Re: [Debconf-discuss] Cheese, Wine material (and other stuff) for tomorrow's Cheese and Wine party

[Richard Darst]

On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 09:49:30PM -0400, Christian PERRIER wrote:

> So, people who brought cheese, or wine, or any other stuff meant for
> the C&W, please meet me outside Mudd (the Hacklab building) with your
> material. We will then go to Havemeyer and put the stuff either in the

Make sure to put your wine (and other alcohol) inside something so
that no one can observe what it is.

- richard

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Cheese, Wine material (and other stuff) for tomorrow's Cheese and Wine party

[Christian PERRIER]

Quoting Richard Darst (r...@zgib.net):
> On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 09:49:30PM -0400, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> 
> > So, people who brought cheese, or wine, or any other stuff meant for
> > the C&W, please meet me outside Mudd (the Hacklab building) with your
> > material. We will then go to Havemeyer and put the stuff either in the
> 
> Make sure to put your wine (and other alcohol) inside something so
> that no one can observe what it is.


I'll be using some orange Debconf bags to transport stuff. To people
who come to the "cheese trips" at HH+45 today, please try to come with
something to pack your stuff during the walk to havemeyer building and
inside it.


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG Key Management Best Practices BoF

[Luca Capello]

Hi there!

On Sun, 2010-08-01 at 22:03 -0500, Michael Shuler wrote:
> I volunteered to add an AdHoc Session and I'm thinking about the time
> slot just prior to the main KSP session on Friday evening - opinions?
> (it's a related topic and after looking through the rest of the
> schedule, I don't wish to step on any other talks)

I have (sort of) experience, especially with the OpenPGP smartcard
, but I would not say I am an
expert at all, also given that in the past I lost my key while playing
with hdparm .

Friday evening I will not be there, instead I will try to get shame on
me while running in kilt around NYC:

http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20100731.201646.752ce5d1.en.html

Thx, bye,
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf10 Schedule App for Android

[Iustin Pop]

On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 11:50:13PM -0400, John Goerzen wrote:
> On 08/01/2010 11:09 PM, Michael Prokop wrote:
> >http://dc10.spamt.net/
> 
> Awesome.  Thanks!  I had been trying to get Google Calendar to subscribe 
> to the iCal feed, but without success.  this is nice to have.

FWIW, I managed to get Google Calendar to import the ical file by
modifying it (removing the TZID specs from the timestart/stop fields).

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf10 Schedule App for Android

[John Goerzen]

On 08/02/2010 09:55 AM, Iustin Pop wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 11:50:13PM -0400, John Goerzen wrote:
>> On 08/01/2010 11:09 PM, Michael Prokop wrote:
>>> http://dc10.spamt.net/
>>
>> Awesome.  Thanks!  I had been trying to get Google Calendar to subscribe
>> to the iCal feed, but without success.  this is nice to have.
>
> FWIW, I managed to get Google Calendar to import the ical file by
> modifying it (removing the TZID specs from the timestart/stop fields).

Is it possible to get that change made to the master version?  It will 
be much nicer to subscribe to it so my calendar is updated every day.

Thanks for figuring that out, BTW.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf10 Schedule App for Android

[Jonathan Wiltshire]

On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 03:55:18PM +0200, Iustin Pop wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 11:50:13PM -0400, John Goerzen wrote:
> > On 08/01/2010 11:09 PM, Michael Prokop wrote:
> > >http://dc10.spamt.net/
> > 
> > Awesome.  Thanks!  I had been trying to get Google Calendar to subscribe 
> > to the iCal feed, but without success.  this is nice to have.
> 
> FWIW, I managed to get Google Calendar to import the ical file by
> modifying it (removing the TZID specs from the timestart/stop fields).

Ooo. Could you upload your ical file somewhere please?

Thanks,

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf10 Schedule App for Android

[Iustin Pop]

On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 03:21:59PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 03:55:18PM +0200, Iustin Pop wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 11:50:13PM -0400, John Goerzen wrote:
> > > On 08/01/2010 11:09 PM, Michael Prokop wrote:
> > > >http://dc10.spamt.net/
> > > 
> > > Awesome.  Thanks!  I had been trying to get Google Calendar to subscribe 
> > > to the iCal feed, but without success.  this is nice to have.
> > 
> > FWIW, I managed to get Google Calendar to import the ical file by
> > modifying it (removing the TZID specs from the timestart/stop fields).
> 
> Ooo. Could you upload your ical file somewhere please?

Well, if the schedule is updated, that won't help. Rather, here are the
instructions:

  wget http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/schedule.en.ics
  sed -i -e 's/;TZID=EDT//'  schedule.en.ics

The TZID is already present as a separate field, so we don't lose (I
think) the timezone information (for my calendar which is currently set
to EDT it worked nice).

I don't know much about the ical format, so maybe I did something
stupid. But it worked for me :)

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf10 Schedule App for Android

[John Goerzen]

On 08/02/2010 10:32 AM, Iustin Pop wrote:
> Well, if the schedule is updated, that won't help. Rather, here are the
> instructions:
>
>wget http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/schedule.en.ics
>sed -i -e 's/;TZID=EDT//'  schedule.en.ics

This is now available and auto-updating every 15 minutes from:

http://www.complete.org/~jgoerzen/schedule.en.ics

I have that working in my Google Calendar.

Subscribe there and be happy.

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[Debconf-discuss] fix to ical schedule TZ bug [was Re: Debconf10 Schedule App for Android]

[Jameson Rollins]

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 16:32:07 +0200, Iustin Pop  wrote:
> Well, if the schedule is updated, that won't help. Rather, here are the
> instructions:
> 
>   wget http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/schedule.en.ics
>   sed -i -e 's/;TZID=EDT//'  schedule.en.ics
> 
> The TZID is already present as a separate field, so we don't lose (I
> think) the timezone information (for my calendar which is currently set
> to EDT it worked nice).

Hi, folks.  This fix to the ical version of the schedule suggested by
Iustin also seems to fix the time problem that the ical version
currently has with korganizer.  Is it possible that we could make this
change permanently in the ical schedule?  Thanks!

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf10 Schedule App for Android

[Jonathan Wiltshire]

On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 10:43:49AM -0400, John Goerzen wrote:
> On 08/02/2010 10:32 AM, Iustin Pop wrote:
> >Well, if the schedule is updated, that won't help. Rather, here are the
> >instructions:
> >
> >   wget http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/schedule.en.ics
> >   sed -i -e 's/;TZID=EDT//'  schedule.en.ics

Oh, that's much simpler than I thought it would be. Thanks for the hint.

