Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??
Le Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 04:50:50PM -0800, David Kimdon écrivait: > aph and I were just talking on irc, how about : > > cd1: idepci; cd2 scsi; cd3: bf2.4; cd4: vanilla > > That gives us language chooser on the first CD, a big plus, while > still giving us 2.2 as 'default'. IMO leaving the language chooser > off the first CD would be a real shame. I thought the same, we lost so much time with the language chooser that if it wasn't used it would be a shame. That's why I didn't understand your first reaction about keeping things like they are. On the other hand, if we are making this change, why not use bf2.4 directly ... from the bit of reading of debian-boot I have the feeling that it has been as much tested as the other flavors. But since aj is opposed and you feel the same I think we'll keep it off the first CD. We also have the MULTIBOOT feature, that let us select a flavor to boot on but it hasn't been widely tested afaik... > Any seconds? I'm ok. I prefer this to nothing. I'd be tempted to put bf2.4 on the second CD but it doesn't change much ... Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog -+- http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/~raphael/ Formation Linux et logiciel libre : http://www.logidee.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.2_r6 CDs at cdimage.d.o
On 5 Apr 2002, Philip Hands wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Sorry about the delay, I'm afraid the release slipped by without my > noticing it. In future, feel free to Cc: me in on the "Where are the > new CD images" message you send here, just to make sure that (as > happened in this case) I'd not been desubscribed from the list, and been > busy enough not to take too much notice of that fact. > > Anyway, the new images are up for grabs in the normal place: > > rsync://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/ Mirrored in full on ftp.se.debian.org (aka ftp.acc.umu.se). Most other mirrors I found that have already gotten some of this lacks the potato_test link dir and so on. /Mattias Wadenstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: frame-buffer on vanilla?
#include Herbert Xu wrote on Sat Apr 06, 2002 um 08:53:49PM: > > Enabling VGA16 as a module will be done in the next release. > > Actually it won't be since vga16 is only modularised in 2.4. Okay, let's make a summary (+ is pro, - is contra): - vanilla (2.2.20) + known as stable - no framebuffer, so no lang chooser (adding requires changes in kernel and evtl. in bfs) - no support for modern hardware (harddisks controllers, network cards) - no support for modern filesystems - bf2.4 + framebuffer, lang-chosser possible +/- relatively stable, probably less stable as 2.2.x if you use new features - compact + framebuffer, lang-chosser possible + (see vanilla) -- (see vanilla) - too few drivers for a default install, not even sound cards - idepci (2.2.20) ++--- (see compact) - almost limited to IDE and PCI stuff, but more stable on such machines. Best/Only useable as fallback option for seldom broken hardware, IMHO. Change to bf2.4 on the first CD requires a swap of few bytes in debian-cd, which needs a new release anyhow. These are not real arguments, but a simple calculation. Not using bf2.4 on the first CD (*) is a shame. (*) I do not say default. "Default" implies "the best working choice" for most people, which is not true if you have (in useability) equal options. Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- for i in *; do if ( cat $i | grep -q hallo ); then echo $i; fi; done [einen Tag später] -:- Topic (#debian.de): changed by _shorty_: Award fuer useless use of cat an Weasel verliehen. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to debian-cd/debian by hertzog
Repository: debian-cd/debian who:hertzog time: Sat Apr 6 04:30:55 PST 2002 Log Message: * Put idepci on the first CD. Fix multiboot for adding vanilla.bin alternative image when the old default image is not used as default... * Change kernel name for alpha bf too even if the new bf are not yet available... Files: changed:changelog -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to debian-cd/tools/boot/woody by hertzog
Repository: debian-cd/tools/boot/woody who:hertzog time: Sat Apr 6 04:30:55 PST 2002 Log Message: * Put idepci on the first CD. Fix multiboot for adding vanilla.bin alternative image when the old default image is not used as default... * Change kernel name for alpha bf too even if the new bf are not yet available... Files: changed:boot-alpha boot-i386 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: frame-buffer on vanilla?
