Re: Stus-List FWD: 2018 C&C Northeast Rendezvous -- The Details (Registration Closes Friday, 3:00p)

2018-08-31 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
Edd,

I fully appreciate you pulling the Northeast C&C rendezvous together.
Sorry, I've been in coma all summer.
I was suddenly let go from my job in July and I've been enjoying some 
unexpected but rare time off and got back into windsurfing. My boat is on the 
hard near Baltimore in the Chesapeake Bay and it's been too hot to work on it. 
I hope to join your rendezvous by driving up. It appears that Saturday night 
looks the best for me. Do I need to register if I'm just driving up? (I make a 
really great chili and might bring that to the potluck.)

Chuck Scheaffer, 1990 C&C 34R, Resolute


> On August 29, 2018 at 1:00 PM Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers,
> 
> The below message was just sent to our registered attendees to the 2018 
> C&C Northeast Rendezvous at Milford, CT. 
> There is still time to join in, but registration will close this Friday 
> (day after tomorrow) at 3:00pm. 
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Edd
> 
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Edd Schillay mailto:e...@trial.com >
> Subject: 2018 C&C Northeast Rendezvous -- The Details
> 
> 
> C&C’ers:
>  
> First and foremost, we are looking forward to seeing you 
> at our 2018 C&C Northeast Rendezvous in Milford, CT! This email covers some 
> of the details of the event – please do read it carefully and let me know if 
> any changes need to be made in regards to your boat’s details.
>  
> The extended weather forecast looks phenomenal, showing 
> mostly sunny to partly cloudy skies, with highs in the upper 70’s and lows in 
> the mid 60’s.
>  
> We have a series of docks reserved at Milford Lisman 
> Landing Marina – located at the very end of Milford Harbor. The channel is 
> plenty deep, but mind your charts.
>  
> (chart image removed due to List message size limits)
>  
> These are floating docks with 30A power, and the marina 
> features restrooms and showers. On approach, contact the marina at VHF 
> Channel 9 with your boat’s name. Your reservation has been made and dockage 
> fees are all pre-paid. Reservation details:
>  
> Boat Name
> Model
> Arrival
> Departure
> Starship Enterprise
> C&C 37+
> Thu, Sept 6
> Sun, Sept 9
> Weatherly
> C&C 35
> Fri, Sept 7
> Sun, Sept 9
> Aries
> C&C 34+
> Fri, Sept 7
> Sat, Sept 8
> Hideaway
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Fri, Sept 7
> Sun, Sept 9
> Olivia Grace
> C&C Landfall 38
> Fri, Sept 7
> Sat, Sept 8
> Knot Again
> C&C 35 Mk III
> Fri, Sept 7
> Sun, Sept 9
> Destrier
> C&C 30
> Fri, Sept 7
> Sun, Sept 9
>  
> The marina is a short walk to Broad Street (shops, 
> restaurants) and Wilcox Park. For those of you with a sweet tooth, Milford’s 
> Scoopy Doo’s Ice Cream Shop is next door.  
>  
> As for the swag – aside from name tags and neck wallets, 
> each boat will receive a beach bag, a collapsible nylon backpack and a pen 
> with stylus tip compliments of my organization, The Network of Trial Law 
> Firms. 
>  
> Dinner for the first night will be at the marina’s picnic 
> area overlooking the harbor. It’s a completely unorganized pot luck, so bring 
> whatever dish you like as well as paper plates and plasticware. Before 
> retiring for the evening, we’ll climb aboard a cockpit or two for cocktails 
> and cigars (bring your own), as I like to call it “C&C’s on C&C’s.”
>  
> On Saturday, we can have informal boat tours of each 
> other’s boats as well as enjoy the day in Milford. Walk around, play in the 
> park or relax on your C&C.
>  
> On Saturday night, 6:00p, attendees from Enterprise (2), 
> Weatherly (3), Hideaway (4), and Knot Again (2) have a patio reservation at 
> Archie Moore’s Pub and Restaurant. Included in the above-mentioned boats’ 
> reservation is a complete appetizer package of buffalo wings, chicken 
> fingers, cheese quesadillas and eggplant fries, along with soda/coffee. If 
> you’d like something more or different, beer or alcohol, or something more 
> healthy (God forbid), there is a full menu to order from (pay restaurant 
> separately).
>  
> Afterwards, we can do more “C&C’s on C&C’s” before 
> turning in and our voyages back home the next morning.
>  
> Finally, here’s a list of who’s who (* means included in 
> Archie Moore’s dinner):
>  
> Boat Name
> Attendee 1
> Attendee 2
> Attendee 3
> Attendee 4
> Starship Enterprise
> Edd Schillay*
> Ellen Schillay*
>  
>  
> Weatherly
> Neil Gallagher*
> Marie Gallagher*
> Maureen Gallagher”
>  
> Aries
> David Knecht
> Lori Smolin
>  
>  
> Hideaway
> John Pratt*
> Joe Bernz*
> Jane B

