Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf14 Dates And Upcoming Decisions
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 08:58:53AM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > I propose Saturday 10/12 (THIS SATURDAY) at 12pm (Noon) PDT, which would be > 7pm > (19:00) UTC, on the DebConf team IRC channel. I will be out of town, but will attempt to join IRC. :) -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] IRC meeting schedule: doodle poll [mai...@doodle.com: Doodle: Link for poll "DebConf 14 IRC meetings"]
On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 04:50:14PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > I've pre-filtered the set of possible meeting times (out of the set of all > possible meeting times) to those that Patty and I can conceivably make it > to. So you only have 40 possible times to choose from instead of 180. > You're welcome. ;) The times are of course weighted to non-sleeping hours > in Pacific Time. We've tried to find some options that are friendlier to > our European friends, sometimes under duress, so hopefully one of these > options will work out for folks. > [...] > http://doodle.com/2y3ey34akmxnm26z Just to confirm, the times in the Doodle are UTC? -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] DebConf14 network construction
Hi, I'm helping organize the network infrastructure for DebConf14. I'll be the primary point of contact between our hosts (PSU) and Debian. However, I don't know who on the Debian side I should be working with. Most importantly, I'd like to find out: - who will be coming early to set up - when "early" is - what physical gear we have available - who will be running network infrastructure (e.g. dhcp, dns, mirrors, etc) - who will be running video We're likely going to have ethernet ports for our use, but we'll probably be on our own for the conference-area wifi itself, network switches, etc. I've been told we should have an unfiltered public v4 /16 for our use, but I'm still getting the specific details. Thanks! -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] IRC meeting minutes
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[Debconf-team] registration metadata
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Re: [Debconf-team] Meeting Tonight!
I'll be there! On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 09:22:20AM -0700, Patty Langasek wrote: > Good morning, everyone! > > A quick (very late) reminder that we have our local face-to-face team > meeting tonight at PSU, room 130 FAB at 6:30. I meant to send out the > reminder last week, but apparently snoozing my reminders for these send-outs > results in the same behavior as snoozing my alarm for getting ready for > work. (Who would have realized such a strong correlation?) > > Anyway! Tonight! 6:30pm! PSU! FAB 130! I'll confirm up the agenda after my > exam today, but it will probably be a work session on Summit > hacking/confirming deadlines/working on fleshing out our wiki. > > Cheers, > Patty > -- > -- > > Patty Langasek > harmo...@dodds.net > > -- > > At times, you may end up far away from home; you may not be > sure of where you belong, anymore. But home is always > there... because home is not a place. It's wherever your > passion takes you. > --- J. Michael Straczynski > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debconf14-team-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140424162220.ga25...@becquer.dodds.net -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Code of Conduct
On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 11:18:41PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Steve Langasek [2014-05-02 19:44 +0200]: > > I don't really have a strong opinion on whether this should be > > part of a CoC. If we accept that the dual purpose of the CoC is > > to make people feel welcome who would otherwise fear being > > subjected to abuse and to remind people to be on their best > > behavior, does a "no swears" policy contribute to this goal? I'm > > not sure that it does, but I'm also not sure it's problematic to > > include. > > cf. broken windows theory. Right -- I think it's useful to have in the CoC. It may also serve as a reminder that words carry very different cultural weight, depending on where your audience is from. Being mindful of this is the right thing to do, so keep it clean by design, but point out and forgive mistakes. The point is to keep things comfortable for everyone. If that means you have to be more creative about describing how very passionately you're feeling about something, make the effort. :) -Kees -- Kees Cook@outflux.net ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Getting the network running