#include Anthony Towns wrote on Sat Apr 06, 2002 um 10:14:16PM: > On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:08:25PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > > > Actually it won't be since vga16 is only modularised in 2.4. > > Okay, let's make a summary (+ is pro, - is contra): > > Eduard, _no_. > > What part of that don't you understand? The "wtf no without any GOOD reasons" part. Gruss/Regards, Eduard. -- Es kann aeusserst gefaehrlich sein, etwas ohne ausreichende Vorbereitung aus der Sicht eines anderen Menschen zu betrachten. === Douglas Adams / Einmal Rupert und zurueck === -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2.2_r6 jigdo files cdimage.d.o
Hi, I've just made some Jigdo files for the 2.2_r6 images. Given that this is my first attempt at doing jigdo stuff, and that I did some messing about with the archive that was used in order to be able to snapshot the files that make up the CDs, there is a reasonable chance that the jigdo files are drivel. Having said that, I'm trying out i386 1_NONUS as I type, and it's certainly downloading lots of stuff, so it may be OK :-). The Jigdo files are here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cd-images/jigdo/2.2_rev6/ The archive tree from which they were made is here: http://cdimage.debian.org/2.2r6-snapshot/ which is a directory tree populated with hard links, so effectively takes up no extra space on the server (until things start disapearing from the pool) but meanwhile ensures that every file required to reconstitute the CD images from the jigdo files will be available, even if they are ever removed from the pool. Assuming this approach works, I plan to adopt it for future Jigdo builds, with an eye to making the initial mirrors use jigdo (once we're happy with it), which would make the mad rush for CD images into a case of grabbing a few tens of megabytes of jigdo files and then rebuilding the images from the local archive (that practically every CD mirror also maintains). Success/failure reports would be appreciated. Also, if you can tell that there's stuff missing from the jigdo file (i.e. bloating the template file) please tell me whart, and I'll try to work out what's wrong with my directory tree. Cheers, Phil. -- Say no to software patents! http://petition.eurolinux.org/ |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560]http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd.http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: 2.2_r6 CDs at cdimage.d.o
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 08:08:54PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > BTW, I'm generating Jigdo files for these images. Many thanks, very much appreciated since I'm very busy ATM! > Richard, am I right in thinking that > open:~atterer/bin/make-templates is the thing to do this with --- I > grabbed a copy, and changed the target directory & URL. It should work fine, although: - Anne has added jigdo support to debian-cd. That support has seen very little testing so far, this would have been a good opportunity :-) - The make-templates and jigdo-file in my home are a bit outdated. In the meantime, the file format has changed and jigdo-lite supports gzipped jigdo files. But it is backwards-compatible, so no big deal. - You could also have copied jigdo-cache.db from my home to yours, it would have saved a lot of time. - Change the email address in the script, or I'll get mailed the results ;) Cheers, Richard PS: Please try not to use my address richard(at)atterer.net on public mailing lists; use [EMAIL PROTECTED] or Bcc. -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | CS student at the Technische | GnuPG key: | \/¯| http://atterer.net | Universität München, Germany | 0x888354F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??
On Apr 06, Philip Hands wrote: > The closest I'd be willing to go towards making a change, would be some > form of kernel selection menu on the first CD, still with the vanilla > 2.2 kernel as the default, but giving people the choice even if they > only get CD#1. > > That would be conditional on some evidence being forthcomming that the > resulting CD would be bootable on at least as many machines as is > currently the case. Can anyone provide that? > > The ISOLINUX/MEMDISK thing mentioned earlier looks interesting. Has > anyone played with this? Presumably we could use MEMDISK to select > between boot floppies, with no changes required to the boot floppy > images, so would only change things by bumping a few packages off the > end of CD#1. I'll try an experiment this weekend. My gut feeling is that you can probably do it without bumping anything off the ISO, as the other flavors are already on disc 1 anyway (just not in the boot sector). Now, whether or not this is going to be acceptable to aj on the official CDs is another question. But it's an option that most vendors will probably jump at. Chris -- Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - http://www.lordsutch.com/chris/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.2_r6 CDs at cdimage.d.o
BTW, wouldn't it be useful if new stable CD images were announced on debian-announce? I think many end users prefer to wait for images rather than updating via the net, so the extra mail is justified IMHO. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | CS student at the Technische | GnuPG key: | \/¯| http://atterer.net | Universität München, Germany | 0x888354F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.2_r6 jigdo files cdimage.d.o
On 6 Apr 2002, Philip Hands wrote: > Assuming this approach works, I plan to adopt it for future Jigdo > builds, with an eye to making the initial mirrors use jigdo (once we're > happy with it), which would make the mad rush for CD images into a case > of grabbing a few tens of megabytes of jigdo files and then rebuilding > the images from the local archive (that practically every CD mirror also > maintains). Hmm.. This might be a very good idea if someone would write the jigdo-mirror script (or point me towards it if it is already done). Also having the jigdo files and md5sums available for mirrors on a separate path from any public cdimage access. If jigdo-mirror doesn't work for everyone, it would probably be a good idea to restrict cdimage access too. Last time (potato release) it was very painful to get the images for us as an official mirror. We will probably have rsync-debcd.acc.umu.se available on hardware separate from ftp.se.debian.org at release time. We can't be sure, but it will work (at worst the same as ftp.se.debian.org) and be the best choice for others to mirror from. For extra fun ftp.se.debian.org == ftp.gnome.org and the gnome desktop 2.0 release is currently scheduled for May 1st. :) /Mattias Wadenstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multiboot testing please ...
