Re: Stus-List Cunningham

[Dan via CnC-List]

Sam,

Well for certain I’m filled with envy considering I’m sitting in the Pacific 
North West and thought last weekends 63 degrees was fantastic for sailing 
(winds 10 - 15 KTS).  But I’d much rather be where you are!  I’m a relatively 
new sailor with a 26’ that I’ve had for about 6 months - and I’m always anxious 
to learn the nuances of the boat.  It came with a large selection of very nice 
sails (6) and my first attempts at sailing her went very well and I was solo.  
While new at sailing boats I have a lifetime of using the wind for power with 
over 30 years as a hang glider pilot, wind surfer, and paraglider pilot.  So 
it’s learning the mechanics of how best to set sails; at this point the proper 
way of raising the sails.  I’m taking ASA sailing lessons in April which should 
show me some of the equipment that I’m not familiar with.  If you have any 
words of wisdom aside from sitting in a bar in Antigua, sounds so nice, I 
surely appreciate it.

Kind Regards,

Dan Utinske
C&C 26'




Dan


On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote:

> ‎I'm sitting here in a bar on the dock in Jolly Harbour, Antigua.  
> The boat we’re sailing doesn't have one and I must admit I didn't miss it - 
> you can work around it and the sailing priorities are different.  
> But I have one on the 26 and I have a jack line.
> I wouldn't be without it! I use it all the time to bring the draft forward 
> without cupping the leech. If you're racing, it allows the draft to be 
> brought forward without going above the black line.
> That's all - I need another gin and tonic.
>  
> Sam :-)  
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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[Richard N. Bush via CnC-List]

Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a 
centerboard and have been cruising for several years now; 
http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/
 
Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to the 
Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/
 
 
I'm sure there's more.

Richard
1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;


Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255

 
 
-Original Message-
From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
To: C&C List Canada 
Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am
Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore


Happy winter everyone. 
I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to make 
dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a 
little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the ICW, 
wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas.  
His 
spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, who 
knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to tag 
along with someone going that way for safety. 
Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm 
curious on how they handle a big sea. 

Cheers
Brent Driedger
27-5
Lake Winnipeg. 

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Re: Stus-List Cunningham

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Sam, 

for some winter reading get yourself some books on trim and sail use and 
general sailing.

There are few online (PDF) sources that might be of interest (e.g.: 
http://sfbaysss.net/resource/doc/SinglehandedTipsThirdEdition.pdf, or 
http://setsail.com/mwh.pdf, or http://setsail.com/sts.pdf). 

But probably the best one book I could recommend is Don Guillette’s Sail Trim 
Guide (http://www.sailtrimproducts.com/sail_trim_users_guide.html). This might 
be the best $25 you ever spend on the boat.

Marek

From: Dan via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 6:42 AM
To: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cunningham

Sam, 

Well for certain I’m filled with envy considering I’m sitting in the Pacific 
North West and thought last weekends 63 degrees was fantastic for sailing 
(winds 10 - 15 KTS).  But I’d much rather be where you are!  I’m a relatively 
new sailor with a 26’ that I’ve had for about 6 months - and I’m always anxious 
to learn the nuances of the boat.  It came with a large selection of very nice 
sails (6) and my first attempts at sailing her went very well and I was solo.  
While new at sailing boats I have a lifetime of using the wind for power with 
over 30 years as a hang glider pilot, wind surfer, and paraglider pilot.  So 
it’s learning the mechanics of how best to set sails; at this point the proper 
way of raising the sails.  I’m taking ASA sailing lessons in April which should 
show me some of the equipment that I’m not familiar with.  If you have any 
words of wisdom aside from sitting in a bar in Antigua, sounds so nice, I 
surely appreciate it.

Kind Regards,

Dan Utinske
C&C 26'



Dan

On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote:

  ‎I'm sitting here in a bar on the dock in Jolly Harbour, Antigua. 
  The boat we’re sailing doesn't have one and I must admit I didn't miss it - 
you can work around it and the sailing priorities are different. 
  But I have one on the 26 and I have a jack line.
  I wouldn't be without it! I use it all the time to bring the draft forward 
without cupping the leech. If you're racing, it allows the draft to be brought 
forward without going above the black line.
  That's all - I need another gin and tonic.


  Sam :-)
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Re: Stus-List Cunningham

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‎Yeah, I've got a bunch of sail trim books - most I keep in the bathroom where I have time to sit and cogitate! About 6 years ago I took an advanced sail trim course out of Bellingham, WA. Boat was a custom 52 ft Wylie (sp) with every conceivable sail trim option. Course was about $400 and well worth it. Gave me a whole new level of trim understanding.I'm an aeronautical engineer so I'm quite anal about sail trim and probably tweak more often than necessary, but it's all part of the fun.This stuff is not "rocket science " but I am one anyway!!!  sam :-)C&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta (currently Dufour 42 / Jolly Harbour Antigua)  From: Marek Dziedzic via CnC-ListSent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:08 AMTo: Dan; cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: Marek DziedzicSubject: Re: Stus-List Cunningham



Sam, 
 
for some winter reading get yourself some books on trim and sail use and 
general sailing.
 
There are few online (PDF) sources that might be of interest (e.g.: http://sfbaysss.net/resource/doc/SinglehandedTipsThirdEdition.pdf, 
or http://setsail.com/mwh.pdf, or http://setsail.com/sts.pdf). 
 
But probably the best one book I could recommend is Don Guillette’s Sail 
Trim Guide (http://www.sailtrimproducts.com/sail_trim_users_guide.html). 
This might be the best $25 you ever spend on the boat.
 
