SSH fails - Connection refused

2002-02-01 Thread tuukka



Hi!

I got this still problems with starting SSHD. I tried with Cygrunsrv but I get 
bored to it's errors:


$ sshd -D -d -d
 debug1: Seeding random number generator
 /etc/sshd_config line 49: Deprecated option CheckMail
 debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_2.9.9p2
 Could not load host key: /etc/ssh_host_key
 Could not load host key: /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key
 Could not load host key: /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key
 Disabling protocol version 1. Could not load host key
 Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key
 sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting.





I use now FireDaemon. SSHD starts but when I tried to use it, it fails:

$ ssh -v -v -v localhost
OpenSSH_2.9p2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090600f
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh_config
debug1: Applying options for *
debug1: Seeding random number generator
debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted.
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: ssh_connect: getuid 1007 geteuid 1007 anon 1
debug1: Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 22.
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 1007/1000 (e=1007)
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 1007/1000 (e=1007)
debug1: connect: Connection refused
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: Trying again...
debug1: Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 22.
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 1007/1000 (e=1007)
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 1007/1000 (e=1007)
debug1: connect: Connection refused
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: Trying again...
debug1: Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 22.
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 1007/1000 (e=1007)
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 1007/1000 (e=1007)
debug1: connect: Connection refused
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: Trying again...
debug1: Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 22.
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 1007/1000 (e=1007)
debug1: restore_uid
debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 1007/1000 (e=1007)
debug1: connect: Connection refused
debug1: restore_uid
Secure connection to localhost refused.

I have made keys (about 1.000. times) but still fails.

tumaljon@JKNEMUCLI04 /etc
$ ls -la
total 182
drwxrwxrwt6 Administ None 4096 Feb  1 09:15 .
drwxrwxrwt   10 Administ None 4096 Jan 30 11:43 ..
-rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None76980 Oct  1 09:24 Muttrc
drwxrwxrwt2 Administ None0 Jan 30 11:42 cron.d
-rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None  280 Jan 24 11:12 group
-rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None 1898 Oct  1 09:24 mime.types
-rw-rw-rw-1 tumaljon Administ  971 Feb  1 09:14 passwd
drwxrwxrwt2 Administ None0 Jan 24 11:12 postinstall
-rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None26287 Jul 11  2001 primes
-rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None  420 Jan 24 11:12 profile
drwxrwxrwt2 Administ None40960 Jan 30 11:47 setup
-rw-rw-rw-1 tumaljon Administ 1123 Feb  1 09:15 ssh_config
-rw---1 SYSTEM   SYSTEM672 Jan 24 11:47 ssh_host_dsa_key
-rw-r--r--1 SYSTEM   Administ  610 Jan 24 11:47 ssh_host_dsa_key.pub
-rw---1 SYSTEM   SYSTEM535 Jan 24 11:47 ssh_host_key
-rw-r--r--1 tumaljon SYSTEM339 Jan 24 11:47 ssh_host_key.pub
-rw---1 SYSTEM   SYSTEM887 Jan 24 11:47 ssh_host_rsa_key
-rw-r--r--1 SYSTEM   Administ  230 Jan 24 11:47 ssh_host_rsa_key.pub
-rw-rw-rw-1 tumaljon Administ 1202 Feb  1 09:15 sshd_config
drwxrwxrwt2 Administ None0 Jan 24 12:57 ssmtp
-rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None12306 Aug 26 05:40 termcap
-rwxrwxrwx1 Administ None 3956 Jan 22  2001 wgetrc


Is there some problems with permissions? I'm trying to log as tumaljon.

GGHHRR!!!  Please help!

-Tuukka




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Re: gcc broken in 1.3.9 ?

2002-02-01 Thread Pavel Tsekov

Maybe you haven't installed the gcc or binutils package. To  bring
everything back to normal just run again the setup.exe program and
make sure you select both binutils and gcc packages. If the problem
still persists you have to attach the output of the failing build
and send it to the list.

Phil Smith wrote:

> After installing Cygwin 1.3.9, I found I could no longer compile any 
> sources with gcc. I installed it on top of a Cygwin 1.3.3 installation 
> which I have been using for many months to build successfully port new 
> versions of gdb, tcl, tk and a very large set of application code. What 
> might be the problem ?



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Re: Can't create new file/directory

2002-02-01 Thread Pavel Tsekov



Derek M. Tournear wrote:

> OK here is some more info:

[ snip ]


> When I start cygwin and go into any directory with any permissions set,
> and try to mkdir new or touch new (or any name for that matter) I get 
> [EQUULEUS] temp 24% touch new
> touch: creating `new': Permission denied
> [EQUULEUS] temp 25%
> OR
> [EQUULEUS] temp 26% mkdir new
> mkdir: cannot create directory `new': Permission denied
> [EQUULEUS] temp 27%


Are you running the commands from within the cygwin bash shell or
from the NT command interpreter ?

Please, provide the output of the following commands 'which touch' and 
'which mkdir'. I see you have a hell of a PATH environment on your 
system and also you have uwin which provides this tools (touch, mkdir) 
too. Also there is this strange C:\NTWORK~1\COMMON\COMMON folder which 
cntains some unix tools too (ls.exe for example and maybe more) - and it 
also precedes the occurance of the cygwin bin directory in your PATH. 
And there is the cygwinb19.dll in the window system dir which makes me 
think that the tools in the C:\NTWORK~1\COMMON\COMMON may be linked
against this old version of the cygwin emulation dll.

All this means exactly one thing - TROUBLE! A simple thing you can try
to do - move the cygwin bin directory in the beginning of you PATH
variable and then try to create dir or touch files again.


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Re: problems with gdbm ????

2002-02-01 Thread Godefroid Chapelle


>At 13:24 30/01/2002, Jason Tishler wrote:
>
>>Godefroid,
>>
>>On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 09:29:17AM +0100, Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
>> > >When trying the test_gdbm.py of Python 2.2, I get a
>> > >
>> > >gdbm fatal: read error
>> > >
>> > >message.
>> > >
>> > >Can someone point me a resource which could help me ?
>>
>>Sorry, but the following may not be of much help...
>>
>>Since I'm the Cygwin Python maintainer, I frequently run the regression
>>test suite.  I have never had a test_gdbm failure.  Possibly this is
>>because I run exclusively with binary mode mounts, NT/2000, NTFS, and
>>ntsec.  What is your setup?
>
>
>/, /usr/bin and /usr/lib were previously mounted as text (I did not know 
>anything of binary versus text).
>
>I am now able to run testgdbm.exe which is supplied with the gdbm c package.
>As I stated on cygwin list, I previously got CPU load more than 95%  when 
>trying this test.
>
>test_gdbm.py is also working now...
>
>
>
>Thanks a lot. 





>>HTH,
>>Jason

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Re: security.cc: bug report, question and suggestion

2002-02-01 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 10:07:36PM -0500, Pierre A. Humblet wrote:
> I saw that, but my editor is not setup for your tab settings and for
> your C indent style. You probably wouldn't like it if I were to apply
> my style. Do you have a standard setup, e.g. for emacs?

It's using standard 8 char wide tabs.  I'm using vi with `set ts=8
set sw=2', that's all.  The tab setting should work with all
editors in default setting.  The formatting used is consistent with
http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards_toc.html.

> >Could you please resubmit your patch with these changes to the
> >cygwin-patches mailing list?  And would you mind to send a copyright
> >assignment form as described on http://cygwin.com/contrib.html?
> 
> The fix involves deleting 3 lines and 1 word. Rather than exchanging
> diff files that you will need to apply and review anyway, wouldn't 
> it faster for both of us if you were to apply the change directly 

What's the problem to create a good style patch, even if it consists
of only three or four lines?  Sigh.  I don't like to argument about
that stuff.  It's ok for now.

> (not to mention fiddling my editor style)? Similarly I thought that
> only "significant" changes needed a copyright form (I'll send one if
> Red Hat really needs it!).

I hoped to get an assignment from you so that we never have to ask
for that later.  Is it a problem for you to assign copyright?

Corinna

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RE: CVS and SSL support

2002-02-01 Thread C. R. Oldham

> Can you provide me instructions how to use ssl with CVS? Do 
> you mean that setting CVS_RSH to  would do?

Yes, set CVS_RSH to /usr/bin/ssh.  Then set
CVSROOT=:ext:yourusername@yourcvshost:/yourcvsroot.

It works really well in conjunction with ssh-agent--if you have your
keys setup right you can do cvs work without having to enter passwords
all the time.

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[ANNOUNCEMENT] Updated: ash-20020131-1

2002-02-01 Thread Corinna Vinschen

I've updated the version of ash in cygwin/latest to 20020131-1.

This version contains the man page for ash now.

To update your installation, click on the "Install Cygwin now" link on
the http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin web page.  This downloads setup.exe
to your system.  The, run setup and answer all of the questions.

Note that we do not allow downloads from sources.redhat.com (aka
cygwin.com) due to bandwidth limitations.  This means that you will need
to find a mirror which has this update.

In the US, ftp://mirrors.rcn.net/mirrors/sources.redhat.com/cygwin/ is a
reliable high bandwidth connection.

In Germany,
ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/pc/gnuwin32/cygwin/mirrors/cygnus/ is
usually pretty good.

In the UK,
http://programming.ccp14.ac.uk/ftp-mirror/programming/cygwin/pub/cygwin/
is usually up-to-date within 48 hours.

If one of the above doesn't have the latest version of this package then
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Re: GCC and getcwd

2002-02-01 Thread Barubary

> >This is not the Unix way to do things. The Unix API does not provide any
way for a process to find out where its executable image is located (it
might not exist anymore!) See:
> >http://www.erlenstar.demon.co.uk/unix/faq_2.html#SEC23

This isn't the Windows NT way to do things, either.  Processes only in name
have an EXE associated with them.  It is the fact that kernel32.dll's
CreateProcessW implements process creation by using memory-mapped files with
the EXE that associates an EXE filename with a process (and locks the EXE
file against writing or deleting).

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Re: SSH fails - Connection refused

2002-02-01 Thread Chuck Messenger

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Hi!
>
>I got this still problems with starting SSHD. I tried with Cygrunsrv but I get 
>bored to it's errors:
>
>
>$ sshd -D -d -d
> debug1: Seeding random number generator
> /etc/sshd_config line 49: Deprecated option CheckMail
> debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_2.9.9p2
> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh_host_key
> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key
> Could not load host key: /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key
> Disabling protocol version 1. Could not load host key
> Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key
> sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting.
>
Looks like you didn't run ssh-host-config, since you don' t have any 
host keys.  You also need to run ssh-user-config.


