Re: vtk / m68k

2013-12-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Mathieu Malaterre dixit:

>  In case you did not notice vtk FTBFS on m68k:
>
>http://buildd.debian-ports.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=vtk&arch=m68k&ver=5.8.0-14.1&stamp=1385404238

Mh, I didn’t notice myself as it wasn’t my buildd.

Now, doesn’t GCC normally retry on segfault and tell us
whether it’s reproducible or not? Also, it doesn’t say
in which function… this is a new one.

I note that vtk has never built before on m68k according
to buildd.d-ports.org (after the move to it). Did it ever
build when in the main archive?

I could probably build it manually, just to see.

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Re: vtk / m68k

2013-12-06 Thread Ingo Jürgensmann

On 2013-12-06 10:05, Thorsten Glaser wrote:

 In case you did not notice vtk FTBFS on m68k:
http://buildd.debian-ports.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=vtk&arch=m68k&ver=5.8.0-14.1&stamp=1385404238


We should increase the timeout on all buildds, I think...


I note that vtk has never built before on m68k according
to buildd.d-ports.org (after the move to it). Did it ever
build when in the main archive?


When did we move to debian-ports.org?

   id   | packagename |   version|   dist   | arch |   begin 
   |  endtime   |  buildd  |  state

+-+--+--+--+++--+--
 149850 | vtk | 5.0.4-1.1| unstable | m68k | 2008-10-10 
13:19:04.454418 | 2008-10-12 07:54:05.206218 | poseidon | 
maybe-successful
 127716 | vtk | 5.0.4-1+b1   | unstable | m68k | 2008-06-07 
00:09:09.513509 | 2008-06-07 00:24:09.506838 | thing2   | 
maybe-successful
 126355 | vtk | 5.0.4-1+b1   | unstable | m68k | 2008-05-30 
18:21:14.190207 | 2008-06-01 19:15:09.180729 | zeus | 
maybe-successful
 113542 | vtk | 5.0.4-1  | unstable | m68k | 2008-03-27 
07:13:13.963362 | 2008-03-31 14:14:08.726147 | vault13  | 
maybe-successful
 113321 | vtk | 5.0.3-1.1| unstable | m68k | 2008-03-26 
02:54:08.00619  | 2008-03-27 07:14:14.075255 | vivaldi  | 
maybe-successful
 112636 | vtk | 5.0.3-1.1| unstable | m68k | 2008-03-22 
10:29:33.193592 | 2008-03-26 02:49:06.508348 | vivaldi  | 
maybe-successful
  60180 | vtk | 5.0.2.dfsg-1 | unstable | m68k | 2007-03-29 
04:14:00.224401 | 2007-04-02 00:53:55.616146 | vivaldi  | 
maybe-successful
  71670 | vtk | 5.0.3-1  | unstable | m68k | 2007-06-27 
16:28:35.528248 | 2007-07-01 00:29:22.518169 | vault13  | 
maybe-successful
  71622 | vtk | 5.0.3-1  | unstable | m68k | 2007-06-27 
04:13:30.825349 | 2007-06-27 04:18:30.29816  | vivaldi  | 
maybe-successful
  43171 | vtk | 5.0.2-4  | unstable | m68k | 2006-11-14 
18:39:06.331159 | 2006-11-15 17:59:16.955589 | arrakis  | 
maybe-successful
  42922 | vtk | 5.0.2-2  | unstable | m68k | 2006-11-13 
06:54:26.245727 | 2006-11-13 07:06:54.867305 | kiivi| 
maybe-successful
  42001 | vtk | 5.0.1-4  | unstable | m68k | 2006-11-01 
05:54:07.677343 | 2006-11-05 01:44:18.509613 | vivaldi  | 
maybe-successful
  39196 | vtk | 5.0.1-4  | unstable | m68k | 2006-09-30 
03:29:07.446155 | 2006-10-01 02:44:06.133365 | vivaldi  | 
maybe-successful
  38437 | vtk | 5.0.1-4  | unstable | m68k | 2006-09-23 
00:10:24.643507 | 2006-09-23 00:39:07.269186 | tanda| 
maybe-successful
  36000 | vtk | 5.0.1-1  | unstable | m68k | 2006-08-24 
21:17:26.96882  | 2006-08-28 12:18:18.123903 | vault13  | 
maybe-successful
   7235 | vtk | 4.4.2-10 | unstable | m68k | 2006-01-18 
08:58:52.254056 | 2006-01-18 09:53:31.906897 | kiivi| 
maybe-successful
   6998 | vtk | 4.4.2-9  | unstable | m68k | 2006-01-16 
20:13:33.165812 | 2006-01-16 21:13:34.449417 | vault13  | 
maybe-successful
 162051 | vtk | 5.2.1-1  | unstable | m68k | 2009-03-06 
23:49:03.622448 | 2009-03-09 01:03:55.869712 | zlin2| 
maybe-successful
 163598 | vtk | 5.2.1-2  | unstable | m68k | 2009-03-23 
15:03:40.342003 | 2009-03-23 15:08:34.563331 | zlin2| 
maybe-successful
 197068 | vtk | 5.8.0-14.1   | unstable | m68k | 2013-11-18 
23:58:15.79325  | 2013-11-25 19:31:06.082174 | kullervo | 
maybe-successful

(20 rows)


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dpkg RAM use (was Re: Bits from the Release Team (Jessie freeze info))

2013-12-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Dixi quod…

> exactly resource-saving. (Even running apt/dpkg isn’t due to the
> sheer size of the archive, though Guillem kindly reduced memory
> usage in the upcoming dpkg upload.)

