Re: debian-installer test

2003-08-31 Thread Thorsten Sauter

Hi Giuseppe,

* Giuseppe Sacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-31 11:26]:
| 3. we tested the installation on many old machines that had old/dirty
| cdrom devices. On that machines we got read errors that were shown as
| 'integrity check failure on package ...'. We think that it could be
| useful if the installer could check an md5sum/crc of the disc. The
| corrected md5sum/crc might be put on the disc label;
cdrom-checker is the udeb you are looking for. It checks the whole cdrom
against the md5sums, which are stored on the cdrom.
$cdrom/md5sums.txt

| 7. selecting 'partitioner' we get the message 'Failed to partition the
| disc /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc.' just after the selection of
| the disc . At this point there is noway to go on since the user
| interface is blocked. We may only switch to differentent console, but we
| cannot select neighter 'continue' nor 'go back';
[...]
| 10. the partitioner module complains about a missing libslang.so.1
| library while in the /lib there is only libslang.so.1-UTF8.

hmm. looks like the partitioner module can't execute cfdisk. Which
frontend you are using? newt, text, ...?

Please try to partition the disk by hand on the second console (to make
sure fdisk can use the disk). If this works, you can try to modify the
partition script: usr/share/partitioner/{$arch,common} to use only the
fdisk program. This will help you to continuing testing the installer.

Bye
Thorsten

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Saludos desde Madrid

2003-08-31 Thread Veronica
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my problems

2003-08-31 Thread radus
Hello!

I tried to install debian in vmware and i encountered some problems..

First error was when running keyboard config before loading some udebs

I didn't know i was required to do so and i got an error...

When i tried to partition the vmware drive it crashed ..

However i noticed some nice things in it and i think it will be great :)

Radu


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Re: Installation report on two macs

2003-08-31 Thread Thorsten Sauter
* Giuseppe Sacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-31 12:55]:
| trying to solve this problem we found that in build/powerpc/yaboot.conf
| the line 'append="init=/linuxrc"' is missing. This line is required in
| order to properly boot the powerbook.
well, I have the same problem on my ibook some days ago. For me this
looks like a kernelbug, because my self-compiled benh kernel works fine
with the current configuration.
The commited build/boot/powerpc/cdrom-yaboot.conf works on iBooks, I can
test, if the changes you are propose also works. If so, we can simply
include the append paramter.

| Once the kernel boot we found impossible to load any modules. This is
| because the busybox-cvs-udeb.udeb was compiled without
| lsmod/rmmod/modprobe/insmod. We then tried to find the correct source of
| busybox byt this seems to be impossible: the source from unstable are
| older than the version printed during the boot by the udeb downloaded
| from the archive.

imho, busybox-cvs doesn't support lsmod and friends on powerpc archs.
Thats why these binaries are not included in the udeb. Two ways to solv
this problem:
1. fix busybox-cvs :)
2. install the modutils udebs (modutils-basic, modutils-full)

Bye
Thorsten

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want kernel-headers on install CD

2003-08-31 Thread Stephen Gildea
When making a Debian distribution CD image, please include the
kernel-headers package for each kernel-image package on the CD.

I recently installed Debian from a Woody distribution mini-CD on two
Dell Dimensions that had unsupported video and ethernet hardware.  After
the Debian install, I had to also install driver source and compile
modules for these two devices.  Compiling the drivers required installed
kernel-headers.  This was difficult because they were not on the install
CD.  And even more difficult because I couldn't fetch them over the
network until I had installed the missing network driver.

So, it would ease that initial installation in some cases if
kernel-headers were always available along with the kernel image.

 < Stephen

P.S, I hope this is the right list.  It wasn't clear to me whether I
should post here or on debian-cd.

The missing drivers are for the Broadcom BCM4401 integrated ethernet and
for the Intel 845G integrated graphics chipset.  The 845G is supported
in XFree86 4.3.0.


