Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
Steve

The ST60 instruments are very reliable.  At  that price you should stop 
thinking and start spending.  You will not regret it

IMO the ST60 series is more robust and superior to the newer i50/i60 (which we 
have)

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

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veinot via CnC-List
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Cc: dwight veinot
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

Steve
I have had the st 60 pack on Alianna for 7 or 8 years now and I really like it, 
big numbers easy to read and no big issues with any component yet.  that is a 
very good price

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi, anyone ever buy anything from sale-tools.com?
http://www.sale-tools.com/categories/Marine-Electronics/Fishfinders%7B47%7DChartplotters/

Their prices on marine electronics are unbelievable (literally). Seems fishy 
but I figured it's worth asking. Some of their stuff is older so it makes sense 
that it would be cheap (ST60 three pack for ~700 etc).

Thoughts?

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Midland


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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
Sorry – just re-read this.  Thought the prices were from Defender.

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

Steve

The ST60 instruments are very reliable.  At  that price you should stop 
thinking and start spending.  You will not regret it

IMO the ST60 series is more robust and superior to the newer i50/i60 (which we 
have)

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

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Cc: dwight veinot
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

Steve
I have had the st 60 pack on Alianna for 7 or 8 years now and I really like it, 
big numbers easy to read and no big issues with any component yet.  that is a 
very good price

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi, anyone ever buy anything from sale-tools.com?
http://www.sale-tools.com/categories/Marine-Electronics/Fishfinders%7B47%7DChartplotters/

Their prices on marine electronics are unbelievable (literally). Seems fishy 
but I figured it's worth asking. Some of their stuff is older so it makes sense 
that it would be cheap (ST60 three pack for ~700 etc).

Thoughts?

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Midland


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Re: Stus-List ridiculous water leak

2015-10-19 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
The drain hose on mine was too long, which is why it took me so long to
find the leak.

Some days you can't win.

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> Tis the season...i just replaced my leaking pressure relief valve too!!
> (and the element and anode!).
>
> I also noticed that the valve didn't have a drain hose on it, so it was
> dripping around the base of the tankand that provides the explanation
> for the shock that I received when I changed out the heating element a few
> weeks ago.
>
> The tank didn't work when I bought the boat and I finally got around to
> dealing with it this year.
>
>
> Mike
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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
I'm actually considering this:
http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html

My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the product.

Cheers,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto/Midland


On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Sorry – just re-read this.  Thought the prices were from Defender.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt,
> Mike via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 9:56 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> The ST60 instruments are very reliable.  At  that price you should stop
> thinking and start spending.  You will not regret it
>
>
>
> IMO the ST60 series is more robust and superior to the newer i50/i60
> (which we have)
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *dwight veinot via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:59 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* dwight veinot
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> I have had the st 60 pack on Alianna for 7 or 8 years now and I really
> like it, big numbers easy to read and no big issues with any component
> yet.  that is a very good price
>
>
> Dwight Veinot
>
> C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
>
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
> d.ve...@bellaliant.net
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, anyone ever buy anything from sale-tools.com?
>
>
> http://www.sale-tools.com/categories/Marine-Electronics/Fishfinders%7B47%7DChartplotters/
>
>
>
> Their prices on marine electronics are unbelievable (literally). Seems
> fishy but I figured it's worth asking. Some of their stuff is older so it
> makes sense that it would be cheap (ST60 three pack for ~700 etc).
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C&C 32
>
> Midland
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Tim Goodyear via CnC-List 
Wow - that is a great price.  I have Raymarine speed / depth on my new boat
(no wind instrument at all), a Garmin plotter and Furuno radar.  It would
be worth replacing the speed / depth to get a modern package that
integrates natively with the plotter at that price.  Please let me know
what you find about the vendor.

Thanks,

Tim
Mojito
C&C 35-3
Branford, CT

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I'm actually considering this:
>
> http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html
>
> My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the product.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto/Midland
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry – just re-read this.  Thought the prices were from Defender.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt,
>> Mike via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 9:56 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> The ST60 instruments are very reliable.  At  that price you should stop
>> thinking and start spending.  You will not regret it
>>
>>
>>
>> IMO the ST60 series is more robust and superior to the newer i50/i60
>> (which we have)
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Persistence
>>
>> Halifax
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
>> ] *On Behalf Of *dwight veinot via
>> CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:59 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* dwight veinot
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> I have had the st 60 pack on Alianna for 7 or 8 years now and I really
>> like it, big numbers easy to read and no big issues with any component
>> yet.  that is a very good price
>>
>>
>> Dwight Veinot
>>
>> C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
>>
>> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>>
>> d.ve...@bellaliant.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, anyone ever buy anything from sale-tools.com?
>>
>>
>> http://www.sale-tools.com/categories/Marine-Electronics/Fishfinders%7B47%7DChartplotters/
>>
>>
>>
>> Their prices on marine electronics are unbelievable (literally). Seems
>> fishy but I figured it's worth asking. Some of their stuff is older so it
>> makes sense that it would be cheap (ST60 three pack for ~700 etc).
>>
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> Suhana, C&C 32
>>
>> Midland
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Paul Fountain via CnC-List 
Steve,

Check out their address:

Jl. Asia No.35
North Sumatera
Medan
20111

And google them – lots of reports of scams & fraud …….

Paul Fountain
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan 
Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Stevan Plavsa 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

I'm actually considering this:
http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html

My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the product.

Cheers,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto/Midland


On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Sorry – just re-read this.  Thought the prices were from Defender.

