[Debconf-discuss] Heidelberg bus 32 info

2015-07-07 Thread Daniel Pocock



The info page[1] mentions bus 32 but there is no link or timetable info

I went looking for details and found the following:

- Google Maps doesn't seem to know about this bus when giving
directions, it knows the place as "DJH Jugendherberge Heidelberg
International" but it doesn't show the stop on the map

- Openstreetmap says it is not found

- Google finds the bus route is known to Openstreetmap though[2]

- one of the top results in a Google search for "Heidelberg bus 32" is
vrn.de[3] but it doesn't seem to know the bus stop, type Jugendheberge
and it goes to "Mardorf (Nidersachs), Jugendherberge" or "Uberlingen
(Bodens), Jugenherberge"

- there is another site, bus-bahn-fahrplan.de that appears to show a lot
more detail, exact bus times[4] - is this info official and is it correct?

This final link appears to suggest 6 buses/hour weekdays, 3 buses/hour
weekends and 2 buses/hour from 9pm.  Maybe somebody could add that on
the info page if it is correct?


1. http://debconf15.debconf.org/information.xhtml

2. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/57251

3.
http://efa9.vrn.de/vrn/XSLT_TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en&place_destination=Heidelberg&name_destination=Hbf&type_destination=stop&place_origin=Heidelberg&name_origin=Kernphysik.Instit.&type_origin=stop

4.
http://bus-bahn-fahrplan.de/fahrplan-heidelberg/28-518168/bus-32-neuenheim-kopfklinik-heidelberg-hauptbahnhof-bus
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Heidelberg bus 32 info

2015-07-07 Thread gregor herrmann
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:22:33 +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:

> The info page[1] mentions bus 32 but there is no link or timetable info

> - one of the top results in a Google search for "Heidelberg bus 32" is
> vrn.de[3] but it doesn't seem to know the bus stop, type Jugendheberge
> and it goes to "Mardorf (Nidersachs), Jugendherberge" or "Uberlingen
> (Bodens), Jugenherberge"

> 1. http://debconf15.debconf.org/information.xhtml
> 
> 3. 
> http://efa9.vrn.de/vrn/XSLT_TRIP_REQUEST2?language=en&place_destination=Heidelberg&name_destination=Hbf&type_destination=stop&place_origin=Heidelberg&name_origin=Kernphysik.Instit.&type_origin=stop


[1] says "bus line no 32, direction to Neuenheim (Kopfklinik). The
youth hostel has its own stop "Jugendherberge"."

[3] redirects the entry "Heidelberg Jugendherberge" to "Neuenheim,
Jugendherberge" which matches "Neuenheim" in [1], and which looks
good according to the shown map (there's a zoo and a river).

Going to
http://fahrplanauskunft.vrn.de/vrn/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en ,
entering "Bus RNV 32" into the "Route" field and pressing
"Fahrplanbuchseiten erstellen" shows the complete timetable.
This seems to be a stable direct link:
http://fahrplanauskunft.vrn.de/vrn/TTB/efa10-2_6713_TP.pdf



http://www.rnv-online.de/ looks a bit more modern.
Timetables:
- from the main station to the YH:
  
http://www.rnv-online.de/fileadmin/user_upload/downloads/Aushangfahrplaene/32_1_10999.pdf
- from the youth hostel to town:
  
http://www.rnv-online.de/fileadmin/user_upload/downloads/Aushangfahrplaene/32_2_11198.pdf
- static map:
  http://www.rnv-online.de/uploads/media/Liniennetzplan_HD_02.pdf
  
http://www.rnv-online.de/fileadmin/user_upload/downloads/Plaene/Liniennetzplaene/Liniennetzplan_HD.pdf
  (the YH is in the top left, the main station is the "DB" in the
  center)
- dynamic map:
  
http://www.rnv-online.de/fahrplaene/aushangfahrplaene/plan/ort/heidelberg/plan.html?no_cache=1
  

Now someone should update [1] :)


Cheers,
gregor


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Heidelberg bus 32 info

2015-07-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 10:22:33AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> - one of the top results in a Google search for "Heidelberg bus 32" is
> vrn.de[3] but it doesn't seem to know the bus stop, type Jugendheberge
> and it goes to "Mardorf (Nidersachs), Jugendherberge" or "Uberlingen
> (Bodens), Jugenherberge"

The vrn.de web page is rather picky with bus stop names. It knows the
appropriate stop as "Neuenheim, Jugendherberge", as the hostel is
located in Heidelberg-Neuenheim.