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d-i debcamp: Make sure the local organizer know you are coming

2003-08-31 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

If you are coming to the d-i debcamp in oldenburg, please make sure
your name is listed on
http://oldenburger.linuxtage.de/Oldenburg2003/attendees.php3>.
If not, email joey as described on
http://oldenburger.linuxtage.de/Oldenburg2003/>.


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debian-installer test

2003-08-31 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Hi all,
during the OpenLanParty in Milano, we played a little bit with the new
debian installer. We submit here some comments about our testing.

1. from the udeb list we would like to remove the name of the package
since the label isn't completely readable and probably;

2. on the same screen, we would like to 'tab' from the module list to
the 'continue' button instead of the actual 'go back' button. On the
same screen, if you select some modules and then press go-back, then you
select once again the 'module selection list' then you do not see as
selected the modules selected during the first visit to that screen;

3. we tested the installation on many old machines that had old/dirty
cdrom devices. On that machines we got read errors that were shown as
'integrity check failure on package ...'. We think that it could be
useful if the installer could check an md5sum/crc of the disc. The
corrected md5sum/crc might be put on the disc label;

4. during the static network configuration (choice the domain name, the
DNS, ...) it isn't possible to select the 'go back' button;

5. the menu item 'detect CDROM devices and mount ...' does not detect
our CD on a 'HP Omnibook XT6200'. Calling hw-detect-full we get the
error 'Unknown MATSHITADVD-ROM SR-8175' on the 4th console;

6. selecting the dhcp3 udeb the DHCP network isn't configured. We found
a message on the 4th console: 'execve (/etc/dhcp3/dhcpit-script,..): Not
a directory';

7. selecting 'partitioner' we get the message 'Failed to partition the
disc /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc.' just after the selection of
the disc . At this point there is noway to go on since the user
interface is blocked. We may only switch to differentent console, but we
cannot select neighter 'continue' nor 'go back';

8. on a Acer Aspire 1314LC from item menu 'configure the network via
dhcp' the NIC isn't recognized (a Via Technologies VT6102 rhine-II) so a
message is printed suggesting to go back, while the user interface
permits only to continue. If the module 'ethdetect' is selected on the
first screen then DHCP is run correctly but then it isn't possible to go
back;

9. when on the screen of 'selection language' it isn't possible to 'go
back';

10. the partitioner module complains about a missing libslang.so.1
library while in the /lib there is only libslang.so.1-UTF8.

Giuseppe Sacco
Emanuele Rocca
Fabrizio G. Ficca (OpenLabs cazzarola)
Francesco Donadon


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Installation report on two macs

2003-08-31 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Hi all,
I just tried an installation of the new debian-installer (from CVS) on
two machine

A. powerbook3,5 titanium [EMAIL PROTECTED], 512Mb RAM, 40Gb HD, radeon 9000
B. powermac2.1, iMac, 64Mb RAM

1. I built a debian-installer cd image (cd build; make TYPE=cdrom
cd_image)

2. I rebuilt a cd of sarge using jigdo

3. I mounted the iso image using loop and rebuilt the same image using
mkisofs but specifying as boot image the new cd_image:

mkisofs -r -T --netatalk -hfs -probe
 -map boot/powerpc/hfs.map -part -no-desktop
 -hfs-bless ./tmp/cdrom/cd_image_tree/boot
 -hfs-volid Debian-Installer/PPC
 -o /home/giuseppe/cdiso/cdrom-completo.iso
 ./tmp/cdrom/cd_image_tree /mnt/loop0

When the machine boots using the new CD, yaboot starts and then the
kernel is loaded and the boot suddenly stop. The last lines on the
screen are:

kmod failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k net-pf-1, errno=2
init started: BusyBox v1.00-pre3 (2003:08:25-08:35+000) multi-call binar
kmod failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k net-pf-1, errno=2
ADB keyboard ...
detected ADB ...
input1: ...
input2: ...
kmod failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k net-pf-1, errno=2
ADB mouse at 3, handler set to 4readlink: /proc/self/fd/0: No such file
or directory

trying to solve this problem we found that in build/powerpc/yaboot.conf
the line 'append="init=/linuxrc"' is missing. This line is required in
order to properly boot the powerbook.

