Re: [Debconf-team] Things to look at in BL [pre-debcamp todo list]
Velimir Iveljic dijo [Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 05:38:51PM +0200]: > > The hotel is expecting precise numbers for each day in advance. > > Before we go any further with planing this, the hotel said that all > > the meals for the people in Bosna will have to be payed since they are > > included in the reduced price of the room. > > We can still save some money by making sure we know exactly how many > > people from other hotels will eat each day. > >(...) > > I just had another talk with the hotel management and was able to > agree with them to let us give them, exact number of meals for every > day no mater if people are staying at Bosna or not. > So basically we need to tell them in one advance how many people will > eat the next day. > > The meals cost 15€ per day (that's 7.5€ for lunch and 7.5€ for dinner). Umh... I understand they want to prepare the closest possible amount of food. But given (right?) we are eating in a buffet style, getting the exact numbers is not only impossible but will also result in no real difference. I'd like them to agree we cannot give a maybe better than 10% (about 20 people) error margin. Just as we cannot say that most people will eat only one course or stand up to get their food three times. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] change of video licence
Hi, in previous years we released the videos under the 'DebConf video licence' which is available here: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/LICENCE' Then we got a request to relicence the video from Eben Moglens talk at DebConf10 about the freedom box under CC-BY-SA (see http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20110317.185848.a8b8916c.en.html and previous mails to this thread) and we did so. Judith suggested to use a dual licence for our videos in future: http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20110419.231451.a95936fb.en.html which seems like a useful thing to me. What do you think? cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Things to look at in BL [pre-debcamp todo list]
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Velimir Iveljic dijo [Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 05:38:51PM +0200]: >> > The hotel is expecting precise numbers for each day in advance. >> > Before we go any further with planing this, the hotel said that all >> > the meals for the people in Bosna will have to be payed since they are >> > included in the reduced price of the room. >> > We can still save some money by making sure we know exactly how many >> > people from other hotels will eat each day. >> >(...) >> >> I just had another talk with the hotel management and was able to >> agree with them to let us give them, exact number of meals for every >> day no mater if people are staying at Bosna or not. >> So basically we need to tell them in one advance how many people will >> eat the next day. >> >> The meals cost 15€ per day (that's 7.5€ for lunch and 7.5€ for dinner). > > Umh... I understand they want to prepare the closest possible amount > of food. But given (right?) we are eating in a buffet style, getting > the exact numbers is not only impossible but will also result in no > real difference. I'd like them to agree we cannot give a maybe better > than 10% (about 20 people) error margin. Just as we cannot say that > most people will eat only one course or stand up to get their food > three times. > The problem is that we have to pay for the number of meals we ask for. Any way i have to produce a number for the dinner tomorrow by the end of the day, so if anyone has some suggestions please shout! Velimir ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Direct transport from Zagreb airport to main bus station
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, As a great deal of you will be arriving at Zagreb airport, you should know following: * Direct bus line from airport to main bus station Yes, there is a company that operates a direct line between these two locations. You can find their schedule here: http://www.plesoprijevoz.hr/schedulezg.htm * From main bus station in Zagreb to Banja Luka bus station There are several buses a day in both directions. On the following site you can find out at what time are they leaving for Banja Luka: http://www.akz.hr/EN/voznired.aspx All you have to type is BANJA LUKA in _To_ field and it will show you the schedule for that day. The optional _Days to show_ field will show you schedule for the following day(s), depending on the number you enter. * Costs Bus from ZG airport to bus station is 30 Croatian Kunas [~4?] Bus from ZG bus station