[Debconf-discuss] [OT] [OT] Can you repeat, please?

2010-08-11 Thread Jonas Smedegaard

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 08:36:39PM +0100, Tim Retout wrote:

On 10 August 2010 19:26, Luca Capello  wrote:
Basically, given that I am not an English native speaker, I tend to 
make errors, thus sometime the person in front of me does not 
understand.  I found out that she/he replies to me with different 
expressions, used AFAIK without any preference WRT her/his origin.


Until now, I have found three of them: "say what?", "what's that?" 
and "say it again", the first two being a word game Biella, Zack and 
me started the last days after I explained the above to both of them.


"Say what?" definitely sounds US English.  I wouldn't use the other two 
either.


Your basic four UK responses are as follows, in descending order of 
politeness:


"Pardon?", "Sorry?", "Come again?", "What?".

For bonus points, elaborate:

"I beg your pardon, what did you say?"
"I'm terribly sorry, come again?"

If all else fails, add more self-deprecation and explanation:

"I'm afraid I didn't quite hear, would you mind awfully repeating that 
please?"


This actually happened to me in New York with someone asking for money. 
It seemed somewhat unfair not to give it to them at that point, after 
making them repeat themselves so many times.


In Denmark we say "Hvad?" or "Hvadbehager?" (like english "What?" or 
"What, please?").


We tend to swallow endings of most words, however (described by other 
scandinavians as their language with a hot potato in the mouth).  Thus 
what we spit out really is "Hva'?" (like english "huh?") or "Hva' 
ba'?".


A friend of mine teaching danish to refugees told me some years ago that 
a student came to him wondering why when trying out his newly taught 
danish expressions in a bus or on the street, people would respond 
"Whopper!".



 - Jonas

Amazed (but not proud) of my own mother tongue

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] cdn.debian.net

2010-08-11 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there!

I guess this discussion should continue on debian-mirrors@, if you drop
debconf-discuss@ please Cc: me.

On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 08:07 -0400, Hideki Yamane wrote: 
> On Sun, 1 Aug 2010 22:00:40 +0900
> Yasuhiro Araki  wrote:
> > Thank you for requesting cdn.d.n updating request.
> > I just has added mirror.cc.columbia.edu to list of cdn.debian.net.
> 
>  How's your feeling about cdn.debian.net, nice? bad?

I am very happy with that, especially because as Joey wrote you do not
need to tweak anything while traveling.

> Please give back your feeling/idea to Yasuhiro Araki  , he 
> really 
>  wants *your* voice (to keep "motivation", "communication" is important, 
> right? :-)

I cannot do anything more than thanking Araki-san for this service,
which I hope will become official ASAP.

BTW, since we are at it, I am now in Boston (71.232.13.26) and I think
cdn.debian.net does not pick up the nearest mirror, which I guess is the
MIT one (traceroute hops and mirror FQDN in parenthesis):
=
l...@gismo:~$ host cdn.debian.net
cdn.debian.net is an alias for deb.cdn.araki.net.
deb.cdn.araki.net has address 149.20.20.135
 (12 mirrors1.kernel.org)
deb.cdn.araki.net has address 149.20.20.135
deb.cdn.araki.net has address 64.50.236.52
 (more than 30, last one is 13 chcgildtcor53-giten9-1.network.tds.net)
deb.cdn.araki.net has address 64.50.236.52
deb.cdn.araki.net has address 128.59.59.71
 (14 teewurst.cc.columbia.edu)
deb.cdn.araki.net has address 128.59.59.71
deb.cdn.araki.net has address 128.226.116.176
 (more than 30, last one is 9 66.162.73.26)
deb.cdn.araki.net has address 128.226.116.176

l...@gismo:~$
=

FWIW, `traceroute debian.lcs.mit.edu` (rocky-mountain.csail.mit.edu,
128.30.2.36) gives me only 8 hops.

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] RCBC - results and prizes

2010-08-11 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:24:57 -0400, micah anderson wrote:

> > - send an email with your snail mail address to mi...@debian.org, and
> >   he will ship the prizes to you
> I'm leaving in two days for the other side of the country, and wont be
> back until the 25th of the month. I do not anticipate having time to
> send out *anything* until I return. Don't expect an email from me
> either.

Thanks for the info. Perfectly fine for me -- enjoy your vacations,
you deserve them!

Cheers,
gregor
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [OT] Can you repeat, please? (was Re: Thank you, organizers and volunteers and everyone)

2010-08-11 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Andreas!

On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 22:07 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 02:26:00PM -0400, Luca Capello wrote:
> > Until now, I have found three of them: "say what?", "what's that?" and
> > "say it again", the first two being a word game Biella, Zack and me
> > started the last days after I explained the above to both of them.
> 
> Wunderbar!

I really missed you and I am sure you would have used this /wonderful/
(pun intended) expression at the end of the Van Cortlandt Track Club
bi-monthly 5km cross-country summer race:

http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20100806.222131.da0e887a.en.html

> SCNR

Is this another expression (this time German) I am not aware of?  ;-)

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [OT] Can you repeat, please? (was Re: Thank you, organizers and volunteers and everyone)

2010-08-11 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there!

