Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
Definitely get a Cunningham so you can properly trim the main upwind in a
breeze. I here you on price. That $1500 sounds very reasonable!

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016, 6:44 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> My 135 came from There. I am very pleased with it and would not hesitate
> to buy from them again. The flow stripes are also known as draft stripes.
> Just colored tape to let you see how much of a belly you having your sail
>
> Joel
>
>
> On Friday, March 25, 2016, Andrew Means via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all -
>>
>> As part of the long list of refinements and upgrades we need to make on
>> the Safari, we’re looking at getting a new main sail from Rolly Tasker via
>> National Sails in FL. Here’s the details of the quote:
>>
>> *C&C 34 *(Does anybody feel like confirming that I’ve got these
>> measurements correct?)
>> I = 44’
>> J = 14
>> P = 38.25
>> E  = 10.92
>>
>> *Fully Battened Mainsail - *Challenge 8.3oz High Modulus Dacron, 2 reefs
>> - $1,459
>> Comes with leech lines with clam cleats, tell tales, flo-stripes*, and
>> sail bags. Construction includes triple-stitched seams, large radial corner
>> reinforcements, with handsewn leather chafe protection.
>>
>>
>> Seems like 8 out of 10 folks have overall positive experience with RT
>> sails. There are scattered reports of quality issues, but I’m inclined to
>> see that as a risk of any production sail loft. Have any of you ordered
>> from them before? What’s been your experience? I’m inquiring about adding a
>> cunningham and seeing what our options are for the slugs. Are there other
>> options you’d recommend I request?
>>
>> Before anybody suggests I go to a custom sailmaker to get a super high
>> quality sail, the price is really what we can afford right now; if we need
>> to spend more money to get a decent sail then we’ll have to wait another
>> season or two to replace our (very tired) main. Willing to do that if
>> enough folks wave us off RT, but hoping this could be a great solution for
>> our casual cruising needs!
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> *What the heck are Flo-Stripes?
>> --
>> Andrew Means
>> S.V. Safari - 1977 C&C 34 MK I
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>
>
> --
> Joel
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Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
$1500 is a third of what I paid for my main.  Great price!  My only concern
would be, do you have the knowledge to detect design or build flaws?  If
you found flaws, what would your recourse be?

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Mar 25, 2016 8:35 PM, "Andrew Means via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hey all -
>
> As part of the long list of refinements and upgrades we need to make on
> the Safari, we’re looking at getting a new main sail from Rolly Tasker via
> National Sails in FL. Here’s the details of the quote:
>
> *C&C 34 *(Does anybody feel like confirming that I’ve got these
> measurements correct?)
> I = 44’
> J = 14
> P = 38.25
> E  = 10.92
>
> *Fully Battened Mainsail - *Challenge 8.3oz High Modulus Dacron, 2 reefs
> - $1,459
> Comes with leech lines with clam cleats, tell tales, flo-stripes*, and
> sail bags. Construction includes triple-stitched seams, large radial corner
> reinforcements, with handsewn leather chafe protection.
>
>
> Seems like 8 out of 10 folks have overall positive experience with RT
> sails. There are scattered reports of quality issues, but I’m inclined to
> see that as a risk of any production sail loft. Have any of you ordered
> from them before? What’s been your experience? I’m inquiring about adding a
> cunningham and seeing what our options are for the slugs. Are there other
> options you’d recommend I request?
>
> Before anybody suggests I go to a custom sailmaker to get a super high
> quality sail, the price is really what we can afford right now; if we need
> to spend more money to get a decent sail then we’ll have to wait another
> season or two to replace our (very tired) main. Willing to do that if
> enough folks wave us off RT, but hoping this could be a great solution for
> our casual cruising needs!
>
> Andrew
>
> *What the heck are Flo-Stripes?
> --
> Andrew Means
> S.V. Safari - 1977 C&C 34 MK I
> Seattle, WA
>
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Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
I did lots of sail research and I came to the same conclusion you did about 
Rolly Tasker.  However,  I ended up going local on my last boat because they 
offered a boat show discount which brought them much closer.  I intended on 
keeping that boat fur a long time and thought the higher quality would last 
longer.   I ended up selling the boat after 4 seasons and the sails were still 
"like new" according to the loft.  I do tend to bring my sails in for service 
and storage every year.  
I'd be willing to bet those RT sails will be fine for a few years.  Especially 
if you have them inspected regularly. 
My only actual experience with an RT sail is that my current boat came with one 
fur a head sail.  The material seemed ok,  crisp, but it was a mess.  Sun cover 
coming off,  stitching coming out everywhere,  bagged out like crazy,  some 
shredding at the leach.  I think that sail stayed on the Furler all year long 
for many years though, and was never in for inspection or service ever.  I 
think of sails like engines and they need to be cared for regularly.  I think 
it cost me a couple hundred a year,  more if they need anything like chafe 
patches. 
Anyway,  my $0.02 worth of advice
DannyMattapoisett, MA 