Once the kernel boot we found impossible to load any modules. This is
because the busybox-cvs-udeb.udeb was compiled without
lsmod/rmmod/modprobe/insmod. We then tried to find the correct source of
busybox byt this seems to be impossible: the source from unstable are
older than the version printed during the boot by the udeb downloaded
from the archive.

We then tried to get a newer busybox from the original FTP site but we
did not manage to get a working CD, since the generated image was
running the busybox, but there wasn't any output.
In this case, where busybox doesn't start, we found that the /dev was
missing, so adding 'devfs=mount' to the yaboot run command make busybox
start (but crashing...) In this case the problem is probably the kernel
udeb that is missing same option. We also noticed that these options are
included in the i386 syslinux.cfg.

Questions:
1. where are the right sources of busybox?
2. why append="init=/linuxrc" is missing from yaboot.conf? did someone
tried to install d-i on a powerpc before?

Anyway, the list of available keyboards include only amiga keyboard.
This is not so useful having a mac :-) The worst thing is that if you
get to the choice of keyboards, then you cannot go back.


Bye,
Giuseppe Sacco
Fabrizio G. Ficca
Francesco Donadon
Carlo Contavalli


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Re: Installation report on two macs

2003-08-31 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il dom, 2003-08-31 alle 18:35, Thorsten Sauter ha scritto:
> * Giuseppe Sacco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-08-31 12:55]:
> | trying to solve this problem we found that in build/powerpc/yaboot.conf
> | the line 'append="init=/linuxrc"' is missing. This line is required in
> | order to properly boot the powerbook.
> well, I have the same problem on my ibook some days ago. For me this
> looks like a kernelbug, because my self-compiled benh kernel works fine
> with the current configuration.
> The commited build/boot/powerpc/cdrom-yaboot.conf works on iBooks, I can
> test, if the changes you are propose also works. If so, we can simply
> include the append paramter.

First, thanks for your explaination.

Second, we tested on both iMac and powerbook3.4 and 3.5. We thought that
this was a kernel bug (or, more probably) a CONFIG_* missing, but then
even in syslinux.cfg we found that this parameter is passed to the
kernel.

> | Once the kernel boot we found impossible to load any modules. This is
> | because the busybox-cvs-udeb.udeb was compiled without
> | lsmod/rmmod/modprobe/insmod. We then tried to find the correct source of
> | busybox byt this seems to be impossible: the source from unstable are
> | older than the version printed during the boot by the udeb downloaded
> | from the archive.
> 
> imho, busybox-cvs doesn't support lsmod and friends on powerpc archs.
> Thats why these binaries are not included in the udeb. Two ways to solv
> this problem:
> 1. fix busybox-cvs :)
> 2. install the modutils udebs (modutils-basic, modutils-full)

This explain why we got an earlier kernel panic with the busybox
recompiled with modprobe.

We weren't aware of this problem in busybox, but we understood that
modprobe is missing. 

There is an enormous lack of documentation on the installer, we had
really many problems tring to understand how it works and how to modify
it. And the problem that you are pointing -- about modprobe not working
on powerpc -- is not filed as bug. So noone was aware of it.

Bye,
Giuseppe


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Re: debian-installer test

2003-08-31 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Il dom, 2003-08-31 alle 18:27, Thorsten Sauter ha scritto:
> | 7. selecting 'partitioner' we get the message 'Failed to partition the
> | disc /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc.' just after the selection of
> | the disc . At this point there is noway to go on since the user
> | interface is blocked. We may only switch to differentent console, but we
> | cannot select neighter 'continue' nor 'go back';
> [...]
> | 10. the partitioner module complains about a missing libslang.so.1
> | library while in the /lib there is only libslang.so.1-UTF8.
> 
> hmm. looks like the partitioner module can't execute cfdisk. Which
> frontend you are using? newt, text, ...?

the default frontend. We did not have the time/ability to check
different frontends. I suppose that we might change frontend adding a
paramter to the kernel argument line while booting, isn't it?