Marek


 

From: Dan via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 6:42 AM
To: sam.c.sal...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cunningham
 

Sam, 
 
Well for certain I’m filled with envy considering I’m sitting in the 
Pacific North West and thought last weekends 63 degrees was fantastic for 
sailing (winds 10 - 15 KTS).  But I’d much rather be where you are!  
I’m a relatively new sailor with a 26’ that I’ve had for about 6 months - and 
I’m always anxious to learn the nuances of the boat.  It came with a large 
selection of very nice sails (6) and my first attempts at sailing her went very 
well and I was solo.  While new at sailing boats I have a lifetime of using 
the wind for power with over 30 years as a hang glider pilot, wind surfer, and 
paraglider pilot.  So it’s learning the mechanics of how best to set sails; 
at this point the proper way of raising the sails.  I’m taking ASA sailing 
lessons in April which should show me some of the equipment that I’m not 
familiar with.  If you have any words of wisdom aside from sitting in a bar 
in Antigua, sounds so nice, I surely appreciate it.
 
Kind Regards,
 
Dan Utinske
C&C 26'

 
 
 
Dan
 
On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sam Salter 
via CnC-List wrote:

  
  
  ‎I'm sitting 
  here in a bar on the dock in Jolly Harbour, Antigua. 
  The boat 
  we’re sailing doesn't have one and I must admit I didn't miss it - you can 
  work around it and the sailing priorities are different. 
  But I have 
  one on the 26 and I have a jack line.
  I wouldn't be 
  without it! I use it all the time to bring the draft forward without cupping 
  the leech. If you're racing, it allows the draft to be brought forward without 
  going above the black line.
  That's all - 
  I need another gin and tonic.
  
  Sam 
  :-)
  
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Re: Stus-List Cunningham

[Dan Utinske via CnC-List]

Sam,

I have to say you're a hell of a lot smarter than me.. I'm working at Fort
Lewis (Program Manager) providing aviation maintenance support throughout
the Western United States including Alaska and Hawaii and you're sitting in
a bar in Antigua!

I'm taking a similar course that will certify me ASA 103 near Tyee Marina
in Tacoma - should also be a larger vessel and the cost are similar.  Like
you I am anal about sail form and shape and while I may not be looking for
speed I am looking for efficiency.

Learning about my 26' is fun; I also have an Ericson 23' that I take out in
light winds basically because it's easier to prepare.   I do appreciate
your taking time from your busy schedule to respond and if you have any
secrets on the 26 I'd surely appreciate it.

Have a great time!

Regards,

Dan

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:45 AM, Sam Salter via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> ‎Yeah, I've got a bunch of sail trim books - most I keep in the bathroom
> where I have time to sit and cogitate!
>
> About 6 years ago I took an advanced sail trim course out of Bellingham,
> WA. Boat was a custom 52 ft Wylie (sp) with every conceivable sail trim
> option. Course was about $400 and well worth it. Gave me a whole new level
> of trim understanding.
>
> I'm an aeronautical engineer so I'm quite anal about sail trim and
> probably tweak more often than necessary, but it's all part of the fun.
>
> This stuff is not "rocket science " but I am one anyway!!!
>
> sam :-)
> C&C 26 Liquorice
> Ghost Lake Alberta
> (currently Dufour 42 / Jolly Harbour Antigua)
>   *From: *Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:08 AM
> *To: *Dan; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Reply To: *Marek Dziedzic
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Cunningham
>
>  Sam,
>
> for some winter reading get yourself some books on trim and sail use and
> general sailing.
>
> There are few online (PDF) sources that might be of interest (e.g.:
> http://sfbaysss.net/resource/doc/SinglehandedTipsThirdEdition.pdf, or
> http://setsail.com/mwh.pdf, or http://setsail.com/sts.pdf).
>
> But probably the best one book I could recommend is Don Guillette’s Sail
> Trim Guide (http://www.sailtrimproducts.com/sail_trim_users_guide.html).
> This might be the best $25 you ever spend on the boat.
>
> Marek
>
>  *From:* Dan via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 28, 2015 6:42 AM
> *To:* sam.c.sal...@gmail.com ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Cunningham
>
>  Sam,
>
> Well for certain I’m filled with envy considering I’m sitting in the
> Pacific North West and thought last weekends 63 degrees was fantastic for
> sailing (winds 10 - 15 KTS).  But I’d much rather be where you are!  I’m a
> relatively new sailor with a 26’ that I’ve had for about 6 months - and I’m
> always anxious to learn the nuances of the boat.  It came with a large
> selection of very nice sails (6) and my first attempts at sailing her went
> very well and I was solo.  While new at sailing boats I have a lifetime of
> using the wind for power with over 30 years as a hang glider pilot, wind
> surfer, and paraglider pilot.  So it’s learning the mechanics of how best
> to set sails; at this point the proper way of raising the sails.  I’m
> taking ASA sailing lessons in April which should show me some of the
> equipment that I’m not familiar with.  If you have any words of wisdom
> aside from sitting in a bar in Antigua, sounds so nice, I surely appreciate
> it.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Dan Utinske
> C&C 26'
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sam Salter via CnC-List wrote:
>
>  ‎I'm sitting here in a bar on the dock in Jolly Harbour, Antigua.
> The boat we’re sailing doesn't have one and I must admit I didn't miss it
> - you can work around it and the sailing priorities are different.
> But I have one on the 26 and I have a jack line.
> I wouldn't be without it! I use it all the time to bring the draft forward
> without cupping the leech. If you're racing, it allows the draft to be
> brought forward without going above the black line.
> That's all - I need another gin and tonic.
>
> Sam :-)
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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[Chuck S via CnC-List]

Hi Brent, 
I've always felt offshore capabilities of various boats depended more on the 
skipper than the boat. Look at what Slocum took around the world. Now they are 
crossing ocean with rowboats. 

