Re: About 1st debian CD

2002-05-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog

Le Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:57:57PM -0500, Chris Lawrence écrivait:
> 2. (To whomever is responsible for these images:) You probably should
> update your copy of debian-cd from CVS and remove "base-woody" from
> the task file you are using.  This will eliminate a lot of stuff
> that's allegedly "base" but unimportant.  Pick a 2.2 and a 2.4 kernel
> image and put them in your task file.

Hey, certainly not ... base-woody is what debootstrap needs to be able
to install a new system. If you remove base-woody, you can't guarantee
that the install will go ok.

I'm sure you meant "task-woody" instead.

What needs to be done, is that someone should come up with a new
tasks/exclude-woody & tasks/unexclude-CD2-woody ... the first one
would be used to remove the cruft from CD1, while the other to add back
the files that should be on the CDs but not on CD1. Maybe this could
be sorted out by reordering the packages in tasks-woody too ... i don't
know which is best.

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Re: About 1st debian CD

2002-05-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog

Le Sat, May 04, 2002 at 12:20:01PM +1200, Philip Charles écrivait:
> way around this would be to EXCLUDE selected kernel-images and UNEXCLUDE2
> this list of images for CD2.

Yes.

> task.list lists the tasks in the order I want them on the CDs, task-woody
> now lists the packages needed for each task in the same order as
> task.list.  This list is _not_ sorted.
> 
> Thanks for the tip about the kernel images, this could mean that all of
> games, junior and science will end up on the first CD.

Please commit your task-woody on the CVS, and also commit the
exclude-woody and unexclude-CD2-woody ... thanks !

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Re: About 1st debian CD

2002-05-04 Thread Philip Charles

On Sat, 4 May 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

>
> Please commit your task-woody on the CVS, and also commit the
> exclude-woody and unexclude-CD2-woody ... thanks !

I am doing another rebuild at the moment with a few improvements.  At this
stage it seems that tex, fortran and i18n will be on CD2.

Phil.

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Re: About jigdo test on cdimage.d.o

2002-05-04 Thread Heikki Vatiainen

Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, 2002-05-02 at 18:19, Heikki Vatiainen wrote:
> > The images were built correctly once maxMissing was raised above 25,
> > just as Mattias noted. It looks like about 80 files were fetched from
> > the snapshot archive for e.g. i386 disk 3.  This was the reason why I
> > only built three CDs since downloading hundreds of files for just
> > testing seemed like waste of bandwidth when an up-to-date mirror is
> > sitting on the same disk. Phil, are you planning to update the
> > snapshot soon?
> 
> Yeah, will do tonight probably.  open's currently fscking it's /home,
> having marked /home read-only after finding a broken directory inode
> this afternoon.

Looks like 3.0-pre3 for i386 and source have been made available. I
gave them a try and now everything was taken from the local mirror
except of one file. This is
pool/main/g/geomview/geomview_1.8.1.orig.tar.gz and it looks like you
still have a corrupted file in your mirror. Please see my mail to
debian-cd on 11 April, you may have missed it then.

I am also interested in the general opinion if the test images should
be made publicly available. I have only built the images but I have not
otherwise tested them by burning them on a CD and trying to do the
actual installation.

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cvs commit to debian-cd/tasks by philipc

2002-05-04 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master

Repository: debian-cd/tasks
who:philipc
time:   Sat May  4 05:34:16 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  
  Modified Debian_woody
  Modified task-woody
  Added task.list
  Added exclude-woody
  Added unexclude-CD2-woody
  These changes ensure that all tasks except i18n and tex are on CD1.
  

Files:
changed:Debian_woody task-woody


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Re: About 1st debian CD

2002-05-04 Thread Philip Charles

On Sat, 4 May 2002, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

> Please commit your task-woody on the CVS, and also commit the
> exclude-woody and unexclude-CD2-woody ... thanks !

Changes to Debian_woody and task-woody have been committed to cvs.
excude-woody, unexclude-CD2-woody and tasks.list have been added.

This means that all tasks are now on CD1, except the i18n and tex which
are split beween the first two CDs.

Phil.