Hi, I'm still trying to get PSU nailed down as far as what they can provide (though I have a good idea based on other events and people). It will be a class B IPv4 network to wired ports in our conference rooms. This means we need to supply everything else (WAPs, switches, etc). I figure we'll need at least 3 WAPs in the conference area itself, and similarly one for each of the hack rooms. What kind of switch density is needed in the hack rooms? Besides zobel, who can help me get things configured? Does anyone have leads on where to get equipment? -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Getting the network running
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 04:18:24PM -0700, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > If hardware is coming from budget I would suggest going to Frys in > Willsonville since they have everything we could need and price match. Yeah, Fry's may work -- we'll see what's missing once we've got the requirements finished. > I can help configure and deploy gear. Excellent! I've added you here, feel free to update/improve: https://wiki.debconf.org/action/edit/DebConf14/Teams -Kees > > On May 29, 2014 1:59 PM, "Kees Cook" wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm still trying to get PSU nailed down as far as what they can provide > > (though I have a good idea based on other events and people). It will be a > > class B IPv4 network to wired ports in our conference rooms. > > > > This means we need to supply everything else (WAPs, switches, etc). I > > figure we'll need at least 3 WAPs in the conference area itself, and > > similarly one for each of the hack rooms. What kind of switch density is > > needed in the hack rooms? > > > > Besides zobel, who can help me get things configured? > > > > Does anyone have leads on where to get equipment? > > > > -Kees > > > > -- > > Kees Cook@debian.org > > ___ > > Debconf-team mailing list > > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Getting the network running
Hi Gerald, On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 04:23:19PM -0700, Gerald Turner wrote: > Kees Cook writes: > > Hi, > > > > I'm still trying to get PSU nailed down as far as what they can > > provide (though I have a good idea based on other events and > > people). It will be a class B IPv4 network to wired ports in our > > conference rooms. > > > > This means we need to supply everything else (WAPs, switches, etc). I > > figure we'll need at least 3 WAPs in the conference area itself, and > > similarly one for each of the hack rooms. What kind of switch density > > is needed in the hack rooms? > > > > Besides zobel, who can help me get things configured? > > > > Does anyone have leads on where to get equipment? > > Hi Kees, > > I have friend that's offering to loan a bunch of gear left over from a > warehouse tear-down that his work performed last year. The equipment > was originally installed in 2009, so probably no fancy 802.11n/HT. > > * Several Motorola WS5100 controllers. > * Couple dozen (or more) AP-300 access points. > * Bunch of Cisco Catalyst 2960s and some 3560s (non-GigE) but they all >have at least two 1gbps ports. > > The gear is in Tualatin, perhaps I could go pick up a controller and an > AP and bring it to Lucky Labs next Tuesday so we can observe whether > it's too enterprisey. OMG, this would all be amazing!! Yes, get whatever you can. :) -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Getting the network running
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 09:37:25PM -0700, tony mancill wrote: > On 05/29/2014 04:23 PM, Gerald Turner wrote: > > Kees Cook writes: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm still trying to get PSU nailed down as far as what they can > >> provide (though I have a good idea based on other events and > >> people). It will be a class B IPv4 network to wired ports in our > >> conference rooms. > >> > >> This means we need to supply everything else (WAPs, switches, etc). I > >> figure we'll need at least 3 WAPs in the conference area itself, and > >> similarly one for each of the hack rooms. What kind of switch density > >> is needed in the hack rooms? > >> > >> Besides zobel, who can help me get things configured? > >> > >> Does anyone have leads on where to get equipment? > > > > Hi Kees, > > > > I have friend that's offering to loan a bunch of gear left over from a > > warehouse tear-down that his work performed last year. The equipment > > was originally installed in 2009, so probably no fancy 802.11n/HT. > > > > * Several Motorola WS5100 controllers. > > * Couple dozen (or more) AP-300 access points. > > * Bunch of Cisco Catalyst 2960s and some 3560s (non-GigE) but they all > >have at least two 1gbps ports. > > > > The gear is in Tualatin, perhaps I could go pick up a controller and an > > AP and bring it to Lucky Labs next Tuesday so we can observe whether > > it's too enterprisey. > > Hi Kees, > > On the other end of the spectrum... I have some misc. consumer gear I > can bring if it helps. At least a couple 4-port wi-fi ap/routers (one > b/g, the other b/g/n; I think they both run dd-wrt or similar) and an > 8-port GigE switch. > > I'll set them aside in case we need them for something ad-hoc. > tony Great! Yes, I know the 8-port gigE switch will be used. Depending on the other APs, we may need the consumer gear too. Thanks! -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Getting the network running