- Chuck





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bug in /etc/profile.d/openssl.csh

2002-02-01 Thread Ralph Sperschneider

Dear all,

within the current distribution (downloaded today), I found a bug in 
/etc/profile.d/openssl.csh. Here, the last line should be "endif" rather than "fi". 

Due to this bug the tcsh is not running properly.

I would appreciate if this bug could be fixed by the appropriate maintainer in the 
near future.

Best regards,

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Is there any way to get a UNC path to be 'mounted' from cygwin ?

2002-02-01 Thread Jean-Marc Paulin

Is there any way to get a UNC path to be 'mounted' from cygwin ?

I am trying something like:

$ mount \\netapp.dev.net/package/windows/devel /usr/devel

mount does not complain, but I cannot access /usr/devel

any hints ?

JM


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Re: Is there any way to get a UNC path to be 'mounted' from cygwin ?

2002-02-01 Thread Olaf Foellinger

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 02:40:01PM -, Jean-Marc Paulin wrote:
> Is there any way to get a UNC path to be 'mounted' from cygwin ?
> 
> I am trying something like:
> 
> $ mount \\netapp.dev.net/package/windows/devel /usr/devel
> 
> mount does not complain, but I cannot access /usr/devel

mount \\ /tmp

works here. 


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Re: Is there any way to get a UNC path to be 'mounted' from cygwin ?

2002-02-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)

At 09:40 AM 2/1/2002, Jean-Marc Paulin wrote:
>Is there any way to get a UNC path to be 'mounted' from cygwin ?
>
>I am trying something like:
>
>$ mount \\netapp.dev.net/package/windows/devel /usr/devel
>
>mount does not complain, but I cannot access /usr/devel
>
>any hints ?



Sure.  See 

http://cygwin.com/cygwin-ug-net/using.html#AEN452

for an example of valid syntax for UNC paths within bash/sh.


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Re: gcc broken in 1.3.9 ?

2002-02-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)

At 03:47 AM 2/1/2002, Pavel Tsekov wrote:
>Maybe you haven't installed the gcc or binutils package. To  bring
>everything back to normal just run again the setup.exe program and
>make sure you select both binutils and gcc packages. If the problem
>still persists you have to attach the output of the failing build
>and send it to the list.
>
>Phil Smith wrote:
>
>>After installing Cygwin 1.3.9, I found I could no longer compile any sources with 
>gcc. I installed it on top of a Cygwin 1.3.3 installation which I have been using for 
>many months to build successfully port new versions of gdb, tcl, tk and a very large 
>set of application code. What might be the problem ?



Hm.  Unless something is broken or there was a cockpit error, installing
gcc should install binutils by default via setup.  Is this not the case?


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Re: bug in /etc/profile.d/openssl.csh

2002-02-01 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 02:41:49PM +0100, Ralph Sperschneider wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> within the current distribution (downloaded today), I found a bug in 
>/etc/profile.d/openssl.csh. Here, the last line should be "endif" rather than "fi". 

Check your mirror or use another one.  The current version is
openssh-0.9.6c-3 from 2002-01-16.  It has that bug already fixed.

Corinna

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Re: Cygwin as a telnet command shell...

2002-02-01 Thread Andrew Markebo

ARRGGHHH People ar asking questions about x on the cygwin-list, and
questions about cygin on the cygwin-x list.. :-)

Well yes it is possible.. either modify the win2k telnet deamon
configuration on which proggie to run..

Or install the cygwin telnetd/sshd, if my memory doesn't fail me, it
is mentioned how to do it in the documentation of the inetutils/inetd
package.. 

/Andy

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| 
| I am running telnet server on Win2000. Does anyone know how to make cygwin
| my default shell when logged-in from telnet ?
| 
| thanks
| 
| JM
| 
| 

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Re: security.cc: bug report, question and suggestion

2002-02-01 Thread Pierre A. Humblet

Corinna Vinschen wrote:

> It's using standard 8 char wide tabs.  I'm using vi with `set ts=8
> set sw=2', that's all.  The tab setting should work with all
> editors in default setting.  The formatting used is consistent with
> http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards_toc.html.
OK, it's not what I use but I'll see what I can do in emacs. I think
there is a gnu style.

> I hoped to get an assignment from you so that we never have to ask
> for that later.  
Ah, but I am pretty sure you have one already (a few years back).

> Is it a problem for you to assign copyright?
Not at all. In this case it's more a "deleteright".
An interesting distinction for lawyers.

Pierre

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RE: GCC and getcwd

2002-02-01 Thread Francis Harvey

Greetings,

I was pretty sure it was a conceptual problem, so thanks to
everybody for confirmation.  Now, I simply have my wrapper
WinBatch program pass the path to its executable which is
guaranteed to be in the same folder as the text file I am
looking for.

Curiously, up till this point, I had assumed that because
I was passing paths in my programs parameters that they were
being corrected so escape character sequences wouldn't occur
in the string.  However, now I load all of the paths my
program needs from a single text file without any corrections
and my files still open even though I thought the single
slashes would indicate escape sequences.  It works anyway.
Weird.

Thanks again.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Francis Harvey 
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:21 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: GCC and getcwd
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> This isn't directly a cygwin question, but hopefully somebody has a
> suggestion or a new topic I should search on:
> 
> I have a working C program created with GCC 2.95.2-6 and Cygwin
> dll 1.1.7.  I realize both of these are a little old, but I think
> I have a conceptual problem rather than a version issue.
> 
> I want to find the current directory that the executable file is in,
> so I can open a text file in the same directory.  The executable
> is on the k drive, but my code doesn't return the correct path:
> 
> /* Begin code sample */
> main()
> {
> FILE *testfile;
> char buffer[100];
> int size = 100;
> 
> testfile = fopen("c:\\windows\\desktop\\test.txt","w");
> getcwd(buffer,size);
> fprintf(testfile,"buffer = %s\n",buffer);
> }
> /* End code sample */
> 
> which returns:
> buffer = /cygdrive/c/WINDOWS/DESKTOP
> 
> I am probably using the wrong function or possibly need to look
> at a Windows-based group of functions?
> 
> TIA for any ideas.
> 
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Re: gcc broken in 1.3.9 ?

2002-02-01 Thread Pavel Tsekov



Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:

> At 03:47 AM 2/1/2002, Pavel Tsekov wrote:
> 
>>Maybe you haven't installed the gcc or binutils package. To  bring
>>everything back to normal just run again the setup.exe program and
>>make sure you select both binutils and gcc packages. If the problem
>>still persists you have to attach the output of the failing build
>>and send it to the list.
>>
>>Phil Smith wrote:
>>
>>
>>>After installing Cygwin 1.3.9, I found I could no longer compile any sources with 
>gcc. I installed it on top of a Cygwin 1.3.3 installation which I have been using for 
>many months to build successfully port new versions of gdb, tcl, tk and a very large 
>set of application code. What might be the problem ?
>>>
> 
> 
> 
> Hm.  Unless something is broken or there was a cockpit error, installing
> gcc should install binutils by default via setup.  Is this not the case?

What if Phile left gcc in te skip state ?  Well maybe I've assumed too
much :( Still I hope he will provide the output of the build.


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Re: gcc broken in 1.3.9 ?

2002-02-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)

At 10:11 AM 2/1/2002, Pavel Tsekov wrote:


>Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
>
>>At 03:47 AM 2/1/2002, Pavel Tsekov wrote:
>>
>>>Maybe you haven't installed the gcc or binutils package. To  bring
>>>everything back to normal just run again the setup.exe program and
>>>make sure you select both binutils and gcc packages. If the problem
>>>still persists you have to attach the output of the failing build
>>>and send it to the list.
>>>
>>>Phil Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>
After installing Cygwin 1.3.9, I found I could no longer compile any sources with 
>gcc. I installed it on top of a Cygwin 1.3.3 installation which I have been using for 
>many months to build successfully port new versions of gdb, tcl, tk and a very large 
>set of application code. What might be the problem ?
>>
>>Hm.  Unless something is broken or there was a cockpit error, installing
>>gcc should install binutils by default via setup.  Is this not the case?
>
>What if Phile left gcc in te skip state ?  Well maybe I've assumed too
>much :( Still I hope he will provide the output of the build.


That would be helpful.  Still, it's unclear how he has gcc and not binutils
if he skipped the gcc installation.  More information is needed about what
he installed and didn't install and how he installed it.  But this 
information may prove academic.  Simply rerunning setup and installing
gcc, double-checking that binutils is installed too as part of this should
be all that's necessary to resolve the problem.  This is a specific 
application of the very good rule of thumb "if you don't see it after the
first install, install again and make sure it's selected for installation".



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changing default text type without reinstall?

2002-02-01 Thread Steinar Bang

Platform: CygWin 1.3.2, CygWin/XFree86 4.1.0, Win2k

Is it possible to change from text type "Unix" to text type "DOS",
without reinstall?

Will changing the text type give cygwin/xfree86 problems?

Is it possible to make cygwin cvs do line ending conversion, without
changing the default text type of the entire cygwin installation?

Thanx!


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auctex can only see .tex files in HOME directory

2002-02-01 Thread Markus Hoenicka

Hi,

I could not reproduce this problem on my home box. I updated the
Cygwin installation yesterday, and I use AucTeX 10.0.g, Emacs 21.1,
and Cygwin's teTeX.

What shell do you use to run the TeX commands in Emacs? How did you
set it up?

regards,
Markus

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 > I recently updated my Cygwin distribution and now aucTeX will only
 > work on documents (i.e. .tex files) in my HOME directory.  If I use
 > LaTeX from the Cygwin shell then things work fine, as they did before I
 > installed the updated distribution.  (I.e. I can LaTeX files in their local
 > directories).

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Re: problems with gdbm ????

2002-02-01 Thread Charles Wilson

Okay, it looks like we have confirmation that gdbm is not fully ported 
w.r.t. text/binary issues.  (Its inclusion in the official distribution 
predated the *requirement* that this be completed -- at the time it was 
only a suggestion).   So, I hereby solicit patches that change
   open(, "r") to open(, "rb")
   open(, "w") to open(, "wb")  etc.
and
   fopen(, FLAGS) to fopen(, FLAGS | O_BINARY)
at all **appropriate** places in the gdbm code.

Thanks,
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volunteer gdbm maintainer for cygwin.