> This is now available and auto-updating every 15 minutes from:
> 
> http://www.complete.org/~jgoerzen/schedule.en.ics
> 
> I have that working in my Google Calendar.
> 
> Subscribe there and be happy.

Great, thanks!

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf10 Schedule App for Android

[Bdale Garbee]

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:09:50 +0200, Michael Prokop  wrote:
> one developer in my Grml team decided to take the fosdem-android app
> and adjust it for Debconf10. This means that there's an Android
> application available to check out the official event schedule.

Oh, wow.  Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Bdale


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf10 Schedule App for Android

[Paul Wise]

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 10:43 AM, John Goerzen  wrote:

> This is now available and auto-updating every 15 minutes from:
>
> http://www.complete.org/~jgoerzen/schedule.en.ics
>
> I have that working in my Google Calendar.
>
> Subscribe there and be happy.

I just subscribed to it with evolution and it works around evolution's
bugs nicely for me :D

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf10 Schedule App for Android

[Jameson Rollins]

On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:43:49 -0400, John Goerzen  wrote:
> On 08/02/2010 10:32 AM, Iustin Pop wrote:
> > Well, if the schedule is updated, that won't help. Rather, here are the
> > instructions:
> >
> >wget http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/schedule.en.ics
> >sed -i -e 's/;TZID=EDT//'  schedule.en.ics
> 
> This is now available and auto-updating every 15 minutes from:
> 
> http://www.complete.org/~jgoerzen/schedule.en.ics
> 
> I have that working in my Google Calendar.
> 
> Subscribe there and be happy.

This calendar works great in korganizer as well.  Thanks, John!

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Virtualization?

[micah anderson]

On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 08:08:41 -0700, Russ Allbery  wrote:
> John Goerzen  writes:
> 
> > One topic of interest to me is virtualization.  We've been using Xen for
> > awhile, and have had some issues with its state in squeeze, and are
> > looking at KVM.  There was a big discussion on -devel about this a few
> > months back.  I'd be interested in hearing what others are doing with
> > virtualization and where we see it heading in Debian.  Is anyone
> > knowledgeable about these things here, and willing to share?

I'd be interested in this as well, I'm using a hybrid of Xen,
Linux-Vservers, and KVM. I have some understanding of the plans on the
kernel-side and some experiences and problems I've had I'd be interested
in sharing and learning from people.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] fix to ical schedule TZ bug [was Re: Debconf10 Schedule App for Android]

[Michael Schultheiss]

Jameson Rollins wrote:
> Hi, folks.  This fix to the ical version of the schedule suggested by
> Iustin also seems to fix the time problem that the ical version
> currently has with korganizer.  Is it possible that we could make this
> change permanently in the ical schedule?  Thanks!

I've updated the ruby controller that generates the ical and it removed
most of the TZID fields.  I did notice one instance remaining at the end
of the file:

BEGIN:VTIMEZONE
TZID:EDT
TZNAME:America/New_York
END:VTIMEZONE

Does that also need to be removed
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[Debconf-discuss] Food & baseball tickets

[John Goerzen]

Hi,

My wife and sons (ages 1 and 3.5, but only the older one will eat their 
food) would like to join me for dinner at John Jay Tuesday evening. 
Where can I go to buy them access: front desk, the cafeteria itself, or 
other?

Secondly, what about baseball tickets?  Do we all have them 
automatically?  And how can I buy extras for my family there?  (So they 
can sit in the "Debian section")

-- John
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[Debconf-discuss] B and H Electronics

[Gabriella Coleman]

I am going to go to B and H Electronics [1] either today or tomorrow
at some point in the afternoon to buy something. The story is utterly
fascinating, described by one YELP reviewer as "Camera/Video/Audio
Porn Palace" [2]. If anyone would like to join either to get something
they need or for touristic purposes, let me know! I am a little
flexible with time so let me know what blocks of time may work for
you, if you are really interested in going. Then I will post the time
I/we are going for our pr0n.

[1] http://www.bhphotovideo.com/
[2] http://www.yelp.com/biz/b-and-h-new-york#hrid:rH4QiWK_C0YsxVwVfTcPCw

Biella
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] fix to ical schedule TZ bug [was Re: Debconf10 Schedule App for Android]

[Iustin Pop]

On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 11:09:37AM -0400, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
> Jameson Rollins wrote:
> > Hi, folks.  This fix to the ical version of the schedule suggested by
> > Iustin also seems to fix the time problem that the ical version
> > currently has with korganizer.  Is it possible that we could make this
> > change permanently in the ical schedule?  Thanks!
> 
> I've updated the ruby controller that generates the ical and it removed
> most of the TZID fields.  I did notice one instance remaining at the end
> of the file:
> 
> BEGIN:VTIMEZONE
> TZID:EDT
> TZNAME:America/New_York
> END:VTIMEZONE
> 
> Does that also need to be removed

Not in my tests - just the embedded fields are problematic.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf runners: morning run planned Aug 2nd 7:30am...or 7:00am

[Gaudenz Steinlin]

Excerpts from Christian PERRIER's message of Son Aug 01 14:48:16 -0400 2010:
> For tomorrow's morning run, I propose going through Riverside Park
> to north, this time, up to George Washington Bridge (that links
> Manhattan to New Jersey over the Hudson river).
> 
> The run will involve crossing Hudson by using the bridge and (I
> guess), get spectacular views of Manhattan.
> 
> That would be a longer run than usually (according to Google Maps,
> 9.5miles back and forth, so 15km).
> 
> Therefore, I propose two options:
> 
> - leaving at 7am and run about 6'/km so that we run for 1.5hours, plus
> keep about 10 minutes for sightseeing and/or rest, and
> be able to be back on time *and showered* for Zack's "Bits from the
> DPL" talk
> 
> - leaving at 7:30am and run quite faster with less sightseeing and
> rest. That would be about 5'15"/km.
> 
> Please let me know if you might want to join and what option you'd
> choose so that I can decide about these two options before
> tonight. Please do so by following up in the ML.

Can't we have a late afternoon run every other day? These would make
it possible for people like me and Luca to join you as well.
Temperatures in the late afternoon are currently really quite
acceptable for running.

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[Debconf-discuss] logitek headphone extra color bit

[Kevin Mark]

a bag from columbia bookstore containing the extra color bit for a
logitek headphone was found in the carelton hacklab. let us know if
its trash or you can pick it up near the carleton junk table behind
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] fix to ical schedule TZ bug [was Re: Debconf10 Schedule App for Android]

[Steve Langasek]

On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 11:09:37AM -0400, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
> Jameson Rollins wrote:
> > Hi, folks.  This fix to the ical version of the schedule suggested by
> > Iustin also seems to fix the time problem that the ical version
> > currently has with korganizer.  Is it possible that we could make this
> > change permanently in the ical schedule?  Thanks!