Stus-List Long Island

2018-08-31 Thread Barry Lenoble via CnC-List
Hello Again,

Melville is pretty much the center of Long Island.

With one day to see stuff I would recommend going north into the town of
Huntington. There are some nice parks and museums there. 

Vanderbilt Museum, Mansion & Planetarium
https://www.vanderbiltmuseum.org/
Vanderbilt invented the 'vanderbilt start' in yacht racing

Caumsett State Park
https://parks.ny.gov/parks/23/details.aspx

Target Rock 
https://www.fws.gov/refuge/Target_Rock/about.html
Where the legend has the British using the large rock for target practice
during the revolutionary war

Huntington has a number of nice marina's if you want to look at boats.

If you want to visit an ocean beach go south to Robert Moses State Park or
Jones Beach. Both are some of the best ocean beaches in the world.

Don't bother trying to go east to the north fork or the hamptons. It will
take too long.

If you or your wife want shopping there is a large upscale mall very close
by. You can't miss it.

If you like aviation, the Cradle of Aviation museum of not too far away and
worth a visit.
https://www.cradleofaviation.org/

There is also Old Westbury Gardens and Mansion, Bethpage restoration
village, 

And that's all I can think of in 5 minutes or less

Barry



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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 12:46:10 -0500
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I'll be in the Melville area.

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Re: Stus-List Attractions on Long Island?

2018-08-31 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
We tour the North Fork routinely for both biking and boating.  When we were at 
the Greenport Rendezvous last year, we had a great time touring the small 
maritime museum by the ferry dock, and then toured the NY Fireboat which is 
moored next to the ferry dock and is being refurbished by a bunch of former 
firefighters and others.  They showed us everything on board stem to stern.  
Both are free and both very enjoyable.  Greenport also has a chandlery/vintage 
yachting junk store a short walk away.  You could drive to Sag Harbor, count 
the Maserratti’s parked on the street, look at the huge motor and sail yachts 
on the docks, have lunch at Espresso (best sandwiches around) take the ferry to 
Shelter Island, drive across and take the ferry to Greenport, see the sights 
and reverse the ferry trips.  We do that trip by bike every year and always 
enjoy it.  Dave
PS to whomever posted- I grew up a stone’s throw from Melville in South 
Huntington and sailed out of Huntington Harbor in my youth


> On Aug 30, 2018, at 2:09 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> I am a member of Mystic Seaport Museum in Mystic Conn and know you could 
> spend a full day there.  They have the whaler Charles W Morton, the sail 
> training ship Joseph Conrad, The Grand Banks schooner LA Duntan and many 
> other fine yachts. 
> 
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
>> On August 30, 2018 at 10:23 AM "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> I will be accompanying the Admiral as she makes a business trip to central 
>> Long Island in a couple weeks.  I'll have a free day or two.  I see some 
>> maritime museums listed in the area.  Any of them worthwhile?  Any other 
>> things that are recommended?
>> 
>> Dennis C. 
>> Touche' 35-1 #83
>> Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List FW: Racing and Cruising sails for sale