Godefroid Chapelle wrote:

> 
>> At 13:24 30/01/2002, Jason Tishler wrote:
>>
>>> Godefroid,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2002 at 09:29:17AM +0100, Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
>>> > >When trying the test_gdbm.py of Python 2.2, I get a
>>> > >
>>> > >gdbm fatal: read error
>>> > >
>>> > >message.
>>> > >
>>> > >Can someone point me a resource which could help me ?
>>>
>>> Sorry, but the following may not be of much help...
>>>
>>> Since I'm the Cygwin Python maintainer, I frequently run the regression
>>> test suite.  I have never had a test_gdbm failure.  Possibly this is
>>> because I run exclusively with binary mode mounts, NT/2000, NTFS, and
>>> ntsec.  What is your setup?
>>
>>
>>
>> /, /usr/bin and /usr/lib were previously mounted as text (I did not 
>> know anything of binary versus text).
>>
>> I am now able to run testgdbm.exe which is supplied with the gdbm c 
>> package.
>> As I stated on cygwin list, I previously got CPU load more than 95%  
>> when trying this test.
>>
>> test_gdbm.py is also working now...
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks a lot. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Jason
>>
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Re: security.cc: bug report, question and suggestion

2002-02-01 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:08:49AM -0500, Pierre A. Humblet wrote:
> Ah, but I am pretty sure you have one already (a few years back).

Really?  That's a good thing.  I don't have a list of all the
people who already sent an assignment, unfortunately.

> > Is it a problem for you to assign copyright?
> Not at all. In this case it's more a "deleteright".
> An interesting distinction for lawyers.

Theoretically.  Lawyers could write a book about that, probably.

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Re: cvs question

2002-02-01 Thread S.Yoshida
 '\r' character in ~/.cvsrc.

rm  ~/.cvsrc

and all cvs command succeed.

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Re: Cygwin as a telnet command shell...

2002-02-01 Thread Jean-Marc Paulin

Well,

> ARRGGHHH People ar asking questions about x on the cygwin-list, and
> questions about cygin on the cygwin-x list.. :-)

Oops...

> Well yes it is possible.. either modify the win2k telnet deamon
> configuration on which proggie to run..

Tried this, but I then get an error about stderr that cannot be created, and
no command prompt...

> Or install the cygwin telnetd/sshd, if my memory doesn't fail me, it
> is mentioned how to do it in the documentation of the inetutils/inetd

I cannot find the damn telnet daemom ... :(
that's too bad

JM

- Original Message -
From: "Andrew Markebo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jean-Marc Paulin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: Cygwin as a telnet command shell...


>
>
> Or install the cygwin telnetd/sshd, if my memory doesn't fail me, it
> is mentioned how to do it in the documentation of the inetutils/inetd
> package..
>
> /Andy
>
> / "Jean-Marc Paulin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Hi,
> |
> | I am running telnet server on Win2000. Does anyone know how to make
cygwin
> | my default shell when logged-in from telnet ?
> |
> | thanks
> |
> | JM
> |
> |
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Re: Cygwin as a telnet command shell...

2002-02-01 Thread Peter Buckley



Jean-Marc Paulin wrote:

> Well,
> 
> 
>>ARRGGHHH People ar asking questions about x on the cygwin-list, and
>>questions about cygin on the cygwin-x list.. :-)
>>
> 
> Oops...
> 
> 
>>Well yes it is possible.. either modify the win2k telnet deamon
>>configuration on which proggie to run..
>>
> 
> Tried this, but I then get an error about stderr that cannot be created, and
> no command prompt...
> 
> 
>>Or install the cygwin telnetd/sshd, if my memory doesn't fail me, it
>>is mentioned how to do it in the documentation of the inetutils/inetd
>>
> 
> I cannot find the damn telnet daemom ... :(
> that's too bad



If you downloaded and installed inetutils, telnetd should be in 
/usr/sbin/. And the doc /usr/doc/Cygwin/inetutils1.x.x.README will tell 
you how to configure inetd with iu-config and then telnetd runs by 
default when you startup inetd.

HTH,
Peter


> JM
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andrew Markebo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Jean-Marc Paulin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Cygwin as a telnet command shell...
> 
> 
> 
>>
>>Or install the cygwin telnetd/sshd, if my memory doesn't fail me, it
>>is mentioned how to do it in the documentation of the inetutils/inetd
>>package..
>>
>>/Andy
>>
>>/ "Jean-Marc Paulin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>| Hi,
>>|
>>| I am running telnet server on Win2000. Does anyone know how to make
>>
> cygwin
> 
>>| my default shell when logged-in from telnet ?
>>|
>>| thanks
>>|
>>| JM
>>|
>>|
>>
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Cron v3.0.1-5 setup issue w/ Cygwin v1.3.6

2002-02-01 Thread Craig Rees

Hey Cron Experts,

I using Cygwin version:
CYGWIN_NT-5.0 PVLCRAIGR 1.3.6(0.47/3/2) 2001-12-08 17:02 i686 unknown and 
I'm trying to get Cron running on 3 machines, WinNT w/ SP6 and Win2K, but 
having pretty much the same problem on all.  Cron runs, but fails to launch 
the crontab processes.  Looks like a configuration issue, but with what?


I can get the service running just fine by using the following:

   cygrunsrv -I cron -d "Cygwin CRON" -p /usr/sbin/cron -a '-D' cygrunsrv -S 
cron

  or

   cygrunsrv -I "Cygwin cron" -p /usr/sbin/cron -a '-D' -e "CYGWIN=ntsec" 
cygrunsrv --start "Cygwin cron"

   NOTE: I've also tried the "-p" option with the full pathname to 
C:/PerVigil/usr/sbin/cron


Used a simple crontab -e to add:

   * * * * * /usr/bin/date > $HOME/date.log
   * * * * * echo "Hello from CRON" > /tmp/echo.log


But always receive the following messages in the event viewer:

1.   The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( /usr/sbin/cron )could 
not be found. It contains the following insertion string(s): /usr/sbin/cron 
: Win32 Process Id = 0xB1 : Cygwin Process Id = 0xB1 :(trendadm) CMD 
(/usr/bin/date > $HOME/date.log).

2.   The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( /usr/sbin/cron )could 
not be found. It contains the following insertion string(s): /usr/sbin/cron 
: Win32 Process Id = 0xFA : Cygwin Process Id = 0xFA :
(trendadm) CMD (echo "Hello from CRON").

3.   The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( sSMTP mail )could not be 
found. It contains the following insertion string(s): sSMTP mail : Win32 
Process Id = 0x1AA : Cygwin Process Id = 0x168 : No ssmtp.conf in 
/etc/ssmtp.

(Now granted, I haven’t enabled the mail server yet.)

4.   The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( sSMTP mail )could not be 
found. It contains the following insertion string(s): sSMTP mail : Win32 
Process Id = 0x1AA : Cygwin Process Id = 0x168 : unable to locate host 
mailhost..

5.   The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( sSMTP mail )could not be 
found. It contains the following insertion string(s):sSMTP mail : Win32 
Process Id = 0x1AA : Cygwin Process Id = 0x168 : can't open the smtp port 
(0) on mailhost..

6.   The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( /usr/sbin/cron )could 
not be found. It contains the following insertion string(s): /usr/sbin/cron 
: Win32 Process Id = 0x1B1 : Cygwin Process Id = 0x1B1 :
(trendadm) MAIL (mailed 16 bytes of output but got status 0x).


I've been thru the web site and tried to read all the threads and docs, but 
I'm completely stumped.

I know it's not an issue with finding /usr/sbin/cron.  The commands by 
themselves run fine in Bash, however my path is:

PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/system32:/cygdrive/c/WINNT:/cygdrive/c/WINNT/System32/Wbem:/cygdrive/c/Winnt/Commands:/cygdrive/c/Program
 
Files/Sybase/Sybase 
Central/win32:/cygdrive/c/trend/sybase_11.9.2/ASEP:/cygdrive/c/trend/sybase_11.9.2/DLL:/cygdrive/c/trend/sybase_11.9.2/BIN:.:/cygdrive/c/TREND/TREND_4.0/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:.:/cygdrive/c/Appls/SecureCRT
 
3.0


My startup cygwin.bat is:

@echo off
C:
chdir \TREND\TREND_4.0\PerVigil\bin
bash --login -i


/etc/passwd consists of:

Everyone:*:0:0:,S-1-1-0::
SYSTEM:*:18:18:,S-1-5-18::
Administrators:*:544:544:,S-1-5-32-544::
Administrator:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:500:513:U-PVLDELL22\Administrator,S-1-5-21-15877441-981
097223-622671684-500:/home/Administrator:/bin/bash
Guest:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:501:513:U-PVLDELL22\Guest,S-1-5-21-15877441-981097223-622671684-501:/home/Guest:/bin/bash
trendadm:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:1001:513:trendadm,U-PVLDELL22\trendadm,S-1-5-21-15877441-981
097223-622671684-1001:/home/trendadm:/bin/bash

/etc/group consist of:
Everyone:S-1-1-0:0:
SYSTEM:S-1-5-18:18:
None:S-1-5-21-15877441-981097223-622671684-513:513:
Administrators:S-1-5-32-544:544:
Backup Operators:S-1-5-32-551:551:
Guests:S-1-5-32-546:546:
Power Users:S-1-5-32-547:547:
Replicator:S-1-5-32-552:552:
Users:S-1-5-32-545:545:


Any ideas or suggestions.  Thanks very much.

- - -CraigRees
PerVigil, Inc.
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Re: How do i upgrade to gcc 3.X on cygwin?

2002-02-01 Thread Andrea 'Fyre Wyzard' Bocci

At 08.37 31/01/2002 (GMT +), Mack Lobell wrote:
>i only want the c and c++ parts. My build was configured with the 
>following flags:
>../../gcc-3.0.3/configure --with-included-gettext --enable-languages=c,c++
>--enable-shared --enable-threads --target=powerpc-eabi 
>--host=i686-pc-cygwin --build=i686-pc-cygwin --with-newlib

 From your configure options, it looks like you are building a cross compiler.
If his is the case, you should first build a local 3.0.3 compiler 
(./configure ..., make bootstrap, make install), then use the 3.0.3 system 
compiler to build the 3.0.3 cross compiler.

P.S.
I don't know if you also need updated binutils.
In any case, you need to compile them as a cross tool.

fwyzard


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cygwin license

2002-02-01 Thread Info

is cygwin GPL? is it free or not? How do i get it?
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RE: FW: Updated: rxvt-2.7.2-8

2002-02-01 Thread Roth, Kevin P.

1st - thanks for the very specific instruction. I would probably have
never figured that out on my own, unless it's already in an FAQ
somewhere. I did look in the Cygwin FAQ and didn't see it. (Any chance
this could be added to the FAQ?). 