> I've updated the ruby controller that generates the ical and it removed
> most of the TZID fields.  I did notice one instance remaining at the end
> of the file:

> BEGIN:VTIMEZONE
> TZID:EDT
> TZNAME:America/New_York
> END:VTIMEZONE

> Does that also need to be removed

What would be better is if you can set a
TZID=/softwarestudio.org/Tzfile/America/New_York on each event, replacing
the previous, invalid TZID=EDT.  (TZID=America/New_York may also be
sufficient, I don't know.)  I believe the ical file you have currently is
/correct/, but it appears gnome clock-applet does not manage to process this
VTIMEZONE data (even though evolution itself does).

Thanks,
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] B and H Electronics

[Enis Sahinovic]

I'm interested in joining you since I was planning to buy a camcoder
there anyway and have been looking for anyone to join me ever since
I've arrived:)

Today after 4pm or tomorrow 'anytime' is ok for me.

Enis

On Monday, August 2, 2010, Gabriella Coleman  wrote:
> I am going to go to B and H Electronics [1] either today or tomorrow
> at some point in the afternoon to buy something. The story is utterly
> fascinating, described by one YELP reviewer as "Camera/Video/Audio
> Porn Palace" [2]. If anyone would like to join either to get something
> they need or for touristic purposes, let me know! I am a little
> flexible with time so let me know what blocks of time may work for
> you, if you are really interested in going. Then I will post the time
> I/we are going for our pr0n.
>
> [1] http://www.bhphotovideo.com/
> [2] http://www.yelp.com/biz/b-and-h-new-york#hrid:rH4QiWK_C0YsxVwVfTcPCw
>
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf runners: (reminder) how about participate to a local 5K race during DebConf?

[Daniel Kahn Gillmor]

On 07/31/2010 04:16 PM, Luca Capello wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 15:46 -0400, Christian PERRIER wrote:
>>> So, recently, I got in touch with a local group of runners who happen
>>> to organize a 5K (K stands for kilometers, not for thousands of
>>> dollars in prizes) race every other Thursday not too far from the
>>> DebConf venue. And, guess what? They'll have one on Aug 5th, so during
>>> DebConf.
 [...]
> DCschedule does not show any event after 18:00 for that day, can we add
> this event in Penta as well?
> 
>   http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/day_2010-08-05.en.html

I just renamed Penta event 533 ("DebConf Runs in Central Park") to
"DebConf Runs in Van Cortland Park", and put it on the schedule as
starting at 17:45.  it should show up in the public schedule shortly.

Christian, you should be able to update that event in Penta to put
relevant details in the abstract/description.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] fix to ical schedule TZ bug [was Re: Debconf10 Schedule App for Android]

[Jameson Rollins]

On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:09:37 -0400, Michael Schultheiss  
wrote:
> I've updated the ruby controller that generates the ical and it removed
> most of the TZID fields.  I did notice one instance remaining at the end
> of the file:
> 
> BEGIN:VTIMEZONE
> TZID:EDT
> TZNAME:America/New_York
> END:VTIMEZONE

Hey, Michael.  This change seems to have fixed the issue with korgnaizer
as well.  Thanks!

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[Debconf-discuss] Unclaimed DebConf10 tshirts?

[Obey Arthur Liu]

Hi,

I heard rumors on IRC that unclaimed DebConf10 tshirts could be
distributed/sold/thrown-in-the-crowd.
What about it? Can I haz one pretty please ? :)

Cheers
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf runners: (reminder) how about participate to a local 5K race during DebConf?

[Luca Capello]

Hi there!

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 12:37 -0400, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> I just renamed Penta event 533 ("DebConf Runs in Central Park") to
> "DebConf Runs in Van Cortland Park", and put it on the schedule as
> starting at 17:45.  it should show up in the public schedule shortly.

Thank you very much, Daniel.

Thx, bye,
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Virtualization?

[Daniel Kahn Gillmor]

On 08/01/2010 07:38 PM, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
>> John Goerzen dijo [Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 10:24:30AM -0400]:
>> I would not say I'm so knowledgeable, but am currently relying on
>> KVM and a mixture of vserver and openvz (migrating my vservers to
>> openvz). It is an interesting topic, so if Michael requestes the
>> ad-hoc session, I'll schedule it (and surely try to attend).
> 
> We've rescheduled based on consensus - please sechedule this ad-hoc
> session on day 5 (2010-08-05) in 414 Schapiro, 09:30-10:25 per the wiki.

This has been scheduled now, but for 477 CSB, as 414 Schapiro was
already full (and the wiki asked for 477 CSB anyway).  Please let me
know if there are any problems.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf10 Schedule App for Android

[Michael Prokop]

* John Goerzen  [Mon Aug 02, 2010 at 12:39:24AM -0400]:
> On 08/01/2010 11:09 PM, Michael Prokop wrote:

>> one developer in my Grml team decided to take the fosdem-android app
>> and adjust it for Debconf10. This means that there's an Android
>> application available to check out the official event schedule.

> Could I add a feature request?  I'd like to be able to see all events,
> regardless of room or tack, for a particular day, organized by time.  To
> ansewr the questions "what will I do at 2:00" or "where will I go now".

JFTR, I'm forwarding what Ulrich wrote to John and me:

, [ fwd mail body ]
| Hi,
| I implemented both your feature requests (upcoming events and show
| all events on a specific date). I hope its useful :)
|
| Have fun,
| Ulrich
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Virtualization?

[Michael Schultheiss]

Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote:
> On 08/01/2010 07:38 PM, Michael Schultheiss wrote:
> >> John Goerzen dijo [Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 10:24:30AM -0400]:
> >> I would not say I'm so knowledgeable, but am currently relying on
> >> KVM and a mixture of vserver and openvz (migrating my vservers to
> >> openvz). It is an interesting topic, so if Michael requestes the
> >> ad-hoc session, I'll schedule it (and surely try to attend).
> > 
> > We've rescheduled based on consensus - please sechedule this ad-hoc
> > session on day 5 (2010-08-05) in 414 Schapiro, 09:30-10:25 per the wiki.
> 
> This has been scheduled now, but for 477 CSB, as 414 Schapiro was
> already full (and the wiki asked for 477 CSB anyway).  Please let me
> know if there are any problems.

No problem - I noticed 414 was full and updated the wiki.




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Re: [Debconf-discuss] B and H Electronics

[John Goerzen]

On 08/02/2010 11:23 AM, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
> I am going to go to B and H Electronics [1] either today or tomorrow

Sounds excellent.  I have been buying from their website for years now. 
  I don't have a specific need, but I had considered going there too. 
If nothing else, would be nifty to see where the camera I am using came 
from.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Unclaimed DebConf10 tshirts?