I've always been a fan of Finnistere, the S&S 38ft centerboarder that won 
Newport to Bermuda race several times and also did some long cruises 
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5663 

I should think a C&C 34 CB known to be tender, could still be handled in most 
conditions, and the shoal draft should be great for the shallows areas. 

Call me crazy, but I also think your 27 MkV could be trailered to Florida in 
1/10th the time and sailed to the islands just fine. Pick your weather and 
window and go. 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

- Original Message -

From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List"  
To: bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:50:30 AM 
Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore 

Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a 
centerboard and have been cruising for several years now; 
http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/ 
Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to the 
Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/ 
I'm sure there's more. 
Richard 
1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596; 

Richard N. Bush 
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255 
-Original Message- 
From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List  
To: C&C List Canada  
Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am 
Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore 

Happy winter everyone. 
I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to make 
dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a 
little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the ICW, 
wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas.  
His 
spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, who 
knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to tag 
along with someone going that way for safety. 
Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm 
curious on how they handle a big sea. 

Cheers
Brent Driedger
27-5
Lake Winnipeg. 

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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Though I like the idea of trailer ing down to Fla and sailing across, (and 
you're right, it would be easy with the 27), I'm looking forward to doing a 
little exploring on the way down from the Chesapeake, hopping in and out of the 
ditch. I suspect that not having a schedule will make it as much fun as 
cruising the Bahamas.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine 
 

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> On Jan 28, 2015, at 17:23, Chuck S via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brent,
> I've always felt offshore capabilities of various boats depended more on the 
> skipper than the boat.  Look at what Slocum took around the world.Now 
> they are crossing ocean with rowboats.  
> 
> I've always been a fan of Finnistere, the S&S 38ft centerboarder that won 
> Newport to Bermuda race several times and also did some long cruises 
> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5663
> 
> I should think a C&C 34 CB known to be tender, could still be handled in most 
> conditions, and the shoal draft should be great for the shallows areas.   
> 
> Call me crazy, but I also think your 27 MkV could be trailered to Florida in 
> 1/10th the time and sailed to the islands just fine.  Pick your weather and 
> window and go.
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
> 
> From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
> To: bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:50:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore
> 
> Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a 
> centerboard and have been cruising for several years now; 
> http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/
>  
> Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to the 
> Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/
>  
>  
> I'm sure there's more.
> Richard
> 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>  
> 
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
> To: C&C List Canada 
> Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am
> Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore
> 
> Happy winter everyone. 
> I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to make 
> dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a 
> little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the 
> ICW, 
> wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas.  
> His 
> spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, 
> who 
> knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to tag 
> along with someone going that way for safety. 
> Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm 
> curious on how they handle a big sea. 
> 
> Cheers
> Brent Driedger
> 27-5
> Lake Winnipeg. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[David via CnC-List]

Brent,

My 1981 40' is the big brother of the 34'.  Although we are a deep draft (7'6") 
the hull shapes are probably very similar.   I can tell you Corsair has been 
out in "stuff" (40+ knots)  in the Gulf of Main and the Gulf Stream on the way 
to and fro Bermuda.  Her handling and construction has never let me down and in 
fact, if all goes to plan, we plan on taking her "cross the pond" in 2017.

And at the other end of the spectrum her light air capabilities are great.   
Will go 3-4 knots when others are motoring and burning fuel.

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 22:23:20 +
To: bushma...@aol.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Hi Brent,
I've always felt offshore capabilities of various boats depended more on the 
skipper than the boat.  Look at what Slocum took around the world.Now they 
are crossing ocean with rowboats.  

I've always been a fan of Finnistere, the S&S 38ft centerboarder that won 
Newport to Bermuda race several times and also did some long cruises 
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5663
I should think a C&C 34 CB known to be tender, could still be handled in most 
conditions, and the shoal draft should be great for the shallows areas.   
Call me crazy, but I also think your 27 MkV could be trailered to Florida in 
1/10th the time and sailed to the islands just fine.  Pick your weather and 
window and go.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
To: bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:50:30 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore


Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a 
centerboard and have been cruising for several years now; 
http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/

 

Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to the 
Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/

 

 

I'm sure there's more.



Richard


1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;

 



Richard N. Bush

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From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List 

To: C&C List Canada 

Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am

Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore









Happy winter everyone. 
I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to make 
dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a 
little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the ICW, 
wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas.  
His 
spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, who 
knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to tag 
along with someone going that way for safety. 
Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm 
curious on how they handle a big sea. 

Cheers
Brent Driedger
27-5
Lake Winnipeg. 

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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List]

Andy

If you are in the ICW in Savannah look me up. We live on the water and not
far off the ICW. Always happy to put up a fellow C&C owner at our dock for
a few days.

Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY
C&C 39 TM



On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Though I like the idea of trailer ing down to Fla and sailing across, (and
> you're right, it would be easy with the 27), I'm looking forward to doing a
> little exploring on the way down from the Chesapeake, hopping in and out of
> the ditch. I suspect that not having a schedule will make it as much fun as
> cruising the Bahamas.
>
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine
>
>
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Jan 28, 2015, at 17:23, Chuck S via CnC-List 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Brent,
> I've always felt offshore capabilities of various boats depended more on
> the skipper than the boat.  Look at what Slocum took around the world.
> Now they are crossing ocean with rowboats.
>
> I've always been a fan of Finnistere, the S&S 38ft centerboarder that won
> Newport to Bermuda race several times and also did some long cruises
> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5663
>
> I should think a C&C 34 CB known to be tender, could still be handled in
> most conditions, and the shoal draft should be great for the shallows
> areas.
>
> Call me crazy, but I also think your 27 MkV could be trailered to Florida
> in 1/10th the time and sailed to the islands just fine.  Pick your weather
> and window and go.
>
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>
> --
> *From: *"Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
> *To: *bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:50:30 AM
> *Subject: *Re: Stus-List 34 offshore
>
> Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a
> centerboard and have been cruising for several years now;
> http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/
>
> Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to
> the Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/
>
>
> I'm sure there's more.
>  Richard
> 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>
>
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462
> 502-584-7255
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
> To: C&C List Canada 
> Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am
> Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore
>
>  Happy winter everyone.
> I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to make
> dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a
> little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the 
> ICW,
> wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas.  
> His
> spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, 
> who
> knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to tag
> along with someone going that way for safety.
> Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm
> curious on how they handle a big sea.
>
> Cheers
> Brent Driedger
> 27-5
> Lake Winnipeg.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Brent,

Although it was not a CB version, many years ago I delivered a C&C 34 from Ft. 
Lauderdale to Port Royal, Jamaica, no stops.

