Bug#939266: marked as done (debootstrap fails to create a sid chroot with Error executing gpgv to check Release signature)

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Package: debootstrap
Version: 1.0.114, 1.0.115~bpo10+1
Severity: important

I think debootstrap should be able to create a sid chroot but fails 
with this error,


$ sudo debootstrap sid /srv/chroot/debian-sid
I: Target architecture can be executed
I: Retrieving Release.gpg
I: Checking Release signature
E: Error executing gpgv to check Release signature

It works with creating buster chroot.

$ sudo debootstrap buster /srv/chroot/debian-buster
I: Target architecture can be executed
I: Retrieving InRelease
I: Checking Release signature
I: Valid Release signature (key id 
6D33866EDD8FFA41C0143AEDDCC9EFBF77E11517)

I: Retrieving Packages
I: Validating Packages
I: Resolving dependencies of required packages...
I: Resolving dependencies of base packages...
I: Checking component main on ...
I: Retrieving libacl1 2.2.53-4


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On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 10:41 PM, Cyril Brulebois  
wrote:
Pirate Praveen > (2019-09-02):
 On Mon, Sep 2, 2019 at 10:03 PM, Julien Cristau 
mailto:jcris...@debian.org>> wrote:

 > On Mon, Sep  2, 2019 at 21:27:46 +0500, Pirate Praveen wrote:
 >
 > >  How do I get this file? There is no such log in /var/log. 
There is

 > > no
 > >  logfile option I can find in manpage.
 > >
 > Look in /srv/chroot/debian-sid.
 >

 Thanks. debootstrap.log attached.


I don't really understand what's going on.

Can you please:
 - tell us what environment this is (assuming buster, with backports 
enabled?)


Yes, buster with backports enabled.


 - remove the target directory and start over, with the --verbose flag


This worked, now chroot is created. Thanks!


 - share the new debootstrap.log
 - tell us whether some (transparent) proxy might be having fun with 
your traffic


I tried to use apt-cacher-ng with auto-apt-proxy debootstrap once, not 
sure if that caused the issue.


Tried again, with sudo auto-apt-proxy debootstrap --verbose sid 
/srv/chroot/debian-sid2


This also worked.


 - try with forcing either cdn-fastly or cdn-aws
 - try with a different mirror (e.g. ftp 
.{ch,de,fr}.debian.org)



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Bug#935589: cdimage.debian.org: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package missing in xfce-CD-1 iso

[Julien Cristau]

On Mon, Sep  2, 2019 at 23:42:44 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:

> control: reassign -1 task-xfce-desktop
> 
> Hi Karthik,
> 
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 04:10:53PM +0530, karthik wrote:
> >Package: cdimage.debian.org
> >Severity: normal
> >
> >Dear Maintainer,
> >
> >*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate 
> >***
> >
> >   * What led up to the situation?
> > After a fresh install of xfce CD testing weekly iso on lenovo x230 
> > laptop, I have noticed that the touchpad options were missing in mouse & 
> > touchpad settings
> >   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
> > ineffective)?
> > installed xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package 
> >   * What was the outcome of this action?
> > touchpad options were visible back again!
> >   * What outcome did you expect instead?
> > same as above
> >
> >Please include this package in upcoming iso builds, It is an important one.
> 
> If it's important that it's available, then a better place for the bug
> would be against the task-xfce-desktop package. That way it will be
> pulled in automatically via dependencies for the CD build.
> 
The synaptics Xorg driver is obsolete and should not be installed by
default.

Cheers,
Julien

Bug#935589: cdimage.debian.org: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package missing in xfce-CD-1 iso

[Bjørn Mork]

Julien Cristau  writes:

> The synaptics Xorg driver is obsolete and should not be installed by
> default.

Maybe the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package could hint about this and
point to xserver-xorg-input-libinput?  As it is now, I don't understand
how anyone is supposed to figure out that this is an obsolete package;

Package: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
Version: 1.9.1-1
Installed-Size: 324
Maintainer: Debian X Strike Force 
Architecture: amd64
Replaces: xorg-driver-synaptics
Provides: xorg-driver-input, xorg-driver-synaptics
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.15), libevdev2 (>= 1.3), libx11-6, libxi6 (>= 2:1.2.0), 
libxtst6, xorg-input-abi-24, xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.18.99.901)
Suggests: gpointing-device-settings, touchfreeze
Conflicts: xorg-driver-synaptics
Breaks: kde-config-touchpad (<< 0.8.1-2~)
Description-en: Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server
 This package provides an input driver for the X.Org X server to enable
 advanced features of the Synaptics Touchpad including:
 .
  * Movement with adjustable, non-linear acceleration and speed
  * Button events through short touching of the touchpad
  * Double-Button events through double short touching of the touchpad
  * Dragging through short touching and holding down the finger on the touchpad
  * Middle and right button events on the upper and lower corner of the touchpad
  * Vertical scrolling (button four and five events) through moving the finger
on the right side of the touchpad
  * The up/down button sends button four/five events
  * Horizontal scrolling (button six and seven events) through moving the finger
on the lower side of the touchpad
  * The multi-buttons send button four/five events, and six/seven events for
horizontal scrolling
  * Adjustable finger detection
  * Multifinger taps: two finger for middle button and three finger for right
button events. (Needs hardware support. Not all models implement this
feature.)
  * Run-time configuration using shared memory. This means you can change
parameter settings without restarting the X server (see synclient(1)).
  * It also provides a daemon to disable touchpad while typing at the keyboard
and thus avoid unwanted mouse movements (see syndaemon(1)).
Description-md5: 6f7a84d9a52f4dc44fd0ad7cc265853b
Tag: hardware::input, hardware::laptop, implemented-in::c, role::plugin,
 role::program, use::driver, x11::xserver
Section: x11
Priority: optional
Filename: 
pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics_1.9.1-1_amd64.deb
Size: 219712
MD5sum: 6f95416d63be90a95acf862dc12b8904
SHA256: 36bb385f930b1731a6a39f9aedab474942d779b5c1fda33c5814eec9f5923752