to BL bus station is 140 [~19?] (varies from company to company, but this is the average price) [ 1.00 ? = 7.42769 HRK ] * according to http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert/?Amount=1&From=EUR&To=HRK If you're worried about currency and exchange, don't be. There is exchange office and ATM inside the ZG airport. * Stuck at airport Waiting for a bus? Bored? Well, airport facilities include Duty-Free, Coffee shop, snack bars, Vip lounge, Business lounge, Souvenir Shops, Restaurant, Money exchange office, ATM, Bank. It's no luxury, but hey, might as well relax while waiting :) For more travel information, there's a huge info on wiki at: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Travel-Arriving See you all in days to come! Vedran -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOIdVRAAoJEEIU23x/a574vSMQALo7ayrqDpbgArLyBBfigBvb IHjn8L7kARz8MBRqaKn9afmbLhKx+Zn/8eFZs0WMK3QkRdZgX7/QTr+MWCT/0TBL 3s68vn/RZi3A6mdeV6qTecOEbcANWk174D1Lx5xviyN8vzQSzaYOtL2pnWIA1/6p dL8gDScG7XteefvWD+ZdT28L6GSAikEToQVhz9QhZd7eaNmv2VuWDyudi834s2O3 MJMlP500zpm3DpVldZZ1LxX5OQ6zQVGSOpcRg6Oz9bWgxm1hJzZHlE6mRfja30hc VI0Iu7Ze0kCZlxNNmF6BiHwkWNXUr5lmrcSf/qgQiivxkzuMD3I4onBUUok5Uozv 3xmw5x60YFdfbwPavZrJwlM8VHSsBlM3Oxusnwv/wqvZ5eh3q53i6rqdzyHaumlK tE9UCQ82EuQHkJ1Z4W4JOFjxck4UsY/xHvxirFFyZPxpaG8C/3dBrJ7uSIVvqvUy GS08eaba7S4LPS1VcOleqBpct39c0v+hvi1/vInjy/ksZyND0/qv7ptM+3fhDzbG Pp853FGg7E0EG1jqb2asBZ6qDR6LS5kFhimrxbwj4sKLl16LBseydPl5wCaZLT3y HFytZM9rx3J/HelVyQ8yansiY+mdyEoFA2vJVpT2q2m/Bo8/qnQLppsEf5nBCUbI AgbXwH8Ty6XbPwX8SYTk =c5aT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] test
just a test ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] The h01ger says the list is broken.
but i don't believe h01ger, so lets see and test. If you can read this you can stop reading now, test worked. If you are still reading than you wasted some time of your live. And if you still haven't managed to stop, my condolences. What, still reading? Meet me at DebConf, I can teach you how to stop reading. Really, seems to be a feature you haven't managed yet. Wait, don't you tell me I could just stop writing. Don't you make it my problem! YOU are reading. Ohmy. You bad. I'm off. -- bye, Joerg > I tried to make my own judgements all the time. And that involves > reading the fscking graphviz license in full many times! pgpFUN2l2UbSs.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] The h01ger says the list is broken.
by putting a name in the subject, you just lost. thanks for fixing this anyway :-) ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] The h01ger says the list is broken.
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:50:33 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: ... > Ohmy. You bad. I'm off. In next weeks exciting episode, Ganneff-das-Brot finds himself trapped in a toroidal universe, where every time he tries to exit the server room he finds himself entering it from the opposite door... Mist! ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Dinner!
Hi, Just a reminder that dinner is at 19:00h at hotel Bosna. See you all there! -- Velimir ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Dinner!
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Velimir Iveljic wrote: > Hi, > > Just a reminder that dinner is at 19:00h at hotel Bosna. > > See you all there! > > -- > Velimir > Forgot to include -discuss. So dinner at 19:00 at hotel Bosna! See you there! -- Velimir ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Dinner!
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Velimir Iveljic wrote: > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Velimir Iveljic > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Just a reminder that dinner is at 19:00h at hotel Bosna. >> >> See you all there! >> >> -- >> Velimir >> > > Forgot to include -discuss. > > So dinner at 19:00 at hotel Bosna! > > See you there! > > -- > Velimir > Everyone should go to the reception tell their name and they will receive a food coupon. This is a temporary solution for today. I will update you when we have something better figured out. Velimir ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] The h01ger says the list is broken.
Quoting Philip Hands (p...@hands.com): > On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:50:33 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > ... > > Ohmy. You bad. I'm off. > > In next weeks exciting episode, Ganneff-das-Brot finds himself trapped > in a toroidal universe, where every time he tries to exit the server > room he finds himself entering it from the opposite door... Oh, doh, did you find a server room with 32 doors? ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Dinner!