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Andrew Means via CnC-List  Date: 3/25/2016  8:34 PM  
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 Subject: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails 
Hey all - 
As part of the long list of refinements and upgrades we need to make on the 
Safari, we’re looking at getting a new main sail from Rolly Tasker via National 
Sails in FL. Here’s the details of the quote:
C&C 34 (Does anybody feel like confirming that I’ve got these measurements 
correct?)I = 44’J = 14P = 38.25E  = 10.92
Fully Battened Mainsail - Challenge 8.3oz High Modulus Dacron, 2 reefs - 
$1,459Comes with leech lines with clam cleats, tell tales, flo-stripes*, and 
sail bags. Construction includes triple-stitched seams, large radial corner 
reinforcements, with handsewn leather chafe protection.
Seems like 8 out of 10 folks have overall positive experience with RT sails. 
There are scattered reports of quality issues, but I’m inclined to see that as 
a risk of any production sail loft. Have any of you ordered from them before? 
What’s been your experience? I’m inquiring about adding a cunningham and seeing 
what our options are for the slugs. Are there other options you’d recommend I 
request? 
Before anybody suggests I go to a custom sailmaker to get a super high quality 
sail, the price is really what we can afford right now; if we need to spend 
more money to get a decent sail then we’ll have to wait another season or two 
to replace our (very tired) main. Willing to do that if enough folks wave us 
off RT, but hoping this could be a great solution for our casual cruising needs!
Andrew
*What the heck are Flo-Stripes?-- 
Andrew Means
S.V. Safari - 1977 C&C 34 MK ISeattle, WA___

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Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
Oh one more thing,  I'd recommend getting a price from precision.  They'll help 
make aye your measuring is within reason.   They spent hours on the phone with 
me for the replacement of that RT I was trelling you about.  You can get an 
online quote within hours.   They'd give you 3 300, 400 & 500 series pricing. 
I imagine they'll be right there with RT.  They're are Canada based so may 
ashtray have a pattern for your boat. 
Again I have no stake in precision sails other than having a brand new,  unused 
sail from them in the next room! 
Danny


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Andrew Means via CnC-List  Date: 3/25/2016  8:34 PM  
(GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Means 
 Subject: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails 
Hey all - 
As part of the long list of refinements and upgrades we need to make on the 
Safari, we’re looking at getting a new main sail from Rolly Tasker via National 
Sails in FL. Here’s the details of the quote:
C&C 34 (Does anybody feel like confirming that I’ve got these measurements 
correct?)I = 44’J = 14P = 38.25E  = 10.92
Fully Battened Mainsail - Challenge 8.3oz High Modulus Dacron, 2 reefs - 
$1,459Comes with leech lines with clam cleats, tell tales, flo-stripes*, and 
sail bags. Construction includes triple-stitched seams, large radial corner 
reinforcements, with handsewn leather chafe protection.
Seems like 8 out of 10 folks have overall positive experience with RT sails. 
There are scattered reports of quality issues, but I’m inclined to see that as 
a risk of any production sail loft. Have any of you ordered from them before? 
What’s been your experience? I’m inquiring about adding a cunningham and seeing 
what our options are for the slugs. Are there other options you’d recommend I 
request? 
Before anybody suggests I go to a custom sailmaker to get a super high quality 
sail, the price is really what we can afford right now; if we need to spend 
more money to get a decent sail then we’ll have to wait another season or two 
to replace our (very tired) main. Willing to do that if enough folks wave us 
off RT, but hoping this could be a great solution for our casual cruising needs!
Andrew
*What the heck are Flo-Stripes?-- 
Andrew Means
S.V. Safari - 1977 C&C 34 MK ISeattle, WA___

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Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Rjcasciato via CnC-List
Andrew:

 

Definitely ask for the Cunningham ring..it should be an easy
addition

 

AS far as the sail slugs goI strongly recommend looking at the Tides
Marine Strong Trackit is a nylon/Delrin track that slides up inside your
original sail slot and the slugs are now polished stainless that slide very
easily up and down..on my 38MKII, with a luff of 45', I can raise the
main to within about 6 feet of the masthead before using the winch to get it
trimmed...

