 + unreproducible
thanks

On Donnerstag, 17. Dezember 2009, S.D.A. wrote:
> Care to elaborate?

Please attach the contents of /etc/pam* to this bug report.


thanks,
Holger



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Processed: Re: Bug#561349: Processed: Re: Bug#561349: Login Credentials not honoured

2009-12-17 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:

> reassign 561349 pam
Bug #561349 [general] otherr: login credentials aren't honoured
Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'pam'.
> tags 561349 + unreproducible
Bug #561349 [pam] otherr: login credentials aren't honoured
Added tag(s) unreproducible.
> thanks
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Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-17 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Wednesday 16 December 2009 17:40:55 Neil Williams wrote:
> No. The package should simply exit cleanly with a successful return
> value if perl does not exist, letting everything else proceed as before.
> The postinst itself needs to check - that way, Emdebian doesn't have to
> patch every package using dh_config_model.

Ok. Here's the new postinst snippet injected by dh_config_model_upgrade:

# In case of error (error in configuration file or model bug), the
# configuration file is left as is.

# testing perl is required to avoid problem in embedded environments
if [[ -e /usr/bin/perl ]] 
then
echo "config-edit is upgrading %PACKAGE% configuration with model 
%MODEL%."
config-edit -model %MODEL% -ui none -save %OPTION% || \
echo "WARNING: upgrade with config-edit failed: Run 'config-edit -model 
%MODEL% -force %OPTION%' and save the configuration."
fi

Does this fit the bill ?

> An alternative is to make dh_config_model* into a no-op if a build
> environment variable is set. DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="noconfigmodel" or
> something. With this set, it has to be entirely equivalent to
> dh_config_model not appearing in debian/rules at all. 

Ok. Unless somebeody complains, I will add this at the beginning of 
dh_config_model_upgrade:

if ($ENV{DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS} =~ /noconfigmodel/) {
warn "dh_config_model_upgrade: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS specifies 
'noconfigmodel', 
exiting ...\n";
   exit;
}
 
> It would be so much better if this whole implementation was in C - as
> long as nothing in the config model tried to execute the cross-built
> executable on the build system. Then the ability to disable it via a
> build option would be truly orthogonal to the actual issue of whether
> perl exists.

Well, a C implementation of the core part of Config::Model is possible, but it 
would take a while to create. I don't have the bandwidth for this.

All the best


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Re: SpamAssassin is run on Alioth, but its results are ignored

2009-12-17 Thread Hector Oron
Hello,

2009/12/17 Ben Hutchings :
> On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 01:03 +0100, Carl Fürstenberg wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 00:12, Stephen Gran  wrote:
>> 3. I feel your attitude isn't well suited for an Debian developer. Try
>> be more helpful instead of sounding like a dick.
>
> If this was the first bug report from jidanni, sure, but jidanni is a
> regular bug reporter and really ought to have learned better by now.

I had the ocasion to meet jidanni in one of his talks on bug reporting
[1]. The paper of a bug reporter is not patching or anything else but
point the problem. I think most of his reports are well written and
provide enough hits to reproduce the issues, but why people have this
*odd* feeling on him? I personally do not know, I can understand it,
but he is not doing anything bad, just helping to improve the
system/infrastructure, etc...

Take in mind, that some people work offline or with modem lines, which
retrieving lots of MB for source to patch it is quite a bit of time.

I also feel hurt, when people that I personally know gets treated this
way. Please, be kind! :-)

[1] http://jidanni.org/comp/bug_reporter.html

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Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-17 Thread James Vega
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Dominique Dumont
 wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 December 2009 17:40:55 Neil Williams wrote:
>> No. The package should simply exit cleanly with a successful return
>> value if perl does not exist, letting everything else proceed as before.
>> The postinst itself needs to check - that way, Emdebian doesn't have to
>> patch every package using dh_config_model.
>
> Ok. Here's the new postinst snippet injected by dh_config_model_upgrade:
>
> # In case of error (error in configuration file or model bug), the
> # configuration file is left as is.
>
> # testing perl is required to avoid problem in embedded environments
> if [[ -e /usr/bin/perl ]]