Fyi, the drinks in the hotel restaurant are not free, there was a mixup and i was not told about it until just now. :/ Water is free at least! Velimir On Jul 17, 2011 5:43 PM, "Velimir Iveljic" wrote: > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Velimir Iveljic > wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Velimir Iveljic >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just a reminder that dinner is at 19:00h at hotel Bosna. >>> >>> See you all there! >>> >>> -- >>> Velimir >>> >> >> Forgot to include -discuss. >> >> So dinner at 19:00 at hotel Bosna! >> >> See you there! >> >> -- >> Velimir >> > > Everyone should go to the reception tell their name and they will > receive a food coupon. > This is a temporary solution for today. I will update you when we have > something better figured out. > > > Velimir ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-video] change of video licence
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 09:53:04AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > in previous years we released the videos under the 'DebConf video licence' > which is available here: > http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/LICENCE' > > Then we got a request to relicence the video from Eben Moglens talk at > DebConf10 about the freedom box under CC-BY-SA > (see http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20110317.185848.a8b8916c.en.html > and previous mails to this thread) and we did so. > > Judith suggested to use a dual licence for our videos in future: > http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20110419.231451.a95936fb.en.html > which seems like a useful thing to me. Might be a good idea. However, I feel I need to ask: Why not simply move to cc-by-sa and 'forget' about the debconf-video license? Or are the two incompatible? -- The volume of a pizza of thickness a and radius z can be described by the following formula: pi zz a ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-video] change of video licence
> Might be a good idea. However, I feel I need to ask: Why not simply move > to cc-by-sa and 'forget' about the debconf-video license? Or are the two > incompatible? Guess, no one is really able to tell you, unless he's a lawyer. This is exactly the problem with cc licenses. They pretend to be easily understandable, and hide ugly huge lawyerreadable texts, that are the actual licenses. These nice pictures just mislead and are juridical void. http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.en compared to http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-video] change of video licence
The debconf-video license is a modifed MIT license, more exactly: The word "software" ist replaced by the word "work". So it can be regarded as nearly the same thing, and not as a strange homebrewn license. http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/LICENCE ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] meetings tomorrow
Hi, we'll meet tomorrow - at 11oo in Banski Dvor to have a orga team meeting, - at 12oo in Banski Dvor to have a video team meeting, - at around 13oo somewhere to meet with Diva people. I suggest to have the 11oo meeting in the big auditorium and to have the 12oo meeting in the small auditorium (so the video team meeting can start at 12oo even if the orga team meeting is still running), but this might be changed by reality. (I personally will do video meeting at 12oo.) I suspect (or hope) the diva meeting will be at MrBrownBlack and that 13oo will be somewhat met, but that "around 13oo" is the only info they gave Adnan. I hope there will be more info at the 11oo meeting. cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-video] change of video licence
On Sonntag, 17. Juli 2011, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Might be a good idea. However, I feel I need to ask: Why not simply move > to cc-by-sa and 'forget' about the debconf-video license? Or are the two > incompatible? good point. I dont think they are, the old licence is basically the 2clause bsd licence reworded for video... ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-video] change of video licence
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 01:08:01AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sonntag, 17. Juli 2011, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Might be a good idea. However, I feel I need to ask: Why not simply move > > to cc-by-sa and 'forget' about the debconf-video license? Or are the two > > incompatible? > > good point. I dont think they are, the old licence is basically the 2clause > bsd licence reworded for video... In that case, the question is whether we want copyleft or not. If we don't, we could consider using CC-BY-3.0 (without -SA) or keep it as a dual-license. If people don't prefer the 2-clause BSD to the CC-BY-3.0 license for these video's I'd suggest just using CC-BY-3.0 by itself. It is explicitly usable in CC-BY-SA-3.0 works. If we do want to insist on copyleft, we really ought to switch to CC-BY-SA-3.0 alone since the debconf video license isn't. My suggestion is just CC-BY-3.0 (no -SA) by itself. - Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
