Re: Stus-List Bimini top with solar panels?

[Olivier Chatot via CnC-List]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/8ySjGTPWTwvEPBQF7

This is what I have. It's a lightweight construction made of wood. It's
large, so great for the tropics. There are two small semitransparent
"skylights" so I can peek at the sails while underway. The solar panels are
screwed onto the roof at the back. The section in the middle is strong
enough to hold an adult, so I can climb up there to unzip the lazy bag. It
works as a raincatcher too. I have to unscrew it to remove it, but I've
never actually done it myself.

Cheers,
Olivier
C&C 38-3



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> https://marinehowto.com/installing-a-solbian-semi-flexible-solar-panel/
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> This approach piqued my interest.
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> Dave 33-2
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> On Sep 20, 2019, at 2:53 PM, Bruce Whitmore 
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> Hello all,
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> I have re-registered to the list using my Gmail account as I was having
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> At any rate, I want to replace our Sunbrella bimini with a combination of
> 100 watt fixed solar panels and translucent polycarbonate structured sheets
> such as those here:  www.hardtotop.com.
>
> One thing though - I want to make sure both the solar panels and the
> plastic are relatively easy to remove due to the risk of hurricanes here in
> Florida.
>
> Has anyone done anything like this, and can you provide pictures?
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> Thanks!
>
> Bruce Whitmore
> 1994 C&C 37/40+ "Astralis"
> Madeira Beach, FL
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Stus-List 33-2 locking bar to prevent table collapse

[Dave S via CnC-List]

Posted to blog - A solution to table leaves which don’t stay securely in the up 
position.

https://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2019/09/saloon-table-upkeeper.html

Dave
33-2

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Stus-List Flooded Batteries

[Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List]

Anyone still use flooded batteries.  Looking to replace 3 weak batteries that 
are causing engine startng issues.
Are the AGM or Gel batteries worth the $$ s.
Thanks in advance.
Peter CowenhovenBranford CTLandfall 35

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Re: Stus-List Flooded Batteries

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

I use flooded.  I'm not convinced that the complications and cost of
alternatives are justified.  Four Trojan T-105RE

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 9:29 PM Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List <
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> Anyone still use flooded batteries.  Looking to replace 3 weak batteries
> that are causing engine startng issues.
>
> Are the AGM or Gel batteries worth the $$ s.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Peter Cowenhoven
> Branford CT
> Landfall 35
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Re: Stus-List Flooded Batteries

[Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List]

 I'm using AGM's only because of the location. House batteries are under
the saloon floor, and sit at an angle.


Doug Mountjoy
sv Rebecca Leah
1988 C&C landfall 39
Port Orchard, WA

On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 6:29 PM Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List <
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> Anyone still use flooded batteries.  Looking to replace 3 weak batteries
> that are causing engine startng issues.
>
> Are the AGM or Gel batteries worth the $$ s.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Peter Cowenhoven
> Branford CT
> Landfall 35
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Re: Stus-List Flooded Batteries

[Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List]

Thanks Doug.  Mine are under the aft quarter berth.  Just thinking of the 
safety of this with kids etc back there.

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Re: Stus-List Flooded Batteries

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

AGM can and will still off gas and overheat so for the most part they carry
similar safety concerns as flooded batteries.  Their biggest safety
advantage is that they are "non-spillable" but really, if they spilled
would it be such that anyone, most of all kids, would be exposed?

Josh

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> Thanks Doug.  Mine are under the aft quarter berth.  Just thinking of the
> safety of this with kids etc back there.
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Re: Stus-List Flooded Batteries

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I also use flooded.  I only use Delco Voyager batteries.  They seem to be a
favorite of professional bass fishermen.

I get 7-8 years service life for about $110 a battery.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA



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> I use flooded.  I'm not convinced that the complications and cost of
> alternatives are justified.  Four Trojan T-105RE
>
> Josh Muckley
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Re: Stus-List Flooded Batteries

[Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List]

Nice, they do seem the cost effective way to go.
In your experience do weak batteries make diesels hard to start. Two weekends 
after sitting all week the starter turns but there is no ignition but there is 
smoke.  Finally on the 4th time it starts and has no issues the rest of the day 
and no smoke??
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Re: Stus-List Flooded Batteries

[Bruno Lachance via CnC-List]

Peter,

Your problem is very likely a very small leak in your fuel system. Your starter 
turns until the system is primed and it will stay fine for few hours, but then 
air gets in again.

I experienced this problem before, my leak was at the secondary fuel filter. 
yanmar 2 GM20F

Bruno Lachance
Bécassine,1987  33-2
New Richmond, Qc

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Le 22 sept. 2019 à 22:22, Peter Cowenhoven via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> a écrit :

Nice, they do seem the cost effective way to go.

In your experience do weak batteries make diesels hard to start. Two weekends 
after sitting all week the starter turns but there is no ignition but there is 
smoke.  Finally on the 4th time it starts and has no issues the rest of the day 
and no smoke??

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Re: Stus-List Flooded Batteries

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Keep in mind that the AGMs require somewhat different charging characteristics. 
Gels are more of a “drop-in” solution.

Since “marine how-tos” were quoted here not so long ago, I would suggest 
visiting that site and doing a bit of reading there. He has plenty of info, 
both plus and minus about the AGMs.

Both (AGM and gel) are much more sensitive to abuse. Flooded can’t be that 
easily murdered and are cheaper.

Any gel can work in any position, even upside down. A major plus on a sailboat 
(hopefully, not the upside down part). And even if they off-gas, this is 
substantially less than the standard flooded cells.

I use gels. Mainly, because they are under the berth in the main cabin. They 
are into their 9th year.

Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON

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Subject: Stus-List Flooded Batteries

Anyone still use flooded batteries.  Looking to replace 3 weak batteries that 
are causing engine startng issues.

Are the AGM or Gel batteries worth the $$ s.

Thanks in advance.

Peter Cowenhoven
Branford CT
Landfall 35

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Re: Stus-List Flooded Batteries

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

If the engine turns over at anything close to a "normal" speed then the
battery is strong enough and not the problem.  You can prime the engine by
operating the flipper on the lift pump or by holding the decompression
levers while running the starter.

The decompression levers are also a way to pre-lube the engine after a long
absence, get the engine to start on weak batteries, and also to shut the
engine down in an emergency.

Josh



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> Nice, they do seem the cost effective way to go.
>
> In your experience do weak batteries make diesels hard to start. Two
> weekends after sitting all week the starter turns but there is no ignition
> but there is smoke.  Finally on the 4th time it starts and has no issues
> the rest of the day and no smoke??
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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> Nice, they do seem the cost effective way to go.
>
> In your experience do weak batteries make diesels hard to start. Two
> weekends after sitting all week the starter turns but there is no ignition
> but there is smoke.  Finally on the 4th time it starts and has no issues
> the rest of the day and no smoke??
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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Re: Stus-List Flooded Batteries

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Thanks for the knowledge everyone.


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