 

https://www.tidesmarine.com/sailtrack   

 

Considering that your crew may be short on numbers and skill, that one item
made my 38 a simple dream to operate.even my wife can raise it most of
the way up herself.

 

I did the track install myself in 1998 and it is still intact and working
great today..

 

I'm not sure of the pricing, but since your Rolly Tasker representative is
in Florida??? So is Tides MarineI'm sure they know each other.  The sail
does have to have the slugs installed when they make it..you could do it
yourself, but your sailmaker is equipped to do it better..

 

My $0.50 worth,

 

Best

Ron C

 

  _  

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:43 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

 

My 135 came from There. I am very pleased with it and would not hesitate to
buy from them again. The flow stripes are also known as draft stripes.  Just
colored tape to let you see how much of a belly you having your sail

 

Joel 

On Friday, March 25, 2016, Andrew Means via CnC-List 
wrote:

Hey all - 

 

As part of the long list of refinements and upgrades we need to make on the
Safari, we're looking at getting a new main sail from Rolly Tasker via
National Sails in FL. Here's the details of the quote:

 

C&C 34 (Does anybody feel like confirming that I've got these measurements
correct?)

I = 44'

J = 14

P = 38.25

E  = 10.92

 

Fully Battened Mainsail - Challenge 8.3oz High Modulus Dacron, 2 reefs -
$1,459

Comes with leech lines with clam cleats, tell tales, flo-stripes*, and sail
bags. Construction includes triple-stitched seams, large radial corner
reinforcements, with handsewn leather chafe protection.

 

Seems like 8 out of 10 folks have overall positive experience with RT sails.
There are scattered reports of quality issues, but I'm inclined to see that
as a risk of any production sail loft. Have any of you ordered from them
before? What's been your experience? I'm inquiring about adding a cunningham
and seeing what our options are for the slugs. Are there other options you'd
recommend I request? 

 

Before anybody suggests I go to a custom sailmaker to get a super high
quality sail, the price is really what we can afford right now; if we need
to spend more money to get a decent sail then we'll have to wait another
season or two to replace our (very tired) main. Willing to do that if enough
folks wave us off RT, but hoping this could be a great solution for our
casual cruising needs!

 

Andrew

 

*What the heck are Flo-Stripes?