2nd - is there any handy little tool out there that would have helped me
figure out that my PC's "DELETE" key sends the "sequence?" of meta-[3~?

3rd - I guess my real question was this - if cygwin is *always* used on
a windows PC, shouldn't the version of readline that's distributed with
cygwin be able to handle the delete key the same way that other
windows/cmd.exe apps do, out of the box, with no requirement for a user
to find this setting and add it to ~/.inputrc?

4th - Thanks for the detailed notes. I appreciate the comments.


Personal rant - This is probably the biggest reason I get along a bit
better in windows than Unix - how do I ever figure out that ESC,[,3,~ is
what happens when I hit my "delete" key, then how do I find which file
to put the rebinding in, then how do I figure out that ESC maps to \M-,
then what is the name of the command to bind to (delete-char in this
case), and on and on.  

If you throw in the ability to telnet to a unix host from multiple
environments (mac, pc, dumb tube) with different keyboard layouts, and
you throw in multiple Unix(-like) host environments
(Irix,Unix,Linux,Cygwin) it's enough to drive a person mad, especially
one like me that doesn't remember details like these very easily.
Figuring out any issue of this nature involves reading several different
programs' man pages (assuming I can guess which one), and possibly
learning hardware details too. 

Thanks,
--Kevin



-Original Message-
From: Randall R Schulz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 6:00 PM

Kevin,

...

Now that we do have readline-enabled "command line" applications, BASH
or 
other shells being the most salient in this context, a line like this in

your .inputrc will achieve the results you desire:

"\M-[3~":   delete-char

(Note: that corresponds to ESC, [, 3, ~ coming from the keyboard")


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Re: Bug in new Bison parser generator

2002-02-01 Thread David Gluss

The switches for which compiler is compiling the output of Bison
are in the bison.simple or bison.hairy file.  There isn't any pre-
configuration to set up which compiler you will be using...what you're
trying to do is to generate portable C or C++ code.
The problem is that the compiler switching in bison.simple used to
work, and now it doesn't.  The patch is very small and simple.
Indeed if you compile with gcc, you won't have a problem.
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Subject: Re: Bug in new Bison parser generator


> Just a quick question, isn't the base problem somehthing like Bison
> thinks that the target compiler is gcc.. 
> 
> If you create/configure a bison for msvc++, it doesn't do this include?
> 
> /Andy 
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Re: cygwin license

2002-02-01 Thread Peter Buckley

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Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Andrew DeFaria

Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find 
the mail list deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy 
causing me to wade through all this email for topics I'm interested in. 
Secondly there's no easy or convenient way to response to individual 
issues (I get a digest of cygwin stuff emailed to me). Seems to me that 
nntp was designed specifically for such communications and a number of 
companies have set up news servers for such things.

Finally a number of times I receive a digest speaking of topics and 
articles but the email message is apparently truncated and the bodies of 
these articles are missing.

Comments? (I'm sure there will be some).



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Re: Cron v3.0.1-5 setup issue w/ Cygwin v1.3.6

2002-02-01 Thread Corinna Vinschen

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:21:21AM -0600, Craig Rees wrote:
>   * * * * * /usr/bin/date > $HOME/date.log
>   * * * * * echo "Hello from CRON" > /tmp/echo.log
> 
> 
> But always receive the following messages in the event viewer:
> 
> 1.   The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source ( /usr/sbin/cron )could 
> not be found. It contains the following insertion string(s): /usr/sbin/cron 
> : Win32 Process Id = 0xB1 : Cygwin Process Id = 0xB1 :(trendadm) CMD 
> (/usr/bin/date > $HOME/date.log).
> [...]

Did you try to redirect stderr as well?

* * * * * /usr/bin/date > $HOME/date.log 2>&1

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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Randall R Schulz

Andrew,

A newsgroup won't change the signal-to-noise ratio nor alleviate effort on 
your part in sorting it all out.

Don't get the digest and you'll have solved all the digest-related problems.

Avail yourself of the abilities of mail clients to sort incoming message 
into different mailbox files. Any mail client worth its salt can do this, 
including some of the free / open-source ones.

Randall Schulz
Mountain View, CA USA


At 09:59 2002-02-01, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find the 
>mail list deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy 
>causing me to wade through all this email for topics I'm interested in. 
>Secondly there's no easy or convenient way to response to individual 
>issues (I get a digest of cygwin stuff emailed to me). Seems to me that 
>nntp was designed specifically for such communications and a number of 
>companies have set up news servers for such things.
>
>Finally a number of times I receive a digest speaking of topics and 
>articles but the email message is apparently truncated and the bodies of 
>these articles are missing.
>
>Comments? (I'm sure there will be some).


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Fw: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread hongxun lee

A great idea..

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew DeFaria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:59 PM
Subject: Why not a news server?


> Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find 
> the mail list deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy 
> causing me to wade through all this email for topics I'm interested in. 
> Secondly there's no easy or convenient way to response to individual 
> issues (I get a digest of cygwin stuff emailed to me). Seems to me that 
> nntp was designed specifically for such communications and a number of 
> companies have set up news servers for such things.
> 
> Finally a number of times I receive a digest speaking of topics and 
> articles but the email message is apparently truncated and the bodies of 
> these articles are missing.
> 
> Comments? (I'm sure there will be some).
> 
> 
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RE: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Daniel Adams

I will be the first one to make a comment of a NNTP server for hosting this
group and possibly the other groups for Cygwin, isn't that after all what a
NNTP group is designed for. I would be one to second Andrew's idea because
of the idea that often times I am in need of searching about a certain idea
in the archives and not only does it bring up the relative needed
information, it also brings up stuff from many years back.

Sincerely,
Daniel Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~dpa3

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serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of Andrew DeFaria
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:00 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Why not a news server?


Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find
the mail list deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy
causing me to wade through all this email for topics I'm interested in.
Secondly there's no easy or convenient way to response to individual
issues (I get a digest of cygwin stuff emailed to me). Seems to me that
nntp was designed specifically for such communications and a number of
companies have set up news servers for such things.

Finally a number of times I receive a digest speaking of topics and
articles but the email message is apparently truncated and the bodies of
these articles are missing.

Comments? (I'm sure there will be some).



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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)

At 12:59 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find the mail list 
>deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy causing me to wade through 
>all this email for topics I'm interested in. Secondly there's no easy or convenient 
>way to response to individual issues (I get a digest of cygwin stuff emailed to me). 
>Seems to me that nntp was designed specifically for such communications and a number 
>of companies have set up news servers for such things.
>
>Finally a number of times I receive a digest speaking of topics and articles but the 
>email message is apparently truncated and the bodies of these articles are missing.
>
>Comments? (I'm sure there will be some).


Well at least it's been years since this topic came up.  It used to come
up every few months. :-(  

OK, there are differences now compared to when this topic was last
discussed so maybe it warrants "discussion".  However, I'd highly 
recommend that anyone that wishes to discuss this review the email list
archives.  I think it was generally agreed that no one objected to the
use of a news server so long as it didn't replace the email list.

In this context, I believe the main reason that a news server has never 
been implemented is that no one has volunteered to set one up and run it.
So, I guess if you're interested in having one, you can have one if you
or someone else is willing to do the work to create and maintain it.
Not to sound too pessimistic but pointing out this fact in the past was
enough to kill the thread... for a while.





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RFK Partners, Inc.  http://www.rfk.com
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Re: changing default text type without reinstall?

2002-02-01 Thread Michael A Chase

- Original Message - 
From: "Steinar Bang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 07:35
Subject: changing default text type without reinstall?


> Platform: CygWin 1.3.2, CygWin/XFree86 4.1.0, Win2k
> 
> Is it possible to change from text type "Unix" to text type "DOS",
> without reinstall?

mount --help

> Will changing the text type give cygwin/xfree86 problems?

I don't know, but probably not.

> Is it possible to make cygwin cvs do line ending conversion, without
> changing the default text type of the entire cygwin installation?

I'm not familiar enough with CVS to comment on this.

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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Peter Buckley

I like the mailing list. I don't have a news server at work, so I 
wouldn't be able to access a newsgroup like we are discussing. I have no 
problem searching the mailing list archives with google- I wasn't aware 
that there was a date at which the MLA were truncated- I have seen stuff 
a few years back IIRC. I tried a different mailing list with a "digest 
version" and it was awful- I won't try any digests any time soon, I 
simply wipe out my cygwin-email folder when it gets around 1000 messages 
and rely on the archives.

-Peter

Daniel Adams wrote:

> I will be the first one to make a comment of a NNTP server for hosting this
> group and possibly the other groups for Cygwin, isn't that after all what a
> NNTP group is designed for. I would be one to second Andrew's idea because
> of the idea that often times I am in need of searching about a certain idea
> in the archives and not only does it bring up the relative needed
> information, it also brings up stuff from many years back.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Daniel Adams - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://dana.ucc.nau.edu/~dpa3
> 
>   1 Peter 4:10 (NIV)-  Each one should use whatever gift he has received to
> serve others, faithfully administering God's grace in its various forms.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of Andrew DeFaria
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Why not a news server?
> 
> 
> Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find
> the mail list deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy
> causing me to wade through all this email for topics I'm interested in.
> Secondly there's no easy or convenient way to response to individual
> issues (I get a digest of cygwin stuff emailed to me). Seems to me that
> nntp was designed specifically for such communications and a number of
> companies have set up news servers for such things.
> 
> Finally a number of times I receive a digest speaking of topics and
> articles but the email message is apparently truncated and the bodies of
> these articles are missing.
> 
> Comments? (I'm sure there will be some).
> 
> 
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Telnet Daemon and Win2k Telnet Client

2002-02-01 Thread Daniel Adams

I have noticed that when I try to connect to my computer via telnet that I
have setup correctly using the cygwin stuff from a computer using the Win2k
telnet client that does the following as an example:

CYGWIN_NT-5.0 1.3.9(0.51/3/2) (dur-700) (tty0)

login: dan

Password:
Login incorrect
login:

The only thing is that it does not give me an opportunity to enter in a
password into the prompt to login.

Has anyone else noticed this type of behavior from the two programs. What is
interesting though is that no other combination of client server that
includes one of the two (cygwin server/win2k client) will give this same
type of problem.

Sincerely,
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recent rshd/mkpasswd

2002-02-01 Thread Bruce Dobrin

I've been noticing lately ( post 1.3.2 I beleive)  that the result of
mkpasswd -d doesn't allow me to perform non-interactive
rsh or rcp's.

example:
dobrin@GABLE3:/etc> rsh gable3 ls
gable3: Permission denied.