2018-08-31 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List
Revised list

 

A variety of racing and cruising sails that will fit C&C 33 - 35' sailboats
 
1. Doyle cruising laminate blade in good condition  Luff 43'11", Foot
13' 8", Leech 40' 5" $500 usd
2. Doyle dacron mainsail in good conditions with slugs Luff 39.5' Foot
12'10" $800 usd
3. Doyle racing blade new/unused $2000 usd obo cost $4000 Luff 44.7'.
Foot 13.62', Leech 42.7' (SOLD)
4. Evolution racing genoa Luff 44' 8", Foot 20.5' Leech 43' 6" $1200 usd
5. One racing North symmetrical spinnaker good condition.  Will fit
boats with an I of 46' and a J of 13.5'$650 usd obo
6. One reaching sail $300 usd.
 
Photos of most available on request.  Email  
strig...@eastlink.ca for more information.
 
Rod Stright
C&C 99 2004 
 
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Stus-List Holding tanks

2018-08-31 Thread Dave. via CnC-List
SLY has been using a Type 1 Sanitation System but these are no longer legal in 
Puget Sound so we need to install a holding tank. Yuck! I looked in our 
original C&C manual and found a 15.5 gallon holding tank listed. Not sure if 
these were standard issue or an option but SLY did not come to us with a 
holding tank. So my questions are:
1. Where were the holding tanks installed? 
2. What were there configuration? Dimensions?
3. Are these units or similar units available and from whom?
Thanks again for your collective thoughts.
Dave. Kaseler
SLY
1975 C&C 33



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Re: Stus-List Holding tanks

2018-08-31 Thread Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List
Dave, Not sure on tank size or where it is installed, but MARINE Sanitation 
next door to fisheries is a great placed to source the tank from. Is there an 
old deck fill for the head? That would give you an idea of where the tank might 
have been.  Having just replumbed my fwd head. I would put the tank as close as 
possible. 


Doug Mountjoy Rebecca Leah LF39 Port Orchard YC, WA.


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Re: Stus-List Holding tanks

2018-08-31 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Don't know about the 33, but my 1978 34 (similar boat) had the holding tank 
under the forward berths.  Although the tank was unique in shape, I found a 
replacement at Ronco that fit perfectly.  Shipping costs are high, 
unfortunately.


http://ronco-plastics.com/newRonco/ProductCatalogs/Marine2017.pdf

-Original Message- 
From: Dave. via CnC-List

Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 4:55 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: kasel...@q.com
Subject: Stus-List Holding tanks

SLY has been using a Type 1 Sanitation System but these are no longer legal 
in Puget Sound so we need to install a holding tank. Yuck! I looked in our 
original C&C manual and found a 15.5 gallon holding tank listed. Not sure if 
these were standard issue or an option but SLY did not come to us with a 
holding tank. So my questions are:

1. Where were the holding tanks installed?
2. What were there configuration? Dimensions?
3. Are these units or similar units available and from whom?
Thanks again for your collective thoughts.
Dave. Kaseler
SLY
1975 C&C 33



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Re: Stus-List FWD: 2018 C&C Northeast Rendezvous -- The Details (Registration Closes Friday, 3:00p)

2018-08-31 Thread David via CnC-List
To all those attending.the 2018 Rendezvous.   Have a great time.  We would.live 
to be there but for the inconvenience of.a wedding in September (WTF!).

To adequately thank Edd for all of his hard work, and don't tell I said this, 
is to offer him, neigh, insist, on he having lots and.lots of Tequila shots.   
Yup.  He loves it!   Even when he is saying "no mas!" Down it goes.  He will 
thank you for it in the morning.

Have one for us too...

Corsair and her caretakers.