'[[' for testing is a bashism.  This should be

  if [ -e /usr/bin/perl ]

or more accurately

  if [ -x /usr/bin/perl ]

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Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-17 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Thursday 17 December 2009 14:24:48 Dominique Dumont wrote:
> Unless somebeody complains, I will add this at the beginning of 
> dh_config_model_upgrade:
> 
> if ($ENV{DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS} =~ /noconfigmodel/) {
> warn "dh_config_model_upgrade: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS specifies
>  'noconfigmodel',  exiting ...\n";
>exit;
> }
> 

After reading (again) debhelper(7), I think it's better to exit silently if 
DH_NO_ACT is set.

All the best 

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Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-17 Thread Carl Fürstenberg
Will there be premade modules for the usual suspects? for example
Apache, INI, perl-hash, JSON, basic shell source, debcontrol/rfc-2822,
xml etc... Or is it meant that each package should reinvent the
wheel/copy-paste?
Also I think there should be a "simple mode", there the model is only
defined for the general file format (as above), which can be activated
with only a commandline argument to dh_config_config_model, without
the need to write perl code/understand what a model is (not all devs
can this kind of thingis).

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Bug#561485: RFP: libmoosex-simpleconfig-perl - A Moose role for setting attributes from a simple configfile

2009-12-17 Thread Guillaume Chambriat
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: libmoosex-simpleconfig-perl
  Version : 0.04
  Upstream Author : Brandon L. Black, 
* URL or Web page : http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-SimpleConfig/
* License : Perl (Artistic and GPL) 
  Description : MooseX::SimpleConfig - A Moose role for setting attributes 
from a simple configfile

Depends on, and enhances, MooseX::ConfigFromFile, that already has
a ITP bug open[1].

  [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=543953

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Bug#561487: ITP: yorick-optimpack -- optimization of large scale problems for the Yorick language

2009-12-17 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Thibaut Paumard 

* Package name: yorick-optimpack
  Version : 1.3
  Upstream Author : Éric Thiébaut 
* URL : 
http://www-obs.univ-lyon1.fr/labo/perso/eric.thiebaut/optimpack.html
* License : GPL-2+
  Programming Lang: C, Yorick
  Description : optimization of large scale problems for the Yorick language
OptimPack is a portable C library which implements algorithms for
optimization of large scale problems with bound constraints. Large
scale means some million variables (e.g. pixel values) or more.
.
The most important algorithm is VMLM-B: a variable metric method with
limited memory requirements and, possibly, bound constraints on the
parameters. The algorithm is based on limited memory BFGS updates
with Moré & Thuente inexact line search and gradient projection to
account for bounds.
.
This package contains a Yorick plug-in based on OptimPack.

I am the maintainer of 13 yorick-related packages already in main. OptimPack in 
required for another package I will ITP right away: yorick-mira. MiRA is used 
on a regular basis by several persons at my workplace.

Best regards, Thibaut.



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Bug#561490: ITP: yorick-mira -- optical intreferometry image reconstruction within Yorick

2009-12-17 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Thibaut Paumard 

* Package name: yorick-mira
  Version : 0.9.9
  Upstream Author : Éric Thiébaut 
* URL : 
http://www-obs.univ-lyon1.fr/labo/perso/eric.thiebaut/mira.html
* License : GPL-2+
  Programming Lang: Yorick
  Description : optical intreferometry image reconstruction within Yorick

 MiRA is an algorithm for image reconstruction from data provided by
 optical interferometers. It is written in the Yorick language and
 operated through the Yorick interpreter.
 .
 MiRA won the 2008' Interferometric Imaging Beauty Contest organized
 by International Astronomical Union (IAU) to compare the image
 synthesis algorithms designed for optical interferometry.  In a
 nutshell, MiRA proceeds by direct minimization of a penalized
 likelihood. This penalty is the sum of two terms: a likelihood term
 (typically a χ2) which enforces agreement of the model with the data,
 plus a regularization term to account for priors. The priors are
 required to lever the many degeneracies due to the sparseness of the
 spatial frequency sampling. MiRA implements many different
 regularizations (quadratic or edge-preserving smoothness, total
 variation, maximum entropy, etc.) and let the user defines his own
 priors. The likelihood penalty is modular and designed to account for
 available data of any kind (complex visibilities, powerspectra and/or
 closure phase). One of the strength of MiRA is that it is purely
 based on an inverse problem approach and can therefore cope with
 incomplete data set; for instance, MiRA can build an image without
 any Fourier phase information. Input data must
 be in OI-FITS format.