From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike

Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

Steve

The ST60 instruments are very reliable.  At  that price you should stop 
thinking and start spending.  You will not regret it

IMO the ST60 series is more robust and superior to the newer i50/i60 (which we 
have)

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight 
veinot via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dwight veinot
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

Steve
I have had the st 60 pack on Alianna for 7 or 8 years now and I really like it, 
big numbers easy to read and no big issues with any component yet.  that is a 
very good price

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi, anyone ever buy anything from sale-tools.com?
http://www.sale-tools.com/categories/Marine-Electronics/Fishfinders%7B47%7DChartplotters/

Their prices on marine electronics are unbelievable (literally). Seems fishy 
but I figured it's worth asking. Some of their stuff is older so it makes sense 
that it would be cheap (ST60 three pack for ~700 etc).

Thoughts?

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Midland


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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
Their prices are well below what some of that gear sells for USED!


From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
Fountain via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:07 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Paul Fountain
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

Steve,

Check out their address:

Jl. Asia No.35
North Sumatera
Medan
20111

And google them – lots of reports of scams & fraud …….

Paul Fountain
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Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Stevan Plavsa mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

I'm actually considering this:
http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html

My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the product.

Cheers,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto/Midland


On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Sorry – just re-read this.  Thought the prices were from Defender.

From: CnC-List 
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On 
Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike

Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

Steve

The ST60 instruments are very reliable.  At  that price you should stop 
thinking and start spending.  You will not regret it

IMO the ST60 series is more robust and superior to the newer i50/i60 (which we 
have)

Mike
Persistence
Halifax

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight 
veinot via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dwight veinot
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

Steve
I have had the st 60 pack on Alianna for 7 or 8 years now and I really like it, 
big numbers easy to read and no big issues with any component yet.  that is a 
very good price

Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net


On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Hi, anyone ever buy anything from sale-tools.com?
http://www.sale-tools.com/categories/Marine-Electronics/Fishfinders%7B47%7DChartplotters/

Their prices on marine electronics are unbelievable (literally). Seems fishy 
but I figured it's worth asking. Some of their stuff is older so it makes sense 
that it would be cheap (ST60 three pack for ~700 etc).

Thoughts?

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Midland


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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
If it seems too good to be true...

http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/sale-tools.com

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow - that is a great price.  I have Raymarine speed / depth on my new boat 
> (no wind instrument at all), a Garmin plotter and Furuno radar.  It would be 
> worth replacing the speed / depth to get a modern package that integrates 
> natively with the plotter at that price.  Please let me know what you find 
> about the vendor.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tim
> Mojito
> C&C 35-3
> Branford, CT
> 
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> I'm actually considering this:
> http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html
>  
> 
> 
> My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the product.
> 
> Cheers,
> Steve
> Suhana, C&C 32
> Toronto/Midland

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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
http://alibabascam.com/question.php?id=1747



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G 
Street via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:36 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

If it seems too good to be true...

http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/sale-tools.com

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Wow - that is a great price.  I have Raymarine speed / depth on my new boat (no 
wind instrument at all), a Garmin plotter and Furuno radar.  It would be worth 
replacing the speed / depth to get a modern package that integrates natively 
with the plotter at that price.  Please let me know what you find about the 
vendor.

Thanks,

Tim
Mojito
C&C 35-3
Branford, CT

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I'm actually considering this:
http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html

My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the product.

Cheers,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto/Midland

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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
I'm a little embarrassed for not doing my own homework! I know how to
google dammit...

I regret not taking advantage of the B&G stuff from spring 2014 when they
were offering a free display with their speed/depth/wind. I'm rockin the
ST40 speed and depth and they are ok but i want WIND!

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto/Midland


On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> http://alibabascam.com/question.php?id=1747
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
> *Frederick
> G Street via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 10:36 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Frederick G Street
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>
>
>
> If it seems too good to be true...
>
>
>
> http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/sale-tools.com
>
>
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V *Oceanis* (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Wow - that is a great price.  I have Raymarine speed / depth on my new
> boat (no wind instrument at all), a Garmin plotter and Furuno radar.  It
> would be worth replacing the speed / depth to get a modern package that
> integrates natively with the plotter at that price.  Please let me know
> what you find about the vendor.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Tim
>
> Mojito
>
> C&C 35-3
>
> Branford, CT
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I'm actually considering this:
>
>
> http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html
>
>
>
> My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the product.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C&C 32
>
> Toronto/Midland
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
If is sounds too good to be true, it usually is!

 

Bill Coleman

C&C 39 Erie, PAanimated_favicon1

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
Fountain via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:07 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Paul Fountain
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

 

Steve,

 

Check out their address: 

 

Jl. Asia No.35 
North Sumatera
Medan
20111

 

And google them – lots of reports of scams & fraud …….

 

Paul Fountain

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan 
Plavsa via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Stevan Plavsa 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

 

I'm actually considering this:

http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html

 

My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the product.

 

Cheers,

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto/Midland

 

 

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Sorry – just re-read this.  Thought the prices were from Defender.  

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike 
via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike


Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

 

Steve

 

The ST60 instruments are very reliable.  At  that price you should stop 
thinking and start spending.  You will not regret it

 

IMO the ST60 series is more robust and superior to the newer i50/i60 (which we 
have)

 

Mike

Persistence

Halifax

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight 
veinot via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dwight veinot
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

 

Steve

I have had the st 60 pack on Alianna for 7 or 8 years now and I really like it, 
big numbers easy to read and no big issues with any component yet.  that is a 
very good price




Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

d.ve...@bellaliant.net

 

 

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi, anyone ever buy anything from sale-tools.com?

http://www.sale-tools.com/categories/Marine-Electronics/Fishfinders%7B47%7DChartplotters/

 

Their prices on marine electronics are unbelievable (literally). Seems fishy 
but I figured it's worth asking. Some of their stuff is older so it makes sense 
that it would be cheap (ST60 three pack for ~700 etc).

