Stus-List genoa tracks
I have those tracks on the cockpit edge as well, but no blocks there to use them. What kind of car does one use there that can be easily removed? Dave > On May 21, 2020, at 12:31 PM, Luke Wolbrink via CnC-List > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > > My understanding is the the small tracks (my 35-3 only has the rear ones) are > to help you get really tight sheeting angles when trying to point. > Functionally, I've never used them and typically point higher than most of > the competition even with the big #1 genoa. The forward ones as you note are > probably for a #3 or storm sail to sheet with. You might also be able to pull > off something funky with inhauling from a lead up there but if you're really > just cruising I'm not sure that the effort would worth it. David Knecht S/V Aries 1990 C&C 34+ New London, CT ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Diesel Filter
Time and again I have read that Yanmar does not recommend a 2/3 micron primary filter. I therefore use a 10 micron, and use Biobar, as well as some Seafoam. I have some old crud in my tank, but where I can see it through the hole for the sender, the bits I can see are pretty well stuck to the bottom of the tank (and there are not many of them). That said, the boat had sat at the dock for +/- 6 years before I got her, and we have run 150 gallons or so of fuel through the boat in the last 4 years. I change my Racor every year, and I used to change the one on the engine every year as well. This time, I'm going to let the engine mounted one go another year. We still get a fine layer of black "grit" at the bottom of the racor over the year, but it does not appear to hinder the running of the engine. I'd rather swap out a $20 filter once a year than risk the engine shutting down as I go through a bridge opening with 3 kts. of current. To each their own,Bruce Sent from Samsung tablet. Original message From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List Date: 5/24/20 1:47 AM (GMT-05:00) To: CnC-List Cc: Kevin Driscoll Subject: Re: Stus-List Diesel Filter I run a 2 micron in my primary Racor as Josh mentioned and on the advice of the teacher of a 'small marine diesel engine class' I took. I never wait for the engine to stall before changing and I do not have a guage. What I do have and maintain is a clean tank and use biobor religiously. I change my primary annually or before a big offshore trip, for peace of mind. Hell of a lot easier to use a 2 micron in the primary and leave the downstream 2 micron secondary engine mounted filter in place. I top off the primary Racor with Diesel when I put it back together so I never have to bleed. On Sat, May 23, 2020, 2:31 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote:David,I wasn’t on board, but I think one was a precaution and the other because of a stall-out. All the best, Edd———-Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the “Starship Enterprise”C&C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FLwww.StarshipSailing.com———-914.774.9767 | Mobile———-Sent via iPhone 11 ProiPhone. iTypos. iApologizeOn May 23, 2020, at 5:02 PM, David Knecht via CnC-List wrote:Hi Edd- How did you know you needed to change the filter twice on the trip down? Were there symptoms or just being cautious? Dave S/V Aries1990 C&C 34+New London, CT On May 23, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Edd Schillay via CnC-List wrote:Bo,Much will depend on how much you use your engine, how clean your tank is, and the quality of fuel you are using. When the Enterprise came down from New York, she was practically motoring the entire time, adding many hours of engine use in three weeks. For that trip, the filters were changed two times. For normal use, like Josh, I have a fine raycor filter and change that maybe once every several years - or if I can see notable clogging or the engine stalls. The filter on the engine Itself I change once every three years or so. I used to do oil changes and oil filter changes every fall before laying up for the winter. Since there is no real layup season down here in Florida, I still keep to my fall schedule. My engine (Beta 30) came with a maintenance schedule based on engine hours. If you have that for your engine, that should be an excellent guide. All the best, Edd———-Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the “Starship Enterprise”C&C 37+ | Sail No.: NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FLwww.StarshipSailing.com———-914.774.9767 | Mobile———-Sent via iPhone 11 ProiPhone. iTypos. iApologizeOn May 23, 2020, at 12:59 PM, General Gao via CnC-List wrote:Hi everyone, Just wondering, how often do you have to change diesel filters? or how do you tell it is time to change?Thank you,Bo ___Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray___Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray___Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray ___ Thanks
Re: Stus-List Diesel Filter