On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 06:37:43AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > Kees Cook writes: > > > Hi, > > > > I'm still trying to get PSU nailed down as far as what they can provide > > (though I have a good idea based on other events and people). It will be a > > class B IPv4 network to wired ports in our conference rooms. > > > > This means we need to supply everything else (WAPs, switches, etc). I > > figure we'll need at least 3 WAPs in the conference area itself, and > > similarly one for each of the hack rooms. What kind of switch density is > > needed in the hack rooms? > > When you say "similarly", do you mean 3 each per hacklab, or just one? > (we've generally used more than one per room if we have the chance, but > that depends on the number of people you're expecting in each room, and > how close the rooms are together etc. -- none of which I know). One is probably not enough -- I was being optimistic. If you've used 2 before, that should be our minimum. > > Besides zobel, who can help me get things configured? > > I've not yet got as far as booking flights, but assuming that I'm > coming, I'll be turning up early and may have some time between doing > video-setup. Great! I'll add you to the list. :) > Having said that, it's better if you have people that are dedicated to > the task and therefore have an intimate understanding of the way things > are set up this time round, so they can make informed decisions without > needing to ask anyone else, and for past experience that tends not to be > me, because I too often wander off and do video stuff. > > I'm certainly happy to help with things like running cables and the like > though, when I have time. Sounds good. :) -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Getting the network running
On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 04:23:19PM -0700, Gerald Turner wrote: > Hi Kees, > > I have friend that's offering to loan a bunch of gear left over from a > warehouse tear-down that his work performed last year. The equipment > was originally installed in 2009, so probably no fancy 802.11n/HT. > > * Several Motorola WS5100 controllers. > * Couple dozen (or more) AP-300 access points. > * Bunch of Cisco Catalyst 2960s and some 3560s (non-GigE) but they all >have at least two 1gbps ports. > > The gear is in Tualatin, perhaps I could go pick up a controller and an > AP and bring it to Lucky Labs next Tuesday so we can observe whether > it's too enterprisey. It looks like there's not *wrt available for these, but if they all work well with their stock firmware, we should be fine. I've put an initial plan for what hardware we need here: https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf14/Networking So far, it's 10 switches, 7 APs, and a server. :) I'm not sure how many feet of cat6 we'll need for the video team, but it shouldn't be TOO bad -- the rooms are all across the hall from the "data center". -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Getting the network running
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 08:07:55PM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > > If I make it to Portland I can certainly come a few days earlier and > > help with network setup if needed. I'm not sure yet if I can make it at > > all though. > > Same. For reference, I did most of the actual AP deployment for DC13. > I have ten left thumbs when it comes to crimping, but my dayjob is > taking care of large networks, so.. Ah, excellent! Was there anything in particular you noted that we should make sure to do? What kind of channel and coverage overlaps did you have? Thanks! -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Getting the network running
Hi Gaudenz, On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 06:20:28PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > I've been involved in the network setup of DC12 and more or less > followed what has been done for DC13, though I was not the one actually > doing most of the stuff there. > > Kees Cook writes: > > > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 06:37:43AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > >> Kees Cook writes: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I'm still trying to get PSU nailed down as far as what they can provide > >> > (though I have a good idea based on other events and people). It will be > >> > a > >> > class B IPv4 network to wired ports in our conference rooms. > >> > > >> > This means we need to supply everything else (WAPs, switches, etc). I > >> > figure we'll need at least 3 WAPs in the conference area itself, and > >> > similarly one for each of the hack rooms. What kind of switch density is > >> > needed in