-- 
Andrew Means
S.V. Safari - 1977 C&C 34 MK I

Seattle, WA



-- 
Joel 
301 541 8551

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Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
I purchased a Rolly Tasker 155% genoa a couple of years back, very happy
with the price and the sail.
To another poster's point, I don't have the experience to tell a design
flaw or poor design. All I know is that I can trim the sail very nicely,
that's good enough for me. I think I'de be in the same boat in regards to
what I know about the sail if I spent twice as much. For someone who races
and has more experience maybe there would be design elements that mattered.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Rjcasciato via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Andrew:
>
>
>
> Definitely ask for the Cunningham ring..it should be an easy
> addition
>
>
>
> AS far as the sail slugs goI strongly recommend looking at the Tides
> Marine Strong Trackit is a nylon/Delrin track that slides up inside
> your original sail slot and the slugs are now polished stainless that slide
> very easily up and down….on my 38MKII, with a luff of 45’, I can raise
> the main to within about 6 feet of the masthead before using the winch to
> get it trimmed………
>
>
>
> https://www.tidesmarine.com/sailtrack
>
>
>
> Considering that your crew may be short on numbers and skill, that one
> item made my 38 a simple dream to operate………..even my wife can raise it
> most of the way up herself.
>
>
>
> I did the track install myself in 1998 and it is still intact and working
> great today….
>
>
>
> I’m not sure of the pricing, but since your Rolly Tasker representative is
> in Florida??? So is Tides Marine……….I’m sure they know each other.  The
> sail does have to have the slugs installed when they make it….you could
> do it yourself, but your sailmaker is equipped to do it better..
>
>
>
> My $0.50 worth,
>
>
>
> Best
>
> Ron C
>
>
> --
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel
> Aronson via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, March 25, 2016 9:43 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails
>
>
>
> My 135 came from There. I am very pleased with it and would not hesitate
> to buy from them again. The flow stripes are also known as draft stripes.
> Just colored tape to let you see how much of a belly you having your sail
>
>
>
> Joel
>
> On Friday, March 25, 2016, Andrew Means via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hey all -
>
>
>
> As part of the long list of refinements and upgrades we need to make on
> the Safari, we’re looking at getting a new main sail from Rolly Tasker via
> National Sails in FL. Here’s the details of the quote:
>
>
>
> *C&C 34 *(Does anybody feel like confirming that I’ve got these
> measurements correct?)
>
> I = 44’
>
> J = 14
>
> P = 38.25
>
> E  = 10.92
>
>
>
> *Fully Battened Mainsail - *Challenge 8.3oz High Modulus Dacron, 2 reefs
> - $1,459
>
> Comes with leech lines with clam cleats, tell tales, flo-stripes*, and
> sail bags. Construction includes triple-stitched seams, large radial corner
> reinforcements, with handsewn leather chafe protection.
>
>
>
> Seems like 8 out of 10 folks have overall positive experience with RT
> sails. There are scattered reports of quality issues, but I’m inclined to
> see that as a risk of any production sail loft. Have any of you ordered
> from them before? What’s been your experience? I’m inquiring about adding a
> cunningham and seeing what our options are for the slugs. Are there other
> options you’d recommend I request?
>
>
>
> Before anybody suggests I go to a custom sailmaker to get a super high
> quality sail, the price is really what we can afford right now; if we need
> to spend more money to get a decent sail then we’ll have to wait another
> season or two to replace our (very tired) main. Willing to do that if
> enough folks wave us off RT, but hoping this could be a great solution for
> our casual cruising needs!
>
>
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> *What the heck are Flo-Stripes?
>
> --
> Andrew Means
> S.V. Safari - 1977 C&C 34 MK I
>
> Seattle, WA
>
>
>
> --
> Joel
> 301 541 8551
>
> ___
>
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> like what we do, please help us pay for our costs by donating. All
> Contributions are greatly appreciated!
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Leslie Paal via CnC-List
A friend got RT sail (135) about two years ago.  It is quite OK for cruising, 
BUT he had to replace the dacron sun-cover with Sunbrella and repair some of 
the stitching.  It cost him $800.  The sail spent "all the time" on the furler 
since we get to sail 12 months a year (SoCal).

Leslie.
Phoenix C&C32 1983


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 Subject: Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: "Danny Haughey" 
 Date: Saturday, March 26, 2016, 6:34 AM

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Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List
That's a good point.  Will you be able to sail 12 months a year? 
Our sails spend almost 6 months a year in storage.  I'm sure that proper stored 
sails last longer just due to less exposure.  Improper stored sails will 
probably need replacing sooner than ones that remain on the boat all year. 
While speaking with the designer,  we talked about UV protected threads and 
when is best to use them.


Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: 
Leslie Paal via CnC-List  Date: 3/26/2016  3:41 PM  
(GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Leslie Paal  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails 
A friend got RT sail (135) about two years ago.  It is quite OK for cruising, 
BUT he had to replace the dacron sun-cover with Sunbrella and repair some of 
the stitching.  It cost him $800.  The sail spent "all the time" on the furler 
since we get to sail 12 months a year (SoCal).

Leslie.
Phoenix C&C32 1983


On Sat, 3/26/16, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  wrote:

 Subject: Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: "Danny Haughey" 
 Date: Saturday, March 26, 2016, 6:34 AM

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Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Andrew Means via CnC-List
Our sailing season is just starting, but even in the off season we’ll find days 
to get out and take the boat for a spin. We’ve done a few sails already this 
year. We have new sunbrella sail covers so the main will pretty much always be 
dry and protected from the sun.
 
-- 
Andrew Means
S.V. Safari - 1977 C&C 34 Mk I
Seattle, WA

On March 26, 2016 at 2:06:50 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
(cnc-list@cnc-list.com) wrote:

That's a good point.  Will you be able to sail 12 months a year? 

Our sails spend almost 6 months a year in storage.  I'm sure that proper stored 
sails last longer just due to less exposure.  Improper stored sails will 
probably need replacing sooner than ones that remain on the boat all year. 