But if I use my previous passwd file  (I generate these proceduraly nightly
on a 1.3.2 machine,  then dist to all of my other machines) everything works
fine:

dobrin@GABLE3:/etc> rsh gable3 ls -al
total 38333
drwxrwxrwx   10 Administ Domain A12288 Jan  9 17:11 .
drwxrwxrwx  834 Administ Domain A   172032 Dec 11 17:52 ..
-rwxrwxrwx1 Administ Domain A  284 Jun  8  2001 .ICEauthority
-rwxrwxrwx1 Administ Domain A 5834 Jan 30 17:39 .bash_history
-rwxrwxrwx   10 Administ Domain A 6913 May  4  2001 .cshrc
-rwxrwxrwx1 Administ Domain A  747 Jan 30 17:58 .history
(etc)

The relevant passwd entries are:

dobrin@GABLE3:/etc> grep dobrin passwd.1.3.2
dobrin::11014:10512:Brucester,S-1-5-21-501104421-1911818820-14498641-1011:/h
ome/dobrin:/bin/bash
dobrin@GABLE3:/etc> grep dobrin passwd.1.3.9
dobrin:unused_by_nt/2000/xp:11014:10512:Brucester,U-PRODUCTION\dobrin,S-1-5-
21-501104421-1911818820-14498641-1011:/home/dobrin:/bin/bash

CYGWIN variable :  binmode tty ntsec

I haven't found anything on the list about changes,  but I've also been
having problems lately getting complete listings when I do a google search
(for instance I just did a google search of "dobrin site:cygwin.com" and it
didn't bring up any of my recent list additions  I hope I haven't asked
so many stupid questions that I'm being filtered:))

Thanks for any help




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Bison.simple bug with MSVC

2002-02-01 Thread David Gluss

My fix was hasty.  Here is a better one.
DG




bisonbug.tar.bz2
Description: Binary data

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RE: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Stephano Mariani

Why should a news server replace a mailing list? Has someone seen the
PHP mailing list recently? All items on the list are also put on a news
server automatically, likewise with news items being posted to the
mailing list subscribers so that users have both options.

Stephano Mariani

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
Of Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
Sent: Friday, 1 February 2002 6 25
To: Andrew DeFaria; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why not a news server?

At 12:59 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find
the mail list deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy
causing me to wade through all this email for topics I'm interested in.
Secondly there's no easy or convenient way to response to individual
issues (I get a digest of cygwin stuff emailed to me). Seems to me that
nntp was designed specifically for such communications and a number of
companies have set up news servers for such things.
>
>Finally a number of times I receive a digest speaking of topics and
articles but the email message is apparently truncated and the bodies of
these articles are missing.
>
>Comments? (I'm sure there will be some).


Well at least it's been years since this topic came up.  It used to come
up every few months. :-(  

OK, there are differences now compared to when this topic was last
discussed so maybe it warrants "discussion".  However, I'd highly 
recommend that anyone that wishes to discuss this review the email list
archives.  I think it was generally agreed that no one objected to the
use of a news server so long as it didn't replace the email list.

In this context, I believe the main reason that a news server has never 
been implemented is that no one has volunteered to set one up and run
it.
So, I guess if you're interested in having one, you can have one if you
or someone else is willing to do the work to create and maintain it.
Not to sound too pessimistic but pointing out this fact in the past was
enough to kill the thread... for a while.





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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Andrew DeFaria

Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:

> At 02:06 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>
>> Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
>>
>>> OK, there are differences now compared to when this topic was last 
>>> discussed so maybe it warrants "discussion". However, I'd highly 
>>> recommend that anyone that wishes to discuss this review the email list
>>> archives.
>>
>> See that's just the thing. AFAIK searching the email list archives is 
>> not convenient nor easy.
>
> Have you tried it? Just curious since you preface your statement with 
> AFAIK, which implies you don't have personal experience. I won't 
>  suggest that looking in the mail list archives is not trying at 
> times. It's usually most frustrating when you look for something that 
> isn't indexed the way you think of it. AFAIK a news server doesn't 
> make that easier but I have no experience searching on a news server. 
> In any case, I, like others in the discussions of yore, have no 
> objections to a  news server for the Cygwin list in addition to the 
> mail list. I think if someone stepped forward to create and maintain 
> one, no one would object  to it's announcement on the Cygwin list.

Yes I've tried it. It's OK. Really don't like the "threading" as per se. 
Often get lost trying to track down a thread. No news servers do not 
make searching that much more easier but IMHO they make discussing 
things much more easier, which is, after all, what this list is about, 
discussing Cygwin.

And again, currently this is not very convenient. For example, Larry 
here emailed me directly at my work email address about this topic. I 
hit reply and replied to him. But our discussion did not go to the 
Cygwin mail list. I noticed, just as it was too late, that I forgot to 
add on the [EMAIL PROTECTED], so you all didn't get that first response. 
Then Larry emails me again, continuing our discussion of this issue. 
This time I remembered. As I said email is not conducive to discussions, 
which is why news and news servers exist no? Also, as has been stated, 
it's a big waste of bandwidth and space to send everybody a copy of the 
thread, especially since rarely is anybody interested in all of it.

>>> I think it was generally agreed that no one objected to the use of a 
>>> news server so long as it didn't replace the email list.
>>>
>>> In this context, I believe the main reason that a news server has 
>>> never been implemented is that no one has volunteered to set one up 
>>> and run it. So, I guess if you're interested in having one, you can 
>>> have one if you or someone else is willing to do the work to create 
>>> and maintain it. Not to sound too pessimistic but pointing out this 
>>> fact in the past was enough to kill the thread... for a while.
>>
>> Creating it and maintaining it is one thing. Getting the equipment 
>> and connection to have it accessable is another. But that is not 
>> necessary, why not simply have something lick comp.os.cygwin?!?
>
> Similar suggestions were made in the past. Would you like to get the 
> ball rolling by going through the process of creating the group?

Well there's a downside to this too. You see a comp.os.cygwin group 
would be great in general. But in specific my company doesn't have a 
news server either. So I could not read the comp.os.cygwin news group at 
work (where I need it more) save using something like groups.google.com 
or something else like that (which I hate). I can, however, read news 
from say Netscape and Microsoft and other company hosted news groups. 
And you don't need to be big to have company hosted news groups. For 
example, Twelve Tone Systems (makers of Cakewalk, a music sequencing 
program) have a news server as well as even individual, not so company 
oriented places like Steve Gibson's grc.com And Julian Haight's 
spamcop.net.. However such a news server needs to be hosted and I do not 
have the resources to host such (unless ya'll want to hit my DSLed 
Windows XP box at my house and will chip in for a new hard drive! :-).


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Re: gcc broken in 1.3.9 ?

2002-02-01 Thread Phil Smith


I actually saved the entire distribution to disk, removed the old c:/cygwin 
and c:/winnt/cygwin1.dll and installed with NOTHING skipped, and had the 
same problem.

FYI: It is installed on NT 4.0 SP 5. I have been running as Administrator. 
Also, I've used Cygwin for 6 years and ported dozens of applications / 
utilities, so I don't consider myself a novice to the Cygwin environment.

Phil Smith

>From: "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Pavel Tsekov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: Phil Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: gcc broken in 1.3.9 ?
>Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 10:21:49 -0500
>
>At 10:11 AM 2/1/2002, Pavel Tsekov wrote:
>
>
> >Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
> >
> >>At 03:47 AM 2/1/2002, Pavel Tsekov wrote:
> >>
> >>>Maybe you haven't installed the gcc or binutils package. To  bring
> >>>everything back to normal just run again the setup.exe program and
> >>>make sure you select both binutils and gcc packages. If the problem
> >>>still persists you have to attach the output of the failing build
> >>>and send it to the list.
> >>>
> >>>Phil Smith wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> After installing Cygwin 1.3.9, I found I could no longer compile any 
>sources with gcc. I installed it on top of a Cygwin 1.3.3 installation 
>which I have been using for many months to build successfully port new 
>versions of gdb, tcl, tk and a very large set of application code. What 
>might be the problem ?
> >>
> >>Hm.  Unless something is broken or there was a cockpit error, installing
> >>gcc should install binutils by default via setup.  Is this not the case?
> >
> >What if Phile left gcc in te skip state ?  Well maybe I've assumed too
> >much :( Still I hope he will provide the output of the build.
>
>
>That would be helpful.  Still, it's unclear how he has gcc and not binutils
>if he skipped the gcc installation.  More information is needed about what
>he installed and didn't install and how he installed it.  But this
>information may prove academic.  Simply rerunning setup and installing
>gcc, double-checking that binutils is installed too as part of this should
>be all that's necessary to resolve the problem.  This is a specific
>application of the very good rule of thumb "if you don't see it after the
>first install, install again and make sure it's selected for installation".
>
>
>
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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)

At 03:49 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
>
>>At 02:06 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>>
>>>Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
>>>
OK, there are differences now compared to when this topic was last discussed so 
>maybe it warrants "discussion". However, I'd highly recommend that anyone that wishes 
>to discuss this review the email list
archives.
>>>
>>>See that's just the thing. AFAIK searching the email list archives is not 
>convenient nor easy.
>>
>>Have you tried it? Just curious since you preface your statement with AFAIK, which 
>implies you don't have personal experience. I won't  suggest that looking in the mail 
>list archives is not trying at times. It's usually most frustrating when you look for 
>something that isn't indexed the way you think of it. AFAIK a news server doesn't 
>make that easier but I have no experience searching on a news server. In any case, I, 
>like others in the discussions of yore, have no objections to a  news server for the 
>Cygwin list in addition to the mail list. I think if someone stepped forward to 
>create and maintain one, no one would object  to it's announcement on the Cygwin list.
>
>Yes I've tried it. It's OK. Really don't like the "threading" as per se. Often get 
>lost trying to track down a thread. No news servers do not make searching that much 
>more easier but IMHO they make discussing things much more easier, which is, after 
>all, what this list is about, discussing Cygwin.


OK, that's fine.  It just wasn't clear to me whether you used it or not,
based on your response.


>And again, currently this is not very convenient. For example, Larry here emailed me 
>directly at my work email address about this topic. I hit reply and replied to him. 
>But our discussion did not go to the Cygwin mail list. I noticed, just as it was too 
>late, that I forgot to add on the [EMAIL PROTECTED], so you all didn't get that first 
>response. Then Larry emails me again, continuing our discussion of this issue. This 
>time I remembered. As I said email is not conducive to discussions, which is why news 
>and news servers exist no? Also, as has been stated, it's a big waste of bandwidth 
>and space to send everybody a copy of the thread, especially since rarely is anybody 
>interested in all of it.