MiRA is used at my workplace. I am the maintainer of all 13 yorick-related 
source packages already in main.

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devref and policy should agree on where to document tarball repacking

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Langasek
Package: developers-reference
Version: 3.4.3

On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 04:45:33PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Charles Plessy  writes:

> > while checking the section 6.7.8.2 of the Developers reference
> > (“Repackaged upstream source”) in the context on another thread on this
> > list
> > (http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/d921045c2e3ae5ecfba088e9d82eb...@drazzib.com),
> > I found the following :

> >   A repackaged .orig.tar.gz

> >  1. should be documented in the resulting source package. Detailed
> >  information on how the repackaged source was obtained, and on how
> >  this can be reproduced should be provided in debian/copyright. It
> >  is also a good idea to provide a get-orig-source target in your
> >  debian/rules file that repeats the process, as described in the
> >  Policy Manual, Main building script: debian/rules.

> > I have no strong opinion on the subject, but I think that either the
> > Developers Reference should be modified to reflect current consensus and
> > practice, or in contrary the section 6.7.8.2 of the Dev. Ref. argues for
> > the incorporation of the removing information in the DEP-5
> > machine-readable format.

> I personally still believe this information belongs in debian/copyright,
> not in README.source.  README.source might be appropriate if there are
> detailed instructions required for how someone else would create a new
> upstream source tarball, but debian/copyright is the appropriate location
> to describe the provenance of the upstream tarball, which in my opinion
> should include a human-readable description of transformations applied to
> it.

I have a slight, but not overwhelming, preference for having this in
README.source rather than in debian/copyright; however, I think the more
important issue here by far is that policy and the devref currently
recommend including the same information in two different places, and this
duplication is bad and inevitably leads to *both* locations being unreliable
sources for this information.  Moving this to a bug on the devref (per my
personal preference); if consensus is that debian/copyright is the right
place for this, then we can reassign it to policy, but one way or the other
one of these documents should be changed to agree with the other.

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Re: DEP-5: removed files

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 09:56:29AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Given that the purpose of DEP-5 is to make information available to machines,
> my feeling is also that there is no need for a new field, unless there is a
> commitemnt to parse the license information about removed files in a
> programmatic way.

IMHO, *if* the conclusion is that this information belongs in
debian/copyright, it should be incorporated in the DEP as a standardized
field.

In the meantime, we might want to work through the concern raised in an
earlier thread about having the DEP explicitly permit free-form text in
debian/copyright outside of its defined stanzas.

> While duplication of information should be avoided, there are still a couple 
> of
> justifications why the license of removed files could be summarised. First,
> most get-orig-source targets in debian/rules let the removed files transit on
> the user's machine.

The "get-orig-source" target is not a user interface, it's a developer
interface.  I expect developers to know what they're about.

> Similarly, some VCS that are available through ‘debcheckout’ also contain
> a copy of the removed files in their upstream branch. For these cases, I
> think that debian/copyright is a relevant place to declare the license of
> the removed files, since they may actually be really there!

I disagree.  debian/copyright is not an interface for documenting the
license status of arbitrary VCS branches, it's an interface for documenting
the license status of Debian packages.  Since any VCS branch that includes
the debian/copyright should (assuming a rational universe) also *not*
include the removed files in question, there should be no need to document
the license of these files in debian/copyright - and any branch that does
include those files should also include the upstream license information.

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Bug#561499: ITP: python-django-dajaxice -- agnostic and easy to use ajax library for django

2009-12-17 Thread Angel Abad
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Angel Abad 


* Package name: python-django-dajaxice
  Version : 0.0.1
  Upstream Author : Benito Jorge Bastida 
* URL : http://wiki.github.com/jorgebastida/dajaxice
* License : BSD
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : agnostic and easy to use ajax library for django

Easy to use ajax library for django, all the presentation logic resides 
outside the views and doesn't require any JS Framework. Dajaxice uses the
unobtrusive standard-compliant (W3C) XMLHttpRequest 1.0 object.