 

Thoughts?

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Midland

 


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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
Steve,

To me wind is the least important of the 3.

Joel

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> If is sounds too good to be true, it usually is!
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 Erie, PA[image: animated_favicon1]
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Fountain via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 10:07 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Paul Fountain
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
>
>
> Check out their address:
>
>
>
> *Jl. Asia No.35 *
> *North Sumatera*
> *Medan*
> *20111*
>
>
>
> *And google them – lots of reports of scams & fraud …….*
>
>
>
> *Paul Fountain*
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan
> Plavsa via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 9:19 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Stevan Plavsa 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>
>
>
> I'm actually considering this:
>
>
> http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html
>
>
>
> My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the product.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C&C 32
>
> Toronto/Midland
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry – just re-read this.  Thought the prices were from Defender.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt,
> Mike via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 9:56 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> The ST60 instruments are very reliable.  At  that price you should stop
> thinking and start spending.  You will not regret it
>
>
>
> IMO the ST60 series is more robust and superior to the newer i50/i60
> (which we have)
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *dwight veinot via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:59 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* dwight veinot
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> I have had the st 60 pack on Alianna for 7 or 8 years now and I really
> like it, big numbers easy to read and no big issues with any component
> yet.  that is a very good price
>
>
> Dwight Veinot
>
> C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
>
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
> d.ve...@bellaliant.net
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, anyone ever buy anything from sale-tools.com?
>
>
> http://www.sale-tools.com/categories/Marine-Electronics/Fishfinders%7B47%7DChartplotters/
>
>
>
> Their prices on marine electronics are unbelievable (literally). Seems
> fishy but I figured it's worth asking. Some of their stuff is older so it
> makes sense that it would be cheap (ST60 three pack for ~700 etc).
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C&C 32
>
> Midland
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
Yeah, I'm familiar with that old saying .. and not contesting it! The
reason I asked on this list is because everything listed is discontinued
stuff. I figured that would explain the lower prices.

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> If is sounds too good to be true, it usually is!
>
>
>
> Bill Coleman
>
> C&C 39 Erie, PA[image: animated_favicon1]
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Fountain via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 10:07 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Paul Fountain
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>
>
>
> Steve,
>
>
>
> Check out their address:
>
>
>
> *Jl. Asia No.35 *
> *North Sumatera*
> *Medan*
> *20111*
>
>
>
> *And google them – lots of reports of scams & fraud …….*
>
>
>
> *Paul Fountain*
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan
> Plavsa via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 9:19 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Stevan Plavsa 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>
>
>
> I'm actually considering this:
>
>
> http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html
>
>
>
> My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the product.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C&C 32
>
> Toronto/Midland
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry – just re-read this.  Thought the prices were from Defender.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt,
> Mike via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 9:56 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Hoyt, Mike
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> The ST60 instruments are very reliable.  At  that price you should stop
> thinking and start spending.  You will not regret it
>
>
>
> IMO the ST60 series is more robust and superior to the newer i50/i60
> (which we have)
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> Halifax
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
> ] *On Behalf Of *dwight veinot via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:59 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* dwight veinot
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> I have had the st 60 pack on Alianna for 7 or 8 years now and I really
> like it, big numbers easy to read and no big issues with any component
> yet.  that is a very good price
>
>
> Dwight Veinot
>
> C&C 35 MKII, *Alianna*
>
> Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
>
> d.ve...@bellaliant.net
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, anyone ever buy anything from sale-tools.com?
>
>
> http://www.sale-tools.com/categories/Marine-Electronics/Fishfinders%7B47%7DChartplotters/
>
>
>
> Their prices on marine electronics are unbelievable (literally). Seems
> fishy but I figured it's worth asking. Some of their stuff is older so it
> makes sense that it would be cheap (ST60 three pack for ~700 etc).
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> Steve
>
> Suhana, C&C 32
>
> Midland
>
>
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
Lots of scam complaints on sale-tools.com.  Bad reviews on several sites.

Dennis C.
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Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+

2015-10-19 Thread svpegasus38 






Jim, email me off list and I will send pictures. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.




-- Original message--From: jim schwartz via CnC-List Date: Wed, Oct 14, 
2015 19:37To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: detroit...@aol.com;Subject:Re: 
Stus-List Dodger for 34+
any pictures?jimsea ya!lf38


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From: svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List >
To: cnc-list >
Cc: svpegasus38 >
Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2015 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+

I just got a new dodger, the front window zips out or swings up and hangs 
from snaps on the bottom side of the dodger top. Thinking of doing the same to 
the transition panel between dodger and bimini. 
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.

-- Original message--From: Robert Boyer via CnC-ListDate: Wed, Oct 14, 
2015 14:02To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Robert Boyer;Subject:Re: Stus-List 
Dodger for 34+
My latest revision to my dodger was to make the front window zip out & able to 
be completely removed--this eliminates the  hassle of rolling it up.
Bob

Bob BoyerS/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230email: 
dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
"There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply 
messing about in boats."  --Kenneth Grahame
On Oct 14, 2015, at 4:55 PM, Syerdave--- via CnC-List  
wrote:

https://picasaweb.google.com/113820107769936378062/Windstar2#6021225444699983090

Am fairly happy with this dodger profile on my 33ii.   Make sure you set the 
height so that any helmsmen can see over or under the frame.  The Handrails on 
the side are very useful.  The bimini design is good, with the exception that 
you cannot see the masthead from the helm.  It keeps the rain and sun off.   
Strangely, the PO had put a window in the connector piece, between the dodger 
and bimini, which cannot be used under sail due to the cockpit traveller.  
Also, when the traveller is off to one side, and the sheets are eased, they 
foul the side of the dodger.   I have "running dodger stays" where I slack the 
one side when the situation occurs.