Actually, I think the problem was at your end.  I replied to all so my
response (originally) went to the list (and you).  You probably got two
responses.  When you replied, you didn't reply to all, so only I got the 
response.  Unlike allot of other frequent responders to the list, I don't 
reset my 'Reply-To' field to point to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I respond.  
It's just a choice.  I don't object to anyone doing this (or not).  I also 
don't generally redirect email that folks send directly to me back to the 
list.  Again, I have no problem with folks doing that.  I just don't 
generally myself (for reasons that aren't really germane to this thread).

However, I would like to point out that while these are good arguments 
for having a news server for Cygwin, I don't believe that the Cygwin
community needs to be convinced of this.  So long as there is the option
of using either the news server or the mailing list (or both), I think 
most would agree that it is a win for everybody.  So I don't think anybody
needs to justify the argument.  That's been done before as well.  What has 
been missing in the past has been the 'follow-up' to the discussion of the 
news server.  So, just so it's clear, the reason we don't already have a 
news server is that no one was interested *enough* to set one up and 
maintain it, although there has always seemed to be quite a bit of 
interest in discussing the need or desire to have a news server.  


I think it was generally agreed that no one objected to the use of a news server 
>so long as it didn't replace the email list.

In this context, I believe the main reason that a news server has never been 
>implemented is that no one has volunteered to set one up and run it. So, I guess if 
>you're interested in having one, you can have one if you or someone else is willing 
>to do the work to create and maintain it. Not to sound too pessimistic but pointing 
>out this fact in the past was enough to kill the thread... for a while.
>>>
>>>Creating it and maintaining it is one thing. Getting the equipment and connection 
>to have it accessable is another. But that is not necessary, why not simply have 
>something lick comp.os.cygwin?!?
>>
>>Similar suggestions were made in the past. Would you like to get the ball rolling by 
>going through the process of creating the group?
>
>Well there's a downside to this too. You see a comp.os.cygwin group would be great in 
>general. But in specific my company doesn't have a news server either. So I could not 
>read the comp.os.cygwin news group at work (where I need it more) save using 
>something like groups.google.com or something else l

Fw: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Greg Mosier

> From: "Andrew DeFaria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Why not a news server?
>
> Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find
> the mail list deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy
> causing me to wade through all this email for topics I'm interested in.
> Secondly there's no easy or convenient way to response to individual
> issues (I get a digest of cygwin stuff emailed to me). Seems to me that
> nntp was designed specifically for such communications and a number of
> companies have set up news servers for such things.
>
> Finally a number of times I receive a digest speaking of topics and
> articles but the email message is apparently truncated and the bodies of
> these articles are missing.
>
> Comments? (I'm sure there will be some).

You ask why not?  Let me answer that with a question.  How many people do
you know that have a news reader but don't have an email client?  Chances
are that it's slim to none while on the other hand you'll have a great
number of people that don't have a news reader but do have email.  Using a
news server for something that people aren't forced to use will limit your
subscriber base simply because there are those, such as myself, that just
don't have the time to fool with finding a good reader, learn it, and then
use it accordingly. As they say, two heads are better than one, but when you
start using a format that
is foreign to a majority of the internet masses you're going to start
limiting your creative pool.  Just to belay the comments on this, no one
needs to suggest that Outlook Express comes with a news reader because I've
toyed with it, and from my experience and from what I've been told by
others, it's a joke of a reader.

As for your issue with corrupted messages, why not just switch to regular
delivery and setup your mail client to move all messages from this list into
a folder of it's own?  A good email client will even sort email messages
based on subject similar to that of the method a news server stores
messages.  It's just my opinion, but as far as I can see the only real
advantage to using 'news' instead of a listserv is that you're not wasting
bandwidth on people that aren't even reading the list.

Regards,
Greg Mosier




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RE: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)

Actually, I didn't say that the news server should or has to replace the 
email list.  I personally don't believe that is the case at all.
I was simply reiterating the major concern of the previous discussions on 
this subject.  If the new server did replace the list, it was clear that
at least some members of the Cygwin community would perceive this as a 
loss.  So the conclusion was that the news server must be *in addition
to* the Cygwin email list, not replacing it.  There was never any 
dissenting remarks concerning the news server once it was 'decided' that
both could exist concurrently.  Also, I don't believe that anyone ever
believed it would not be technically possible to create and maintain both
the email list and the news server (which I believe is what your comment
about the PHP mailing list is meant to clarify).  The only thing that
has been missing in the past is the interest by someone to actually make
the news server a reality.

Sorry if my original explanation of the previous discussions on this 
subject made my point unclear to you.

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At 03:29 PM 2/1/2002, Stephano Mariani wrote:
>Why should a news server replace a mailing list? Has someone seen the
>PHP mailing list recently? All items on the list are also put on a news
>server automatically, likewise with news items being posted to the
>mailing list subscribers so that users have both options.
>
>Stephano Mariani
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
>Of Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)
>Sent: Friday, 1 February 2002 6 25
>To: Andrew DeFaria; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Why not a news server?
>
>At 12:59 PM 2/1/2002, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
> >Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list. I find
>the mail list deficient in several areas. First and foremost it's noisy
>causing me to wade through all this email for topics I'm interested in.
>Secondly there's no easy or convenient way to response to individual
>issues (I get a digest of cygwin stuff emailed to me). Seems to me that
>nntp was designed specifically for such communications and a number of
>companies have set up news servers for such things.
> >
> >Finally a number of times I receive a digest speaking of topics and
>articles but the email message is apparently truncated and the bodies of
>these articles are missing.
> >
> >Comments? (I'm sure there will be some).
>
>
>Well at least it's been years since this topic came up.  It used to come
>up every few months. :-(  
>
>OK, there are differences now compared to when this topic was last
>discussed so maybe it warrants "discussion".  However, I'd highly 
>recommend that anyone that wishes to discuss this review the email list
>archives.  I think it was generally agreed that no one objected to the
>use of a news server so long as it didn't replace the email list.
>
>In this context, I believe the main reason that a news server has never 
>been implemented is that no one has volunteered to set one up and run
>it.
>So, I guess if you're interested in having one, you can have one if you
>or someone else is willing to do the work to create and maintain it.
>Not to sound too pessimistic but pointing out this fact in the past was
>enough to kill the thread... for a while.
>
>
>
>
>
>Larry Hall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>RFK Partners, Inc.  http://www.rfk.com
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>Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX
>
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Re: security.cc: bug report, question and suggestion

2002-02-01 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:08:49AM -0500, Pierre A. Humblet wrote:
>> I hoped to get an assignment from you so that we never have to ask
>> for that later.  
>Ah, but I am pretty sure you have one already (a few years back).

I don't see any record of this.  Do you have specifics?  Like who you
sent the assignment to and who signed your copy when you received
confirmation?

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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:59:36AM -0800, Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>Why not simply set up a news server instead of this mail list.

Because we're mean.

cgf

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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Greg Mosier

Yeah, I've too noticed this inconvience of having to use reply all to get it
to go back to the list.  The most frustrating thing about this is that this
is a setting in the listserv software, whether it be elzm, mailman,
majordomo, or listserv.  The person that has set this up has configured it
so that the default reply to address is that of the send instead of the
list.  A simple change in the configuration would alleviate that and would
likely increase participation on the list.  As an example, let's say Joe has
a problem but I have no clue what his resolution might be.  However, John
replies to it and suggests something to Joe.  John's suggestion isn't the
solution, but it sparks recollection in the minds of others as the what the
resolution indeed is.  Now, if John's reply never makes it to the list then
you lose that possibility.  Then, when someone has something to say to
someone that is off topic they can switch the email addresses quite easily.

Cheers,
Greg Mosier

From: "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why not a news server?


> >And again, currently this is not very convenient. For example, Larry here
emailed me directly at my work email address about this topic. I hit reply
and replied to him. But our discussion did not go to the Cygwin mail list. I
noticed, just as it was too late, that I forgot to add on the
[EMAIL PROTECTED], so you all didn't get that first response. Then Larry
emails me again, continuing our discussion of this issue. This time I
remembered. As I said email is not conducive to discussions, which is why
news and news servers exist no? Also, as has been stated, it's a big waste
of bandwidth and space to send everybody a copy of the thread, especially
since rarely is anybody interested in all of it.
>
>
> Actually, I think the problem was at your end.  I replied to all so my
> response (originally) went to the list (and you).  You probably got two
> responses.  When you replied, you didn't reply to all, so only I got the
> response.  Unlike allot of other frequent responders to the list, I don't
> reset my 'Reply-To' field to point to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I respond.
> It's just a choice.  I don't object to anyone doing this (or not).  I also
> don't generally redirect email that folks send directly to me back to the
> list.  Again, I have no problem with folks doing that.  I just don't
> generally myself (for reasons that aren't really germane to this thread).



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Re: FW: Updated: rxvt-2.7.2-8

2002-02-01 Thread Greg Mosier

Yeah ;-/  This was my first reply to the list and I didn't realize that the
default reply-to address was set to sender as opposed to the list *sigh*.

Cheers,
Greg Mosier

- Original Message -
From: "Roth, Kevin P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Greg Mosier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:51 PM
Subject: RE: FW: Updated: rxvt-2.7.2-8


Sounds like a fine suggestion, but there's nothing I can do about it ;-)
You might consider sending the comment back to the cygwin mailing list.

--Kevin


>3rd - I guess my real question was this - if cygwin is *always* used on
>a windows PC, shouldn't the version of readline that's distributed with
>cygwin be able to handle the delete key the same way that other
>windows/cmd.exe apps do, out of the box, with no requirement for a user
>to find this setting and add it to ~/.inputrc?

No, this shouldn't be done.  The thing that we're trying to
do is to emulate an *nix environment as closely as possible.
However, a change that I would suggest is as follows.  When I
installed 1.3.9 yesterday it didn't create a $HOME directory for
me and $HOME was simply set to my windows username.  What I
would suggest is that this be changed so that upon install that
/home/UsErNaMe would be created, $HOME would be
set to it on login by default, and that a default .bashrc and .inputrc
be copied into it from /etc

Regards,
Greg Mosier






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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Robert Collins


===
- Original Message -
From: "Greg Mosier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: Why not a news server?


> Yeah, I've too noticed this inconvience of having to use reply all to
get it
> to go back to the list.  The most frustrating thing about this is that
this
> is a setting in the listserv software, whether it be elzm, mailman,
> majordomo, or listserv.  The person that has set this up has
configured it
> so that the default reply to address is that of the send instead of
the
> list.  A simple change in the configuration would alleviate that and
would
> likely increase participation on the list.  As an example, let's say
Joe has
> a problem but I have no clue what his resolution might be.  However,
John
> replies to it and suggests something to Joe.  John's suggestion isn't
the
> solution, but it sparks recollection in the minds of others as the
what the
> resolution indeed is.  Now, if John's reply never makes it to the list
then
> you lose that possibility.  Then, when someone has something to say to
> someone that is off topic they can switch the email addresses quite
easily.