It was that experience that made me very interested in C&C’s and because of 
that when I happened to see what is now Ronin abandoned in a yard, I was 
confident in the fact that I would be owning what would be a very nice sailing 
and sea-keeping boat.

I don’t think that you will be unduly disadvantage by having a CB version 
versus the full keel version. As others have mentioned, it would be perfect for 
a trip down the ICW and most certainly for the skinny areas of the Bahamas. My 
brother’s father-in-law, a 20-year Navy destroyer captain and lifelong sailboat 
racer and offshore cruiser wouldn’t have anything other that a CB sailboat.

A favorable impression that I had about the boat was that although we spent 
most of the time going to windward down the "Thorny Path” it was easy to sail, 
pretty dry and comfortable. We didn’t experience any “big” seas fortunately and 
once we bore off and ran down the Trades to Jamaica with the ‘chute up it was 
great fun.

And I concur with Chuck, pick your season, the right weather window and pretty 
much any well-found boat will be fine in the Bahamas. The CB will open up a lot 
more anchorages than the 6’ 8” draft of my boat which I have dreams of taking 
to the Bahamas.

Sometimes it’s the journey, not the boat.

Best,
Dave Godwin
1982 C&C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 
> On Jan 28, 2015, at 5:23 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brent,
> I've always felt offshore capabilities of various boats depended more on the 
> skipper than the boat.  Look at what Slocum took around the world.Now 
> they are crossing ocean with rowboats.  
> 
> I've always been a fan of Finnistere, the S&S 38ft centerboarder that won 
> Newport to Bermuda race several times and also did some long cruises 
> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5663 
> 
> 
> I should think a C&C 34 CB known to be tender, could still be handled in most 
> conditions, and the shoal draft should be great for the shallows areas.   
> 
> Call me crazy, but I also think your 27 MkV could be trailered to Florida in 
> 1/10th the time and sailed to the islands just fine.  Pick your weather and 
> window and go.
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
> 
> From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
> To: bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:50:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore
> 
> Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a 
> centerboard and have been cruising for several years now; 
> http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/ 
>  
> Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to the 
> Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/ 
>  
>  
> I'm sure there's more.
> Richard
> 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>  
> 
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
> To: C&C List Canada 
> Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am
> Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore
> 
> Happy winter everyone. 
> I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to make 
> dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a 
> little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the 
> ICW, 
> wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas.  
> His 
> spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, 
> who 
> knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to tag 
> along with someone going that way for safety. 
> Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm 
> curious on how they handle a big sea. 
> 
> Cheers
> Brent Driedger
> 27-5
> Lake Winnipeg. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[John Pennie via CnC-List]

As others have mentioned it's more about the sailor and weather than the boat. 
With that said a 34 would leave very little room for error and wouldn't be my 
first choice. Fine for the ICW and a hop to the Bahamas but for extended 
offshore... not so much.  Aside from that, cargo capacity becomes a top 
priority for longer term sailing.  Geometry is working against the 34 there.

I always liked the 34 and may yet own one someday. I'll keep her within the 
design parameters.

Just an opinion

John


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> On Jan 28, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Though I like the idea of trailer ing down to Fla and sailing across, (and 
> you're right, it would be easy with the 27), I'm looking forward to doing a 
> little exploring on the way down from the Chesapeake, hopping in and out of 
> the ditch. I suspect that not having a schedule will make it as much fun as 
> cruising the Bahamas.
> 
> Andy
> C&C 40
> Peregrine 
>  
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 61 W Narragansett
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2015, at 17:23, Chuck S via CnC-List  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brent,
>> I've always felt offshore capabilities of various boats depended more on the 
>> skipper than the boat.  Look at what Slocum took around the world.Now 
>> they are crossing ocean with rowboats.  
>> 
>> I've always been a fan of Finnistere, the S&S 38ft centerboarder that won 
>> Newport to Bermuda race several times and also did some long cruises 
>> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5663
>> 
>> I should think a C&C 34 CB known to be tender, could still be handled in 
>> most conditions, and the shoal draft should be great for the shallows areas. 
>>   
>> 
>> Call me crazy, but I also think your 27 MkV could be trailered to Florida in 
>> 1/10th the time and sailed to the islands just fine.  Pick your weather and 
>> window and go.
>> 
>> Chuck
>> Resolute
>> 1990 C&C 34R
>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>> 
>> From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
>> To: bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:50:30 AM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore
>> 
>> Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a 
>> centerboard and have been cruising for several years now; 
>> http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/
>>  
>> Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to the 
>> Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/
>>  
>>  
>> I'm sure there's more.
>> Richard
>> 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>>  
>> 
>> Richard N. Bush
>> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
>> 502-584-7255
>>  
>>  
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
>> To: C&C List Canada 
>> Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am
>> Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore
>> 
>> Happy winter everyone. 
>> I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to 
>> make 
>> dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a 
>> little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the 
>> ICW, 
>> wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas.  
>> His 
>> spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, 
>> who 
>> knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to 
>> tag 
>> along with someone going that way for safety. 
>> Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm 
>> curious on how they handle a big sea. 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Brent Driedger
>> 27-5
>> Lake Winnipeg. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[cpt.burt via CnC-List]

Hey Andy we are over in Beaufort. We should hook up sometime.  Maybe on the May 
river?  


Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


 Original message 
From: Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List  
Date:01/28/2015  17:53  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Andrew Burton , C&CList  
Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore 

Andy

If you are in the ICW in Savannah look me up. We live on the water and not far 
off the ICW. Always happy to put up a fellow C&C owner at our dock for a few 
days.

Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY
C&C 39 TM



On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Though I like the idea of trailer ing down to Fla and sailing across, (and 
you're right, it would be easy with the 27), I'm looking forward to doing a 
little exploring on the way down from the Chesapeake, hopping in and out of the 
ditch. I suspect that not having a schedule will make it as much fun as 
cruising the Bahamas.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine 
 

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

On Jan 28, 2015, at 17:23, Chuck S via CnC-List  wrote:

Hi Brent,
I've always felt offshore capabilities of various boats depended more on the 
skipper than the boat.  Look at what Slocum took around the world.Now they 
are crossing ocean with rowboats.  

I've always been a fan of Finnistere, the S&S 38ft centerboarder that won 
Newport to Bermuda race several times and also did some long cruises 
http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5663

I should think a C&C 34 CB known to be tender, could still be handled in most 
conditions, and the shoal draft should be great for the shallows areas.   

Call me crazy, but I also think your 27 MkV could be trailered to Florida in 
1/10th the time and sailed to the islands just fine.  Pick your weather and 
window and go.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md

From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
To: bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:50:30 AM
Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a 
centerboard and have been cruising for several years now; 
http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/
 
Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to the 
Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/
 
 
I'm sure there's more.
Richard
1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
 

Richard N. Bush
2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
502-584-7255
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
To: C&C List Canada 
Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am
Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore

Happy winter everyone. 
I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to make 
dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a 
little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the ICW, 
wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas.  
His 
spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, who 
knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to tag 
along with someone going that way for safety. 
Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm 
curious on how they handle a big sea. 

Cheers
Brent Driedger
27-5
Lake Winnipeg. 

Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[Brent Driedger via CnC-List]

Now that's a dream Chuck. In the near future anyway. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2015, at 4:23 PM, Chuck S via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brent,
> I've always felt offshore capabilities of various boats depended more on the 
> skipper than the boat.  Look at what Slocum took around the world.Now 
> they are crossing ocean with rowboats.  
> 
> I've always been a fan of Finnistere, the S&S 38ft centerboarder that won 
> Newport to Bermuda race several times and also did some long cruises 
> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5663
> 
> I should think a C&C 34 CB known to be tender, could still be handled in most 
> conditions, and the shoal draft should be great for the shallows areas.   
> 
> Call me crazy, but I also think your 27 MkV could be trailered to Florida in 
> 1/10th the time and sailed to the islands just fine.  Pick your weather and 
> window and go.
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
> 
> From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
> To: bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:50:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore
> 
> Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a 
> centerboard and have been cruising for several years now; 
> http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/
>  
> Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to the 
> Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/
>  
>  
> I'm sure there's more.
> Richard
> 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>  
> 
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
> To: C&C List Canada 
> Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am
> Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore
> 
> Happy winter everyone. 
> I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to make 
> dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a 
> little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the 
> ICW, 
> wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas.  
> His 
> spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, 
> who 
> knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to tag 
> along with someone going that way for safety. 
> Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm 
> curious on how they handle a big sea. 
> 
> Cheers
> Brent Driedger
> 27-5
> Lake Winnipeg. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[Brent Driedger via CnC-List]

Thanks for the info guys. I'm not planning anything right now, this is more 
food for thought.  I gotta get the young ones raised first since the Admiral 
will have no part in cruising. This particular boat is not my first choice for 
a crossing of any kind but since my crew member is in the midst of it in just 
such a yacht, I was wondering how it would treat him.  
According to his blog he crossed the Gulf Stream under power at night to get to 
Bimini.  Seems like a waste of a good sailing opportunity to me but then again 
I write this from the warm comfort of my house. 

Brent D
27-5
Lake Winnipeg.   

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2015, at 5:46 PM, cpt.burt via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey Andy we are over in Beaufort. We should hook up sometime.  Maybe on the 
> May river?  
> 
> 
> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
> Date:01/28/2015 17:53 (GMT-05:00) 
> To: Andrew Burton , C&CList 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore 
> 
> Andy
> 
> If you are in the ICW in Savannah look me up. We live on the water and not 
> far off the ICW. Always happy to put up a fellow C&C owner at our dock for a 
> few days.
> 
> Jack Fitzgerald
> HONEY
> C&C 39 TM
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Though I like the idea of trailer ing down to Fla and sailing across, (and 
>> you're right, it would be easy with the 27), I'm looking forward to doing a 
>> little exploring on the way down from the Chesapeake, hopping in and out of 
>> the ditch. I suspect that not having a schedule will make it as much fun as 
>> cruising the Bahamas.
>> 
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine 
>>  
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2015, at 17:23, Chuck S via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brent,
>>> I've always felt offshore capabilities of various boats depended more on 
>>> the skipper than the boat.  Look at what Slocum took around the world.
>>> Now they are crossing ocean with rowboats.  
>>> 
>>> I've always been a fan of Finnistere, the S&S 38ft centerboarder that won 
>>> Newport to Bermuda race several times and also did some long cruises 
>>> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5663
>>> 
>>> I should think a C&C 34 CB known to be tender, could still be handled in 
>>> most conditions, and the shoal draft should be great for the shallows 
>>> areas.   
>>> 
>>> Call me crazy, but I also think your 27 MkV could be trailered to Florida 
>>> in 1/10th the time and sailed to the islands just fine.  Pick your weather 
>>> and window and go.
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> Resolute
>>> 1990 C&C 34R
>>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>>> 
>>> From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
>>> To: bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:50:30 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore
>>> 
>>> Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a 
>>> centerboard and have been cruising for several years now; 
>>> http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/
>>>  
>>> Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to the 
>>> Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I'm sure there's more.
>>> Richard
>>> 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Richard N. Bush
>>> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>>> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
>>> 502-584-7255
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
>>> To: C&C List Canada 
>>> Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am
>>> Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore
>>> 
>>> Happy winter everyone. 
>>> I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to 
>>> make 
>>> dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a 
>>> little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the 
>>> ICW, 
>>> wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas. 
>>>  His 
>>> spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, 
>>> who 
>>> knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to 
>>> tag 
>>> along with someone going that way for safety. 
>>> Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm 
>>> curious on how they handle a big sea. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Brent Driedger
>>> 27-5
>>> Lake Winnipeg. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