We like to sail with the dodger window open - better to see.  Make sure you 
canvas maker facilitates being able to fast en the window to the top of the 
dodger, rather than loosely rolled up in the opening,  blocking view.  I have a 
short winch handle that allows me to use the cabin top winches.

Dave







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Re: Stus-List Engine Overheat Question

2015-10-19 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List 
Al,

This sounds like a similar problem I experienced with my old C&C 29 which had a 
raw water cooled 2QM15.The alarm only came on only after the engine was 
shutdown for a short period of time and then restarted.   I would even let the 
engine cool at idle speed for a good few minutes before shutting down.  I tried 
many things, and listened to may good suggestions (air lock, pump wear, …), but 
in the end the problem turned out to be a bad thermostat sender.

Maybe that’s your issue too.  Do you have a separate sender for the alarm and 
for the gauge? If so, then it is unlikely that both would be bad.  But if not, 
I would start there.

Paul


-
Paul E.
1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
S/V Johanna Rose
Carrabelle, FL

http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/

> On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:03 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:08:19 -0700
> From: Al Serrato mailto:aserrat...@yahoo.com>>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com " 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
> Subject: Stus-List Engine Overheat Question
> Message-ID: <411a5ff3-f777-4f52-9bf4-0d90cac65...@yahoo.com 
> >
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> I'm looking for advice on a situation that arose yesterday. I have a 34 with 
> a 3GMD diesel with raw water cooling. I motored for about 45 minutes at 2000 
> rpm and then shut the engine down. Everything was running smoothly. The temp 
> gauge showed the normal 100 degrees and I could hear water from the exhaust. 
> I sailed for about half hour but then lost the wind and turned the motor on. 
> The high temp alarm stayed on and the gauge showed 140 degrees.  I shut it 
> down and checked the water filter, which looked fine. I tried starting it a 
> couple more times with the same result, so I sailed back to my harbor. When I 
> went to start it, everything worked fine again, and I ran the motor for a 
> good 30 minutes with no issues. The gauge stayed at 100 the whole time and no 
> alarm.
> 
> I initially thought it might have been the impeller (which is about 1.5 years 
> old right now), but when the problem arose I didn't check for the sound of 
> exhaust water. Since it was working back at the harbor, I don't think the 
> impeller was bad. I'm starting to think that the sending unit malfunctioned 
> and then reset itself somehow but that's never happened before. 
> 
> I'm not sure what temp triggers the high temp alarm and whether the same 
> sending unit goes to both the alarm and the gauge.
> 
> Am I missing something obvious? 
> Were there other steps I should have taken to diagnose it? I was of course 
> concerned to run the engine for long if it was overheating.
> What next steps should I take, since everything seems fine right now.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Al Serrato
> C & C 34
> Fidelity
> San Francisco Bay

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Re: Stus-List Engine Overheat Question

2015-10-19 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
I had the exact same symptoms on my 2QM15 for many years. I tried everything I 
could think of. Finally, when it got worse, I followed the water from outside 
the hull through all of the parts of the engine. At long last, I found a small 
bit of an impeller in the hose leading to the area where the zinc is located on 
the front of the engine (after replacing zincs, and nearly everything else). It 
was rusty and crusty and must have been there, bouncing around, for years. I 
know it must have been there before I bought the boat 20+ years ago, because 
every time I replaced the impeller, it was intact. And, even when it was 
wailing at me, it had some water coming out of the exhaust, just not as much as 
it has now.

So, start at the water inlet and look at everything, one careful step at a 
time. Check the hoses, sometimes they look good on the outside but collapse on 
the inside, thus blocking water when it is warmed up.

Good luck.

Gary Nylander
30-1 #593


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dreuge via CnC-List 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Cc: Dreuge 
  Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 12:56 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Overheat Question


  Al,


  This sounds like a similar problem I experienced with my old C&C 29 which had 
a raw water cooled 2QM15.The alarm only came on only after the engine was 
shutdown for a short period of time and then restarted.   I would even let the 
engine cool at idle speed for a good few minutes before shutting down.  I tried 
many things, and listened to may good suggestions (air lock, pump wear, …), but 
in the end the problem turned out to be a bad thermostat sender.


  Maybe that’s your issue too.  Do you have a separate sender for the alarm and 
for the gauge? If so, then it is unlikely that both would be bad.  But if not, 
I would start there.


  Paul




  -
  Paul E.
  1981 C&C 38 Landfall 
  S/V Johanna Rose
  Carrabelle, FL


  http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/


On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:03 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:


Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:08:19 -0700
From: Al Serrato 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Stus-List Engine Overheat Question
Message-ID: <411a5ff3-f777-4f52-9bf4-0d90cac65...@yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I'm looking for advice on a situation that arose yesterday. I have a 34 
with a 3GMD diesel with raw water cooling. I motored for about 45 minutes at 
2000 rpm and then shut the engine down. Everything was running smoothly. The 
temp gauge showed the normal 100 degrees and I could hear water from the 
exhaust. I sailed for about half hour but then lost the wind and turned the 
motor on. The high temp alarm stayed on and the gauge showed 140 degrees.  I 
shut it down and checked the water filter, which looked fine. I tried starting 
it a couple more times with the same result, so I sailed back to my harbor. 
When I went to start it, everything worked fine again, and I ran the motor for 
a good 30 minutes with no issues. The gauge stayed at 100 the whole time and no 
alarm.