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Re: Stus-List FWD: 2018 C&C Northeast Rendezvous -- The Details (Registration Closes Friday, 3:00p)

2018-08-31 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
One of the best moments from last year’s rendezvous:

https://youtu.be/0WKRIDnFDls

All the best, 

Edd

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C&C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, New York
www.StarshipSailing.com
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On Aug 31, 2018, at 7:37 PM, David via CnC-List  wrote:

To all those attending.the 2018 Rendezvous.   Have a great time.  We would.live 
to be there but for the inconvenience of.a wedding in September (WTF!).   

To adequately thank Edd for all of his hard work, and don't tell I said this, 
is to offer him, neigh, insist, on he having lots and.lots of Tequila shots.   
Yup.  He loves it!   Even when he is saying "no mas!" Down it goes.  He will 
thank you for it in the morning.

Have one for us too...

Corsair and her caretakers.


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Stus-List Deck core repair advice sought

2018-08-31 Thread James Bibb via CnC-List
I have some soft deck repair anticipated around my mast opening…above head on 
port cabin leading edge where folks jump the halyards and foredeck area where 
the bowman has been working since 1991. 

1991 C&C 34-36R so the deck is composite. I assume also of the most part 
however the brief design notes mention a mixture of kevlar and balsa.  Does 
anybody know where the distinction is around the boat?  

I’ll be removing the mast for this work.  

Also…from below or above?  I really want to leave the gelcoat intake and if I 
can work on the boat over the next few months…have the heated cabin environment 
to help curing. 

Anybody been down this road?

Also….need to find a replacement mast boot.  The current one is worn and needs 
replacing. 


Thanks!

James Bibb

SV Darwins Folly 
1991 C&C 34-36R
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Re: Stus-List Deck core repair advice sought

2018-08-31 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Mine is a 37+ but I presume that much of the design and construction is
similar.

The design notes regarding Kevlar have it as part of the layup. I think Ken
Heaton might have a better idea but the idea is that the Kevlar simply
makes up some of the layers of matting/roving in the fiberglass. I would
expect it in the hull and would not be surprised to see it in the deck.
Hard to say if it would be preferentially placed in the inner or outer skin.

As for the core, I was anticipating deck rot when I had my mast pulled.  To
my pleasant surprise the cabin top directly around the mast is not cored.
Throughout the boat you can see where coring starts and stops by the
thickness changing.  A perfect example is near the toe rail.  There is a 3"
wide deck section all the way around the boat.  I thought it was just a
gutter.  It is, but it is also an area which is not cored.  Same thing in
the anchor locker as the hull walls approach the toe rail.  Repairs from in
the cabin have the challenge of not having direct access to the cabin top
since there is a "headliner".  You can inspect and get an idea of what lies
ahead but in order to re-core you would want unfettered access to the
entire area of rot.  You'd be best cut around the rim to remove the entire
headliner.  I do like the idea of not disturbing the outer skin.  If you
end up going the outside route I suggest trying to keep as much of the skin
together as a single piece or symmetrical pieces.  A product I like that
can finish off this type of work is kiwi-grip.  It is a urethane non-skid
with a thick coat and variable texture.  It covers seams in the skins great.

Rig-rit sells mast boot tape which I like.  Black 2mm thick, 5' wide.
http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Mast_boot_%20Tape.php

As much as I liked the product, when I had my mast re-stepped the yard used
what they had and it seemed like almost exactly the same except that it was
even wider - Like 6 or 7 inches.  Call Zanhizers in Solomons MD and they
can probably send you a roll.  You might have to talk to Phil or Jack.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 8:27 PM James Bibb via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I have some soft deck repair anticipated around my mast opening…above head
> on port cabin leading edge where folks jump the halyards and foredeck area
> where the bowman has been working since 1991.
>
> 1991 C&C 34-36R so the deck is composite. I assume also of the most part
> however the brief design notes mention a mixture of kevlar and balsa.  Does
> anybody know where the distinction is around the boat?
>
> I’ll be removing the mast for this work.
>
> Also…from below or above?  I really want to leave the gelcoat intake and
> if I can work on the boat over the next few months…have the heated cabin
> environment to help curing.
>
> Anybody been down this road?
>
> Also….need to find a replacement mast boot.  The current one is worn and
> needs replacing.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> James Bibb
>
> SV Darwins Folly
> 1991 C&C 34-36R
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Re: Stus-List Attractions on Long Island?