I used to see a 30 Mk 1 in the Caribbean for years. She'd been sailed down from 
Ontario. Our boats are pretty stout...certainly a lot better than some of the 
boats built for cruising these days.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine 

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
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> On Jan 28, 2015, at 18:36, John Pennie via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> As others have mentioned it's more about the sailor and weather than the 
> boat. With that said a 34 would leave very little room for error and wouldn't 
> be my first choice. Fine for the ICW and a hop to the Bahamas but for 
> extended offshore... not so much.  Aside from that, cargo capacity becomes a 
> top priority for longer term sailing.  Geometry is working against the 34 
> there.
> 
> I always liked the 34 and may yet own one someday. I'll keep her within the 
> design parameters.
> 
> Just an opinion
> 
> John
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Though I like the idea of trailer ing down to Fla and sailing across, (and 
>> you're right, it would be easy with the 27), I'm looking forward to doing a 
>> little exploring on the way down from the Chesapeake, hopping in and out of 
>> the ditch. I suspect that not having a schedule will make it as much fun as 
>> cruising the Bahamas.
>> 
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine 
>>  
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2015, at 17:23, Chuck S via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brent,
>>> I've always felt offshore capabilities of various boats depended more on 
>>> the skipper than the boat.  Look at what Slocum took around the world.
>>> Now they are crossing ocean with rowboats.  
>>> 
>>> I've always been a fan of Finnistere, the S&S 38ft centerboarder that won 
>>> Newport to Bermuda race several times and also did some long cruises 
>>> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5663
>>> 
>>> I should think a C&C 34 CB known to be tender, could still be handled in 
>>> most conditions, and the shoal draft should be great for the shallows 
>>> areas.   
>>> 
>>> Call me crazy, but I also think your 27 MkV could be trailered to Florida 
>>> in 1/10th the time and sailed to the islands just fine.  Pick your weather 
>>> and window and go.
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> Resolute
>>> 1990 C&C 34R
>>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>>> 
>>> From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
>>> To: bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:50:30 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore
>>> 
>>> Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a 
>>> centerboard and have been cruising for several years now; 
>>> http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/
>>>  
>>> Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to the 
>>> Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I'm sure there's more.
>>> Richard
>>> 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Richard N. Bush
>>> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>>> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
>>> 502-584-7255
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
>>> To: C&C List Canada 
>>> Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am
>>> Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore
>>> 
>>> Happy winter everyone. 
>>> I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to 
>>> make 
>>> dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a 
>>> little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the 
>>> ICW, 
>>> wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas. 
>>>  His 
>>> spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, 
>>> who 
>>> knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to 
>>> tag 
>>> along with someone going that way for safety. 
>>> Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm 
>>> curious on how they handle a big sea. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Brent Driedger
>>> 27-5
>>> Lake Winnipeg. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Sounds good. I should be in that general neighborhood mid April getting a boat 
ready to head to the Med.

Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine 

Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
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> On Jan 28, 2015, at 18:46, cpt.burt via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Hey Andy we are over in Beaufort. We should hook up sometime.  Maybe on the 
> May river?  
> 
> 
> Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S® 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Jack Fitzgerald via CnC-List 
> Date:01/28/2015 17:53 (GMT-05:00) 
> To: Andrew Burton , C&CList 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore 
> 
> Andy
> 
> If you are in the ICW in Savannah look me up. We live on the water and not 
> far off the ICW. Always happy to put up a fellow C&C owner at our dock for a 
> few days.
> 
> Jack Fitzgerald
> HONEY
> C&C 39 TM
> 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Though I like the idea of trailer ing down to Fla and sailing across, (and 
>> you're right, it would be easy with the 27), I'm looking forward to doing a 
>> little exploring on the way down from the Chesapeake, hopping in and out of 
>> the ditch. I suspect that not having a schedule will make it as much fun as 
>> cruising the Bahamas.
>> 
>> Andy
>> C&C 40
>> Peregrine 
>>  
>> 
>> Andrew Burton
>> 61 W Narragansett
>> Newport, RI 
>> USA02840
>> 
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2015, at 17:23, Chuck S via CnC-List  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brent,
>>> I've always felt offshore capabilities of various boats depended more on 
>>> the skipper than the boat.  Look at what Slocum took around the world.
>>> Now they are crossing ocean with rowboats.  
>>> 
>>> I've always been a fan of Finnistere, the S&S 38ft centerboarder that won 
>>> Newport to Bermuda race several times and also did some long cruises 
>>> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5663
>>> 
>>> I should think a C&C 34 CB known to be tender, could still be handled in 
>>> most conditions, and the shoal draft should be great for the shallows 
>>> areas.   
>>> 
>>> Call me crazy, but I also think your 27 MkV could be trailered to Florida 
>>> in 1/10th the time and sailed to the islands just fine.  Pick your weather 
>>> and window and go.
>>> 
>>> Chuck
>>> Resolute
>>> 1990 C&C 34R
>>> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
>>> 
>>> From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
>>> To: bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:50:30 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore
>>> 
>>> Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a 
>>> centerboard and have been cruising for several years now; 
>>> http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/
>>>  
>>> Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to the 
>>> Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/
>>>  
>>>  
>>> I'm sure there's more.
>>> Richard
>>> 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Richard N. Bush
>>> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
>>> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
>>> 502-584-7255
>>>  
>>>  
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
>>> To: C&C List Canada 
>>> Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am
>>> Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore
>>> 
>>> Happy winter everyone. 
>>> I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to 
>>> make 
>>> dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a 
>>> little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the 
>>> ICW, 
>>> wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas. 
>>>  His 
>>> spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, 
>>> who 
>>> knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to 
>>> tag 
>>> along with someone going that way for safety. 
>>> Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm 
>>> curious on how they handle a big sea. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Brent Driedger
>>> 27-5
>>> Lake Winnipeg. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> ___
>>> 
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Re: Stus-List Gray PVC plumbing fittings source?