I initially thought it might have been the impeller (which is about 1.5 
years old right now), but when the problem arose I didn't check for the sound 
of exhaust water. Since it was working back at the harbor, I don't think the 
impeller was bad. I'm starting to think that the sending unit malfunctioned and 
then reset itself somehow but that's never happened before. 

I'm not sure what temp triggers the high temp alarm and whether the same 
sending unit goes to both the alarm and the gauge.

Am I missing something obvious? 
Were there other steps I should have taken to diagnose it? I was of course 
concerned to run the engine for long if it was overheating.
What next steps should I take, since everything seems fine right now.

Thanks in advance for any help.

Al Serrato
C & C 34
Fidelity
San Francisco Bay





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Re: Stus-List Engine Overheat Question

2015-10-19 Thread Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
On my 3GM I had an overheating problem and ended up discovering that the
pulley for the water pump was spinning on the shaft as the set screw had
come loose.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Gary Nylander via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I had the exact same symptoms on my 2QM15 for many years. I tried
> everything I could think of. Finally, when it got worse, I followed the
> water from outside the hull through all of the parts of the engine. At long
> last, I found a small bit of an impeller in the hose leading to the area
> where the zinc is located on the front of the engine (after replacing
> zincs, and nearly everything else). It was rusty and crusty and must have
> been there, bouncing around, for years. I know it must have been there
> before I bought the boat 20+ years ago, because every time I replaced the
> impeller, it was intact. And, even when it was wailing at me, it had some
> water coming out of the exhaust, just not as much as it has now.
>
> So, start at the water inlet and look at everything, one careful step at a
> time. Check the hoses, sometimes they look good on the outside but collapse
> on the inside, thus blocking water when it is warmed up.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Gary Nylander
> 30-1 #593
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Dreuge via CnC-List 
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Dreuge 
> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 12:56 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Engine Overheat Question
>
> Al,
>
> This sounds like a similar problem I experienced with my old C&C 29 which
> had a raw water cooled 2QM15.The alarm only came on only after the
> engine was shutdown for a short period of time and then restarted.   I
> would even let the engine cool at idle speed for a good few minutes before
> shutting down.  I tried many things, and listened to may good suggestions
> (air lock, pump wear, …), but in the end the problem turned out to be a bad
> thermostat sender.
>
> Maybe that’s your issue too.  Do you have a separate sender for the alarm
> and for the gauge? If so, then it is unlikely that both would be bad.  But
> if not, I would start there.
>
> Paul
>
>
> -
> Paul E.
> 1981 C&C 38 Landfall
> S/V Johanna Rose
> Carrabelle, FL
>
> http://svjohannarose.blogspot.com/
>
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:03 AM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
>
> Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 16:08:19 -0700
> From: Al Serrato 
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
> Subject: Stus-List Engine Overheat Question
> Message-ID: <411a5ff3-f777-4f52-9bf4-0d90cac65...@yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I'm looking for advice on a situation that arose yesterday. I have a 34
> with a 3GMD diesel with raw water cooling. I motored for about 45 minutes
> at 2000 rpm and then shut the engine down. Everything was running smoothly.
> The temp gauge showed the normal 100 degrees and I could hear water from
> the exhaust. I sailed for about half hour but then lost the wind and turned
> the motor on. The high temp alarm stayed on and the gauge showed 140
> degrees.  I shut it down and checked the water filter, which looked fine. I
> tried starting it a couple more times with the same result, so I sailed
> back to my harbor. When I went to start it, everything worked fine again,
> and I ran the motor for a good 30 minutes with no issues. The gauge stayed
> at 100 the whole time and no alarm.
>
> I initially thought it might have been the impeller (which is about 1.5
> years old right now), but when the problem arose I didn't check for the
> sound of exhaust water. Since it was working back at the harbor, I don't
> think the impeller was bad. I'm starting to think that the sending unit
> malfunctioned and then reset itself somehow but that's never happened
> before.
>
> I'm not sure what temp triggers the high temp alarm and whether the same
> sending unit goes to both the alarm and the gauge.
>
> Am I missing something obvious?
> Were there other steps I should have taken to diagnose it? I was of course
> concerned to run the engine for long if it was overheating.
> What next steps should I take, since everything seems fine right now.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Al Serrato
> C & C 34
> Fidelity
> San Francisco Bay
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List 

  
  

Steve,
I'm interested to know how it works out.
I could use new instruments (mine are just original depth and speed
from 1986) - plus I've been hankering for a autopilot.
That site is selling a Raymarine SPX-5 Wheelpilot for $675 (vs $1900
for a EV-100 kit from Binnacle). 
http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Raymarine-SPX%252d5-Wheelpilot-Pack-with-p70.html

From what I can find the SPX-5 is ~7yrs old.  Any thoughts from the
group on the value of newer technology? I could add the ST60 pack
for $659 (rather than $1800 for a current set). and still spend less
than I was thinking for just an autopilot. -- I'm guessing it's
smarter to match the Raymarine autopilot with the Raymarine
instruments rather than the Garmin.

Both use the NMEA2000 and SeaTalk - so they should work together and
with other gear.

Any thoughts?  If it's just older gear at a good price then might be
a good deal.. Ok  - A little searching for reviews looks like
the site is bogus.  
Just for interest I tried entering an order using fake address etc -
they want a bank transfer sent - do not accept credit cards or even
PayPal!

Shoot.  Enough to get my hopes up.

Mark


There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George Santayana
On 2015-10-19 10:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa
  via CnC-List wrote:


  I'm actually considering this:
http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html



My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so
  much the product.


