[Fwd: Re: Demographic analysis of debian user's language (was Re:b-f one-liner needs translating]

[Phil Blundell]

It would be great if debian-cd could include these files somehow.

p.


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On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 10:33, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote:
> Perhaps if you put all the localisation data for each language into a
> separate file that is searched for in the root directory of the
> floppy, then people could download a localisation file separately and
> copy it onto the floppy. It wouldn't then matter so much which
> localisations are included with the standard floppy image. Also, it
> would be possible to add and update localisations without rereleasing
> the floppy image.

The image on the root floppy disk is compressed, which will make it
awkward for users to add extra files there.

I've checked in some changes to the boot-floppies to allow extra
language catalogs to be shipped on the CD.  This is obviously no help to
people who are booting from floppy disk, but it's probably better than
nothing.

For those on debian-boot, the drill is that dbootstrap searches for
extra languages in /.xlp/messages.XX on the CD during program startup. 
Any catalogs it finds are copied into /etc from where LC will pick them
up.  The build process creates an archive xlp.tgz containing the
catalogs for everything in $(langs), and i386-specials/mini-iso.sh knows
how to put it onto the CD.

p.

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Re: [Fwd: Re: Demographic analysis of debian user's language (was Re: b-f one-liner needs translating]

[Raphael Hertzog]

Le Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:18:39AM +, Phil Blundell écrivait:
> It would be great if debian-cd could include these files somehow.

Are those files architecture specific ? If yes, do you provide them
for all architectures ?

> catalogs for everything in $(langs), and i386-specials/mini-iso.sh knows
> how to put it onto the CD.

What is this script ?

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A debian medical project

[Renato BARRIOS]

Title: A debian medical  project



Dear Sirs,
Please see our medical and health informatical project with debian and its packages. The aim of this idea is to offer high quality and economically available software to contribute to health networks development, specially in unfavorized regions.
The website is at
http://ovnibus.free.fr
We will work with XML(Doc-Book XML of linux debian distribution). Maybe people working or interested by sgml could help us.
We need people interested by packaging and debian-cd to make a cdrom.

Renato BARRIOS
OVNIBUS project 

A medical debian project

[Renato BARRIOS]

Title: A medical debian project



Dear Sirs,
Please see our medical and health informatical project with debian and its packages. The aim of this idea is to offer high quality and economically available software to contribute to health networks development, specially in unfavorized regions.
The website is at
http://ovnibus.free.fr
We will work with XML(Doc-Book XML of linux debian distribution). 
We need people skilled in debian-cd and packaging.

Renato BARRIOS
OVNIBUS project 

Where ?

[Hervé Criaud]

Hi!
I'm french and will be a new user of Debian if I 
can download cd images on a french server.
The problem is that :
I could not find the listfile to make a 
pseudo-image.
Would you like to answer me what name got the 
listfile for a x86.
Thanks
Herve Criaud
 

cvs commit to debian-cd/tasks by lawrencc

[Debian Boot CVS Master]

Repository: debian-cd/tasks
who:lawrencc
time:   Thu Mar  7 08:37:17 PST 2002
Log Message:
  The task list was generated incorrectly (it only picked up tasks with
  hyphens in their names).  I regenerated it as of today and put the
  correct instructions for generating it in the header.
  
  

Files:
changed:task-woody


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Missing filesystems for 2.4 kernel on testing cds

[Bradford Powell]

Hello,

I've downloaded and tried the unofficial woody cd (just disc 1) from
powerpc.trasno.net (downloaded on March 1). I have installed debian i386
on numerous computers before. This time I am installing on my wife's ibook
(dual usb) to decide if I want one myself for my next laptop.

Aside-- my first linux install was slackware on my then-girlfriend's 386SX
Packard Bell using the UMSDOS filesystem so as not to interfere with her
win3.1 files. I didn't lose any of her files and she ended up marrying me
(a few years later). I'm not sure what would have happened had the install
gone awry...

Anyway, my first plan was to install with an nfs root and netboot, both
because I think it would be cool and because there would be as little
alteration to her data as possible.

So, I boot from the cd, choose 'linux24' from yaboot, and start
installation. When it gets to the point of mounting root over nfs, (after
network was properly setup by dhcp: I tested this by pinging the nfs
server), the install script was unable to do so. Dropping to the shell in
the other console, catting /proc/filesystems does not list nfs.

Then I decided to try nfs root install under the old kernel. This time the
root fs was mounted, base system was installed (I think), but before base
system install was complete, debootstrap reported "unable to run chroot
/target dpkg".

At this point I decided to go ahead and install directly to th harddisk
(after asking nicely for a few Gigs to work in and promising not to do
anything irrevocable).

Repartitioning went as planned. Again, I chose linux24 from the
yaboot selector. Now after formatting the root partition and mounting it,
the time came to install the base system. So I selected install from
CD. Unable to mount cd... I checked /proc/filesystems: no iso9660.

I then proceeded to install to the hard disk using the 2.2 kernel and
updated to 2.4 with my first deselect.

Summary:

the linux24 kernel on the install cd should probably have the
  filesystems iso9660 and nfs compiled in.
I'm not sure what went wrong with the install to an nfs root using the
  2.2 kernel (unable to run chroot /target dpkg)
But, I did get it installed (but haven't done much with it yet).

Let me know if any more details would be helpful.

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A medical debian based project

[Renato BARRIOS]

Hi,
Please see our medical and health informatical project with debian and its
packages. The aim of this idea is to offer high quality and economically
available software to contribute to health networks development, specially
in unfavorized regions.
The website is at
http://ovnibus.free.fr
We will work with XML(Doc-Book XML of linux debian distribution). Maybe
people working or interested by sgml could help us.
We need people interested by packaging and debian-cd to make a cdrom.