the hack rooms? > >> > >> When you say "similarly", do you mean 3 each per hacklab, or just one? > >> (we've generally used more than one per room if we have the chance, but > >> that depends on the number of people you're expecting in each room, and > >> how close the rooms are together etc. -- none of which I know). > > > > One is probably not enough -- I was being optimistic. If you've used 2 > > before, that should be our minimum. > > You can see the list of AP used at DC12 here: > https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf12/Wireless > > We had 3 APs in the bigger hacklab, 2 in the smaller one, 3 in the > smaller talk room and 4 in the big auditorium. All the network was on > the same ethernet segment. We initially had some doubt if that would be > a good idea (because of broadcast traffic, ie ARP), but it was not a > problem. We used VLANs to separate the network for the participants from > the one for the Video Team. So that there is a smaller chance that any > rogue device can bring down the Video Team network. Thanks! These are great details. Since the Video Team has a GigE requirement, we'll have to run physically separate cable for them. The "common" network in the walls is all 100Mb. > The videoteam had their own devices with the wirless turned off. These > were also managed by the network team and used to "untag" the VLANs. > > All devices were flashed with OpenWRT. This is quite practical for two > reasons (beside the fact that its Free Software ;-)): > - It's easier to deploy identical configuraitons as you can copy around > configuration files and don't have to click through a web interface. > - You can configure different VLANs and trunk ports on the built in > Switch of the APs. Most consumer grade APs are not VLAN capable. Yeah, my plan was for OpenWRT too. However, we'll defer to what's possible with our equipment. :) > At the central switch I would advise to have a Switch which can detect > network loops and shut down ports if a loop is detected. This saved us > in one occasion. It's really easy to create a loop if there is a mess of > cables on a table. Yay for spanning tree! > >> > Besides zobel, who can help me get things configured? > >> > >> I've not yet got as far as booking flights, but assuming that I'm > >> coming, I'll be turning up early and may have some time between doing > >> video-setup. > > > > Great! I'll add you to the list. :) > > If I make it to Portland I can certainly come a few days earlier and > help with network setup if needed. I'm not sure yet if I can make it at > all though. Sounds good. Thanks! -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Getting the network running
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 01:39:33PM -0500, Carl Karsten wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > > > Thanks! These are great details. Since the Video Team has a GigE > > requirement, we'll have to run physically separate cable for them. The > > "common" network in the walls is all 100Mb. > > > > Even if a venue has gig in the walls, I have given up on it being > reliable. It is too easy for it to have problems during a talk, and that > drops the quality of the video and causes the video team to freak out. > solution to make sure that never happens: run a few 100' of cable. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. The good news is all the rooms are right next to each other and the data center. :) -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] PSU Network Requirements
Hi, I talked on the phone today with the head of the PSU network. I can't say I have good news at all. They don't want us setting up our own wifi network because it will collide with theirs. The /16 they'd mentioned is for their entire campus, not just for our conference. Their guest wifi network is a captive portal that needs email registration on a per-MAC per-day basis. All externally-initiated traffic is blocked. Their wifi and wired networks are separate segments. What they can do: - light up 1 port per conf room with access to their wired network - disable port security for our rooms so we can add our own switches - add hardcoded MACs to the wifi guest ACL that avoids the captive portal - support thousands of people on their wifi network Non-negotiable items: - they will not allow us to set up unauthenticated bridged wifi to their wired network since this exposes campus services to the outside world. - they will not turn off the bulk inbound firewalling for their network. Negotiable: - if we bring an ISP in, they'll route it to our conf rooms, and they'll help us set up our own wifi gear to interfere as little as possible with their existing wifi network. But they'd rather not. In my prior attempts to gather networking requirements, I've only heard about "past conference did XYZ", rather than understanding what specific services need to be supported by the DebConf network infrastructure. The only hard requirement I've heard so far is