While speaking with the designer,  we talked about UV protected threads and 
when is best to use them.



Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
 Original message 
From: Leslie Paal via CnC-List 
Date: 3/26/2016 3:41 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Leslie Paal 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

A friend got RT sail (135) about two years ago.  It is quite OK for cruising, 
BUT he had to replace the dacron sun-cover with Sunbrella and repair some of 
the stitching.  It cost him $800.  The sail spent "all the time" on the furler 
since we get to sail 12 months a year (SoCal).

Leslie.
Phoenix C&C32 1983


On Sat, 3/26/16, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  wrote:

Subject: Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: "Danny Haughey" 
Date: Saturday, March 26, 2016, 6:34 AM

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Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
You get sun in Seattle?   :^)   I’ve been there a fair amount, usually either 
in March/April or August, and I’ve actually seen the sun quite a lot.  All of 
Mount Rainier, too.

I’ve also been in contact with RT sails; they have been really pushing against 
me getting a Dacron sun cover, preferring the Sunbrella instead.  They say 
they’ve had issues with the longevity of the Dacron.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Mar 26, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Andrew Means via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Our sailing season is just starting, but even in the off season we’ll find 
> days to get out and take the boat for a spin. We’ve done a few sails already 
> this year. We have new sunbrella sail covers so the main will pretty much 
> always be dry and protected from the sun.
>  
> -- 
> Andrew Means
> S.V. Safari - 1977 C&C 34 Mk I
> Seattle, WA

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Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
Quantum strongly recommends the Sunbrella sun cover too.

Bob Boyer
(443) 994-1802
S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - hull #230)
Annapolis, MD
(presently in Baltimore)

> On Mar 26, 2016, at 5:42 PM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> You get sun in Seattle?   :^)   I’ve been there a fair amount, usually either 
> in March/April or August, and I’ve actually seen the sun quite a lot.  All of 
> Mount Rainier, too.
> 
> I’ve also been in contact with RT sails; they have been really pushing 
> against me getting a Dacron sun cover, preferring the Sunbrella instead.  
> They say they’ve had issues with the longevity of the Dacron.
> 
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Andrew Means via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Our sailing season is just starting, but even in the off season we’ll find 
>> days to get out and take the boat for a spin. We’ve done a few sails already 
>> this year. We have new sunbrella sail covers so the main will pretty much 
>> always be dry and protected from the sun.
>>  
>> -- 
>> Andrew Means
>> S.V. Safari - 1977 C&C 34 Mk I
>> Seattle, WA
> 
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Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
Quantum provides TEFLON coated sail slides--they are really slick and no need 
for a Tides sail slide system!

Bob

Bob Boyer
(443) 994-1802
S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - hull #230)
Annapolis, MD
(presently in Baltimore)