Indeed. Running dpkg and APT together should now be possible in
40 MiB or less of total RAM instead of 128 MiB from before. (Less
if you use swap, ofc.)

This is a totally “random sample”, nothing tested. (Both of them.)
But I like it, it’s definitely noticeable.

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Re: vtk / m68k

2013-12-06 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 10:23:00AM +0100, Ingo J?rgensmann wrote:
> On 2013-12-06 10:05, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> >> In case you did not notice vtk FTBFS on m68k:
> >>http://buildd.debian-ports.org/status/fetch.php?pkg=vtk&arch=m68k&ver=5.8.0-14.1&stamp=1385404238
> 
> We should increase the timeout on all buildds, I think...

kullervo just failed to build kate... while creating the kate-dbg package.
All the other debs have already been created. Three days wasted, or should I
upload the debs without the dbg package?

Can somebody remind me how to increase the timeout on a per package base? 
Or how to tell the build which packages I do not want him to build?

Christian


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Re: vtk / m68k

2013-12-06 Thread Ingo Jürgensmann

On 2013-12-06 10:59, Christian T. Steigies wrote:

We should increase the timeout on all buildds, I think...
kullervo just failed to build kate... while creating the kate-dbg 
package.
All the other debs have already been created. Three days wasted, or 
should I

upload the debs without the dbg package?


I had already several of those wasted packages on Spice. There I thought 
it was due to the low memory and all the swapping that is involved when 
building the *.deb. Funny enough I think all those failed at the 
*-dbg.deb as well. Can this be caused by xz as compression tool?


Can somebody remind me how to increase the timeout on a per package 
base?

Or how to tell the build which packages I do not want him to build?


Back then we used a unified list that were downloaded from Stephens 
webspace and used by some @includes in the config. I don't know whether 
this @include still works, but when it does we should use that approach 
again instead of maintaining on each buildd such a list.


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Re: vtk / m68k

2013-12-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ingo Jürgensmann dixit:

> On 2013-12-06 10:59, Christian T. Steigies wrote:
>>> We should increase the timeout on all buildds, I think...

Not that vtk failed due to the timeout, but a segfault.

>> kullervo just failed to build kate... while creating the kate-dbg package.
>> All the other debs have already been created. Three days wasted, or should I
>> upload the debs without the dbg package?

Hm, not really.

Anyway, I increased my timeout from 600 to 1800, too.
The slower ones should maybe use even more.

> *.deb. Funny enough I think all those failed at the *-dbg.deb as well. Can 
> this
> be caused by xz as compression tool?

xz needs just under 186 MiB of RAM for compressing at the default level
but quite some CPU of course. That’s not an indication it’s bad, I think
even m68k can work with xz.

>> Can somebody remind me how to increase the timeout on a per package base?

Meh, just crank it globally.

>> Or how to tell the build which packages I do not want him to build?
>
> Back then we used a unified list that were downloaded from Stephens webspace
> and used by some @includes in the config. I don't know whether this @include
> still works, but when it does we should use that approach again instead of
> maintaining on each buildd such a list.

That would certainly be welcome. I’m putting packages into Not-For-Us
but then _no_ buildd will pick them up; we have cases where packages
can only reasonably be built on ARAnyM (huge, etc.) or cannot be built
on ARAnyM at all (that thing with L2 caches recently), so we can still
use per-buildd overrides then.

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Re: vtk / m68k

2013-12-06 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:13:56AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> 
> >> Can somebody remind me how to increase the timeout on a per package base?
> 
> Meh, just crank it globally.

Ok, I set it to 1800 now. But maybe somebody can still tell me how to do it
per package nowadays?
 
> >> Or how to tell the build which packages I do not want him to build?

Or this?

> > Back then we used a unified list that were downloaded from Stephens webspace
> > and used by some @includes in the config. I don't know whether this @include
> > still works, but when it does we should use that approach again instead of
> > maintaining on each buildd such a list.
> 
> That would certainly be welcome. I???m putting packages into Not-For-Us
> but then _no_ buildd will pick them up; we have cases where packages
> can only reasonably be built on ARAnyM (huge, etc.) or cannot be built
> on ARAnyM at all (that thing with L2 caches recently), so we can still
> use per-buildd overrides then.

I suggest to put kate into not-for-us, and all other (huge) packages that
fail due to timeout. If the contents of that list (too-big-for-us) is
available, maybe you can pick them on aranym, or all buildds can pick them
when all other packages have been built. Or maybe only buildds with >=512MB
RAM pick them (the Falcons and aranyms). Which brings me back to my
question, how to I exclude packages on one buildd nowadays?

Christian


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Re: vtk / m68k

2013-12-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Christian T. Steigies dixit:

>I suggest to put kate into not-for-us, and all other (huge) packages that
>fail due to timeout.

kate and similar don’t fail on ara5 due to timeout.

>maybe you can pick them on aranym

No, Not-For-Us prevents wanna-build from acting on them.
Please use only an exclusion list for things your buildd
cannot build on your buildd, if others can do that. I’m
not going to build them all manually every time.

>question, how to I exclude packages on one buildd nowadays?

There’s something in one of ~buildd/.{sbuild,buildd}rc IIRC.

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