[Gregory Colpart]

On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 12:22:00PM -0400, Obey Arthur Liu wrote:
> 
> I heard rumors on IRC that unclaimed DebConf10 tshirts could be
> distributed/sold/thrown-in-the-crowd.
> What about it? Can I haz one pretty please ? :)

I tried to buy one this morning without success :)
FD says me unclaimed T-shirts could be sold in few days.

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[Debconf-discuss] Debconf runners: report from the Aug 2nd run to GWB

[Christian PERRIER]

In short, going to George Washington Bridge is a good way to have a
nice scenery view of Manhattan.

So, 8 people gathered together this morning: Marga and Maxy, Roberto
Sanchez, Iustin Pop, Tim Retout, Gaudenz Steilin, Noèl Köthe and /me.

I screwed up slightly by trying to go down to the Hudson Greenway
immediately from Riverside Av. while it is not possible until 130th
St. or soso we ended up doing more ups and downs in the beginning,
including going through a wild path that was leading
nowhere. Apologies to fellow runners for this.

On the route to there, we unfortunately saw Marga and Maxy being
forced to wave us bye after a few kms, mostly because of this hard
start. Sorry, guys...and I hope you had fun anyway, as well as some
nice views of Hudson River.

The remaining 6 of us then went along the Greenway north to
GWB. Thankfully, Noèl already went there and he could sort out the
tricky labyrinth of streets to climb up to the bridge and then enter
the walway along the road.

Though quite noisy because of those damn cars, the view from the
bridge is quite awesome as one can see the entire Western part of
Manhattan up to the southmost part.

IMHO, that view is probably great at night. Can be a good place to go
on evenings after sunset by going north in train 1 up to 175th St then
walk 1 mile or 2 west through 177th St..

We crossed the bridge thenwent back..:-)

We apparently all managed to come back safe from this trip to Wild
Northern Manhattan and ended up having run something like 17km,
according to Noèl's Garmin (mine was driving me crazy by contantly
rebooting and didn't record anything...crap).

Tomorrow's run is likely to feature a visit to Central Park,
again. Slow pace and shorter distance will be the rule. Reaching the
Reservoir will be the goal, to enjoy the great NYC scenery from there...

PS: Noèl and I might have crazy ideas for the Day Trip. Going to Coney
Island by running seems to be a *too crazy* idea (the distance is
over 20 miles)but goign down Manhattant to Brooklyn Bridge, cross
it over and then catch a train there should be feasible.:)


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG Key Management Best Practices BoF

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 10:03:36PM -0500, Michael Shuler wrote:
> I volunteered to add an AdHoc Session and I'm thinking about the time
> slot just prior to the main KSP session on Friday evening - opinions?
> (it's a related topic and after looking through the rest of the
> schedule, I don't wish to step on any other talks)
> 
> The Carman dorm basement was suggested as a possibly good place to hold
> the KSP (not final, yet), so I'd like to have this BoF in the same location.
> 
> Discussion / debate could be about what are good best practices for key
> security, subkey usage, smartcards and USB keys, expiration, etc.
> 
> I am not an expert on the topic, so would enjoy learning more about how
> people manage their digital identity - you interested?  :)
> 
I have some experience with managing subkeys and I would be happy to
make a short presentation about it.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] List of attendees?

[Jonathan Wiltshire]

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 02:04:45PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> Is there a public (or protected) list of attendees for DC10, and if so where
> can it be found? It would be really nice to know who I should expect/seek
> to meet.

I don't know if this message got lost in the traffic but I haven't had any
replies - can someone enlighten me please?

Thanks

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] B and H Electronics

[Luca Capello]

Hi Biella!

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 11:23 -0400, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
> I am going to go to B and H Electronics [1] either today or tomorrow
> at some point in the afternoon to buy something.

Thank you for the news, please let me know when you plan to go, any time
will be fine for me, or I will *do* be fine ;-)

Thx, bye,
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf runners: (reminder) how about participate to a local 5K race during DebConf?

[Christian PERRIER]

Quoting Daniel Kahn Gillmor (d...@fifthhorseman.net):
> On 07/31/2010 04:16 PM, Luca Capello wrote:
> > On Sat, 2010-07-31 at 15:46 -0400, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> >>> So, recently, I got in touch with a local group of runners who happen
> >>> to organize a 5K (K stands for kilometers, not for thousands of
> >>> dollars in prizes) race every other Thursday not too far from the
> >>> DebConf venue. And, guess what? They'll have one on Aug 5th, so during
> >>> DebConf.
>  [...]
> > DCschedule does not show any event after 18:00 for that day, can we add
> > this event in Penta as well?
> > 
> >   http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/day_2010-08-05.en.html
> 
> I just renamed Penta event 533 ("DebConf Runs in Central Park") to
> "DebConf Runs in Van Cortland Park", and put it on the schedule as
> starting at 17:45.  it should show up in the public schedule shortly.
> 
> Christian, you should be able to update that event in Penta to put
> relevant details in the abstract/description.

Done.

Daniel, would you mind moving the event to 17:30-21:00? The race of
course doesn't last for so long but, including the journey and a
possible  something locally after the race, I'd rather give a right
time schedule And the start time would rather be 17:30 so that
even by being late by 5-10 minutes, we wouldn'tbe too in a hurry to be
on time in Van Cortlandt for 18:30 (the train ride is about 20-30
minutes from my experience on Sat...not including train waiting time).


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Bars in the Area

[Pablo Duboue]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:14 AM, David Moreno  wrote:
> 2: http://www.bohemianhall.com/

been there. It is big enough to fit all of DC10 attendees :-)

P.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] List of attendees?

[Steve Langasek]

On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 07:43:33PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 02:04:45PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> > Is there a public (or protected) list of attendees for DC10, and if so where
> > can it be found? It would be really nice to know who I should expect/seek
> > to meet.

> I don't know if this message got lost in the traffic but I haven't had any
> replies - can someone enlighten me please?

Although the pentabarf conference management system employed has the
capability, which we've made use of in years past, to expose people's travel
information on an opt-in basis, this has not been made available this year
for reasons that are absolutely opaque to me as an attendee.  If you want
people to know you're here, you can opt in to listing yourself on
; to
find other people who have already arrived, you can query the 'DCschedule'
bot on the #debconf IRC channel on OFTC; for people who have not yet arrived
(which represents a rapidly diminishing proportion as the week wears on), or
to see a whole list of attendees, you're SOL.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] B and H Electronics

[Gabriella Coleman]

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Luca Capello  wrote:
> Hi Biella!
>
> On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 11:23 -0400, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
>> I am going to go to B and H Electronics [1] either today or tomorrow
>> at some point in the afternoon to buy something.
>
> Thank you for the news, please let me know when you plan to go, any time
> will be fine for me, or I will *do* be fine ;-)
>

Super. Does 2 PM work for folks tomorrow? We can meet at the main
gates of 116th and Broadway.