> On Mar 26, 2016, at 10:45 AM, Rjcasciato via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Andrew:
>  
> Definitely ask for the Cunningham ring..it should be an easy addition
>  
> AS far as the sail slugs goI strongly recommend looking at the Tides 
> Marine Strong Trackit is a nylon/Delrin track that slides up inside your 
> original sail slot and the slugs are now polished stainless that slide very 
> easily up and down….on my 38MKII, with a luff of 45’, I can raise the 
> main to within about 6 feet of the masthead before using the winch to get it 
> trimmed………
>  
> https://www.tidesmarine.com/sailtrack   
>  
> Considering that your crew may be short on numbers and skill, that one item 
> made my 38 a simple dream to operate………..even my wife can raise it most of 
> the way up herself.
>  
> I did the track install myself in 1998 and it is still intact and working 
> great today….
>  
> I’m not sure of the pricing, but since your Rolly Tasker representative is in 
> Florida??? So is Tides Marine……….I’m sure they know each other.  The sail 
> does have to have the slugs installed when they make it….you could do it 
> yourself, but your sailmaker is equipped to do it better..
>  
> My $0.50 worth,
>  
> Best
> Ron C
>  
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
> Aronson via CnC-List
> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 9:43 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Joel Aronson
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Rolly Tasker Sails
>  
> My 135 came from There. I am very pleased with it and would not hesitate to 
> buy from them again. The flow stripes are also known as draft stripes.  Just 
> colored tape to let you see how much of a belly you having your sail
>  
> Joel 
> 
> On Friday, March 25, 2016, Andrew Means via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> Hey all - 
>  
> As part of the long list of refinements and upgrades we need to make on the 
> Safari, we’re looking at getting a new main sail from Rolly Tasker via 
> National Sails in FL. Here’s the details of the quote:
>  
> C&C 34 (Does anybody feel like confirming that I’ve got these measurements 
> correct?)
> I = 44’
> J = 14
> P = 38.25
> E  = 10.92
>  
> Fully Battened Mainsail - Challenge 8.3oz High Modulus Dacron, 2 reefs - 
> $1,459
> Comes with leech lines with clam cleats, tell tales, flo-stripes*, and sail 
> bags. Construction includes triple-stitched seams, large radial corner 
> reinforcements, with handsewn leather chafe protection.
>  
> Seems like 8 out of 10 folks have overall positive experience with RT sails. 
> There are scattered reports of quality issues, but I’m inclined to see that 
> as a risk of any production sail loft. Have any of you ordered from them 
> before? What’s been your experience? I’m inquiring about adding a cunningham 
> and seeing what our options are for the slugs. Are there other options you’d 
> recommend I request? 
>  
> Before anybody suggests I go to a custom sailmaker to get a super high 
> quality sail, the price is really what we can afford right now; if we need to 
> spend more money to get a decent sail then we’ll have to wait another season 
> or two to replace our (very tired) main. Willing to do that if enough folks 
> wave us off RT, but hoping this could be a great solution for our casual 
> cruising needs!
>  
> Andrew
>  
> *What the heck are Flo-Stripes?
> -- 
> Andrew Means
> S.V. Safari - 1977 C&C 34 MK I
> Seattle, WA
> 
> 
> -- 
> Joel 
> 301 541 8551
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Stus-List Sun protection for headsails.

2016-03-26 Thread Charles Nelson via CnC-List
An alternative to adding various sun covers on roller furled sails is to use a 
sleeve from ATN or a local canvas shop. This one cover will provide protection 
for ANY furled headsail so you need only add it once for the the boat. Probably 
costs more initially than a sewn on cover but it protects ALL your headsails.

Hoist over the furled sail with a spinnaker halyard, zipping the cover closed 
as it rises up the sail. When fully hoisted, tighten the external control lines 
(a pair producing a 'diagonal' pattern like a Chinese finger toy) and tie off. 
To reduce windage and possible noise to your dock mates, wrap another halyard 
spirally around it and tie it off.

I have used one for many years while club racing. If I was more of a cruiser, I 
might go for a sewn on solution for my most used sail.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36XL/kcb

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Re: Stus-List Frolic II 36' cb will be for sale soon

2016-03-26 Thread Rick Bushie via CnC-List
The offer to swap boats a coupla years ago still stands.  Anchovy for Frolic.

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Re: Stus-List now cored hulls

2016-03-26 Thread Brent Driedger via CnC-List
Not directly C&C but prior to my 27-5 I owned a Kirby designed DS-22. The 
transom was cored, rotted and during the replacement process I determined the 
reason to be from stainless screws which had gone through the aluminum cap rail 
down through the core. After 25 or so years the seal had failed on the screws 
and allowed water to run down and get trapped in the core. Next came carpenter 
ants!  I replaced the core from the inside with marine plywood and learned a 
lot about boat construction and fibreglass repair. 
This same boat had some vertical gelcoat cracks at the stress points of the 
hull near the bulkhead. If this had been a cored hull I wonder if those cracks 
would have gone deep enough to cause wet core. 

Brent Driedger
27-5
Lake Winnipeg. 

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> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:53 PM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I know someone that had to do some core repairs on a C&C 40. The boat had sat 
> on the hard for years with water in the bilge and the freeze-thaw cycles had 
> cracked the hull from the inside.
> 
> He said it wasn’t a lot of money, just a lot of PITA work under the boat 
> grinding and laminating. Now if you had to pay someone by the hour……OUCH!
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Stus-List RT Sails

2016-03-26 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List
> You might want to call Island Planet out of Florida.  He seems like a good 
> guy I believe he worked at one of the bigger lofts.  The sails are made in 
> Asia but he gets good reviews.  Some say his sails come from the same loft as 
> some of the "big names" he has "Challenge Cloth" as some of his options.

Anyway, that might be a good middle ground.. Perhaps a little more expensive 
than RT Doyle and Schurr are pretty reasonable too. 

My 2 cents 

Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"


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