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Re: Bug#561401: heimdal: FTBFS: Uses quilt in debian/rules, patches fail to apply.

2009-12-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 05:07:48PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> 
> With older versions of dpkg-dev, if quilt isn't already available,
> dpkg-source will use its own internal mechanism to apply the patch series,
> and that internal method did not maintain the .pc directory.  If the
> patches are applied that way, quilt will not think that any patches are
> applied and hence quilt pop will do nothing, but then quilt push will
> fail to apply the patches because they've already been applied.
> 
> Maybe that buildd has that older version of dpkg-dev?

Yes, some run the one outside the chroot, which is the one
from stable.  I'm not sure if there is any intetion to fix
dpkg-dev in stable.


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Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-17 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:24:48 +0100
Dominique Dumont  wrote:

> On Wednesday 16 December 2009 17:40:55 Neil Williams wrote:
> > No. The package should simply exit cleanly with a successful return
> > value if perl does not exist, letting everything else proceed as
> > before. The postinst itself needs to check - that way, Emdebian
> > doesn't have to patch every package using dh_config_model.
> 
> Ok. Here's the new postinst snippet injected by
> dh_config_model_upgrade:
> 
> # In case of error (error in configuration file or model bug), the
> # configuration file is left as is.
> 
> # testing perl is required to avoid problem in embedded environments
> if [[ -e /usr/bin/perl ]] 
> then
> echo "config-edit is upgrading %PACKAGE% configuration with model 
> %MODEL%."
> config-edit -model %MODEL% -ui none -save %OPTION% || \
>   echo "WARNING: upgrade with config-edit failed: Run
> 'config-edit -model %MODEL% -force %OPTION%' and save the
> configuration." fi
> 
> Does this fit the bill ?

With the later removal of the bashism, yes. Thanks.
 
> > An alternative is to make dh_config_model* into a no-op if a build
> > environment variable is set. DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="noconfigmodel" or
> > something. With this set, it has to be entirely equivalent to
> > dh_config_model not appearing in debian/rules at all. 
> 
> On Thursday 17 December 2009 14:24:48 Dominique Dumont wrote:
> > Unless somebeody complains, I will add this at the beginning of 
> > dh_config_model_upgrade:
> > 
> > if ($ENV{DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS} =~ /noconfigmodel/) {
> > warn "dh_config_model_upgrade: DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS specifies
> >  'noconfigmodel',  exiting ...\n";
> >exit;
> > }
> > 
> 
> After reading (again) debhelper(7), I think it's better to exit
> silently if DH_NO_ACT is set.

DH_NO_ACT still needs debian/rules to be modified or else all debhelper
routines would be disabled; we need an option that is specific to
dh_config_model without having to edit debian/rules.

I think DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS is still useful, whether or not
dh_config_model outputs the warning is neither here nor there for my
purposes.
 
> > It would be so much better if this whole implementation was in C -
> > as long as nothing in the config model tried to execute the
> > cross-built executable on the build system. Then the ability to
> > disable it via a build option would be truly orthogonal to the
> > actual issue of whether perl exists.
> 
> Well, a C implementation of the core part of Config::Model is
> possible, but it would take a while to create. I don't have the
> bandwidth for this.

The debconf maintainers aren't the cdebconf maintainers; it's not
unusual for someone else to step up as long as the interface in the
perl version is suitable for porting to C. So the real issue is that
config::model tries hard to make an interface that can be implemented
in another language.

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Re: Bug#560863: ITP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server

2009-12-17 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
> FYI, from the FAQ of lamson:
> http://lamsonproject.org/docs/faq.html
> ---
> Debian and CentOS are notorious for being dinosaurs. Both distributions of
> Linux suffer from the false rationale that older software is more stable 
> and
> secure. The reality is that the stability or security of a piece of 
> software is
> not a function of its age, and in many cases the newer versions of 
> software
> will typically fix many stability and performance problems. Despite this 
> fact,
> these two variants of Linux are notorious for back-porting patches from 
> later
> versions to older versions rather than just using the newer version.