This too has been debated ad inifinitum. There are valid points for and
against doing this.

However, the principal of least surprise requires not doing it, and for
a list that gets many non-subscriber posts, that *also* prohibits
rewriting the reply-to.

Rob


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uncompress utility

2002-02-01 Thread J S

Hi there,

Does anyone know where I can get the uncompress utility for cygwin?

Cheers,

JS.



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Re: gcc broken in 1.3.9 ?

2002-02-01 Thread Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)

Hi Phil,

I don't mean to imply that you aren't capable or experienced with Cygwin.
I do mean to point out that setup.exe is supposed to install binutils
automatically if you install gcc.  Since Pavel suggested that this may
be your problem, I wanted to make sure that the general public reading 
this list did not believe that setup didn't understand package 
dependencies (which it does).  If you're having a problem here (it sounds
like you're not), it's a bug and we need to get more information about 
this.

Pavel and I both felt that the information you gave to the list on this
matter was insufficient to help you diagnose the problem at your end.  As
I said, setup.exe will install binutils and anything else it needs unless
you tell it to do otherwise.  Without more information, I certainly can't
be sure of what you did and how you did it.  That was the basis for my
comments about your installation.  

With the slightly more detailed information you provided in your response,
I can say a couple of things.  First, if you skipped nothing, then I'm
assuming you installed with setup.exe and that you now have gcc and 
binutils installed.  If it doesn't work for you, it may well be that 
you had previously set some environment for gcc, which worked fine with
the old installation, but which confuses the new.  You might want to check
into that.  In addition, looking at the output of cygcheck -s -r -v may
prove helpful.  In particular, I notice you mentioned below that you 
previously had a cygwin1.dll in your /winnt directory.  This is a 
non-standard place to install this DLL.  setup.exe won't put it there.
If you want to be sure your custom installation isn't causing you problems,
you need to undo all the changes you did and reinstall using setup.exe in
the way it installs things.  If you tinker with file locations manually
after the install, that's your prerogative but the list really can't help
you debug that installation.  The most that can be said is 'delete all the
current stuff and reinstall again', which is pretty much what I've been 
saying.  That's all I was trying to get across.

Hope that helps clarify things,

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At 04:08 PM 2/1/2002, Phil Smith wrote:

>I actually saved the entire distribution to disk, removed the old c:/cygwin and 
>c:/winnt/cygwin1.dll and installed with NOTHING skipped, and had the same problem.
>
>FYI: It is installed on NT 4.0 SP 5. I have been running as Administrator. Also, I've 
>used Cygwin for 6 years and ported dozens of applications / utilities, so I don't 
>consider myself a novice to the Cygwin environment.
>
>Phil Smith
>
>>From: "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: Pavel Tsekov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>CC: Phil Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: gcc broken in 1.3.9 ?
>>Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2002 10:21:49 -0500
>>
>>At 10:11 AM 2/1/2002, Pavel Tsekov wrote:
>>
>>
>> >Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc) wrote:
>> >
>> >>At 03:47 AM 2/1/2002, Pavel Tsekov wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Maybe you haven't installed the gcc or binutils package. To  bring
>> >>>everything back to normal just run again the setup.exe program and
>> >>>make sure you select both binutils and gcc packages. If the problem
>> >>>still persists you have to attach the output of the failing build
>> >>>and send it to the list.
>> >>>
>> >>>Phil Smith wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> After installing Cygwin 1.3.9, I found I could no longer compile any sources 
>with gcc. I installed it on top of a Cygwin 1.3.3 installation which I have been 
>using for many months to build successfully port new versions of gdb, tcl, tk and a 
>very large set of application code. What might be the problem ?
>> >>
>> >>Hm.  Unless something is broken or there was a cockpit error, installing
>> >>gcc should install binutils by default via setup.  Is this not the case?
>> >
>> >What if Phile left gcc in te skip state ?  Well maybe I've assumed too
>> >much :( Still I hope he will provide the output of the build.
>>
>>
>>That would be helpful.  Still, it's unclear how he has gcc and not binutils
>>if he skipped the gcc installation.  More information is needed about what
>>he installed and didn't install and how he installed it.  But this
>>information may prove academic.  Simply rerunning setup and installing
>>gcc, double-checking that binutils is installed too as part of this should
>>be all that's necessary to resolve the problem.  This is a specific
>>application of the very good rule of thumb "if you don't see it after the
>>first install, install again and make sure it's selected for installation".
>>
>>
>>
>>Larry Hall  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>RFK Partners, Inc.  http://www.rfk.com
>>838 Washington Street   

Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Charles Wilson

"Reply-To" munging has also been discussed on this list previously. 
Please familiarize yourself with the arguments that have already been 
hashed out on this list in the past before continuing this line of 
discussion.

Also, see '"Reply To" Munging Considered Harmful' :
http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

--Chuck


Greg Mosier wrote:

> Yeah, I've too noticed this inconvience of having to use reply all to get it
> to go back to the list.  The most frustrating thing about this is that this
> is a setting in the listserv software, whether it be elzm, mailman,
> majordomo, or listserv.  The person that has set this up has configured it
> so that the default reply to address is that of the send instead of the
> list.  A simple change in the configuration would alleviate that and would
> likely increase participation on the list.  As an example, let's say Joe has
> a problem but I have no clue what his resolution might be.  However, John
> replies to it and suggests something to Joe.  John's suggestion isn't the
> solution, but it sparks recollection in the minds of others as the what the
> resolution indeed is.  Now, if John's reply never makes it to the list then
> you lose that possibility.  Then, when someone has something to say to
> someone that is off topic they can switch the email addresses quite easily.
> 
> Cheers,
> Greg Mosier
> 
> From: "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Why not a news server?
> 
> 
> 
>>>And again, currently this is not very convenient. For example, Larry here
>>>
> emailed me directly at my work email address about this topic. I hit reply
> and replied to him. But our discussion did not go to the Cygwin mail list. I
> noticed, just as it was too late, that I forgot to add on the
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], so you all didn't get that first response. Then Larry
> emails me again, continuing our discussion of this issue. This time I
> remembered. As I said email is not conducive to discussions, which is why
> news and news servers exist no? Also, as has been stated, it's a big waste
> of bandwidth and space to send everybody a copy of the thread, especially
> since rarely is anybody interested in all of it.
> 
>>
>>Actually, I think the problem was at your end.  I replied to all so my
>>response (originally) went to the list (and you).  You probably got two
>>responses.  When you replied, you didn't reply to all, so only I got the
>>response.  Unlike allot of other frequent responders to the list, I don't
>>reset my 'Reply-To' field to point to [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I respond.
>>It's just a choice.  I don't object to anyone doing this (or not).  I also
>>don't generally redirect email that folks send directly to me back to the
>>list.  Again, I have no problem with folks doing that.  I just don't
>>generally myself (for reasons that aren't really germane to this thread).
>>
> 
> 
> 
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Re: cygipc shmat bug

2002-02-01 Thread Robert Collins


===
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Haubenwallner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The problem is, that the pid-numbering of Windows is quite "confuse"
> (i don't know any better word), meaning that a later ipctest.exe
> gets the same pid as before, while the attach before with the same
> pid is not removed from the list yet.

So don't test by PID, test by handle. IIRC I've already suggested that.
Also, IIRC (Chris, Corinna you may have encountered evidence about this)
if you have a handle open for a process, it's PID isn't recycled until
all the handles have been closed).

Rob


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RE: Error in Cygwin dll (?) Fork Copy using Xemacs

2002-02-01 Thread Heribert Dahms

Hi David,

C:\>net helpmsg 8

Not enough storage is available to process this command.

Enlarge your pagefile and if this still fails,
search for "heap_chunk_in_mb" on google or
in the mailing list archive http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/


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> From: David A. Cobb [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Error in Cygwin dll (?) Fork Copy using Xemacs
> 
> Running Xemacs 21.4.6  - EFS, very slow downloads of package updates
> 
> Suddenly a screeching halt with the following on my terminal
> 0 [main] 90249331 fork_copy: user/cygwin data pass 2 failed, 
> 0x1002..0x10541000,
> done 0,  , Win32 error 8
> 
> What is it, and how can I avoid it in future?
> 
> Thanks
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Re: Problems upgrading from 2.95.3-5 to 3.X on cygwin

2002-02-01 Thread Neil Booth

I suggest you remove all '\r' characters from i386.md, so that the
newlines consist of '\n' only.  That will likely solve your problem.

You needn't bother with insn-flags.h; that looks to be only a warning
and once you get stage1 built of 3.0, it won't have problems with
'\r' (but the .md file still might; I'm not sure about that).

Neil.

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RE: Problems upgrading from 2.95.3-5 to 3.X on cygwin

2002-02-01 Thread Billinghurst, David (CRTS)

Mack,

A couple of things to try:

Unpack the gcc source tree using cygwin tar and gzip/bzip2.  Some windows utilities 
are "smart" enough to convert \n to \r\n

Try using binary mounts for the source and build trees.

Use the configure options I posted earlier. 

-Original Message-
From: Neil Booth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2002 9:05 
To: Mack Lobell
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Problems upgrading from 2.95.3-5 to 3.X on cygwin


I suggest you remove all '\r' characters from i386.md, so that the
newlines consist of '\n' only.  That will likely solve your problem.

You needn't bother with insn-flags.h; that looks to be only a warning
and once you get stage1 built of 3.0, it won't have problems with
'\r' (but the .md file still might; I'm not sure about that).

Neil.

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Re: cygipc shmat bug

2002-02-01 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 09:16:57AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote:
>From: "Michael Haubenwallner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>The problem is, that the pid-numbering of Windows is quite "confuse" (i
>>don't know any better word), meaning that a later ipctest.exe gets the
>>same pid as before, while the attach before with the same pid is not
>>removed from the list yet.
>
>So don't test by PID, test by handle.  IIRC I've already suggested
>that.  Also, IIRC (Chris, Corinna you may have encountered evidence
>about this) if you have a handle open for a process, it's PID isn't
>recycled until all the handles have been closed).

That's correct.  Cygwin relies on that behavior, in fact.