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cvs commit to debian-cd/tasks by philipc

2002-05-04 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master

Repository: debian-cd/tasks
who:philipc
time:   Sat May  4 06:24:13 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  
  Corrected error in Debian_woody
  

Files:
changed:Debian_woody


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cvs commit to debian-cd by hertzog

2002-05-04 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master

Repository: debian-cd
who:hertzog
time:   Sat May  4 06:25:03 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  * Applied patch for #145318.
  * Updated README.sbm.
  

Files:
changed:Makefile


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cvs commit to debian-cd/data/woody by hertzog

2002-05-04 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master

Repository: debian-cd/data/woody
who:hertzog
time:   Sat May  4 06:25:03 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  * Applied patch for #145318.
  * Updated README.sbm.
  

Files:
changed:README.sbm


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cvs commit to debian-cd/debian by hertzog

2002-05-04 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master

Repository: debian-cd/debian
who:hertzog
time:   Sat May  4 06:25:03 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  * Applied patch for #145318.
  * Updated README.sbm.
  

Files:
changed:changelog


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cvs commit to debian-cd/tools/boot/woody by hertzog

2002-05-04 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master

Repository: debian-cd/tools/boot/woody
who:hertzog
time:   Sat May  4 06:25:03 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  * Applied patch for #145318.
  * Updated README.sbm.
  

Files:
changed:boot-mipsel

added:  post-boot-mipsel


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Re: About 1st debian CD

2002-05-04 Thread Mantas K.

Hi again,

I'm talking about semi-official (?) prerelease CD's from:
http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/
(pre2) and from:
http://cdimage.debian.org/pre-release-jigdo/
(pre1, See http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2002/18/ and 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2002/debian-cd-200204/msg00435.html)

Now I see pre3 in http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/ and there is anarchy 
in 1st CD too :( for example now mc-common and gmc are included in 1st CD, 
but there is no mc package and no xserver (now xfonts-75dpi are included in 
first CD, this is good, but all kernel-images-2.4.16 are still in 1st CD and 
maybe because of this full x-window-system does not fit in 1st CD)

See list of packages, included in 1st CD on 
http://cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0-pre3/jigdo/i386/woody-i386-1_NONUS.jigdo
(this is gzipped text file)

Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In previous prelelease (debian-30pre1-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso) almost all 
>> x-window-system packages were in the 1st CD, why in pre2 most X packages 
>> are moved in second CD ?
> 
> 1. What CD images are you referring to?  The ones on ftp.fsn.hu are
> unofficial, as are any other CD images floating around on the net.

OK, I think that full x-window-system is most important (the majority of 
games, junior and science packages are not usefull without full 
x-window-system (xserver-xfree86, xserver-common, xfonts-base, 
xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi, maybe xfonts-*-transcoded, etc)

Philip Charles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the tip about the kernel images, this could mean that all of
> games, junior and science will end up on the first CD.


I don't know about true Depend (I've not tested, because my debian system is 
full of packages and I don't know how to make a test without reinstaling OS.
Maybe we just need to set the priorities differently for which packages to 
go on which CD.

Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is that actually true do the "Depend" or are you just saying that most
> people won't have much use for abiword if they don't have an xserver on
> the same machine.

Sorry, I did some manual tests of second CD (with mc) and didn't find any 
packages that really Depends on packages not from first or second CDs :( 
Maybe this is my mistake ?
We need to do some automated test to ensure.

>> second CD contains packages, that depends on other packages  that are not in 
>> the first and second CD's and so on :(
> 
> Could you cite some examples please.


Mantas K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


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Re: About 1st debian CD

2002-05-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog

Le Sat, May 04, 2002 at 04:09:33PM +, Mantas K. écrivait:
> Sorry, I did some manual tests of second CD (with mc) and didn't find any 
> packages that really Depends on packages not from first or second CDs :( 
> Maybe this is my mistake ?

Well, debian-cd will never include a package without its dependencies.
So theoretically, you can't find such a package. However it's true that
some indirect (ie not codified via Depends field) depends may be wrong.
For example, you may have an X app on CD1 which depends on xlib6g but
without any xserver on that CD. This needs to be taken care of manually.

Thanks to Philip Charles, this has been done now.

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Debian 3.0

2002-05-04 Thread Chaz Kiser

Where could I procure me a download of Debian 3.0?

Chaz Kiser


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