Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

A quick update:

Pretty much every nut needed tightening. I can’t recall exactly when I did it 
last, but it was probably at least 5-10 years ago. Water that was getting in 
the bilge is no longer getting in 😊

This raises a question: I cannot imagine that these nuts are backing off, so 
why is this a maintenance thing? I would think they would stay once set? 

* next time I am using a torque multiplier, my arms are still sore!

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

 

Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

[Leeward Rail via CnC-List]

The keel bolts are in lead. Lead is soft and eventually they would pull upwards 
slightly.  I would assume that is why.   I have been planning to contact 
MARSKEEL and get some pro info.

Stus-List C&C 30 mk1 cockpit mounted throttle adjustment

[Leeward Rail via CnC-List]

Our 30 mk1 with engine controls on the cockpit side, has a throttle 
detent/notch you can feel as you push it forward.

Anyone else have this?
If so, what is the purpose?

The cable is out of adjustment. I am going to adjust the cable and wonder if 
that detent is to meant to be "startup" position or what.

  I would assume if it is meant to be a start position that there is a 
recommended carb linkage position to match that detent at the throttle lever

Cheers!
Roy

Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

I hadn’t thought of that! The keel is slowly getting shorter. If I keep the 
boat another 50 years I won’t be aground at extra-low tide!

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

From: Leeward Rail via CnC-List  
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Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

 

The keel bolts are in lead. Lead is soft and eventually they would pull upwards 
slightly.  I would assume that is why.   I have been planning to contact 
MARSKEEL and get some pro info. 

Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

No!  If the lead is soft, the keel will be getting longer as it sags.  The
shark fin shape will gradually become longer until it resembles the dorsal
of a male orca.  LOL  :)

I suspect the fiberglass may have compressed slightly.

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 1:32 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I hadn’t thought of that! The keel is slowly getting shorter. If I keep
> the boat another 50 years I won’t be aground at extra-low tide!
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> Joe Della Barba
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> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
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> *From:* Leeward Rail via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2022 1:24 PM
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> The keel bolts are in lead. Lead is soft and eventually they would pull
> upwards slightly.  I would assume that is why.   I have been planning to
> contact MARSKEEL and get some pro info.
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Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

[Leeward Rail via CnC-List]

The fiberglass can compress of course.

If you search for photos of keels being repaired, you will find photos of lead 
keels with the bolts being _rebedded_.

MARSKEEL website is especially cool. Some of their staff worked for C&C. They 
not only make new and repair old lead keels (both oem and custom) , they also 
make custom bulbs to reduce draft.

I had some hope of doing that last year but unfortunately not an option for the 
stupid shark fin keel design.

Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

[Neil Gallagher via CnC-List]

When I first torqued the forward-most keel bolt, the 3/4" one, I heard 
some crunching sounds and found out there's wood under the top 
fiberglass layer below the keel bolt,  inside the deep V of the lower 
hull.  Pretty sure it's the same under the others farther aft.  It was a 
tedious repair, done in conjunction with the mast step replacement.


Neil Gallagher
Weatherly, 35-1
Glen Cove, NY



On 9/25/2022 2:32 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List wrote:


I hadn’t thought of that! The keel is slowly getting shorter. If I 
keep the boat another 50 years I won’t be aground at extra-low tide!


Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

*From:* Leeward Rail via CnC-List 
*Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2022 1:24 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Leeward Rail 
*Subject:* Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

The keel bolts are in lead. Lead is soft and eventually they would 
pull upwards slightly.  I would assume that is why.   I have been 
planning to contact MARSKEEL and get some pro info.

Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

[dwight veinot via CnC-List]

I think if you had water ingress and sloved the issue by tightening the
nuts on your keel bolts then getting good effect from the bedding compound
used was the problem. Anybody know what bedding compound was used on build.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 3:32 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I hadn’t thought of that! The keel is slowly getting shorter. If I keep
> the boat another 50 years I won’t be aground at extra-low tide!
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> Joe Della Barba
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> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
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> Kent Island MD USA
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> *From:* Leeward Rail via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 25, 2022 1:24 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Leeward Rail 
> *Subject:* Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts
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> The keel bolts are in lead. Lead is soft and eventually they would pull
> upwards slightly.  I would assume that is why.   I have been planning to
> contact MARSKEEL and get some pro info.
>
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Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

[G Donald Wagner via CnC-List]

I believe our C&C yachts use lead doped with  a percent of Antimony. The 
Antimony adds strength, hardness, oxidation resistance,  and aids in the flow 
for the casting process.It not like pure lead, and the properties are not the 
same. maybe we have some metallurgists in the group, and they can comment ?

Don WagnerC&C 41 CB"Der Baron"

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Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

I hadn’t thought of that! The keel is slowly getting shorter. If I keep 
the boat another 50 years I won’t be aground at extra-low tide!    Joe Della 
BarbaCoquina C&C 35 MK IKent Island MD USA      From: Leeward Rail via CnC-List 
 
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2022 1:24 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
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Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts  The keel bolts are in lead. Lead 
is soft and eventually they would pull upwards slightly.  I would assume that 
is why.   I have been planning to contact MARSKEEL and get some pro info. 

Stus-List Re: Fiona (was Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts)

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Dwight,

How did you survive the visit from Fiona? I hope you and your close ones are ok.

Marek
Ottawa ON


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 Original message 
From: dwight veinot via CnC-List 
Date: 2022-09-25 17:21 (GMT-05:00)
To: Stus-List 
Cc: dwight veinot 
Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

I think if you had water ingress and sloved the issue by tightening the nuts on 
your keel bolts then getting good effect from the bedding compound used was the 
problem. Anybody know what bedding compound was used on build.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2022 at 3:32 PM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I hadn’t thought of that! The keel is slowly getting shorter. If I keep the 
boat another 50 years I won’t be aground at extra-low tide!


Joe Della Barba
Coquina C&C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA



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Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 35 MK I Keel Bolts

The keel bolts are in lead. Lead is soft and eventually they would pull upwards 
slightly.  I would assume that is why.   I have been planning to contact 
MARSKEEL and get some pro info.
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