Should be fun!

Biella
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf runners: report from the Aug 2nd run to GWB

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 02:39:23PM -0400, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> 
> Tomorrow's run is likely to feature a visit to Central Park,
> again. Slow pace and shorter distance will be the rule. Reaching the
> Reservoir will be the goal, to enjoy the great NYC scenery from there...
> 
Is the plan still to meet at 7:00 AM in front of Carman Hall?

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] B and H Electronics

[Luca Capello]

Hi there!

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 16:08 -0400, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Luca Capello  wrote:
> > On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 11:23 -0400, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
> >> I am going to go to B and H Electronics [1] either today or tomorrow
> >> at some point in the afternoon to buy something.
> >
> > Thank you for the news, please let me know when you plan to go, any time
> > will be fine for me, or I will *do* be fine ;-)

> Super. Does 2 PM work for folks tomorrow? We can meet at the main
> gates of 116th and Broadway.

Perfect for me.

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf runners: report from the Aug 2nd run to GWB

[Christian PERRIER]

Quoting Roberto C. Sánchez (robe...@connexer.com):
> On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 02:39:23PM -0400, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> > 
> > Tomorrow's run is likely to feature a visit to Central Park,
> > again. Slow pace and shorter distance will be the rule. Reaching the
> > Reservoir will be the goal, to enjoy the great NYC scenery from there...
> > 
> Is the plan still to meet at 7:00 AM in front of Carman Hall?


I might move that to 07:30, because of the C&W unknown end hour.

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[Debconf-discuss] Tonight's CS hack lab and front desk will be closed unless...

[Gabriella Coleman]

Hi folks,

So tonight no one has singed up for the front desk position, I bet due
to the wine and cheese party. I have no problem closing the back/CS
hack lab and the front desk early to accommodate the party. BUT if you
want to hack in the CS hack lab and/or really want to volunteer for
the FD write me back asap. If you can only offer one hour at the FD
that would help as well. The Carleton hack lab will stay open.

http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/Front_Desk_Sign-up

Sorry for the redundancy for those on announce as well.

Gabriella
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[Debconf-discuss] Video Team volunteer training - TONIGHT AT 8 PM

[Margarita Manterola]

Hi!

For all of those who want to help with the video team, doing camera
operation, sound mixing, managing the recordings, and also for those that
are going to be talk meisters: we need you, and we need you well trained.

We are meeting at 8 PM in Davis auditorium to have some training on all
that stuff.  PLEASE SHOW UP THERE AND THEN.

After we are done, we are going to be heading to the Cheese & Wine party,
which is at 9 PM.  So DON'T BE LATE.

Please let everybody interested know about this mail.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debconf runners: (reminder) how about participate to a local 5K race during DebConf?

[Daniel Kahn Gillmor]

On 08/02/2010 03:34 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Daniel, would you mind moving the event to 17:30-21:00? 

Done.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Tonight's CS hack lab and front desk will be closed unless...

[Michael Banck]

Hi,

On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 04:45:21PM -0400, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
> So tonight no one has singed up for the front desk position, I bet due
> to the wine and cheese party. I have no problem closing the back/CS
> hack lab and the front desk early to accommodate the party. BUT if you
> want to hack in the CS hack lab and/or really want to volunteer for
> the FD write me back asap. If you can only offer one hour at the FD
> that would help as well. The Carleton hack lab will stay open.
> 
> http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/Front_Desk_Sign-up
> 
> Sorry for the redundancy for those on announce as well.

I'd be happy to do frontdesk duty from 9:00-10:30 if somebody would take
over the rest of the slot, would that be possible?


Michael
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Cheese and Wine party tonight

[Andrew Lee]

Hi,

On 2010年08月02日 15:47, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> As a reminder to those people who don't know about it already, the
> traditional Cheese and Wine party will happen tonight (Monday 2nd) at
> 9pm, local time, in Havemeyer building.
> 
> All informations, including directions appear on
> http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/CheeseWineBoF

Some of you probably noticed that I bought some Taiwanese teas from
Taiwan for people who don't drink alcohol may also enjoy the C&W party.

However, we need teapot and hot water to making the teas. Does anyone
know how to borrow or where to get such thing during the party?

-Andrew
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Cheese and Wine party tonight

[Jonny Lamb]

On Mon, Aug 02, 17:25:48 -0400, Andrew Lee wrote:
> However, we need teapot and hot water to making the teas. Does anyone
> know how to borrow or where to get such thing during the party?

What luck:

http://retout.co.uk/blog/2010/07/31/tea

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Tonight's CS hack lab and front desk will be closed unless...

[Gabriella Coleman]

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Daniel E. Markle  wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 04:45:21PM -0400, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
>> want to hack in the CS hack lab and/or really want to volunteer for
>> the FD write me back asap. If you can only offer one hour at the FD
>
> I'd like to volunteer for this position as long as someone can show me the 
> ropes beforehand. I can do the 9p-12a shift. I presume I sign up in the 
> reception column?

Yep. We also have another volunteer as well. Michael. Do you still
want to take the first hour?

*Thanks* for your help,
Biella

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG Key Management Best Practices BoF

[Michael Shuler]

On 08/01/2010 09:50 PM, Adrian Knoth wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 04:44:33AM +0200, Judit Foglszinger wrote:
>>> My understanding is that those of us that are staying off-campus aren't
>>> permitted in the dorms, so that may not work out so well.  Is that an
>>> incorrect assumption?
>> The policy, they told to me was:
>> You can enter, but someone staying there has to sign you in,
>> and you must give an ID to the guard. 
> 
> Anyway, according to a post earlier this week, it's best to avoid
> "foreigners" in the dorms. So better choose an open location.

Thank you for the interest.  I am not certain if Anibal (ping!) has
worked any further on location for the KSP - Holger suggested the Carman
basement lounge as a possible room, but wherever the KSP will be held
we'll do this BoF the hour prior in the same place.

-- 
Kind regards,
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] (NEW TIME) B and H Electronics

[Gabriella Coleman]

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Luca Capello  wrote:
> Hi there!
>
> On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 16:08 -0400, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Luca Capello  wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 11:23 -0400, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
>> >> I am going to go to B and H Electronics [1] either today or tomorrow
>> >> at some point in the afternoon to buy something.
>> >
>> > Thank you for the news, please let me know when you plan to go, any time
>> > will be fine for me, or I will *do* be fine ;-)
>
>> Super. Does 2 PM work for folks tomorrow? We can meet at the main
>> gates of 116th and Broadway.