Sounds like one wants to check with the upstream what their plan to handle
security issues is.


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Re: Bug#560863: ITP: lamson -- The Python SMTP Server

2009-12-17 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 12:20 +0100, Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
> Sebastian Otaegui  (Sa 12 Dez 2009 22:26:56 CET):
> > Package: wnpp
> > 
> > * Package name: lamson

> 
> FYI, from the FAQ of lamson:
> http://lamsonproject.org/docs/faq.html
> ---
> Debian and CentOS are notorious for being dinosaurs. Both distributions of
> Linux suffer from the false rationale that older software is more stable 
> and
> secure. The reality is that the stability or security of a piece of 
> software is
> not a function of its age, and in many cases the newer versions of 
> software
> will typically fix many stability and performance problems. 

I often find it amazing how upstream don't seems to have a clue of what
releasing a distribution is all about (i.e integration of components,
testing, documentation, long term support, easy security update during
that period, easy installation...). Organisations and end-users just
want to install an application and then use it (i.e not spending their
time upgrading it, adjusting the configuration, migrating data...).

And we can't really blame them, most of these stuffs aren't their job
anyway.

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Work-needing packages report for Dec 18, 2009

2009-12-17 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.

Total number of orphaned packages: 658 (new: 14)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 131 (new: 3)
Total number of packages requested help for: 54 (new: 0)

Please refer to http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ for more information.



The following packages have been orphaned:

   bygfoot (#560848), orphaned 5 days ago
 Description: soccer (football) manager game featuring the most
   important European leagues
 Installations reported by Popcon: 152

   esmtp (#561302), orphaned yesterday
 Description: User configurable relay-only MTA
 Reverse Depends: esmtp-run
 Installations reported by Popcon: 210

   gambit (#561254), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: Game theory analysis software and tools
 Installations reported by Popcon: 53

   gambit-doc (#561255), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: documentation for gambit
 Installations reported by Popcon: 44

   libfrontier-rpc-perl (#561129), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: Perl module to implement RPC calls using XML requests
 Reverse Depends: cipux-rpc-tools libcipux-rpc-perl xml-rpc-api2txt
 Installations reported by Popcon: 195

   mailreader (#561127), orphaned 3 days ago
 Description: Simple, but powerful WWW mail reader system
 Installations reported by Popcon: 28

   openrpg (#560847), orphaned 5 days ago
 Description: client/server application to play RPG over the Internet
 Installations reported by Popcon: 91

   pgn-extract (#561252), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: Portable Game Notation (PGN) extractor
 Installations reported by Popcon: 51

   sffview (#561202), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: Structured Fax File (SFF) Viewer
 Installations reported by Popcon: 66

   sphinx2 (#560849), orphaned 5 days ago
 Description: speech recognition utilities
 Reverse Depends: libsphinx2-dev sphinx2-bin
 Installations reported by Popcon: 273

   tex-chess (#561256), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: Chess fonts for TeX/LaTeX
 Installations reported by Popcon: 107

   tex-skak (#561257), orphaned 2 days ago
 Description: Chess fonts for TeX/LaTeX
 Installations reported by Popcon: 64

   xpaint (#560990), orphaned 4 days ago
 Description: simple paint program for X
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1239

   xview (#560744), orphaned 6 days ago
 Description: XView UI toolkit library and client programs
 Reverse Depends: arb circlepack imaze-xview olwm workman xjove
   xview-clients xview-examples xviewg-dev xvmount
 Installations reported by Popcon: 439

644 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned for a complete list.



The following packages have been given up for adoption:

   mediawiki-metavidwiki (#560772), offered 5 days ago
 Description: A MediaWiki extension for associative temporal metadata
 Installations reported by Popcon: 57

   mediawiki-semediawiki (#560773), offered 5 days ago
 Description: Semantic MediaWiki helps to organise and search
   MediaWiki content
 Reverse Depends: mediawiki-metavidwiki
 Installations reported by Popcon: 91

   xdaliclock (#561233), offered 2 days ago
 Description: Melting digital clock
 Installations reported by Popcon: 727

128 older packages have been omitted from this listing, see
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bypackage for a complete list.