Cheers,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto/Midland


  
  
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Hoyt,
  Mike via CnC-List 
  wrote:
  

  
Sorry
– just re-read this.  Thought the prices were from
Defender. 
  
 

  
From:
CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike

  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

  


  
 
Steve
 
The
ST60 instruments are very reliable.  At  that
price you should stop thinking and start
spending.  You will not regret it
 
IMO
the ST60 series is more robust and superior to
the newer i50/i60 (which we have)
 
Mike
Persistence
Halifax
 
From:
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On Behalf Of dwight veinot via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dwight veinot
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
 

  
Steve
  
  I have had the st 60 pack on
Alianna for 7 or 8 years now and I really like
it, big numbers easy to read and no big issues
with any component yet.  that is a very good
price


  
  
  

  

  
Dwight Veinot
  
  C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's
  Bay, NS

  d.ve...@bellaliant.net


   

  

  
   
  
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at
  2:47 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List

Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
Mark,

if you find an autopilot for under $1000, let me know. Defender had (still 
has?) a boat show special, but even with their discounts, when you add the 
conversion to CAD, it is a lot of money. Not to mention that if you buy at 
Binnacle you have someone local to yell at, if anything goes wrong.

I don’t think Garmin has a wheel option; they are all (?) suing a linear drive 
(I think).

Marek

From: Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 3:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools


Steve,
I'm interested to know how it works out.
I could use new instruments (mine are just original depth and speed from 1986) 
- plus I've been hankering for a autopilot.
That site is selling a Raymarine SPX-5 Wheelpilot for $675 (vs $1900 for a 
EV-100 kit from Binnacle).  
http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Raymarine-SPX%252d5-Wheelpilot-Pack-with-p70.html

>From what I can find the SPX-5 is ~7yrs old.  Any thoughts from the group on 
>the value of newer technology? I could add the ST60 pack for $659 (rather than 
>$1800 for a current set). and still spend less than I was thinking for just an 
>autopilot. -- I'm guessing it's smarter to match the Raymarine autopilot with 
>the Raymarine instruments rather than the Garmin.

Both use the NMEA2000 and SeaTalk - so they should work together and with other 
gear.

Any thoughts?  If it's just older gear at a good price then might be a good 
deal.. Ok  - A little searching for reviews looks like the site is bogus.  
Just for interest I tried entering an order using fake address etc - they want 
a bank transfer sent - do not accept credit cards or even PayPal!

Shoot.  Enough to get my hopes up.

Mark

There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George SantayanaOn 2015-10-19 10:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:

  I'm actually considering this: 
  
http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html


  My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the product.

  Cheers,
  Steve
  Suhana, C&C 32
  Toronto/Midland


  On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Sorry – just re-read this.  Thought the prices were from Defender.  



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, 
Mike via CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 9:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike


Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools


Steve



The ST60 instruments are very reliable.  At  that price you should stop 
thinking and start spending.  You will not regret it



IMO the ST60 series is more robust and superior to the newer i50/i60 (which 
we have)



Mike

Persistence

Halifax



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight 
veinot via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:59 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: dwight veinot
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools



Steve

I have had the st 60 pack on Alianna for 7 or 8 years now and I really like 
it, big numbers easy to read and no big issues with any component yet.  that is 
a very good price



Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

d.ve...@bellaliant.net





On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Hi, anyone ever buy anything from sale-tools.com?


http://www.sale-tools.com/categories/Marine-Electronics/Fishfinders%7B47%7DChartplotters/



Their prices on marine electronics are unbelievable (literally). Seems 
fishy but I figured it's worth asking. Some of their stuff is older so it makes 
sense that it would be cheap (ST60 three pack for ~700 etc).



Thoughts?



Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Midland




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Stus-List Dodger for 34+

2015-10-19 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List 
This winter I am thinking about having my canvas guy add zippers to remove 
all 3 front windows.. That would make things easier when racing. Currently 
we rollup the middle on and use making tape to keep the to others folded 
on the sides to stay out out of the traveler / winch handles.. 

If you're into racing it might be something to consider. 

-Francois Rivard
1990 34+ "Take Five"
lake Lanier, Ga.




From: svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List >
To: cnc-list >
Cc: svpegasus38 >
Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2015 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+

I just got a new dodger, the front window zips out or swings up and 
hangs from snaps on the bottom side of the dodger top. Thinking of doing 
the same to the transition panel between dodger and bimini.?
Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA. 

-- Original message--From: Robert Boyer via CnC-ListDate: Wed, Oct 
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Stus-List Dodger for 34+
My latest revision to my dodger was to make the front window zip out & 
able to be completely removed--this eliminates the  hassle of rolling it 
up.
Bob

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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List 

  
  
Marek,

Unfortunately not looking likely.  Best price I've found is Marine
Outfitters $1799.  Vs Binnacle $1899 or Defender $1599 US (which is
$2100 plus international shipping).

Guess the grand ideas can wait!

Mark


There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George Santayana
On 2015-10-19 4:45 PM, Marek Dziedzic
  via CnC-List wrote:


  
  

  Mark,
   
  if you find an autopilot for under $1000, let me know.
Defender had (still has?) a boat show special, but even with
their discounts, when you add the conversion to CAD, it is a
lot of money. Not to mention that if you buy at Binnacle you
have someone local to yell at, if anything goes wrong.
   
  I don’t think Garmin has a wheel option; they are all (?)
suing a linear drive (I think).
   