[Indigo via CnC-List]

I found a good selection a few years ago at an RV equipment supplier. Bought a 
whole load of spares "just in case"

--
Jonathan
Indigo C&C 35III
SOUTHPORT CT

> On Jan 27, 2015, at 00:59, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I  am having difficulty finding a source for the press/nipple fitting  on the 
> gray semi rigid PVC plumbing for our water system  on our 89 30-2. One of the 
> fitting s has been weeping a bit at the Raritan 6 gallon hot water tank I 
> replaced recently. I suspect they are not intended to be reused or it was 
> deformed by over torquing by amateur marine plumbers such as myself. Any 
> leads? Has everyone moved on to PE and quick connect fittings?
> 
> I don't have a good photo except of the old heater before I removed it. The 
> image is looking down onto the heater with the water supply on the right. The 
> broken coupling was someone else's doing but was water tight. 
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwhcX19YaPJ8ZmlnVkEzTTVySXM/edit?usp=docslist_api
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
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Stus-List Universal M4-30

[jason shoemake via CnC-List]

 I've found a Universal M4-30 close to home, 100 miles away, $3,000. Does 
anyone have any experience with these? Are parts available? The seller says its 
been completely rebuilt and has one hour on it, was on eBay earlier this year 
for $4,5000, why didn't it sell?? My '78 29-1 has long since had the A4 gutted 
along with the fuel tank, panel, shaft and everything but the strut, gone! It 
was gifted to me with a long shaft 9.9.She's on the hard here in Mississippi, 
needing a few other things as well.I just cant bring myself to launch her with 
that O/B astern.
So the question I'm asking is Pull the trigger on the M4 or hold off, wait 
for a better opportunity?
Thanks,Jason ShoemakeSV Bijou
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Re: Stus-List Universal M4-30

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Rebuilt as in "rebuilt by a professional mechanic with all new parts" or
"spray can rebuild"?

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 28 January 2015 at 18:15, jason shoemake via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I've found a Universal M4-30 close to home, 100 miles away, $3,000. Does
> anyone have any experience with these? Are parts available? The seller says
> its been completely rebuilt and has one hour on it, was on eBay earlier
> this year for $4,5000, why didn't it sell??
>  My '78 29-1 has long since had the A4 gutted along with the fuel tank,
> panel, shaft and everything but the strut, gone!
> It was gifted to me with a long shaft 9.9.
> She's on the hard here in Mississippi, needing a few other things as well.
> I just cant bring myself to launch her with that O/B astern.
>
> So the question I'm asking is Pull the trigger on the M4 or hold off,
> wait for a better opportunity?
>
> Thanks,
> Jason Shoemake
> SV Bijou
>
>
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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[Michael Brown via CnC-List]

Possibly Siggy's Dancer, D&J Richardson.

Dave posted under "Do it yourself" the
deck and chain plate overhaul he did.

Michael Brown
Windburn
C&C 30-1


Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:51:27 -0500 
From: Andrew Burton  
To: John Pennie ,     "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
      
Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore 
Message-ID:  
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" 
 
I used to see a 30 Mk 1 in the Caribbean for years. She'd been sailed down from 
Ontario. Our boats are pretty stout...certainly a lot better than some of the 
boats built for cruising these days. 
 
Andy 
C&C 40 
Peregrine  
 
Andrew Burton 
61 W Narragansett 
Newport, RI  
USA    02840 
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Re: Stus-List 34 offshore

[Steve Sharkey via CnC-List]

I've also had my 1983 37 centerboard to and from Bermuda a couple of times as 
well as Annapolis to Newport.  Conditions included over 40 knots and a rough 
Gulf Stream crossing coming home last year and the boat handles the weather 
very well and with good crew comfort.

