Stus-List Re: Line question

[james taylor via CnC-List]

Ron, I generally try to use the smallest line possible on my boat. A line
must be big enough to handle the load and small enough to fit with the
blocks, cleats and winches. Personally, I find 1/4" line to be too small to
be comfortable on my hands. On a traveller and downhaul, a little stretch
will not be a problem, so I wouldn't spend extra money for sta-set. On a
vang or halyard, I would select a line with little stretch. For a roller
furling jib halyard, I like New England VPC because it has a Vectran core
that has very little "creep", which means a line that stays under tension
will not get longer over time. For sheets I prioritize the "hand" or feel
of the line and I really like "trophy braid" because it is very soft. When
I was hard core racing, My priorities were different and I used a lot of
smaller, lower stretch (and expensive) lines.
James
Delaney
C&C 38-2
Oriental, NC

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 5:09 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Mine are all 3/8 StaSet, I think.  Some day I'll change the traveler sheet
> to 9.5 mm (3/8") New England Salsa.
> --
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 2:25 PM Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> This question shows a terrible lack of knowledge but here goes:  To
>> replace some running rigging like the downhaul, topping lift and traveler
>> line, is a double braid like Sta-Set the normal product to use?
>> I no longer race my own boat, so it's just what's needed for playing
>> around.
>> If I measured correctly, the traveler would be quarter inch and the
>> downhaul would be 3/8in.
>> Ron
>> Wild Cheri
>> C&C 30-1
>> STL
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Stus-List Re: rudder seam

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

I saw a boat that was only about 3 years old with a rudder split from ice. Some 
people have holes drilled in their rudders at the bottom they drill out in the 
fall and then epoxy closed before launch. My boat is not out of the water in 
the winter, so I have not had this issue.

A buddy with a C&C 35 MK II had rudder issues and brought the rudder home as a 
project. He managed to cut a big section of skin off, scoop out all the wet 
foam, fill the space with an epoxy mix, and epoxy the skin back on.

Also note you can just buy a new rudder 😉

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

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Stus-List Re: rudder seam

[G Gao via CnC-List]

Thx Joe. Unfortunately I am not equipped to do this...need to start
preparing the admiral to approve a big budget!

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:08 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I saw a boat that was only about 3 years old with a rudder split from ice.
> Some people have holes drilled in their rudders at the bottom they drill
> out in the fall and then epoxy closed before launch. My boat is not out of
> the water in the winter, so I have not had this issue.
>
> A buddy with a C&C 35 MK II had rudder issues and brought the rudder home
> as a project. He managed to cut a big section of skin off, scoop out all
> the wet foam, fill the space with an epoxy mix, and epoxy the skin back on.
>
> Also note you can just buy a new rudder 😉
>
>
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
>
> Kent Island MD USA
>
>
>
>
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Stus-List Re: rudder seam

[Joel Delamirande via CnC-List]

I wonder how much the cost difference redoing
A foam rudder and stainless rudder
The stainless idea I saw it on YouTube
Now there sailing the Bahamas and they love it

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 11:30 AM G Gao via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Thx Joe. Unfortunately I am not equipped to do this...need to start
> preparing the admiral to approve a big budget!
>
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:08 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I saw a boat that was only about 3 years old with a rudder split from
>> ice. Some people have holes drilled in their rudders at the bottom they
>> drill out in the fall and then epoxy closed before launch. My boat is not
>> out of the water in the winter, so I have not had this issue.
>>
>> A buddy with a C&C 35 MK II had rudder issues and brought the rudder home
>> as a project. He managed to cut a big section of skin off, scoop out all
>> the wet foam, fill the space with an epoxy mix, and epoxy the skin back on.
>>
>> Also note you can just buy a new rudder 😉
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Joe Della Barba
>>
>> Coquina C&C 35 MK I
>>
>> Kent Island MD USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> - Stu
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-- 
Joel Delamirande
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Stus-List Re: rudder seam

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Interesting thought.  Some discussion here:

https://www.boatdesign.net/threads/stailess-steel-rudder.27641/

Dave 

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> On Apr 25, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I wonder how much the cost difference redoing 
> A foam rudder and stainless rudder 
> The stainless idea I saw it on YouTube 
> Now there sailing the Bahamas and they love it
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 11:30 AM G Gao via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> Thx Joe. Unfortunately I am not equipped to do this...need to start 
>> preparing the admiral to approve a big budget!
>> 
 On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:08 AM Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
  wrote:
 I saw a boat that was only about 3 years old with a rudder split from ice. 
 Some people have holes drilled in their rudders at the bottom they drill 
 out in the fall and then epoxy closed before launch. My boat is not out of 
 the water in the winter, so I have not had this issue.
 
 A buddy with a C&C 35 MK II had rudder issues and brought the rudder home 
 as a project. He managed to cut a big section of skin off, scoop out all 
 the wet foam, fill the space with an epoxy mix, and epoxy the skin back on.
 