  Marek
  

   
  
From: Dr. Mark Bodnar
via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 3:27 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Cc: Dr. Mark Bodnar

Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
  

 
  
  
Steve,
I'm interested to know how it works out.
I could use new instruments (mine are just original depth
and speed from 1986) - plus I've been hankering for a
autopilot.
That site is selling a Raymarine SPX-5 Wheelpilot for $675
(vs $1900 for a EV-100 kit from Binnacle).  http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Raymarine-SPX%252d5-Wheelpilot-Pack-with-p70.html

From what I can find the SPX-5 is ~7yrs old.  Any thoughts
from the group on the value of newer technology? I could add
the ST60 pack for $659 (rather than $1800 for a current
set). and still spend less than I was thinking for just an
autopilot. -- I'm guessing it's smarter to match the
Raymarine autopilot with the Raymarine instruments rather
than the Garmin.

Both use the NMEA2000 and SeaTalk - so they should work
together and with other gear.

Any thoughts?  If it's just older gear at a good price then
might be a good deal.. Ok  - A little searching for
reviews looks like the site is bogus.  
Just for interest I tried entering an order using fake
address etc - they want a bank transfer sent - do not accept
credit cards or even PayPal!

Shoot.  Enough to get my hopes up.

Mark
There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
  - George Santayana
On 2015-10-19 10:19 AM, Stevan
  Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:


  I'm actually considering this:
http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html

 
My concern is just the reputation of the vendor,
  not so much the product.
 
Cheers,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto/Midland
 
  
  
 
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00
  AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
  wrote:
  

  
Sorry – just re-read this. 
Thought the prices were from Defender.  
 

  
From:
CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via
CnC-List
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015
9:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Hoyt, Mike

  
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

  


  
 
Steve
 
The ST60 instruments are
very reliable.  At  that price you
should stop thinking and start
spending. 

Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Graham Collins via CnC-List 

How about "If they can beat Fred's price..."

Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2015-10-19 11:35 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:

If it seems too good to be true...

http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/sale-tools.com

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Oct 19, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Wow - that is a great price.  I have Raymarine speed / depth on my 
new boat (no wind instrument at all), a Garmin plotter and Furuno 
radar.  It would be worth replacing the speed / depth to get a modern 
package that integrates natively with the plotter at that price.  
Please let me know what you find about the vendor.


Thanks,

Tim
Mojito
C&C 35-3
Branford, CT

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via 
CnC-Listmailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>wrote:


I'm actually considering this:

http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html

My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the
product.

Cheers,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto/Midland





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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Graham Collins via CnC-List 
I've never had great luck yelling at the people at the Binnacle, but 
maybe you are more persuasive than I am...


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2015-10-19 4:45 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List wrote:

Mark,
if you find an autopilot for under $1000, let me know. Defender had 
(still has?) a boat show special, but even with their discounts, when 
you add the conversion to CAD, it is a lot of money. Not to mention 
that if you buy at Binnacle you have someone local to yell at, if 
anything goes wrong.
I don’t think Garmin has a wheel option; they are all (?) suing a 
linear drive (I think).

Marek
*From:* Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List 
*Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 3:27 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
*Cc:* Dr. Mark Bodnar 
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

Steve,
I'm interested to know how it works out.
I could use new instruments (mine are just original depth and speed 
from 1986) - plus I've been hankering for a autopilot.
That site is selling a Raymarine SPX-5 Wheelpilot for $675 (vs $1900 
for a EV-100 kit from Binnacle). 
http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Raymarine-SPX%252d5-Wheelpilot-Pack-with-p70.html


From what I can find the SPX-5 is ~7yrs old.  Any thoughts from the 
group on the value of newer technology? I could add the ST60 pack for 
$659 (rather than $1800 for a current set). and still spend less than 
I was thinking for just an autopilot. -- I'm guessing it's smarter to 
match the Raymarine autopilot with the Raymarine instruments rather 
than the Garmin.


Both use the NMEA2000 and SeaTalk - so they should work together and 
with other gear.


Any thoughts?  If it's just older gear at a good price then might be a 
good deal.. Ok  - A little searching for reviews looks like the 
site is bogus.
Just for interest I tried entering an order using fake address etc - 
they want a bank transfer sent - do not accept credit cards or even 
PayPal!


Shoot.  Enough to get my hopes up.

Mark
There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
   - George Santayana
On 2015-10-19 10:19 AM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List wrote:

I'm actually considering this:
http://www.sale-tools.com/products/Garmin-Ultimate-Sailing-Bundle-GWS%252dDST800%252d3-GMI.html
My concern is just the reputation of the vendor, not so much the product.
Cheers,
Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto/Midland
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List 
 wrote:


Sorry – just re-read this. Thought the prices were from Defender.

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com
] *On Behalf Of *Hoyt, Mike
via CnC-List
*Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2015 9:56 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
*Cc:* Hoyt, Mike


*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

Steve

The ST60 instruments are very reliable.  At  that price you
should stop thinking and start spending.  You will not regret it

IMO the ST60 series is more robust and superior to the newer
i50/i60 (which we have)

Mike

Persistence

Halifax

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Steve

I have had the st 60 pack on Alianna for 7 or 8 years now and I
really like it, big numbers easy to read and no big issues with
any component yet.  that is a very good price

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, */Alianna/*

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

d.ve...@bellaliant.net

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
 wrote:

Hi, anyone ever buy anything from sale-tools.com
?


http://www.sale-tools.com/categories/Marine-Electronics/Fishfinders%7B47%7DChartplotters/

Their prices on marine electronics are unbelievable (literally).
Seems fishy but I figured it's worth asking. Some of their stuff
is older so it makes sense that it would be cheap (ST60 three
pack for ~700 etc).

Thoughts?

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Midland


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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
Ha!  I recently had to suggest to a lister to get a wheelpilot from Defender; 
for some reason, the sale price they were running was actually over $100 below 
my wholesale cost from my vendor.  Volume purchasing does have its advantages… 
the rest of the time, I can beat their pricing.