For the following packages help is requested:

   apt-cross (#540341), requested 132 days ago
 Description: retrieve, build and install libraries for
   cross-compiling
 Reverse Depends: apt-cross emdebian-buildsupport emdebian-qa
   emdebian-rootfs emdebian-tools libemdebian-tools-perl
 Installations reported by Popcon: 318

   ara (#450876), requested 767 days ago
 Description: utility for searching the Debian package database
 Installations reported by Popcon: 112

   asymptote (#517342), requested 293 days ago
 Description: script-based vector graphics language inspired by
   MetaPost
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1165

   athcool (#278442), requested 1878 days ago
 Description: Enable powersaving mode for Athlon/Duron processors
 Installations reported by Popcon: 165

   boinc (#511243), requested 343 days ago
 Description: BOINC distributed computing
 Reverse Depends: boinc-app-milkyway boinc-app-seti boinc-dbg
 Installations reported by Popcon: 1654

   cvs (#354176), requested 1393 days ago
 Description: Concurrent Versions System
 Reverse Depends: crossvc cvs-autoreleasedeb cvs-buildpac

Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Hi all,

I'm trying to write a debian/watch file for an upstream package which 
has a version number 1.2.3-rc4. For the debian package I need to drop
the dash from the version number to give a debian version number of
1.2.3rc4.

Any clues on how to do this? If I just use:

   package-(.*).tar.gz

uscan complains that it can't find the current version (1.2.3rc4) on
the server.

Cheers,
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Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:

> uscan complains that it can't find the current version (1.2.3rc4) on
> the server.

I'm currently doing:

  version=3
  opts=filenamemangle=s/-// \
 http://example.com/files/ package-(.*).tar.gz

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Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Ruben Molina
El vie, 18-12-2009 a las 14:14 +1100, Erik de Castro Lopo escribió:
> I'm trying to write a debian/watch file for an upstream package which 
> has a version number 1.2.3-rc4. For the debian package I need to drop
> the dash from the version number to give a debian version number of
> 1.2.3rc4.

Hi Erik,

You can use uversionmangle (see uscan manpage), but I think you should
use 1.2.3~rc4 instead of 1.2.3rc4 because 1.2.3rc4 > 1.2.3 (see dpkg
--compare-versions).

Try something like: 
opts="uversionmangle=s/-rc/~rc/" http://site/package-(.*).tar.gz

Regards,
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Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Erik de Castro Lopo  writes:

> Any clues on how to do this? If I just use:
>
>package-(.*).tar.gz

For a start, you should replace the allows-empty match ‘(.*)’ with one
that requires at least one character ‘(.+)’.

That's orthogonal to the behaviour you're describing. though.

> uscan complains that it can't find the current version (1.2.3rc4) on
> the server.

Can you give us the full URL so that we can test our proposals before
posting them?

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Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Ben Finney wrote:

> For a start, you should replace the allows-empty match ‘(.*)’ with one
> that requires at least one character ‘(.+)’.

Noted. Thanks.

> Can you give us the full URL so that we can test our proposals before
> posting them?

   http://zhevny.com/specimen/files/specimen-0.5.2-rc3.tar.gz

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Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Erik de Castro Lopo  writes:

> I'm trying to write a debian/watch file for an upstream package which 
> has a version number 1.2.3-rc4. For the debian package I need to drop
> the dash from the version number

Why do you need to drop the hyphen? A hyphen is perfectly valid in the
upstream version string.

> to give a debian version number of 1.2.3rc4.

You're making a non-native package (i.e. making a Debian package of a
work of general use independent of Debian). That version string is not a
valid Debian version string for a non-native package.

Instead, the Debian version string should be the upstream version string
(mangled if necessary for the version comparison to work), followed by
the Debian release component separate by a hyphen. Note that this does
*not* conflict with hyphens in the upstream version string.


What you'll probably need to do, if I can guess, is to mangle the
upstream version string so their special-keyword games play properly
with Debian's version comparison semantics. That is, I suspect you want
‘1.2.3-rc4’ to compare *earlier* than ‘1.2.3’, which it doesn't; hence
mangling will be required.