Hi people, with the recent discussions, I have the feeling that we should push for the multiboot stuff on the first disc. It's probably not going to make it for 3.0r0 but we have to work on it right now to make it possible for 3.0r1 (or later). So basically I want that someone creates a test image with the MULTIBOOT feature. Only disc 1 is needed. He put it on a server somewhere for download. Then we ask debian-testing for feedback about this multiboot stuff ... I'd like this to go fast if possible since we don't have much time. Chris Lawrence is willing to do tests with isolinux, please continue as we may want to try that if we have troubles with the actual multiboot stuff. Feel free to prepare a patch too. :) It may also have more interesting features (no size limit on the boot image, more configurable menu and so on). Cheers, PS: This is all i386 only ... -- Raphaël Hertzog -+- http://strasbourg.linuxfr.org/~raphael/ Formation Linux et logiciel libre : http://www.logidee.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiboot testing please ...
[Raphael Hertzog] > So basically I want that someone creates a test image with the > MULTIBOOT feature. Only disc 1 is needed. He put it on a server > somewhere for download. Then we ask debian-testing for feedback > about this multiboot stuff ... I'd like this to go fast if possible > since we don't have much time. Check ftp://ftp.skolelinux.no/skolelinux-cd/>. We have enabled MULTIBOOT on release 17. It is not a standard CD, but the only change is which packages are included. KDE and some servers are included on the first CD. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Sin Título]
Hi, I jave donwloaded and installed today jigdo 0.6.3 for windows and jigdp-lite2win. I am using Win98. I have tried to download potato but I keep getting the (in) famous "Aaargh - not all files could be downloaded. This should not happen! Depending on the problem, it may help to restart the download." I have tried with +10 servers in different countries, both with FTP and HTTP. I have noticed some files giver "File not found" errors while others are downloaded over and over (eg: policy.pdf.gz). 83 files are still missing. I would go with rsync but I don't have a unix bos available (yet!) so rsync won't help me. Can I rename "debian-22rev5-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso.tmp" to "debian- 22rev5-i386-binary-1_NONUS.iso" and burn the cd? Would that work? I could use rsync once potato is up and running... Thanks for your help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cvs commit to debian-cd/tools/boot/woody by lawrencc
Repository: debian-cd/tools/boot/woody
who:lawrencc
time: Sat Apr 6 20:24:22 PST 2002
Log Message:
Fix use of ${VAR:-default} construct; it doesn't seem to like
substitutions in the VAR part.
Files:
changed:boot-i386
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Re: 2.4 kernel as default boot kernel on CD #1 ??
On Sat Apr 06, 2002 at 12:26:13PM -0600, Chris Lawrence wrote: > Now, whether or not this is going to be acceptable to aj on the > official CDs is another question. But it's an option that most > vendors will probably jump at. The slackware installer already uses isolinux, which lets then pack multiple kernels onto a single CD Here is what they do: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/slackware/isolinux/ -Erik -- Erik B. Andersen http://codepoet-consulting.com/ --This message was written using 73% post-consumer electrons-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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