I would, however, rather go for http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/, this is
available in English as well (click on the arrow on the side of
"Deutschland" and change to "USA"), has a reasonably correct timetable
and is less picky regarding station names (as in "will recognize
'heidelberg, jugendherberge' with and without punctuation as well")

> This final link appears to suggest 6 buses/hour weekdays, 3 buses/hour
> weekends and 2 buses/hour from 9pm.

That is correct. Half of the buses take a slight detour, but that
shouldn't be a big issue.

Greetings
Marc

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Heidelberg bus 32 info

2015-07-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel Pocock  [2015-07-07 10:22 +0200]:
> - Google Maps doesn't seem to know about this bus when giving
> directions, it knows the place as "DJH Jugendherberge Heidelberg
> International" but it doesn't show the stop on the map

Don't use Google Maps. ;)

> - Openstreetmap says it is not found

It is confusing, indeed, as the stop labelled Jogendherberge doesn't
correspond to a sensible connection.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/278689992

> - one of the top results in a Google search for "Heidelberg bus 32" is
> vrn.de[3] but it doesn't seem to know the bus stop, type Jugendheberge
> and it goes to "Mardorf (Nidersachs), Jugendherberge" or "Uberlingen
> (Bodens), Jugenherberge"

The official name of the stop is "Neuenheim, Jugendherberge".

> - there is another site, bus-bahn-fahrplan.de that appears to show
> a lot more detail, exact bus times[4] - is this info official and
> is it correct?

Yes, this looks accurate.

> This final link appears to suggest 6 buses/hour weekdays,
> 3 buses/hour weekends and 2 buses/hour from 9pm.  Maybe somebody
> could add that on the info page if it is correct?

Sounds about right. Would you like to volunteer creating a patch for
the underlying XHTML page? ;)

https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debconf-data/dc15.git/plain/website/information.xhtml

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[Debconf-discuss] car-sharing from Paris (and elsewere)

2015-07-07 Thread Jean Schurger

Are some people willing to share places in their car ?
I'm thinking about Paris because it's the closest big city where I will
be and there is few debian fellow here ;)

Let fill the wiki !

https://debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/CarSharing

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] car-sharing from Paris (and elsewere)

2015-07-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 09:59:23AM -0400, Jean Schurger wrote:
>
>Are some people willing to share places in their car ?
>I'm thinking about Paris because it's the closest big city where I will
>be and there is few debian fellow here ;)
>
>Let fill the wiki !
>
>https://debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/CarSharing

There's a convoy of 3 cars heading over from Cambridge:

http://wiki.earth.li/DebconfTravel2015 

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] car-sharing from Paris (and elsewere)

2015-07-07 Thread David Prévot
Hi,

> Are some people willing to share places in their car ?

> Let fill the wiki !

FWIW, https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/TravelCoordination and more
specifically
https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/TravelCoordination/Arrival#By_car
and
https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/TravelCoordination/Departure#By_car
already have some information/offer.

https://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/CCCampTransport has some offer in
the end too.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] car-sharing from Paris (and elsewere)

2015-07-07 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 7 July 2015 at 15:14, Steve McIntyre  wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 07, 2015 at 09:59:23AM -0400, Jean Schurger wrote:
>>
>>Are some people willing to share places in their car ?
>>I'm thinking about Paris because it's the closest big city where I will
>>be and there is few debian fellow here ;)
>>
>>Let fill the wiki !
>>
>>https://debconf.org/wiki/DebConf15/CarSharing
>
> There's a convoy of 3 cars heading over from Cambridge:
>

Sound interesting. I wonder if I should join the convoy with
Mitsubishi Outlander 4hs...

I haven't had my DebConf travel plans confirmed yet.


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