If you could post the actual URL to the upstream source location, more
specific advice could be offered.

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Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to write a debian/watch file for an upstream package which 
> has a version number 1.2.3-rc4. For the debian package I need to drop
> the dash from the version number to give a debian version number of
> 1.2.3rc4.
> 
> Any clues on how to do this? If I just use:
> 
>package-(.*).tar.gz
> 
> uscan complains that it can't find the current version (1.2.3rc4) on
> the server.

I have a solution.

The upstream version number is 0.5.2-rc3 which is invalid for a non-native
package and the current version of the package in debian, 0.5.2rc3,
doesn't compare correctly.

Therefore the debian package should be 0.5.2~rc3 (with a tilde) and the
debian/watch file should be:

version=3
opts=versionmangle=s/-rc/~rc/ \
http://zhevny.com/specimen/files/ specimen-(.+).tar.gz

Thanks to all who responded, both here and on IRC.

Cheers,
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Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Erik de Castro Lopo  writes:

>http://zhevny.com/specimen/files/specimen-0.5.2-rc3.tar.gz

Okay. The current list at http://zhevny.com/specimen/files/> shows
the following tarball files:

specimen-0.5.1.1.tar.gz
specimen-0.5.1.tar.gz
specimen-0.5.2-rc1.tar.gz
specimen-0.5.2-rc2.tar.gz
specimen-0.5.2-rc3.tar.gz

I will work on the assumption that there will, in future, be a
‘specimen-0.5.2.tar.gz’ and that the intended meaning will be for that
to be *later* than all the above.


As it stands, though, ‘0.5.2’ will always compare earlier than
‘0.5.2ANYTHINGATALL’, the opposite of what your upstream apparently
wants; which is why special keywords in version strings throw a spanner
in the works.

But the clever Debian folks have come up with a reasonably sane way to
accomodate weird upstream version-comparison perversions. That is done
with an exception to the comparisons, using the tilde ‘~’ (see Debian
policy §5.6.12. for the details).

So you'll need to mangle the upstream version string into a version
string that will actually compare the way upstream expects it to:

# debian/watch
# Debian uscan file for ‘libspecimen’ package.
# Manpage: uscan(1)

# Compulsory line, this is a version 3 file.
version=3

# Current version from Cheese Shop.
opts="uversionmangle=s/-([a-z]+\d+)$/~$1/" \
http://zhevny.com/specimen/files/specimen-(.+).tar.gz

Using that watch file, I get the following result:

$ uscan --package libspecimen --upstream-version 0.5.1 --watchfile watch 
libspecimen: Newer version (0.5.2~rc3) available on remote site:
  http://zhevny.com/specimen/files/specimen-0.5.2-rc3.tar.gz
  (local version is 0.5.1)
Not downloading as --package was used.  Use --download to force
downloading.


Hope that helps.

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Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Erik de Castro Lopo  writes:

> The upstream version number is 0.5.2-rc3 which is invalid for a
> non-native package

No, it's fine for the upstream version string to contain a hyphen. See
Debian policy §5.6.12., where the hyphen is explicitly listed as one of
the valid characters in the upstream version string component.

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Re: Help with uscan

2009-12-17 Thread Ben Finney
Ben Finney  writes:

> # Current version from Cheese Shop.
> opts="uversionmangle=s/-([a-z]+\d+)$/~$1/" \
> http://zhevny.com/specimen/files/specimen-(.+).tar.gz

Erm. Ignore the comment line; clearly I cut-and-paste from one of my own
packages and failed to edit the comment accordingly.

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Bug#561556: ITP: lxde-icon-theme -- LXDE Standard icon theme

2009-12-17 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Andrew Lee (李健秋)" 

* Package name: lxde-icon-theme
  Version : 0.0.1
  Upstream Author : Hong Jen Yee (PCMan) 
* URL : http://lxde.org
* License : (LGPL)
  Programming Lang: (etc.)
  Description : LXDE Standard icon theme

  This package contains lxde-icon-theme which is the default icon theme
  for LXDE, also known as nuoveXT2 icon theme.



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