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

> On Oct 19, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> How about "If they can beat Fred's price..."
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C&C 35-III #11
> On 2015-10-19 11:35 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:
>> If it seems too good to be true...
>> 
>> http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/sale-tools.com 
>> 
>> 
>> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
>> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

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Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+

2015-10-19 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
Our dodger is made in six panels.  One panel is the "roof", one the front
window, one panel for each side, including the window, and one in each
front corner, connecting the side panels to the front.  Any of these can be
unzipped and removed (except the two front corners) and the frame and top
will stay in place.

Works nice this way.

Ken H.

C&C 37 XL

On 19 October 2015 at 18:54, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> This winter I am thinking about having my canvas guy add zippers to remove
> all 3 front windows.. That would make things easier when racing.  Currently
> we rollup the middle on and use making tape to keep the to others folded on
> the sides to stay out out of the traveler / winch handles..
>
> If you're into racing it might be something to consider.
>
> -Francois Rivard
> 1990 34+ "Take Five"
> lake Lanier, Ga.
>
>
>
>
> From: svpegasu...@gmail.com via CnC-List >
> To: cnc-list >
> Cc: svpegasus38 >
> Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2015 9:48 pm
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Dodger for 34+
>
>I just got a new dodger, the front window zips out or swings up and
> hangs from snaps on the bottom side of the dodger top. Thinking of doing
> the same to the transition panel between dodger and bimini.?
>Doug MountjoysvPegasusLF38 just west of Ballard, WA.
>
> -- Original message--From: Robert Boyer via CnC-ListDate: Wed, Oct
> 14, 2015 14:02To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com;Cc: Robert Boyer;Subject:Re:
> Stus-List Dodger for 34+
> My latest revision to my dodger was to make the front window zip out &
> able to be completely removed--this eliminates the  hassle of rolling it up.
> Bob
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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
heck the Raymarine site is actually beating defenders price by over $110 on a 
EV200 below deck auto pilot plus free shipping makes it an even better deal.  
Not sure about taxes though... I didn't really look at the wheel pilots 
though... I'll try and see where i got the one for the Viking.  i remember it 
was a good deal. Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Frederick G Street 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:26:42 -0500


Ha!  I recently had to suggest to a lister to get a wheelpilot from Defender; 
for some reason, the sale price they were running was actually over $100 below 
my wholesale cost from my vendor.  Volume purchasing does have its 
advantages� the rest of the time, I can beat their pricing.
Fred Street -- MinneapolisS/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in 
Bayfield, WI   :^( 
On Oct 19, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List 
 wrote:How about "If they can beat Fred's 
price..."Graham CollinsSecret PlansC&C 35-III #11On 2015-10-19 11:35 AM, 
Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:If it seems too good to be true... 
http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/sale-tools.comFred Street -- 
MinneapolisS/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   
:^( 
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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List 
Here is what I know about RayMarine autopilots. 
The autopilot is the most important electronics on the boat and the biggest 
bang for the buck. 
Wait for a sale. 
Bought a wheel pilot from Defender in 2003 for $779. 
The control head went bad this past June after 12 years. Looked into underdeck 
systems and the extra $1000 or more for a linear drive and the labor and 
expense to install, convinced me to go wheel pilot. 
Bought a complete wheel autopilot EV-100 kit in July for $1339 from 
AnchorExpress.com 
It contained a P-70 control head, a sensor, a Computer Unit w multiple motion 
sensors and an ST-4000 MKIII wheel steerer, and cables. 
Upgraded my warranty w Raymarine to three years for free. Still waiting for a 
promised $200 rebate. 


Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

- Original Message -

From: "Frederick G Street via CnC-List"  
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: "Frederick G Street"  
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 6:26:42 PM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools 

Ha! I recently had to suggest to a lister to get a wheelpilot from Defender; 
for some reason, the sale price they were running was actually over $100 below 
my wholesale cost from my vendor. Volume purchasing does have its advantages… 
the rest of the time, I can beat their pricing. 

Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( 




On Oct 19, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote: 

How about "If they can beat Fred's price..." 
Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11 
On 2015-10-19 11:35 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote: 



If it seems too good to be true... 

http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/sale-tools.com 

Fred Street -- Minneapolis 
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( 








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Re: Stus-List Sale Tools

2015-10-19 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List 
All US vendors but I've bought electronics and electrical items from Hodges
Marine and thegpsstore.com lately and gotten decent pricing.

Digitaloasis has good prices but limited selections.

Dennis C.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> heck the Raymarine site is actually beating defenders price by over $110
> on a EV200 below deck auto pilot plus free shipping makes it an even better
> deal.  Not sure about taxes though...
>
> I didn't really look at the wheel pilots though...
>
> I'll try and see where i got the one for the Viking.  i remember it was a
> good deal.
>
> Danny
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Frederick G Street 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Sale Tools
> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:26:42 -0500
>
> Ha!  I recently had to suggest to a lister to get a wheelpilot from
> Defender; for some reason, the sale price they were running was actually
> over $100 below my wholesale cost from my vendor.  Volume purchasing does
> have its advantages� the rest of the time, I can beat their pricing.
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
>
>
> On Oct 19, 2015, at 5:17 PM, Graham Collins via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> How about "If they can beat Fred's price..."
>
> Graham Collins
> Secret Plans
> C&C 35-III #11
>
> On 2015-10-19 11:35 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List wrote:
>
> If it seems too good to be true...
>
> http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/sale-tools.com
> Fred Street -- Minneapolis
> S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(
>
>
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