2018-08-31 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
The owner of that chandlery kicked a group of us out last year and the
owner threatened to call the cops after I voiced my discontent while
standing on the public sidewalk.  Cool store with overpriced used marine
junk but the owner...not so much.  Worst thing was the group was there to
buy stuff with money in hand in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.  My
wife was even ogling the jewelry too.  We weren't just lookie-lous with no
intention of purchasing.  Great way to treat the tourists!

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 11:12 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> We tour the North Fork routinely for both biking and boating.  When we
> were at the Greenport Rendezvous last year, we had a great time touring the
> small maritime museum by the ferry dock, and then toured the NY Fireboat
> which is moored next to the ferry dock and is being refurbished by a bunch
> of former firefighters and others.  They showed us everything on board stem
> to stern.  Both are free and both very enjoyable.  Greenport also has a
> chandlery/vintage yachting junk store a short walk away.  You could drive
> to Sag Harbor, count the Maserratti’s parked on the street, look at the
> huge motor and sail yachts on the docks, have lunch at Espresso (best
> sandwiches around) take the ferry to Shelter Island, drive across and take
> the ferry to Greenport, see the sights and reverse the ferry trips.  We do
> that trip by bike every year and always enjoy it.  Dave
> PS to whomever posted- I grew up a stone’s throw from Melville in South
> Huntington and sailed out of Huntington Harbor in my youth
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2018, at 2:09 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> I am a member of Mystic Seaport Museum in Mystic Conn and know you could
> spend a full day there.  They have the whaler Charles W Morton, the sail
> training ship Joseph Conrad, The Grand Banks schooner LA Duntan and many
> other fine yachts.
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
> On August 30, 2018 at 10:23 AM "Dennis C. via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I will be accompanying the Admiral as she makes a business trip to central
> Long Island in a couple weeks.  I'll have a free day or two.  I see some
> maritime museums listed in the area.  Any of them worthwhile?  Any other
> things that are recommended?
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
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> University of Connecticut
> 91 N. Eagleville Rd.
> Storrs, CT 06269-3125
>
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Re: Stus-List Deck core repair advice sought

2018-08-31 Thread James Bibb via CnC-List
Thanks Josh!  I bet we have a similar deck as well.  This helps me out.  

I have no head liner…beauty of the stripped down version so I have everything 
accessible.  

Thanks. 