We will now be meeting at 1:30 PM at the main gates, tomorrow, Tuesday
August 3rd. Promise not to change the time. Feel free to email me off
list if you are interested in coming and we will wait for you!

Biella
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] Cheese and Wine party tonight

[Andrew Lee]

Hi Tim, (hi tea lovers)

Thanks Jonny for the info.

On 2010年08月02日 17:34, Jonny Lamb wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 02, 17:25:48 -0400, Andrew Lee wrote:
>> However, we need teapot and hot water to making the teas. Does anyone
>> know how to borrow or where to get such thing during the party?
> 
> What luck:
> 
> http://retout.co.uk/blog/2010/07/31/tea

Would you mind to bring all these good stuffs to C&W party for tea
lovers to enjoy the C&W party. :)

Cheers,

-Andrew
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Cheese, Wine material (and other stuff) for tomorrow's Cheese and Wine party

[Andrew Lee]

On 2010年08月01日 21:49, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> - 17:45

Oops, I missed the last  "cheese trips". I will meet you guys in front
of Mudd at 19:00.

-Andrew
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] (NEW TIME) B and H Electronics

[John Goerzen]

On 08/02/2010 05:46 PM, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
> We will now be meeting at 1:30 PM at the main gates, tomorrow, Tuesday
> August 3rd. Promise not to change the time. Feel free to email me off
> list if you are interested in coming and we will wait for you!

I may attend -- trying to decide whether to go there or to Debian for 
Enterprise Infrastructure and FAI...  Do you have an ETA for return to 
Columbia?

-- John
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[Debconf-discuss] Invitation to try amateur radio

[John Goerzen]

Hi folks,

I've made some contacts with random[1] New Yorkers here on amateur radio 
bands, from the campus of Columbia.

I have a handheld radio with me that works on several amateur radio 
bands.   If any of you are interested in using it to see who you might 
talk to -- and who knows how many or few you'll find -- I'll be happy to 
schedule a time where we can do that.  Note that it will need to be 
outdoors due to signal propagation needs.

There are some local repeater networks, and you can essentially talk 
with one or many people across a large part of New York state, New 
Jersey, and perhaps some surrounding states from a simple handheld here.

It is normally not legal to transmit on amateur bands unless you have a 
license, but if the transmitter is being directly supervised by a 
licensed ham that is physically present, those rules are relaxed.

There are quite a few digital modes that radio amateurs are involved in. 
  Debian has pretty good support for this.  Alas, I lack the proper 
cable for my handheld (which I may rectify if there is a suitable store 
nearby).  Digital amateur modes are pretty nifty, and range from 
anything from simple low-bps radioteletype all the way to TCP over 
radio.  Some of these digital modes can be used across continents with 
*no* intervening infrastructure other than your radio and the recipient's.

As someone else said, Amateur Radio and Free Software have somewhat 
similar mindsets.  Amateur is the only radio service I'm aware of that 
permits and encourages licensees to build their own radios and develop 
their own modes of communication.

-- John

[1] Well, somewhat random; the people you talk too have all passed a 
(not too difficult) licensing exam.  It's like Usenet before the Eternal 
September and the flamewars.  On second thought, it's not like Usenet at 
all ;-)
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] (NEW TIME) B and H Electronics

[Bruno Gurgel]

I`ll attend. =D

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:53 PM, John Goerzen  wrote:
> On 08/02/2010 05:46 PM, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
>> We will now be meeting at 1:30 PM at the main gates, tomorrow, Tuesday
>> August 3rd. Promise not to change the time. Feel free to email me off
>> list if you are interested in coming and we will wait for you!
>
> I may attend -- trying to decide whether to go there or to Debian for
> Enterprise Infrastructure and FAI...  Do you have an ETA for return to
> Columbia?
>
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[Debconf-discuss] Rent and ride a bike

[Thomas Lange]

I just want to share my experiences with renting a bike.

I went to 96th street at broadway to West Side Bicyles. Got a nice
bike but without a bike lock. They said, I would not need it, since the
bike would get stolen anyway, if I would leave it outside and go into
the cinema or somewehre else. So I had to purchase a lock, since I
wanted to have the bike for more than a day.

Riding a bike in New York is fun. I had no problems with the amount of
cars in the city nor with cars driving close to me. IMO it's a very
nice way to see a lot of places in NY, without walking to much or
always using the metro. For me, the best way of transportation.

I rented the bike for one day and 5 hours, but they charged me less
for less time. I had to pay 78$ roughly.
Locking the bike in front of carman over night also worked well - the
bike didn't disappeared :-)

The only obstacle^Wchallenge for me was, that the streets here are
more steep than in Cologne, where they are just flat.

If someone needs a bike lock for renting a bike, just contact me, you
can borrow mine for free.

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian Merchandise BoF?

[Luca Capello]

Hi there!

These is a report of the Merchandise BoF at DebConf10:

  http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/683.en.html
  http://wiki.debian.org/Merchandise/BoFDebConf10

First of all, thank you to anyone who attended the BoF, it was not only
interested, but also fun to discuss about the different ideas people had
to promote Debian through merchandise.

On Sun, 2010-08-01 at 12:29 -0400, Luca Capello wrote: 
> BTW2, should this be discussed in a more general mailing list?  I have
> just realized that there is no general debian-events@ mailing list, so I
> do not really know a better place...

I cc:ed the debian-publicity@ mailing list because during the meeting we
decided that the best place to continue discussing about merchandise
should be the Debian Marketing Team ,
which mailing list is... debian-public...@!  Before any flame, please
read the *full* mail, thanks in advance.

This very same mail will also be included in the BoF wiki page, if you
need to add something it would be better to both reply to this mail and
update the wiki page if the information belongs to the report as well.

Here we go!

> I have also created a DebConf10-specific wiki page for stuff to be
> discussed during the BoF:
> 
>   http://wiki.debian.org/Merchandise/BoFDebConf10

I think the best thing is to simply go through the different points.


1) general situation, who has what

Basically, this is already covered in the Wiki merchandise page I create
before the BoF .  There are mainly 4
different "entities" with merchandise stuff (Alexander Wirt, Debian
Brasil, debian.ch and Debian UK), plus Adrian von Bidder (umbrellas) and
Anto Recio & Holger Levsen (wine).  I vaguely remember someone
(Luciano?) pointed out that something was missing, in that case please
fill in the wiki page and put a note in the report on the BoF page.