Compare that to the rather sparse description of the replacement:


Package: xserver-xorg-input-libinput
Version: 0.28.2-2
Installed-Size: 138
Maintainer: Debian X Strike Force 
Architecture: amd64
Provides: xorg-driver-input
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7), libinput10 (>= 1.11.1), xorg-input-abi-24, 
xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.18.99.901)
Description-en: X.Org X server -- libinput input driver
 This package provides the driver for input devices using libinput library.
 It can handle keyboards, mice and touchpads, and essentially replaces the
 separate -evdev and -synaptics drivers.
 .
 This package is built from the X.org xf86-input-libinput driver module.
Description-md5: f8bfd1aa5c6b0f14ea81809036429317
Homepage: https://www.x.org
Section: x11
Priority: optional
Filename: 
pool/main/x/xserver-xorg-input-libinput/xserver-xorg-input-libinput_0.28.2-2_amd64.deb
Size: 61472
MD5sum: 1a4f2f8168f4995c98c71a8640e729a0
SHA256: 96ed7234dec3aea8bec57850064ad2258ada2d53cbf3741da1490799b073f69b



Exactly which packages does it replace?  And "essentially"?  Does it
replace them, or not?  If so, then why isn't there any "Replaces" field?

But you can't really expect users to look at xserver-xorg-input-libinput
at all.  Why should they?  There is no pointer to it from the "obsolete"
package.  What kind of deprecation is that? Most users will probably
read the first lines of the verbose xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
description, see "enable advanced features of the Synaptics Touchpad",
and think "YES! I want that!".




Bjørn

Re: Bug#935589: cdimage.debian.org: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package missing in xfce-CD-1 iso

[Julien Cristau]

On Tue, Sep  3, 2019 at 10:32:11 +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:

> But you can't really expect users to look at xserver-xorg-input-libinput
> at all.  Why should they?  There is no pointer to it from the "obsolete"
> package.  What kind of deprecation is that? Most users will probably
> read the first lines of the verbose xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
> description, see "enable advanced features of the Synaptics Touchpad",
> and think "YES! I want that!".
> 
Users shouldn't have to think about it.  It's our job to make our
install process do the right thing in the first place.

Cheers,
Julien

Bug#935589: cdimage.debian.org: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package missing in xfce-CD-1 iso

[Bjørn Mork]

Julien Cristau  writes:

> Users shouldn't have to think about it.  It's our job to make our
> install process do the right thing in the first place.

Well, it doesn't, and most users are aware of that.  DTRT is hard. It's
almost impossible when hardware is part of the equation.  Debian is
good, but will for example fail to install support for 3G/LTE modems if
you happen to select the LXDE task, because lxde recommends

 wicd | network-manager-gnome

Just one example where a user will have to look for packages supporting
their specific hardware after installation.  I'm sure there are plenty
of similar edge cases.  Users expect it and act accordingly. The
existense of an "obsolete" package like xserver-xorg-input-synaptics,
with no indication that it is obsolete, is therefore a problem.

As shown by this completely unnecessary bug and discussion.



Bjørn

Bug#935589: cdimage.debian.org: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package missing in xfce-CD-1 iso

[Sai Karthik]

Oh ! what's the alternative then ?

On September 3, 2019 7:55:29 AM UTC, Julien Cristau  wrote:
>On Mon, Sep  2, 2019 at 23:42:44 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
>> control: reassign -1 task-xfce-desktop
>> 
>> Hi Karthik,
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 04:10:53PM +0530, karthik wrote:
>> >Package: cdimage.debian.org
>> >Severity: normal
>> >
>> >Dear Maintainer,
>> >
>> >*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where
>appropriate ***
>> >
>> >   * What led up to the situation?
>> >After a fresh install of xfce CD testing weekly iso on lenovo x230
>laptop, I have noticed that the touchpad options were missing in mouse
>& touchpad settings
>> >   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
>> > ineffective)?
>> >installed xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package 
>> >   * What was the outcome of this action?
>> >touchpad options were visible back again!
>> >   * What outcome did you expect instead?
>> >same as above
>> >
>> >Please include this package in upcoming iso builds, It is an
>important one.
>> 
>> If it's important that it's available, then a better place for the
>bug
>> would be against the task-xfce-desktop package. That way it will be
>> pulled in automatically via dependencies for the CD build.
>> 
>The synaptics Xorg driver is obsolete and should not be installed by
>default.
>
>Cheers,
>Julien

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