Renato BARRIOS
OVNIBUS project 


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Re: Official woody netinst images

[Richard Atterer]

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 01:32:54PM -0900, Greg Madden wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 March 2002 12:35 pm, Ted Cabeen wrote:
[WE WANT 1001 UTILITIES ON THE CD;-]

FWIW, 2.4 kernels support transparent decompression of loop-mounted
filesystems. The Knoppix live CD uses this to provide a 1.2G ext2
image on a normal-sized CD - very nice!

But IMHO there should be a working netinst image first - we can think
about extra features once we have that.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: Jigsaw Download "lite" problem

[Richard Atterer]

Hello,

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:55:44PM +0100, Hans-Olof Danielsson wrote:
> When downloading woody testing with jigdo-lite2win
> the screen looks like this after about 8 Mb downloading:
[snip]
> jigdo-file print-missing: Invalid template data - corrupted file?
> jigdo-file failed with code 3 - aborting.

>  What to do to get rid of this problem?

The format of template files has changed, you need to upgrade to a
version of jigdo-file that understands the new format. Download
, rename it to
jigdo-file.exe and replace the jigdo-lite2win-supplied jigdo-file.exe
with it.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: Official woody netinst images

[Richard Atterer]

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:42:07PM -0500, David B Harris wrote:
> >  - <100MB, should fit on a credit-card sized CD (=150MB) - maybe
> >just boot-floppies and base. One should be able to install via
> >the net even with hardware which is not supported by
> >boot-floppies, e.g. PCI ISDN cards.
> 
> While I would agree with the latter(the extra supported hardware), I
> disagree with the former. The smaller, the better.

Actually, I agree with that, too! :)

[snip]
> The more general the support in debian-cd, the better. I don't
> really know a lot about the current solution, but it's probably
> adequate if it handles multiple boot images on a single CD.

IIRC, offering a choice of images to boot from is difficult... there
was some discussion here a while ago about the different ways, and
none seemed to work 100%.

> > BTW, I have no intention of doing the changes myself, just of
> > prodding everybody else hard enough to make it happen. ;-P
> 
> I'll look into it, but were you going to be maintaining the
> "official" Debian netinst CD? (Yeah, I know, it may not be Official,
> but the next-closest thing.)

Well, my idea is that once support for netinst CDs is in debian-cd,
whoever generates the official images will always also create official
netinst CD images. The netinst CDs would be maintained as part of
debian-cd.

I think I haven't got CVS write access for debian-cd ATM (actually,
I've never tried;), but if you post any patches here and they work for
other people, I'm certain they will make their way into CVS.

Unfortunately, I'm not able to help myself because I lack both a
permanent internet connection and a local Debian mirror...

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: Official woody netinst images

[Karl-Martin Skontorp]

* Richard Atterer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>  - <100MB, should fit on a credit-card sized CD (=150MB) - maybe just
>boot-floppies and base. One should be able to install via the net
>even with hardware which is not supported by boot-floppies, e.g. 
>PCI ISDN cards.

I don't think my credit-card CDs will fit more than about 30 MB. The
images from here fit:

http://people.debian.org/~ieure/netinst/

There are also some 80 mm. CDs, about 200 MB. They are not
rectangular, but will fit in a shirt pocket.


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Re: Official woody netinst images

[Christian Leber]

On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 04:25:07PM +0100, Richard Atterer wrote:

> there's still no support in debian-cd for the creation of netinst
> images, is there? It would be nice to have something working by the
> time we release... :-/

In the boot-floppies there is a skript to create something like
this.

BTW: The woody CD jigdo files are brocken at the moment btw. because
boot-floppies 3.0.19 were replaced by 3.0.20.

Regards,
Christian Leber

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Re: download softwares

[Richard Atterer]

On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 02:41:21AM +0100, Bernard Massot wrote:
> http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ You advise the reader to use wget
> if he is a unix user or getright if he is a windoze user. But wget
> *does* run under windoze et getright is a proprietary software !

I've now replaced the GetRight link with a link to Fresh Download. Not
sure whether that is an improvement - while Fresh Download is not
adware like GetRight, it does nag about "free registration" requiring
you to give an email address, and of course it is closed-source.

There just doesn't exist any Free HTTP download manager in the Windows
world.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: Official woody netinst images

[Chris Lawrence]

On Mar 07, Karl-Martin Skontorp wrote:
> * Richard Atterer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >  - <100MB, should fit on a credit-card sized CD (=150MB) - maybe just
> >boot-floppies and base. One should be able to install via the net
> >even with hardware which is not supported by boot-floppies, e.g. 
> >PCI ISDN cards.
> 
> I don't think my credit-card CDs will fit more than about 30 MB. The
> images from here fit:
> 
>   http://people.debian.org/~ieure/netinst/
> 
> There are also some 80 mm. CDs, about 200 MB. They are not
> rectangular, but will fit in a shirt pocket.

Here are the sizes I am aware of:

"Business card" CDs: ~50 MB (approximately 8 cm by 5 cm)
8 cm (3 in) CDs:~185 MB
12 cm (5 in) CDs:   ~650 MB / ~700 MB

(DVD-R(G) 2.0: ~4300 MB or 4.7x10^9 bytes)

I assume the first two formats can also be produced with the 700 MB
track spacing, but I don't think any vendors do that.

These are traditional megabyte figures, not 10^6 byte figures.

My general feeling is that the 50 MB size is really something of a
gimmick, as you can't really carry it around safely in a wallet
without breaking the CD.  The 185 MB size is pretty nice, though, and
you can put a useful Debian install on it.  (I can see the value in
providing all three sizes for CD 1: 50, 185, and 650.  But, you won't
fit anything much beyond disks-$ARCH on a 50 MB blank.)


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