It should be stressed out that not all of the merchandise present there
is actually available.  My idea was to have a general overview of what
we had, have and could have.  I do not think we need at this point a
more specific list, since I am quite sure the common (and well-selling)
merchandise (T-Shirts and foilstickers) is usually renewed/reproduced.


2) status of the official Debian merchandise page


Given that Debian itself does not sell any merchandise, it was clear
that we should not put any "direct" link on this page, i.e. no links to
the non-commercial organizations.

However, since "the information below is provided as a favor to our
loyal users", it was also clear that we should provide a link to a
non-commercial merchandise page, where our loyal users can find what is
available and how to buy it.  This can be the same wiki page of point 1)
above or another one, but it would be better not to have it hosted on
www.d.o, thus anyone can easily modify it.

We discussed shortly about the merchand...@debian.org address, but we
were not able to find out who actually receives this mail, thus we stop
at this point.  IMHO this address should be the primary resource for any
merchandise question, being it official/commercial or for booth/event
preparation.


3) sort of HowTo for booth people to complement the DebianEventsHowto

Thanks to the work done by I guess the Debian Publicity Team, we already
have a quite exhaustive wiki page
.  While in this page I have
already added a link to the merchandise wiki page, this is not enough.
Instead, we should complement that page (or create a new one) with
specific information on how to request/manage/return the merchandise.

Following the BoF, I had a discussion with Carl Chenet (together with
Xavier Oswald organizer of the Debian booth at the recent RMLL in
Bordeaux ) and Zack: we ended up with a possible
workflow.  Please bear in mind that nothing has been decided yet, on the
contrary everything must be discussed with the different teams involved
(Marketing, Publicity and Events, if it ever exists one).

People organizing booth should deal with a single specific entity and
they should be able to simply request for a booth box.  Obviously Debian
will cover any shipping costs, for both receiving and sending
back what was not sold.

This booth box should contain a pre-defined set of merchandise stuff:
T-Shirts, flyers (e.g. ) and so
on.  For a better (and in some case also professional) booth experience,
Debian could also provide booth infrastructure, i.e. foldable containers
for flyers or foldable poster standers [sorry for the names, I do not
have any idea how these are called in English, I hope you can get
them!].

Given the fact that most of the conferences take place either in the
Americas or in Europe, there should be two different boxes and thus at
least two different people in charge.  This will also assure a sort of
redundancy to requests.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] (NEW TIME) B and H Electronics

[Luca Capello]

Hi John!

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 19:53 -0400, John Goerzen wrote:
> On 08/02/2010 05:46 PM, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
> > We will now be meeting at 1:30 PM at the main gates, tomorrow, Tuesday
> > August 3rd. Promise not to change the time. Feel free to email me off
> > list if you are interested in coming and we will wait for you!
> 
> I may attend -- trying to decide whether to go there or to Debian for 
> Enterprise Infrastructure and FAI...  Do you have an ETA for return to 
> Columbia?

I must be back for Faidon's event at 16:00 (videoteam duties).  And
anyway I am looking for a specific thing, a 1-to-2 2.5mm-to-3.5mm
headphone adapter, thus if there is none I will simply go back ;-)

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca


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Re: [Debconf-discuss] B and H Electronics

[vedran]

nice, i'm coming too...

: )

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Luca Capello  wrote:

> Hi there!
>
> On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 16:08 -0400, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Luca Capello  wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 11:23 -0400, Gabriella Coleman wrote:
> > >> I am going to go to B and H Electronics [1] either today or tomorrow
> > >> at some point in the afternoon to buy something.
> > >
> > > Thank you for the news, please let me know when you plan to go, any
> time
> > > will be fine for me, or I will *do* be fine ;-)
>
> > Super. Does 2 PM work for folks tomorrow? We can meet at the main
> > gates of 116th and Broadway.
>
> Perfect for me.
>
> Thx, bye,
> Gismo / Luca
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] (NEW TIME) B and H Electronics

[Ian Lawrence]

Hi,

> I must be back for Faidon's event at 16:00 (videoteam duties).  And
> anyway I am looking for a specific thing, a 1-to-2 2.5mm-to-3.5mm
> headphone adapter, thus if there is none I will simply go back ;-)

I am looking for something specific also. I want a GSM stick modem
preferably an Option ICON 225. Biella seems to think that this might
be something they would have there so i will tag along and ask.

Regards



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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Virtualization?

[Chris Knadle]

On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 02:16:07PM -0400, micah anderson wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 08:08:41 -0700, Russ Allbery  wrote:
> > John Goerzen  writes:
> > 
> > > One topic of interest to me is virtualization.  We've been using Xen for
> > > awhile, and have had some issues with its state in squeeze, and are
> > > looking at KVM.  There was a big discussion on -devel about this a few
> > > months back.  I'd be interested in hearing what others are doing with
> > > virtualization and where we see it heading in Debian.  Is anyone
> > > knowledgeable about these things here, and willing to share?
> 
> I'd be interested in this as well, I'm using a hybrid of Xen,
> Linux-Vservers, and KVM. I have some understanding of the plans on the
> kernel-side and some experiences and problems I've had I'd be interested
> in sharing and learning from people.
> 
> m

Over time I've been doing a mixture of Qemu, VirtualBox, and now KVM.  
Recent updates in VirtualBox (at least in Testing/Sid) allow for running 
VMs in both VirtualBox and KVM at the same time (previously they 
conflicted).

The nice thing about VirtualBox is that it allows running any OS in it.  
KVM is limited in what it will run (generally just Linux distributions, 
AFAIK), but the nice thing is that when it works the OS in the VM runs 
at about 80% - 85% of native speed.  This is why it's nice to be able to 
run both KVM and VirtualBox at the same time -- so you can get the speed 
of KVM where it's usable, and use VirtualBox for running the other OSes.

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[Debconf-discuss] local printers? (was Re: Key signing)

[Aaron M. Ucko]

Adnan Hodzic  writes:

> That's what I was planning of doing, also is there any official
> "debconf" printers on the campus?

I never saw an answer to this, and didn't have much luck with the
hostnames on the sign in Carleton; IIRC, only one of them resolved,
and it didn't appear to be running cupsd.  Any tips?

(FWIW, I was trying to print a new badge barcode generated via

gpg --fingerprint ... | sed -ne '/=/s/[^0123456789ABCDEF]//gp'

because my badge only gave the fingerprint of my old key, which I'd
like to retire once I get enough of you to sign the new one. ;-)

Thanks!

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Virtualization?