A vacuum gauge is one of the best cost/benefit ratio improvements you can do. You can save a lot of $$$ in unneeded filter changes and get advanced warning when you do need to change one. Be official: https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=racor+gauge&_sacat=0 Cockpit mount with light: https://moyermarine.com/product/vacuum-gauge-kit-gaug_07-1_532/ (also can be used for manifold vacuum) Cheap: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1-2-Vacuum-Gauge-Chrome-Plated-Steel-Case-1-4-NPT-Lower-Mnt-30-inHg-0/183642544745?hash=item2ac1f2da69:g:2gUAAOSwJiBcQOWz https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIQUID-FILLED-VACUUM-GAUGE-30-0-PSI-2-5-FACE-1-4-NPT-LOWER-MOUNT-WOG/192746480989?hash=item2ce095e55d:g:RiQAAOSwqoxcBW9S Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I On 5/24/2020 3:39 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote: Time and again I have read that Yanmar does not recommend a 2/3 micron primary filter. I therefore use a 10 micron, and use Biobar, as well as some Seafoam. I have some old crud in my tank, but where I can see it through the hole for the sender, the bits I can see are pretty well stuck to the bottom of the tank (and there are not many of them). That said, the boat had sat at the dock for +/- 6 years before I got her, and we have run 150 gallons or so of fuel through the boat in the last 4 years. I change my Racor every year, and I used to change the one on the engine every year as well. This time, I'm going to let the engine mounted one go another year. We still get a fine layer of black "grit" at the bottom of the racor over the year, but it does not appear to hinder the running of the engine. I'd rather swap out a $20 filter once a year than risk the engine shutting down as I go through a bridge opening with 3 kts. of current. To each their own, Bruce ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Diesel Filter
Regarding Joe's post: the official Racor vacuum gage is designed to fit the 500 series racor. The smaller one like I show in my video is no longer available new but was frequently installed on our era boats and is likely to still be on many of them. It is a 200 series. The 200 series has no provision for a t-handle (rather a band clamp) so the official t-gage won't fit. In my video I show having used a brass tee, 2 hose barbs, a street elbow, and an El cheapo vacuum gage which I believe I procured from Amazon. The total package was less than $20. The hose barbs allow it to be installed anywhere on the fuel hose connecting between the racor and the engine. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sun, May 24, 2020, 18:15 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > A vacuum gauge is one of the best cost/benefit ratio improvements you can > do. You can save a lot of $$$ in unneeded filter changes and get advanced > warning when you do need to change one. > > Be official: > > > https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=racor+gauge&_sacat=0 > > Cockpit mount with light: > > https://moyermarine.com/product/vacuum-gauge-kit-gaug_07-1_532/ (also can > be used for manifold vacuum) > > Cheap: > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1-2-Vacuum-Gauge-Chrome-Plated-Steel-Case-1-4-NPT-Lower-Mnt-30-inHg-0/183642544745?hash=item2ac1f2da69:g:2gUAAOSwJiBcQOWz > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIQUID-FILLED-VACUUM-GAUGE-30-0-PSI-2-5-FACE-1-4-NPT-LOWER-MOUNT-WOG/192746480989?hash=item2ce095e55d:g:RiQAAOSwqoxcBW9S > > > Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I > > > On 5/24/2020 3:39 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote: > > Time and again I have read that Yanmar does not recommend a 2/3 micron > primary filter. I therefore use a 10 micron, and use Biobar, as well as > some Seafoam. I have some old crud in my tank, but where I can see it > through the hole for the sender, the bits I can see are pretty well stuck > to the bottom of the tank (and there are not many of them). That said, the > boat had sat at the dock for +/- 6 years before I got her, and we have run > 150 gallons or so of fuel through the boat in the last 4 years. > > I change my Racor every year, and I used to change the one on the engine > every year as well. This time, I'm going to let the engine mounted one go > another year. We still get a fine layer of black "grit" at the bottom of > the racor over the year, but it does not appear to hinder the running of > the engine. > > I'd rather swap out a $20 filter once a year than risk the engine shutting > down as I go through a bridge opening with 3 kts. of current. > > To each their own, > > Bruce > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Diesel Filter
Hi Joe Looking at the guage you've linked to, its obvious the "T" arms go in the fuel line between the Racor and engine. Where does the threaded base of the T go? What is a normal pressure? What pressure reading makes you decide to change filters? Are the lined just clamped with small hose clamps or what? Wade Oh Boy 33-2 On Sun, May 24, 2020, 17:15 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List, < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > A vacuum gauge is one of the best cost/benefit ratio improvements you can > do. You can save a lot of $$$ in unneeded filter changes and get advanced > warning when you do need to change one. > > Be official: > > > https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=racor+gauge&_sacat=0 > > Cockpit mount with light: > > https://moyermarine.com/product/vacuum-gauge-kit-gaug_07-1_532/ (also can > be used for manifold vacuum) > > Cheap: > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1-2-Vacuum-Gauge-Chrome-Plated-Steel-Case-1-4-NPT-Lower-Mnt-30-inHg-0/183642544745?hash=item2ac1f2da69:g:2gUAAOSwJiBcQOWz > > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIQUID-FILLED-VACUUM-GAUGE-30-0-PSI-2-5-FACE-1-4-NPT-LOWER-MOUNT-WOG/192746480989?hash=item2ce095e55d:g:RiQAAOSwqoxcBW9S > > > Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I > > > On 5/24/2020 3:39 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote: > > Time and again I have read that Yanmar does not recommend a 2/3 micron > primary filter. I therefore use a 10 micron, and use Biobar, as well as > some Seafoam. I have some old crud in my tank, but where I can see it > through the hole for the sender, the bits I can see are pretty well stuck > to the bottom of the tank (and there are not many of them). That said, the > boat had sat at the dock for +/- 6 years before I got her, and we have run > 150 gallons or so of fuel through the boat in the last 4 years. > > I change my Racor every year, and I used to change the one on the engine > every year as well. This time, I'm going to let the engine mounted one go > another year. We still get a fine layer of black "grit" at the bottom of > the racor over the year, but it does not appear to hinder the running of > the engine. > > I'd rather swap out a $20 filter once a year than risk the engine shutting > down as I go through a bridge opening with 3 kts. of current. > > To each their own, > > Bruce > > > ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
Re: Stus-List Diesel Filter
Wade, Look at the picture of a 500 series racor in the link below. The factory top has a t handle which is used to tighten the lid. The vacuum gauge which Joe linked replaces that t-handle. The t arms are not used to sense pressure - just for tightening the lid. https://www.ebay.com/itm/172954061164 BTW: these 500 series are notorious for being easily over tightened which warps the lid and causes leaks. The 500 series is 60gph which would be close to 60 times the flow capacity required for any one of our engines. Even with a 2 micron filter I would not expect much if any vacuum being formed, though it should be noted that the vacuum represents the effort required to "lift" the fuel out of the tank AND the effort required to suck the fuel through the filter. Yanmar typically rates their engines for up to 10 feet of lift. Diesel is 34" per psi so 10 feet = ~3.5 psi. Even with no filter element installed the vacuum for 10 feet of vertical lift of diesel fuel would amount to 100 inH2O, 3.5psia or 7 inHg. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Sun, May 24, 2020, 23:03 Wade Glew via CnC-List wrote: > Hi Joe > Looking at the guage you've linked to, its obvious the "T" arms go in the > fuel line between the Racor and engine. Where does the threaded base of the > T go? What is a normal pressure? What pressure reading makes you decide to > change filters? Are the lined just clamped with small hose clamps or what? > Wade > Oh Boy 33-2 > > On Sun, May 24, 2020, 17:15 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List, < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> A vacuum gauge is one of the best cost/benefit ratio improvements you can >> do. You can save a lot of $$$ in unneeded filter changes and get advanced >> warning when you do need to change one. >> >> Be official: >> >> >> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=racor+gauge&_sacat=0 >> >> Cockpit mount with light: >> >> https://moyermarine.com/product/vacuum-gauge-kit-gaug_07-1_532/ (also >> can be used for manifold vacuum) >> >> Cheap: >> >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-1-2-Vacuum-Gauge-Chrome-Plated-Steel-Case-1-4-NPT-Lower-Mnt-30-inHg-0/183642544745?hash=item2ac1f2da69:g:2gUAAOSwJiBcQOWz >> >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/LIQUID-FILLED-VACUUM-GAUGE-30-0-PSI-2-5-FACE-1-4-NPT-LOWER-MOUNT-WOG/192746480989?hash=item2ce095e55d:g:RiQAAOSwqoxcBW9S >> >> >> Joe Coquina C&C 35 MK I >> >> >> On 5/24/2020 3:39 PM, bwhitmore via CnC-List wrote: >> >> Time and again I have read that Yanmar does not recommend a 2/3 micron >> primary filter. I therefore use a 10 micron, and use Biobar, as well as >> some Seafoam. I have some old crud in my tank, but where I can see it >> through the hole for the sender, the bits I can see are pretty well stuck >> to the bottom of the tank (and there are not many of them). That said, the >> boat had sat at the dock for +/- 6 years before I got her, and we have run >> 150 gallons or so of fuel through the boat in the last 4 years. >> >> I change my Racor every year, and I used to change the one on the engine >> every year as well. This time, I'm going to let the engine mounted one go >> another year. We still get a fine layer of black "grit" at the bottom of >> the racor over the year, but it does not appear to hinder the running of >> the engine. >> >> I'd rather swap out a $20 filter once a year than risk the engine >> shutting down as I go through a bridge opening with 3 kts. of current. >> >> To each their own, >> >> Bruce >> >> >> ___ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> ___ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > ___ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