Steve Sharkey

> On Jan 28, 2015, at 5:42 PM, David via CnC-List  wrote:
> 
> Brent,
> 
> My 1981 40' is the big brother of the 34'.  Although we are a deep draft 
> (7'6") the hull shapes are probably very similar.   I can tell you Corsair 
> has been out in "stuff" (40+ knots)  in the Gulf of Main and the Gulf Stream 
> on the way to and fro Bermuda.  Her handling and construction has never let 
> me down and in fact, if all goes to plan, we plan on taking her "cross the 
> pond" in 2017.
> 
> And at the other end of the spectrum her light air capabilities are great.   
> Will go 3-4 knots when others are motoring and burning fuel.
> 
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
> 
> 
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 22:23:20 +
> To: bushma...@aol.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> 
> Hi Brent,
> I've always felt offshore capabilities of various boats depended more on the 
> skipper than the boat.  Look at what Slocum took around the world.Now 
> they are crossing ocean with rowboats.  
> 
> I've always been a fan of Finnistere, the S&S 38ft centerboarder that won 
> Newport to Bermuda race several times and also did some long cruises 
> http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5663
> 
> I should think a C&C 34 CB known to be tender, could still be handled in most 
> conditions, and the shoal draft should be great for the shallows areas.   
> 
> Call me crazy, but I also think your 27 MkV could be trailered to Florida in 
> 1/10th the time and sailed to the islands just fine.  Pick your weather and 
> window and go.
> 
> Chuck
> Resolute
> 1990 C&C 34R
> Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md
> 
> From: "Richard N. Bush via CnC-List" 
> To: bren...@highspeedcrow.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:50:30 AM
> Subject: Re: Stus-List 34 offshore
> 
> Brent, Check out the "Sailing Saralane" blog, they have a C&C 40 with a 
> centerboard and have been cruising for several years now; 
> http://sailingsaralane.blogspot.ca/
>  
> Also the Persuasion Blog, they're from Canada and just made the jump to the 
> Bahama's; http://persuasion37.com/
>  
>  
> I'm sure there's more.
> Richard
> 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 596;
>  
> 
> Richard N. Bush
> 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine
> Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 
> 502-584-7255
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Brent Driedger via CnC-List 
> To: C&C List Canada 
> Sent: Wed, Jan 28, 2015 2:53 am
> Subject: Stus-List 34 offshore
> 
> Happy winter everyone. 
> I'm just taking a moment to appreciate vintage C&Cs and their ability to make 
> dreams come true.  One of my crew purchased a 1984ish 34 CB near Toronto a 
> little over a year ago, took it across the lake, through the canals to the 
> ICW, 
> wintered in Florida and this season successful began exploring the Bahamas.  
> His 
> spot is showing him just outside of Nassau and with his adventurous spirit, 
> who 
> knows where he'll end up next. He's sailing more or less solo choosing to tag 
> along with someone going that way for safety. 
> Anyone else on the list with the CB version do any offshore cruising? I'm 
> curious on how they handle a big sea. 
> 
> Cheers
> Brent Driedger
> 27-5
> Lake Winnipeg. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Stus-List Ontario 32 in British Columbia

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

Unfortunately, neither the listing agent: 
http://www.thunderbirdmarine.com/boat-info.php?ID=4160 nor the owner: 
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/vancouver/very-nice-cruiser-with-all-you-need-to-sail-the-sea/1036437114?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
 can spell ... and the owner is a bit shaky on who actually built the boat!  
Looks pretty basic but $18,000 from the owner or $19,750 from the broker ... 
that’s $14,500 or $15,900 US.  With 600 hrs on a FWC Yanmar. H..___

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Re: Stus-List Ontario 32 in British Columbia

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

Off and running on the upgrade path!
The 32 is a nice boat, the cockpit in particular is great.
That one looks like it has had something done to the windows, and owner
mods are always suspect.

Even mine.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 28 January 2015 at 19:49, Peter Fell via CnC-List 
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>   Unfortunately, neither the listing agent:
> http://www.thunderbirdmarine.com/boat-info.php?ID=4160 nor the owner:
> http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/vancouver/very-nice-cruiser-with-all-you-need-to-sail-the-sea/1036437114?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
> can spell ... and the owner is a bit shaky on who actually built the boat!
> Looks pretty basic but $18,000 from the owner or $19,750 from the broker
> ... that’s $14,500 or $15,900 US.  With 600 hrs on a FWC Yanmar. H..
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Re: Stus-List Gray PVC plumbing fittings source?

[Jim Watts via CnC-List]

The fittings are standard pipe thread, when they go I convert them to 1/2"
nylon reinforced hose, no more mystery leaks.

Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

On 28 January 2015 at 17:59, Indigo via CnC-List 
wrote:

> I found a good selection a few years ago at an RV equipment supplier.
> Bought a whole load of spares "just in case"
>
> --
> Jonathan
> Indigo C&C 35III
> SOUTHPORT CT
>
> On Jan 27, 2015, at 00:59, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
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> I  am having difficulty finding a source for the press/nipple fitting  on
> the gray semi rigid PVC plumbing for our water system  on our 89 30-2. One
> of the fitting s has been weeping a bit at the Raritan 6 gallon hot water
> tank I replaced recently. I suspect they are not intended to be reused or
> it was deformed by over torquing by amateur marine plumbers such as myself.
> Any leads? Has everyone moved on to PE and quick connect fittings?
>
> I don't have a good photo except of the old heater before I removed it.
> The image is looking down onto the heater with the water supply on the
> right. The broken coupling was someone else's doing but was water tight.
> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BwhcX19YaPJ8ZmlnVkEzTTVySXM/edit?usp=docslist_api
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Stus-List My old 24' up for sale

[Paul Baker via CnC-List]

I saw Tangerine, my previous boat listed, 
http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/CC-24_23913326
Current owner spent a fair bit on her, although the interior was done by yours 
truly.  Anyway, if you know anyone looking, she's a good boat and I'd love to 
see her go to a good home.
Cheers,
Paul

Orange Crush
C&C27MkII
Sidney, BC

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Re: Stus-List My old 24' up for sale

[Peter Fell via CnC-List]

Nice looking interior!

I still get a kick out of someone who managed to replace a boat called 
Tangerine with a boat called Orange Crush ... without involving a renaming 
ceremony!


Peter Fell
Sidney, BC
Cygnet
C&C 27 MkIII

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Baker via CnC-List

Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:28 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List My old 24' up for sale

I saw Tangerine, my previous boat listed, 
http://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/CC-24_23913326
Current owner spent a fair bit on her, although the interior was done by 
yours truly.  Anyway, if you know anyone looking, she's a good boat and I'd 
love to see her go to a good home.

Cheers,
Paul

Orange Crush
C&C27MkII
Sidney, BC

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