Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food
Hi! * Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060228 12:37]: > What do you think? Do you oppose the simple trust model? I would prefer the simple trust model without food tickets; mainly because food tickets always end up not near to me, when I need them - I always forget them (and I think I'm not the only one who needed to run back to pick up his tickets). Yours sincerely, Alexander -- http://learn.to/quote/ http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Authentication for food
Hi! * Meike Reichle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060228 14:39]: > My idea was the following: If we have n food tickets we'll have > to pay for n meals. However, it does not matter *who* uses a food ticket. > So if I skiped a meal and thus have an extra ticket, I can give it to > someone else, so (s)he uses it. This does not raise the overall number of > served meals but still provides some flixibility. Uhm... nearly everyone will have those tickets, so whome would you like to invite? (Maybe Ganneff who is always hungry... but didn't someone told us, the portions there are even big enough for him?) Yours sincerely, Alexander -- http://learn.to/quote/ http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] On the possible extra rooms
Hi, I'm quite hurried right now, so this goes in raw, just as I talked it over in the IRC. PLEASE READ. This includes a financial decision that has to be made soon :) (09:50:14) gwolf: h01ger: http://media.debconf.org/dc6/images/oaxtepec/salones_tulipan_guayacan.png (09:50:37) gwolf: h01ger: That's the floorplan for the one or two extra rooms I'm considering to also request (09:51:01) gwolf: h01ger: They are quite spacy (for a small meeting), and they have a little private aera (09:51:28) gwolf: The areas with leaves and blocs are just outside... But about the private area, I mean the area labeled "A" (09:51:35) gwolf: I think we could store the servers in that area (09:51:44) gwolf: have the video team work in the main area (09:52:12) h01ger: can we get colling into A ? (09:52:24) gwolf: and use any extra space for our organizing needs (i.e. bags for registration, as the registration will be in one of the hacklabs, less than 5m away) (09:52:38) h01ger: besides that, it looks good to me (09:52:48) gwolf: I think so. There was a small window. We didn't _request_ the permission, but I think we can get it (09:53:18) ***h01ger thinks it would not be good to use the video editing room as an office where other stuff is done. though socializing is nice, it distracts from work (09:53:41) gwolf: ...Otherwise, we can rent _both_ rooms (the second one is identical) for organization stuff - Having that much empty space (120m3) is enough for the heat to dissipate, /methinks - and the walls seem natural coolers (09:53:48) gwolf: h01ger: I understand your point :) (09:53:52) h01ger: hmmm the salons are 4m high, the small room as well? (09:53:57) gwolf: yup (09:54:06) gwolf: the measures there are for this small room (09:54:07) gwolf: OH! (09:54:10) h01ger: (good for) cool(ing)! (09:54:11) gwolf: You mean the "A" space? (09:54:14) h01ger: yes (09:54:18) gwolf: I think so, but am not sure (09:54:35) h01ger: two salons would obviously be better, but also more expensive... (09:54:43) gwolf: BTW, hacklabs are like this: http://media.debconf.org/dc6/images/oaxtepec/hacklabs.png (09:54:57) gwolf: Yup... The thing is we must decide _NOW_ if we want the extra two rooms (09:55:06) gwolf: They are not that expensive - Around US$100 a day (09:55:23) gwolf: But another group was requesting them. We have priority as long as they don't pay. (09:55:24) h01ger: hacklabs like 3, 4, 5, or 6 or 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 ? :) (09:55:40) h01ger: 14 days = 1400$ * 2 = 2800 (09:55:55) gwolf: Hacklab will be rooms 3, 4, 5, 6 - Probably 4 or 6 will become the BoF auditorium (09:56:11) h01ger: ah, nice (09:56:25) gwolf: ...Well, and we have to mix in the costs that we will save 2xUS$30, as we were anyway planning on renting _hotel_ rooms for this same work (09:56:34) gwolf: So it'd only be a premium of US$140 per day (09:57:00) gwolf: So 140*14=1960 (09:57:07) h01ger: BoF auditorium aka 3rd room from a video POV ? (as we have 2 auditoriums allready..) (09:57:17) gwolf: No, no (09:57:21) h01ger: ok (09:57:25) h01ger: :) (09:57:28) gwolf: We will use the big auditorium only for Debian Day (09:57:34) h01ger: ah (09:57:42) gwolf: For Debconf, we will use the Parliamentary Tower and the Hacklab Extra (09:57:51) h01ger: so we'll use three different auditoriums, but never at the same time.. (09:57:57) gwolf: exactly (09:58:07) gwolf: The auditorium is _too_ big (~600 people) (09:58:12) h01ger: back to renting rooms then... (09:58:17) gwolf: We might even hold debian day in the tower as well (09:58:20) gwolf: ok, back (09:58:43) h01ger: as said on the list, i would rent both, but then, money matters (09:59:11) gwolf: I know... If you don't mind, I'll put a copy of this log in the list (09:59:22) h01ger: fine with me (09:59:24) gwolf: ...So people can say whatever they want _soon_ (09:59:29) h01ger: ack (09:59:32) h01ger: before monday? (09:59:37) gwolf: ...I'd like to call Oaxtepec to confirm the rooms tomorrow or at most Friday (09:59:47) h01ger: ok (09:59:53) h01ger: fine with me as well :) (...Eight hours later...) ARGH - I thought I had sent this, and have been unable to sit at my computer the whole day. Anyway... The following are photos of this room I am suggesting: http://www.gwolf.org/index.php?photos/album/13/photo/693 http://www.gwolf.org/index.php?photos/album/13/photo/694 http://www.gwolf.org/index.php?photos/album/13/photo/695 http://www.gwolf.org/index.php?photos/album/13/photo/696 http://www.gwolf.org/index.php?photos/album/13/photo/697 Now, as for Andreas' further questions on IRC (sorry for quoting you without proper permission ;-) ): (14:42:05) stockholm: in my oppinion oaxasldkfj can move their ass and fork off the rooms for free. we get really bad payment options etc, i dont want to give them much more money (14:43:02) stockholm: i dont get the impression they are providing that great service to justify more money (14:44:26) stockholm: it looks (from the mail) that we are in no position to make demand
[Debconf-team] On the logistics for registration (and why we want the two extra rooms)
Hi again, For this mail to work, you have to be familiar with (or at least be able to view from time to time) two maps: http://media.debconf.org/dc6/images/oaxtepec/oaxtepec_general.png http://media.debconf.org/dc6/images/oaxtepec/general_map.png Why two? The first map has the very handy numbers showing what each place is, but the second map is a bit more exact, and shows only the areas we will be working at. And beware, as more maps are coming ;-) Nadezhda's preparing yet another one with the rough distance measurements we made, and coloring the areas we will use, which will be much easier to use as a reference. I need you to locate the following points on the first map, and then find each of them in the second one: 14 - Administrative offices 16 - Work rooms 3-8 19 - Restaurant 21 - Yautepec hotel 23 - Parliamentary tower 24 - Zacatepec hotel 29 - Main auditorium So, what's the deal with registration? Originally, we had planned to hire three extra rooms in the hotel: one for the video crew, one for the servers and one for the administrative stuff (i.e. what we called "reception" in DC5). Oaxtepec hotels have all a small reception desk [1], where we planned to have the reception. There are a couple of blockers to this. Before that, check the maps, points number 14, 21 and 16. - People will arrive to the administrative offices, that's where it's more obvious for buses and taxis to drop you at. It's quite a long way from the hotels! - People will have to register _twice_: First with us (so we give them their welcome pack) and then with Oaxtepec (so they give them the key and wristband - No, we cannot do that, they have to handle it. Period.) - The two hacklabs we will be using (one of them is obscured by the wheelchair symbol) have a small cafeteria region [2] that I think we can use to hand people their registration material. We could even take over the whole coffee rest area [3] (see hacklab map [4] as well - Remember we have two of them). But I think it will be much easier for us to handle people arriving at unplanned days/hours if we have the whole stash of bags (and other administrativia) 10m away instead of 200m away in the hotel. Now, going out of the reception logistics: - I think the video guys, as well as the organization guys working inside our bunker, will appreciate being close to the hacklab, so whenever they want a bit of fresh air they can just crash with the other hackers. At DC5 I regretted I almost didn't get to enter Smökki. - It seems to me we have better power coverage there. It seems people in Oaxtepec are willing to allow us to pull a thick power cable from the auditorium, ~50m away. The room is quite large, ~120m3, so we might also not need to get cooling for the servers and be OK with just ventilation. - The cost will go up a bit, but not too much - Don't have the exact number here, but it was ~US$100 a day for each of the rooms. We will then be able to deallocate two (or were they three? One for organization stuff, one for video, one for servers?) hotel rooms, at ~US$30 a day. Ok... I have to leave _now_, so that's that. Greetings, [1] http://www.gwolf.org/index.php?photos/album/13/photo/711 [2] http://www.gwolf.org/index.php?photos/album/13/photo/684 [3] http://www.gwolf.org/index.php?photos/album/13/photo/691 [4] http://media.debconf.org/dc6/images/oaxtepec/hacklabs.png -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