that a single IP needs unfiltered inbound connections for providing the video streaming. Is this accurate? Does the video team need more than this? Do we _need_ to not have a captive portal on the wifi? If so, why? Do we _need_ to have arbitrary inbound access? If so, why? Do we _need_ wired switches in all the rooms? If so, why? (I suspect I can answer this one, but I want to hear other voices.) Do we expect to host an archive mirror or other services somewhere on the wired network? If so, why? If we bring in an ISP, it's going to get messy and costly. I would really like to avoid this, but it seems to be our only fallback if we can't live peacefully on their existing infrastructure. IIUC, they peer with at least with Integra. Possibly ComCast. I'm getting an up to date list shortly. -Kees -- Kees Cook@outflux.net ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] PSU Network Requirements
On Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 08:34:28AM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote: > Can they route prefixes? > > Getting temporary PI would be an option, but I don't know how to get those > with ARIN. I assume, but I'd let them and the external ISP work it out. I hope to avoid this entirely, though. :) > Can they drop an essid on a distinct vlan from their Wi-Fi infra? That seemed to be a "no"; it'd be too much work. > Could we/they add APs to their controller if we need more coverage? I will about this along with specifics of the density testing, etc. I want to know where the APs we'll be dealing with actually are. > Same vlan could be used for wired. Yeah, I want specifics on their VLAN -- I doubt they use a massive DHCP network for a /16. :) -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] proposed changes to the venue reservations at SMSU
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:50:46PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi team, > > Kees and I had another meeting at PSU today to dig into the nitty-gritty of > the conference setup. One of the points that was raised is that, since the > price of the space we are using for the plenaries went up between our > original quote and the final contract, it's now the same price as the main > ballroom; so there's a suggestion to use the main ballroom instead, which > would accommodate more people (600 people max, instead of 172 max). > > Currently, our reservation looks like this: > > Aug 21 (setup day 1): > server room > talk rooms 1 & 2 > hack lab 1 > Aug 22 (setup day 2 / arrival day): > server room > talk rooms 1, 2, 3 > hack lab 1 > Aug 23-31 (DebConf): > server room > talk rooms 1, 2, 3 > hack labs 1 & 2 > > The general idea here was to ramp up the rooms a few at a time during the > setup, rather than paying the rental for the whole set of rooms from the > beginning when we wouldn't be completely set up until the 23rd anyway. > However, if we decide to use the ballroom for the plenaries, then it doesn't > make as much sense to phase in the setup of the talk rooms at the same time > - and it definitely increases our overall costs for the rental. > > So I propose the following modified room rentals: > > Aug 21 (setup day 1): > server room > hack lab 1 > Aug 22 (setup day 2 / arrival day): > server room > plenary room (4 hours in the afternoon/evening only) > hack lab 1 > Aug 23 (opening ceremony): > server room > plenary room > talk rooms 1, 2, 3 (4 hours in the afternoon/evening only) > hack labs 1 & 2 For video team network, the biggest problem is the distance between server room and plenary room. (We have to run cable for this, or move equipment from the server room to the plenary room.) > Aug 24-30: > server room > talk rooms 1, 2, 3 > hack labs 1 & 2 > Aug 31 (closing ceremony): > server room > plenary room > hack labs 1 & 2 > > Is this realistic for getting AV equipment and network drops moved between > the rooms? I know that we prefer not to have to move equipment between > rooms at all; in this case, given that the choice is between moving > equipment between rooms, or moving equipment around when repartitioning a > single room, I'm not sure this makes a difference. In fact, in some ways > this seems better since it's then possible to be setting up two of the talk > rooms while the opening plenaries are happening - whereas otherwise they > couldn't be set up at all until the end of plenaries. > > Carl on IRC seemed to think this was ok, but we would need to be sure we had > the manpower to make this happen. > > And it appears that with this approach our total rental charges would > actually come down by $220 for the week. > > The only disadvantages I see are that it gives us one less day for burn-in > testing of the talk room setup; and it requires tearing down the talk rooms > the evening of August 30 and setting back up in the plenary room the morning > of August 31. On balance, this looks ok to me, but I also have no video > team experience. > > One way or the other, I need to get back to PSU with concrete plans for the > room setups on Monday, so please send any comments on this proposal by > Sunday. -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] confirmation of room changes; details on talk room capacities