[Ben Hutchings]

On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 23:47 -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 02:16:07PM -0400, micah anderson wrote:
> > On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 08:08:41 -0700, Russ Allbery  wrote:
> > > John Goerzen  writes:
> > > 
> > > > One topic of interest to me is virtualization.  We've been using Xen for
> > > > awhile, and have had some issues with its state in squeeze, and are
> > > > looking at KVM.  There was a big discussion on -devel about this a few
> > > > months back.  I'd be interested in hearing what others are doing with
> > > > virtualization and where we see it heading in Debian.  Is anyone
> > > > knowledgeable about these things here, and willing to share?
> > 
> > I'd be interested in this as well, I'm using a hybrid of Xen,
> > Linux-Vservers, and KVM. I have some understanding of the plans on the
> > kernel-side and some experiences and problems I've had I'd be interested
> > in sharing and learning from people.
> > 
> > m
> 
> Over time I've been doing a mixture of Qemu, VirtualBox, and now KVM.  
> Recent updates in VirtualBox (at least in Testing/Sid) allow for running 
> VMs in both VirtualBox and KVM at the same time (previously they 
> conflicted).
> 
> The nice thing about VirtualBox is that it allows running any OS in it.  
> KVM is limited in what it will run (generally just Linux distributions, 
> AFAIK),
[...]

You are confused.  KVM relies on hardware virtualisation and its guests
should be able to run any OS that the host can run natively.  Xen also
now supports this as an alternative to paravirtualisation.  On older
processors KVM cannot be used and Xen is limited to running
paravirtualised guests.

Ben.

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[Debconf-discuss] no debconf wireless in Davis

[Holger Levsen]

Hi,

the debconf ESSID was introduced in Davis 8h before Debian Day started. 
Unfortunatly it breaks the video, both streaming and recording.

So those guruplugs will be gone tomorrow (actually they are already) and thus 
the debconf ESSID will be gone. There will still be wireless via the Columbia 
wireless lan, which worked very well for me so far. Personally I've never 
used the debconf ESSID here :-)

There is time to improve this situation on wednesday, when no talks are 
scheduled. I'll be on a boat then :-p


cheers,
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] B and H Electronics

[Kevin Mark]

look for the small bowls full of candy while there.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Food & baseball tickets

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:18 AM, John Goerzen  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My wife and sons (ages 1 and 3.5, but only the older one will eat their
> food) would like to join me for dinner at John Jay Tuesday evening.
> Where can I go to buy them access: front desk, the cafeteria itself, or
> other?
>
> Secondly, what about baseball tickets?  Do we all have them
> automatically?  And how can I buy extras for my family there?  (So they
> can sit in the "Debian section")
>
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the front desk is where you can buy extra food tickts but I dont know
about food for young kids.

Clint would know about the baseball ticket×
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Cheese, Wine material (and other stuff) for tomorrow's Cheese and Wine party

[Kevin Mark]

iirc room  726 (7th fl) havermyer is the room.
you walk past shapiro (talk building),  go turn left towards the
center of campus for a 50 ft and then you will see a building on your
right labeled havermyer. its a chemistry building.
enter and proceed right, and find elevator to 7th fl.
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Some quieter bars and cafes

[Gunnar Wolf]

Hector Oron dijo [Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 09:51:47PM +0200]:
> > We visited Amsterdam restarurant last night in desperation, and
> > found:
> > 
> >  - draft ales
> >  - excellent food
> >  - wall power by tables
> >  - free wireless, no key required
> > 
> > There was fairly loud music by midnight though, so it may be just quiet in
> > the day time.
> 
> I do not remember very well.. ;-)
> ... but yes, seems like a great place.

FWIW, when I was about to meet the DebConf delegation there after my
9:00-12:00 shift at front-desk, I found them as a hungry and
desperate-looking group lurking the streets in search for
shelter. They looked certainly pathetic and compassion-inspiring - I
think that's because Amsterdam closes at 12AM.

They were hungry and thirsty. I was only thirsty. Besides, I was
riding a bike, which they didn't have - And I feared that, given their
condition, they would try to steal my bike (which is, worse of all,
lent by a good friend!) and sell it for food+beer, so I quickly head
back to 114th street.

Upon my arrival, I met with yet another unfortunate group of
exilees. They were happy exilees, all in all, as they carried precious
b33r on them - And looked as thirsty as myself! They were arguing,
though, with the Carman dorms' guard.

The guard explained that he was not allowed to see them entering the
premises with alcohol. And they had some beer. And if they drank on
the street, they would surely be fined+arrested by the local cops. Oh,
the dilemma! Good thing that I arrived just then, on my bike, with my
DebConf bag hanging 'round my neck.

So, right away -and in front of the guard- they deprived me of my bag,
gently allowing me to keep its contents, and "hid" the beers inside of
it. I agreed to their extortion in exchange for a beer or three. The
guard agreed that he was no longer seeing the beers enter the
building. And we had a very good night chat at the basement.

So, in short: If you want to get the beers, go to the small
supermarket across Broadway - but don't forget to bring your DebConf
bag along. After all, that's why it was given to you! In future years,
the orga team will explore handing out the shirts and local
information in small, beer-shaped brown paper bags.

PS- Has anybody seen my bag? It seems to have got lost after
yesterday's night at the basement...
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Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG Key Management Best Practices BoF

[Gunnar Wolf]

Michael Shuler dijo [Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 10:03:36PM -0500]:
> I volunteered to add an AdHoc Session and I'm thinking about the time
> slot just prior to the main KSP session on Friday evening - opinions?
> (it's a related topic and after looking through the rest of the
> schedule, I don't wish to step on any other talks)
> 
> The Carman dorm basement was suggested as a possibly good place to hold
> the KSP (not final, yet), so I'd like to have this BoF in the same location.
> 
> Discussion / debate could be about what are good best practices for key
> security, subkey usage, smartcards and USB keys, expiration, etc.
> 
> I am not an expert on the topic, so would enjoy learning more about how
> people manage their digital identity - you interested?  :)

FWIW, I have been waiting and willing for other people to come up and
exchange signatures. That has still not happened, not even once. I
know that I have cross-signed with many of the usual suspects last
year in Cáceres (I started using a 4096R key back then)... But so far,
the one-to-one keysigning is IMO inexistent. I will try to (find time
to) get it kickstarted tomorrow.

Also FWIW, I do not plan to take part on any massive key signing
party. I do not really believe they add up to our keyring's real trust
- It's much better to cross-sign people based on you knowing them
rather than on identifying their passport. I am more than willing to
sign whatever the people I have come to meet i.e. as Daniel Gilmore,
Richard Darst, Jeremy Baron, Kevin Mark, or several others I've really
met and worked with during the past week without seeing their
respective IDs than a random person I have never met that shows me
their passport.
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