> On Aug 31, 2018, at 5:05 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mine is a 37+ but I presume that much of the design and construction is 
> similar.
> 
> The design notes regarding Kevlar have it as part of the layup. I think Ken 
> Heaton might have a better idea but the idea is that the Kevlar simply makes 
> up some of the layers of matting/roving in the fiberglass. I would expect it 
> in the hull and would not be surprised to see it in the deck. Hard to say if 
> it would be preferentially placed in the inner or outer skin.
> 
> As for the core, I was anticipating deck rot when I had my mast pulled.  To 
> my pleasant surprise the cabin top directly around the mast is not cored.  
> Throughout the boat you can see where coring starts and stops by the 
> thickness changing.  A perfect example is near the toe rail.  There is a 3" 
> wide deck section all the way around the boat.  I thought it was just a 
> gutter.  It is, but it is also an area which is not cored.  Same thing in the 
> anchor locker as the hull walls approach the toe rail.  Repairs from in the 
> cabin have the challenge of not having direct access to the cabin top since 
> there is a "headliner".  You can inspect and get an idea of what lies ahead 
> but in order to re-core you would want unfettered access to the entire area 
> of rot.  You'd be best cut around the rim to remove the entire headliner.  I 
> do like the idea of not disturbing the outer skin.  If you end up going the 
> outside route I suggest trying to keep as much of the skin together as a 
> single piece or symmetrical pieces.  A product I like that can finish off 
> this type of work is kiwi-grip.  It is a urethane non-skid with a thick coat 
> and variable texture.  It covers seams in the skins great.
> 
> Rig-rit sells mast boot tape which I like.  Black 2mm thick, 5' wide. 
> http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Mast_boot_%20Tape.php 
> 
> 
> As much as I liked the product, when I had my mast re-stepped the yard used 
> what they had and it seemed like almost exactly the same except that it was 
> even wider - Like 6 or 7 inches.  Call Zanhizers in Solomons MD and they can 
> probably send you a roll.  You might have to talk to Phil or Jack.
> 
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk 
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 8:27 PM James Bibb via CnC-List  > wrote:
> I have some soft deck repair anticipated around my mast opening…above head on 
> port cabin leading edge where folks jump the halyards and foredeck area where 
> the bowman has been working since 1991. 
> 
> 1991 C&C 34-36R so the deck is composite. I assume also of the most part 
> however the brief design notes mention a mixture of kevlar and balsa.  Does 
> anybody know where the distinction is around the boat?  
> 
> I’ll be removing the mast for this work.  
> 
> Also…from below or above?  I really want to leave the gelcoat intake and if I 
> can work on the boat over the next few months…have the heated cabin 
> environment to help curing. 
> 
> Anybody been down this road?
> 
> Also….need to find a replacement mast boot.  The current one is worn and 
> needs replacing. 
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> James Bibb
> 
> SV Darwins Folly 
> 1991 C&C 34-36R
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Re: Stus-List Attractions on Long Island?

2018-08-31 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
In the store owner’s defense, Josh is a bit of a rabble-rouser. 

At our C&C Rendezvous lunch at the Mexican Restaurant, he had more than his 
fair share of nachos and I believe an extra chicken wing. 

Textbook anarchist. 

All the best, 

Edd

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On Aug 31, 2018, at 9:16 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List  
wrote:

The owner of that chandlery kicked a group of us out last year and the owner 
threatened to call the cops after I voiced my discontent while standing on the 
public sidewalk.  Cool store with overpriced used marine junk but the 
owner...not so much.  Worst thing was the group was there to buy stuff with 
money in hand in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.  My wife was even ogling 
the jewelry too.  We weren't just lookie-lous with no intention of purchasing.  
Great way to treat the tourists!

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk 
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD



> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 11:12 AM David Knecht via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> We tour the North Fork routinely for both biking and boating.  When we were 
> at the Greenport Rendezvous last year, we had a great time touring the small 
> maritime museum by the ferry dock, and then toured the NY Fireboat which is 
> moored next to the ferry dock and is being refurbished by a bunch of former 
> firefighters and others.  They showed us everything on board stem to stern.  
> Both are free and both very enjoyable.  Greenport also has a 
> chandlery/vintage yachting junk store a short walk away.  You could drive to 
> Sag Harbor, count the Maserratti’s parked on the street, look at the huge 
> motor and sail yachts on the docks, have lunch at Espresso (best sandwiches 
> around) take the ferry to Shelter Island, drive across and take the ferry to 
> Greenport, see the sights and reverse the ferry trips.  We do that trip by 
> bike every year and always enjoy it.  Dave
> PS to whomever posted- I grew up a stone’s throw from Melville in South 
> Huntington and sailed out of Huntington Harbor in my youth
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Re: Stus-List Deck core repair advice sought

2018-08-31 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
I know the R is stripped down but no inner fiberglass tray to hide wires
and lights?