On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 02:19:37PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > - If we move one of the talk rooms downstairs, can we still wire it up? >(Kees) I don't have a way currently to get GigE cable between floors. I'm trying to schedule a time to talk with Tamarack, and have added this to the agenda. (In a worst-case, perhaps we can throw a cable over the balcony?) -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] confirmation of room changes; details on talk room capacities
On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 07:37:35PM -0400, Carl Karsten wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 02:19:37PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > - If we move one of the talk rooms downstairs, can we still wire it up? > > >(Kees) > > > > I don't have a way currently to get GigE cable between floors. I'm trying > > to schedule a time to talk with Tamarack, and have added this to the > > agenda. > > > > > Not a show stopper regarding video, > > each room needs 2mb to the Net for the live stream > each room needs 30mb from talk room to NOC file server to keep the raw > files nice and save and available, but a simple usb2 drive can sneaker-net > the data around if needed. Okay, perfect. So we have some flexibility, even if sub-optimal, here. -Kees -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Budget woes
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 08:33:30PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > So the question I have for the team is: are there other things we should be > spending money on to make this a good conference, that we have shied away > from due to money concerns? > > I can suggest two possibilities. > > - Water bottles. Sturdy, reusable aluminum water bottles - branded with >the Debian logo, of course! - would be a nice perk to send people home >with, that would be useful during the conference too. (And they would >definitely come in handy for people on the day trip.) They are also >something that we could order extra of - I'm *sure* that people would be >interested in buying extras. I like this idea quite a bit. It would pair nicely with my Debian umbrella. > - Beverage service. We can always let people fill their water bottles at >the drinking fountains, and there are beverages available for purchase >down on the first floor. If we want to provide anything more than that >to our attendees, it has to be contracted with the authorized caterer >(Aramark). We have a quote for this below. It's basically a complete >rip-off for anything beyond water, but those are the rules we have to >play by if we want something like this. Depending on how they count "per >person" for coffee and tea, this could be as much as $600/day. So >personally, I think if we do anything here it should only be water; and >if it's only water I'm not sure it adds value over just buying reusable >water bottles for everyone. I've always put in-room water to good use at other conferences. I'd be a fan of that. The food items does seem like a lot of money especially since not everyone would really be in to it. -Kees > > > Should we pursue either of these options? Are there any other nice-to-haves > that we should consider adding? > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Hudspeth, Lisa > Date: Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 7:49 AM > Subject: RE: Debconf > To: Mark Brinkmann > > > > > Mark, > > We offer a bulk water service which includes 1- 3 gallon container of water > that would be refreshed 2 times during the day according to their breaks. > It is $25 for the 1- 3 gallon container. Depending on the number of people > attending the conference they can add to the number of containers they want > for an additional $25 for each one. > > Coffee and Tea Service would be $2.00 per person. (10 person minimum) > > The Fresh Garden Crudites served with Ranch Hummus and grilled pita > triangles is $3.00 per person.(10 person minimum) > > Assorted Cookies is $16 for 1 dozen. > > Assorted cookies and brownies is $2.00 per person.(10 person minimum) > > Let me know if you would like for me to speak with them directly. > > Also, if they are an outside group there is a gratuity of 18% added onto > the food and beverage. > > Lisa > > > > > - End forwarded message - > > Thanks, > -- > Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS > Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. > Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ > slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org > ___ > Debconf-team mailing list > Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Kees Cook@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team