On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 20:36 +0100, Tim Retout wrote:
> > Until now, I have found three of them: "say what?", "what's that?" and
> > "say it again", the first two being a word game Biella, Zack and me
> > started the last days after I explained the above to both of them.
> 
> "Say what?" definitely sounds US English.  I wouldn't use the other two 
> either.
> 
> Your basic four UK responses are as follows, in descending order of 
> politeness:
[...]

Thank you Tim, I thought that given your elaborate reply we have enough
material for a wiki page:

  http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/CanYouRepeatPlease

Adnan, you can now create a similar DebConf11 wiki page ;-)

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [OT] Can you repeat, please? (was Re: Thank you, organizers and volunteers and everyone)

2010-08-11 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 01:45:09PM -0400, Luca Capello wrote:
> > Wunderbar!
> 
> I really missed you and I am sure you would have used this /wonderful/
> (pun intended) expression at the end of the Van Cortlandt Track Club
> bi-monthly 5km cross-country summer race:
> 
> http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20100806.222131.da0e887a.en.html

I really enjoyed Christian's report and it's a real pity that I was
unable to join - specifically the DD running in a kilt might have beaten
the DD with kilt taking a bath in Argentina in winter time. ;-)
Any links to photos of your performance???

Wunderbar!
 
> > SCNR
> 
> Is this another expression (this time German) I am not aware of?  ;-)

Yes.  The German translation is something like "Kilt wearing Italians
are doing strange things all over the world".

See you next year

 Andreas.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] uploaded slides cannot be downloaded

2010-08-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Donnerstag, 5. August 2010, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
> The schedule export at penta/dc10_schedule/ doesn't include everything
> that's at the logged-in version at...

I consider this a bug, where to file it, so we can track+fix it?


cheers,
Holger


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Travel sponsorship BoF topics/attendance request

2010-08-11 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Donnerstag, 5. August 2010, Pablo Duboue wrote:
> I set up a gobby document on gobby.debiant.net under 414 Schapiro. The
> name is dc10-bof-travel-sponsorship.

Is this document or any other result (like a summary what you discussed) from 
that BoF somewhere available?


cheers,
Holger


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] uploaded slides cannot be downloaded

2010-08-11 Thread Michael Schultheiss
Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Donnerstag, 5. August 2010, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
> > The schedule export at penta/dc10_schedule/ doesn't include everything
> > that's at the logged-in version at...
> 
> I consider this a bug, where to file it, so we can track+fix it?

It is a bug - the penta queue in RT would be a good place to track it.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Lost Garmin "ANT+" USB communication device

2010-08-11 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting John Goerzen (jgoer...@complete.org):

>   That's was great!

Bleh, you lucky John who can't yet have your own son making fun of you
in public mailing list. Beware, that time will come, man:-). I'd
recommend *not* teaching too many things to Jacob to avoid this

Merci, JB, for finding my ANT+ communication device, by the way!

(sent from Cape Cod, where we had today the immense pleasure to see
dozens of whales boucing around us in a tremendous whales-watching
trip)


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [OT] Can you repeat, please? (was Re: Thank you, organizers and volunteers and everyone)

2010-08-11 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Andreas Tille (andr...@an3as.eu):
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 01:45:09PM -0400, Luca Capello wrote:
> > > Wunderbar!
> > 
> > I really missed you and I am sure you would have used this /wonderful/
> > (pun intended) expression at the end of the Van Cortlandt Track Club
> > bi-monthly 5km cross-country summer race:
> > 
> > http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20100806.222131.da0e887a.en.html
> 
> I really enjoyed Christian's report and it's a real pity that I was
> unable to join - specifically the DD running in a kilt might have beaten
> the DD with kilt taking a bath in Argentina in winter time. ;-)
> Any links to photos of your performance???


There's only one photo of it, AFAIK, and it's still on my laptop,
travelling through USA with jerky net connections. And my gallery is
still stuck (I can't upload photos to it!). So you may have to wait.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Lost Garmin "ANT+" USB communication device

2010-08-11 Thread John Goerzen
On 08/11/2010 09:07 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Quoting John Goerzen (jgoer...@complete.org):
>
>>That's was great!
>
> Bleh, you lucky John who can't yet have your own son making fun of you
> in public mailing list. Beware, that time will come, man:-). I'd
> recommend *not* teaching too many things to Jacob to avoid this

Heh.  Hats off to JB for sending the funniest message to debconf-discuss 
I've seen this year.

Jacob is already making fun of me in his own 3-year-old way.  He just 
doesn't have a mail reflector behind him yet... ;-)

Sample conversation:

Me: "Jacob, it's time to take off your pants so you can use the toilet."

Jacob: "Dad, these aren't PANTS.  They're SHORTS!"

... a few minutes later ...

Jacob: "Mom, dad called these PANTS.  They're really SHORTS.  Isn't that 
silly?"

I can totally see him being an ftpmaster one day... ;-)

> (sent from Cape Cod, where we had today the immense pleasure to see
> dozens of whales boucing around us in a tremendous whales-watching
> trip)

Very nice!

(As an aside, I was talking to a man on a sailboat in Nantucket Sound 
via amateur radio last night.  He said it was a beautiful evening up 
there, and would have been just a few miles from you.  I'm a bit 
jealous, as our power went off here, the temperatures are still hot, and 
we have no air conditioner without power...)

-- John
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