Josh

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 9:19 PM James Bibb via CnC-List 
wrote:

> Thanks Josh!  I bet we have a similar deck as well.  This helps me out.
>
> I have no head liner…beauty of the stripped down version so I have
> everything accessible.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2018, at 5:05 PM, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Mine is a 37+ but I presume that much of the design and construction is
> similar.
>
> The design notes regarding Kevlar have it as part of the layup. I think
> Ken Heaton might have a better idea but the idea is that the Kevlar simply
> makes up some of the layers of matting/roving in the fiberglass. I would
> expect it in the hull and would not be surprised to see it in the deck.
> Hard to say if it would be preferentially placed in the inner or outer skin.
>
> As for the core, I was anticipating deck rot when I had my mast pulled.
> To my pleasant surprise the cabin top directly around the mast is not
> cored.  Throughout the boat you can see where coring starts and stops by
> the thickness changing.  A perfect example is near the toe rail.  There is
> a 3" wide deck section all the way around the boat.  I thought it was just
> a gutter.  It is, but it is also an area which is not cored.  Same thing in
> the anchor locker as the hull walls approach the toe rail.  Repairs from in
> the cabin have the challenge of not having direct access to the cabin top
> since there is a "headliner".  You can inspect and get an idea of what lies
> ahead but in order to re-core you would want unfettered access to the
> entire area of rot.  You'd be best cut around the rim to remove the entire
> headliner.  I do like the idea of not disturbing the outer skin.  If you
> end up going the outside route I suggest trying to keep as much of the skin
> together as a single piece or symmetrical pieces.  A product I like that
> can finish off this type of work is kiwi-grip.  It is a urethane non-skid
> with a thick coat and variable texture.  It covers seams in the skins great.
>
> Rig-rit sells mast boot tape which I like.  Black 2mm thick, 5' wide.
> http://www.rigrite.com/Spars/SparParts/Mast_boot_%20Tape.php
>
> As much as I liked the product, when I had my mast re-stepped the yard
> used what they had and it seemed like almost exactly the same except that
> it was even wider - Like 6 or 7 inches.  Call Zanhizers in Solomons MD and
> they can probably send you a roll.  You might have to talk to Phil or Jack.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018, 8:27 PM James Bibb via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I have some soft deck repair anticipated around my mast opening…above
>> head on port cabin leading edge where folks jump the halyards and foredeck
>> area where the bowman has been working since 1991.
>>
>> 1991 C&C 34-36R so the deck is composite. I assume also of the most part
>> however the brief design notes mention a mixture of kevlar and balsa.  Does
>> anybody know where the distinction is around the boat?
>>
>> I’ll be removing the mast for this work.
>>
>> Also…from below or above?  I really want to leave the gelcoat intake and
>> if I can work on the boat over the next few months…have the heated cabin
>> environment to help curing.
>>
>> Anybody been down this road?
>>
>> Also….need to find a replacement mast boot.  The current one is worn and
>> needs replacing.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> James Bibb
>>
>> SV Darwins Folly
>> 1991 C&C 34-36R
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Re: Stus-List Holding tanks

2018-08-31 Thread Brad Crawford via CnC-List
Go visit marine sanitation supply next to fisheries supplies, they can help you 
out.

Brad
Dora  Pearl
C&C 36
Seattle

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> On Aug 31, 2018, at 1:55 PM, Dave. via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> SLY has been using a Type 1 Sanitation System but these are no longer legal 
> in Puget Sound so we need to install a holding tank. Yuck! I looked in our 
> original C&C manual and found a 15.5 gallon holding tank listed. Not sure if 
> these were standard issue or an option but SLY did not come to us with a 
> holding tank. So my questions are:
> 1. Where were the holding tanks installed? 
> 2. What were there configuration? Dimensions?
> 3. Are these units or similar units available and from whom?
> Thanks again for your collective thoughts.
> Dave. Kaseler
> SLY
> 1975 C&C 33
> 
> 
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