> Please try to partition the disk by hand on the second console (to make
> sure fdisk can use the disk). If this works, you can try to modify the
> partition script: usr/share/partitioner/{$arch,common} to use only the
> fdisk program. This will help you to continuing testing the installer.

When tring on intel machines, the disk were already partitioned, while
when we had a try at vmware we got a crash at this very point. The
vmware crashed and the host computer did the same -- even if the vwmare
wasn't run by root :-(

Thanks for your reply,
Giuseppe


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Re: patch (Re: i18n of cdebconf)

2003-08-31 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Tomohiro KUBOTA]
> Here is the patch.  It replaces the line-folding (or text-wrapping)
> algorithm for "text", "slang", and "newt" frontends.  Please check
> it.  Or, should I cvs-commit it at first?

I read your patch, and have a few comments.  It was very small.  That
is good.  You should only declare one variable per line, to make it
easier to find changes in the future using CVS.  I would also like to
have the textwrap code as a compile time option for now, and let it
use the new library you uploaded instead of including the code in the
cdebconf source.

I suggest protecting your changes with '#ifdef HAVE_LIBTEXTWRAP', and
adding code in configure.in to detect if the library is present.  This
way, we can easily test it without enabling it in the uploaded
version.  I would like to be able to test it first, and then perhaps
remove the compile time option to make it required.  If you protect
the code like this, and keep the library code out of the cdebconf
source, feel free to commit the change. :)

Also, I want to make sure all parts of the installer use the same
shared libtextwrap, to limit the disk image size.

Regarding the library itself, I am not convinced that this charset
normalization is a good idea:

  Since the return value of nl_langinfo() may differ depending on
  systems (such as "EUC-JP" vs "eucJP"), the encoding names are
  normalized (all-uppercase, eliminate non-alphanumerics).

It is better to find and fix all systems not using a standard charmap
name.  But this will be hidden in the library, so cdebconf do not
really need to worry about it.


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Re: Cannot boot sarge distribution

2003-08-31 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Sven Luther]
> BTW, i tried booting the cdrom initrd with a kernel i usually use,
> which has most of the stuff built-in, and d-i complained loudly
> about all those missing modules.

Yes.  It is annoying.  Is there any way for hw-detect to find out if
the module is compiled into the kernel, or to find out that the HW in
question already is detected?

This is reported as bug #200467, "Hardware detection should not fail
when all required modules are included in kernel", and I have no idea
how to solve it properly.


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creating installer CDs

2003-08-31 Thread radus
Hi!

I was wondering if someone could give a link to an automatic script to build 
debian installer isos from the cvs.

I want to try to build one myself however i can't get it to work...
If someone could post one such script or a link to a detailed HOWTO 
i would be gratefull

Thanks


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Re: debian-installer test

2003-08-31 Thread Emanuele Rocca
>> Please try to partition the disk by hand on the second console (to
>> make sure fdisk can use the disk). 
I'll try it asap.
But the partitioner complains about the lack of libslang.so.1; entering
in a console and just symlinking to libslang.so.1-UTF8 solves the
problem.

The error message is precisely:

cfdisk: error while loading shared libraries: libslang.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
di-utils-partitioner's postinst exited with status 256

> When tring on intel machines, the disk were already partitioned, while
> when we had a try at vmware we got a crash at this very point. The
> vmware crashed and the host computer did the same -- even if the vwmare
> wasn't run by root :-(
Yes, trying the installer with vmware crashes not only the virtual
machine but also the whole system, but only using physically the cdrom.
(accessing directly to /dev/cdrom).

Using an iso image of the cd mounted as a cdrom in vmware makes possible
to go on with the installer without hanging the machine.

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