 Also note you can just buy a new rudder 😉
 
  
 
  
 
 Joe Della Barba
 
 Coquina C&C 35 MK I
 
 Kent Island MD USA
 
  
 
  
 
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>>> Stu
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> -- 
> Joel Delamirande
> 
> www.jdroofing.ca
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Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37

[Hans Reinhardt via CnC-List]

John,
Many thanks for going to the trouble of posting photos. My ‘82 37 appears to 
have the identical setup. And so equally less than ideal. Is one of the 
projects that I need to push beyond thought exercise. So far my mind has been 
stuck in Rube-Goldbergian quicksand.  🙄 One of the main issues is the height of 
the pedestal and the requisite bracing for a tall rudder post extension. 
Another is tiller length. A ”bicycle handlebar” type yoke that reaches around 
both sides of the pedestal above the seating or coaming height could work  
🤪 ... still rather R-G. 
To date I’m unimpressed with the reach of my imagination. But I really should 
move on something 😊
Hans R
S/V Ete’
Seattle, WA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The photos came through clear; thank you!
> 
> Richard
> s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37; Ohio River, Mile 596;
> Richard N. Bush Law Offices 
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: John Conklin via CnC-List 
> To: Stus-List 
> Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com ; John Conklin 
> 
> Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 9:40 pm
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
> 
> OK lets see if this works from my 82- 37 
>  after sending and filing on work google drive, renaming and changing 
> restrictions and copying link  Here you go !! 
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/10uaMbhSuU1ugwDZEVNXaIN-NkrVQXZ-U/view?usp=sharing
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/125h-CtaY1Cj9oSpy9fW29uGGrAFCysiC/view?usp=sharing
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/18MLaBCwqN1eWIXQAIBtbNThUYRgra5mD/view?usp=sharing
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DRQsrhHy7FbIHp3iD_2BIBk63SZHMAI6/view?usp=sharing
> 
> John Conklin 
> S/V Halcyon 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:25 PM, Peter McMinn via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Trying to understand how the emergency tiller works on my 37. As others have 
>> noted on their 35II, the access aft of the pedestal is less than ideal, if 
>> not dangerous. Any workarounds or mods I should consider?
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
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>> Stu
> 
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Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Don't overthink things.  Just figure you will need a rope purchase to use the 
emergency tiller and plan for one.  Then perform proper maintenance on the 
steering system regularly so you never need it.  My two cents.


Chuck Scheaffer 1989 Resolute 1989 C&C 34R

> On 04/25/2021 6:04 PM Hans Reinhardt via CnC-List  
> wrote:
>  
>  
> John,
> Many thanks for going to the trouble of posting photos. My ‘82 37 appears 
> to have the identical setup. And so equally less than ideal. Is one of the 
> projects that I need to push beyond thought exercise. So far my mind has been 
> stuck in Rube-Goldbergian quicksand.  🙄 One of the main issues is the height 
> of the pedestal and the requisite bracing for a tall rudder post extension. 
> Another is tiller length. A ”bicycle handlebar” type yoke that reaches around 
> both sides of the pedestal above the seating or coaming height could work 
>  🤪 ... still rather R-G. 
> To date I’m unimpressed with the reach of my imagination. But I really 
> should move on something 😊
> Hans R
> S/V Ete’
> Seattle, WA
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> > > On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:21 PM, Richard Bush via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > The photos came through clear; thank you!
> >  
> > Richard
> > s/v Bushmark4; 1985 C&C 37; Ohio River, Mile 596;
> > Richard N. Bush Law Offices
> > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> > 502-584-7255
> >  
> >  
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Conklin via CnC-List 
> > To: Stus-List 
> > Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com ; John Conklin 
> > 
> > Sent: Fri, Apr 16, 2021 9:40 pm
> > Subject: Stus-List Re: Emergency tiller on a 37
> > 
> > OK lets see if this works from my 82- 37 
> >  after sending and filing on work google drive, renaming and 
> > changing restrictions and copying link  Here you go !! 
> > 
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/10uaMbhSuU1ugwDZEVNXaIN-NkrVQXZ-U/view?usp=sharing
> > 
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/125h-CtaY1Cj9oSpy9fW29uGGrAFCysiC/view?usp=sharing
> > 
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/18MLaBCwqN1eWIXQAIBtbNThUYRgra5mD/view?usp=sharing
> > 
> > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DRQsrhHy7FbIHp3iD_2BIBk63SZHMAI6/view?usp=sharing
> >  
> > John Conklin 
> > S/V Halcyon 
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > > > > On Apr 16, 2021, at 7:25 PM, Peter McMinn via 
> > CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > > 
> > > Trying to understand how the emergency tiller works on my 37. 
> > > As others have noted on their 35II, the access aft of the pedestal is 
> > > less than ideal, if not dangerous. Any workarounds or mods I should 
> > > consider?
> > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list 
> > > to help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the 
> > > list - use PayPal to send contribution --
> > > https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
> > > 
> > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to 
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> > > Stu
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