In case it isn't obvious, Cygwin uses windows pids, which can be
recycled rapidly.  Relying on any specific behavior for PID numbers is
really not a good idea, even on UNIX.

cgf

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RE: Cron v3.0.1-5 setup issue w/ Cygwin v1.3.6

2002-02-01 Thread Craig Rees

Hey Corinna,

Thanks for the tip. Once I started redireting stdout and stderr everything 
seems to work and email event log messages went away.

# Test CRON tab from CraigR
* * * * * /usr/bin/date >> $HOME/date.log 2>&1
* * * * * echo "Hello from CRON" >> /tmp/echo.log 2>&1
* * * * * touch $HOME/touch.log

However, I am still getting Event log messages, one per crontab process with 
every run and now my Event log is full.


Event log messages from WinNT:

The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source
( /usr/sbin/cron ) could not be found. It contains the
following insertion string(s): /usr/sbin/cron : Win32
Process Id = 0x102 : Cygwin Process Id = 0x102 :
(trendadm) CMD (echo "Hello from CRON" >> /tmp/echo.log
2>&1).


Event log messages from Win2K:

The description for Event ID ( 0 ) in Source
( /usr/sbin/cron ) cannot be found. The local computer
may not have the necessary registry information or
message DLL files to display messages from a remote
computer. The following information is part of the
event: /usr/sbin/cron : Win32 Process Id = 0x704 :
Cygwin Process Id = 0x704 : (crees) CMD (/usr/bin/date
>>$HOME/date.log 2>&1).


I still think I have a configuration issue somewhere.

Any ideas?  Thanks much.

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RE: auctex can only see .tex files in HOME directory

2002-02-01 Thread Scott, Steven

Markus, 

Thank you for responding.  

> I could not reproduce this problem on my home box. I updated the
> Cygwin installation yesterday, and I use AucTeX 10.0.g, Emacs 21.1,
> and Cygwin's teTeX.

I updated to emacs 21.1 in the hopes that my problem would go away.
Alas, it did not.

> What shell do you use to run the TeX commands in Emacs? How did you
> set it up?

I have cygwin as the shell to run when one types M-x shell.  I presume
(though I do not know for sure) that this means cygwin is also the
shell that emacs/auctex uses to run latex.

The only command I changed from the tex-site.el defaults was the print
command (to "dvips -o") in (defcustom TeX-printer-list
  '(("Local" "dvips -o %s.ps %s" "lpq") ...))

The relevant lines from my .emacs file are given below:

Steve
--
 tell emacs where to look for lisp files
(setq load-path (cons "d:/cygwin/elisp" load-path))  

;;;  BEGIN AUCTEX ;

(require 'tex-site)
(setq tex-default-mode 'latex-mode)
(setq text-mode-hook 'turn-on-auto-fill)
;;;   AUCTEX contributed files
(if window-system
(require 'hilit-LaTeX))   ;; highlight latex commands
;
(if window-system
(require 'font-latex));; font lock (highlights C commands)
;
(autoload 'turn-on-bib-cite "bib-cite");;; bib-cite
(add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook 'turn-on-bib-cite)
;;  END AUCTEX ;
 
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Subject: auctex can only see .tex files in HOME directory

Hi,

I could not reproduce this problem on my home box. I updated the
Cygwin installation yesterday, and I use AucTeX 10.0.g, Emacs 21.1,
and Cygwin's teTeX.

What shell do you use to run the TeX commands in Emacs? How did you
set it up?

regards,
Markus

Scott, Steven writes:
 > I recently updated my Cygwin distribution and now aucTeX will only
 > work on documents (i.e. .tex files) in my HOME directory.  If I use
 > LaTeX from the Cygwin shell then things work fine, as they did before
I
 > installed the updated distribution.  (I.e. I can LaTeX files in their
local
 > directories).

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Re: A real fork() on NT

2002-02-01 Thread Chris January

> That isn't really new.  I'd like to point you to the example 6.1,
> "Forking a Win32 Process" on p. 161ff of Gary Nebbett's excellent
> book "Windows NT/2000 Native API Reference", published by MTP,
> ISBN 1-57870-199-6, which also describes the problem with kernel32.dll
> initialization of the child process.

Are you referring to the CsrpConnectToServer function? I have a working
implementation which replaces this with CsrClientConnectToServer which is
exported from the DLL. Are their any other pitfalls I should be aware of?

Regards
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Re: A real fork() on NT

2002-02-01 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 03:05:47AM -, Chris January wrote:
>>That isn't really new.  I'd like to point you to the example 6.1,
>>"Forking a Win32 Process" on p.  161ff of Gary Nebbett's excellent book
>>"Windows NT/2000 Native API Reference", published by MTP, ISBN
>>1-57870-199-6, which also describes the problem with kernel32.dll
>>initialization of the child process.
>
>Are you referring to the CsrpConnectToServer function?  I have a
>working implementation which replaces this with
>CsrClientConnectToServer which is exported from the DLL.  Are their any
>other pitfalls I should be aware of?

The book has a sample implementation of fork for NT.  Buy the book if you
are interested.

I doubt that either Corinna or I want to transcribe the book for this
mailing list.  And, I'm pretty sure that neither of us has that much
experience with the routines in the book.  I did play with the
implementation and realized that it would take quite a bit of work to
perfect for cygwin.  For one thing, it doesn't seem to concern itself
with dlls.

I don't remember if there were other issues.

cgf

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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Greg Mosier

From: "Robert Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why not a news server?


> > to go back to the list.  The most frustrating thing about this is that
> this
> > is a setting in the listserv software, whether it be elzm, mailman,
> > majordomo, or listserv.  The person that has set this up has
> configured it
> > so that the default reply to address is that of the send instead of
> the
> > list.  A simple change in the configuration would alleviate that and
>
> This too has been debated ad inifinitum. There are valid points for and
> against doing this.
>
> However, the principal of least surprise requires not doing it, and for
> a list that gets many non-subscriber posts, that *also* prohibits
> rewriting the reply-to.

Well, the valid arguement against that, would of course be, if they want an
answer bad enough have them search the archives of the list for it, or else
join the list for the short time that it takes them to resolve their issue.
I mean, really, should a list be supportive of it's long standing members or
people that don't have the time to invest in finding an answer for
themselves via subbing or searching archives.

Just my two cents,
Greg Mosier



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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Greg Mosier

From: "Charles Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why not a news server?


> "Reply-To" munging has also been discussed on this list previously.
> Please familiarize yourself with the arguments that have already been
> hashed out on this list in the past before continuing this line of
> discussion.
>
> Also, see '"Reply To" Munging Considered Harmful' :
> http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
>
> --Chuck

Well, not to be a pain about this, but being that you're primarily
suggesting that I familiarize myself with the list history shouldn't you
have taken the time to notice that it wasn't I that started the thread, that
I was only replying to it?  Sorry if that sounds offensive any, it's been a
bad day .

Cheers,
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Re: Why not a news server?

2002-02-01 Thread Charles Wilson

Greg Mosier wrote:


>>"Reply-To" munging has also been discussed on this list previously.
>>Please familiarize yourself with the arguments that have already been
>>hashed out on this list in the past before continuing this line of
>>discussion.
>>
>>Also, see '"Reply To" Munging Considered Harmful' :
>>http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
>>
>>--Chuck
>>
> 
> Well, not to be a pain about this, but being that you're primarily
> suggesting that I familiarize myself with the list history shouldn't you
> have taken the time to notice that it wasn't I that started the thread, that
> I was only replying to it?  Sorry if that sounds offensive any, it's been a
> bad day .


I did notice that.  My point was that *you*, since *you* made the 
suggestion about "Reply-To" headers -- *you* should become familiar with 
previous discussions about ** "Reply-To" headers **.  Not newsgroups vs. 
mailing lists.

I was not replying on the newsgroup vs mailing list topic, which you 
didn't start.  I was replying on the "Reply-To" subthread -- which you 
*did* start.

--Chuck



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Re: A real fork() on NT

2002-02-01 Thread Greg Mosier

From: "Chris January" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A real fork() on NT


> > That isn't really new.  I'd like to point you to the example 6.1,
> > "Forking a Win32 Process" on p. 161ff of Gary Nebbett's excellent
> > book "Windows NT/2000 Native API Reference", published by MTP,
> > ISBN 1-57870-199-6, which also describes the problem with kernel32.dll
> > initialization of the child process.
>
> Are you referring to the CsrpConnectToServer function? I have a working
> implementation which replaces this with CsrClientConnectToServer which is
> exported from the DLL. Are their any other pitfalls I should be aware of?

Pardon the intrusion here, but this sounds like it could be connected with a
problem that I'm working on.  I've got an issue with an application that I'm
trying to get to fork into bg.  Of course, this application, eggdrop, isn't
written to fork with cygwin and therefore I'm trying to patch it so that it
will.  The interesting thing about this is that I can start eggdrop with an
& but it still doesn't return the controlling terminal.  What difference it
does make, though, is that starting it with & allows me to Crtl-Break it
once it's running and it returns the controlling terminal while the program
continues in bg.  I would guess that this is an issue related with forking
issues under cygwin as I searched the archives and it seems to be an ongoing
issue.  From what I can tell, though, it seems like quite a few people have
gotten this to work?  I ask you people of the list, should I even bother
beating my head against the wall here or just forget about it?

Cheers,
Greg

P.S.  I would have dropped this awhile back with the exception of the cron
application.  It appears to fork quite nicely under Win98, my OS.  Now maybe
I'm wrong here, but seems to me if one app can fork that surely another
should be able to, no?




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Re: A real fork() on NT

2002-02-01 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:27:21PM -0800, Greg Mosier wrote:
>P.S.  I would have dropped this awhile back with the exception of the cron
>application.  It appears to fork quite nicely under Win98, my OS.  Now maybe
>I'm wrong here, but seems to me if one app can fork that surely another
>should be able to, no?

Cygwin fork works just fine.  It's slow but it should work as well as UNIX
fork for a ported application.  The only exception that I can think of is
if you use dlopen to load a non-cygwin DLL.  In that case there is a problem
with relocation of the DLL after a fork.

If you consider the number of applications that have been ported to cygwin,
it would be pretty amazing if there was some basic problem with fork.

cgf

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cywin dll src

2002-02-01 Thread Info

Anyone knows how to obtain the cygwin1.dll src code?
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Re: cywin dll src

2002-02-01 Thread Christopher Faylor

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:43:08PM -0800, Info wrote:
>Anyone knows how to obtain the cygwin1.dll src code?

???

Go to the cygwin web site at http://cygwin.com/ and look for the word
"Source" in the left column.

Alternatively, click on the "source" column when you install cygwin via
the "Install Cygwin Now!" setting.

cgf

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