Re: Stus-List 37+ handrail removal

2014-11-23 Thread Ken Heaton via CnC-List
I have removed both handrails and had new ones made up in stainless.  I
made a thin plywood pattern of the holes so the shop making up the new
rails could match the existing holes exactly.  I haven't installed them
yet. The boat will be indoors for a while this winter and it will be done
then.  The shop made a beautiful job of them.  These guys:
http://www.anchorhatches.com/

I couldn't figure out how to get the headliner out without destroying
something so I left it in place.  I removed the trim surrounding the hatch
in the heads so I could see into the space between the headliner and the
cabin top to see the nut on the bolt holding the handrail in place.  I had
to use a small mirror to actually get to see it.  This sort of mirror:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjAwWDYwMA==/z/hOwAAOSwbqpT9Tqi/$_3.JPG

I took the mirror off the head wall and removed all the screws holding the
headliner to the bulkhead between the head and the nav station. I was able
then to gently pry the headliner away from the bulkhead and wedge it to
leave enough space to slip a deep socket with a couple of extensions and U
joints up into the space and get onto the nut to take it off, watching the
progress of the socket in the mirror.  Patience was required.  Fortunately
I had some that day...

I expect installing the nut on the new handrail may be the reverse of this
procedure but I may just end up making a hole in the head liner and cover
it somehow or patch it afterward if the socket and mirror approach doesn't
work. Unfortunately the headliner is almost vertical under the nut so the
hole won't be small.  I do like the idea of being able to get at this nut
in the future though.

Ken H.

On 22 November 2014 at 05:49, Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Any of you 37+ owners know how to get to the aft most mounting screw on
> the port handrail?  It looks like it's inside nut is above the headliner of
> the head or maybe above the forward bulkhead of the head, between the salon
> headliner and the head headliner.
>
> I am fine pulling the head's headliner except that it looks like it is
> laminated to the cabin top (near the windows at a minimum).  Same with the
> significantly larger salon headliner.  I think an access hole and plug are
> in order but where best to put one is the question.
>
> Thanks guys,
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
>
___
This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album

Email address:
CnC-List@cnc-list.com
To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page 
at:
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com



Re: Stus-List New Sailor Intro and Questions

2014-11-23 Thread Joe Della Barba via CnC-List
I have twice had fish get sucked up into the engine.

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

j...@dellabarba.com

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jim Watts 
via CnC-List
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:01 AM
To: Joel Aronson; 1 CnC List
Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sailor Intro and Questions

 

I pick blocked exhaust elbow for $500.

Trace the water flow, pull hoses, look in orifices. I had to drill out the 90* 
fitting between the engine and the exhaust because it was totally blocked with 
hard crud.




Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
C&C 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC

 

On 22 November 2014 at 13:02, Joel Aronson via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Dan,

 

 

Welcome to our C&c family!  You may be able to tighten the bolts along the toe 
rail.  It tales 2 ppeople - one inside, one out.  There is butyl tape in the 
joint.  

 

Overheating could be a stuck impeller part or blocked exhaust elbow (common on 
Yanmars).

 

Joel

35/3

Annapolis

 


On Saturday, November 22, 2014, Gary Nylander via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

A relatively easy way to check further about your engine - pull the cylinder 
head. My 2QM15 had a crack between one of the valve seats and the water 
passage. Replacing the head was not cheap, but a lot easier than pulling and 
still only having to replace the head. Once the head is off you can check the 
cylinders and whatever else you may think may be wrong. 

 

Gary

- Original Message - 

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 

To: C&C List ; Dennis C. 

Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:21 PM

Subject: Re: Stus-List New Sailor Intro and Questions

 

To add on to Dennis's comment about exploring the overheating while keeping the 
engine onboard.  I had a mechinist who was very familiar with Yanmar tell me 
that there was very little reason to ever pull a Yanmar.  According to him the 
bearings are significantly over built.  So, assuming you keep up with the oil 
level and changes, a bottom job is probably not ever going to be needed.  

Barring a cracked block or blown piston the only other thing that you might 
need to pull the engine for is stuck rings.  I've had good luck getting rings 
unstuck twice now without having to disassemble the engine.  So have a blast 
working the top end as much as tou like.  

You'll probably also find that there are a bunch of interferences that would 
have made getting the engine out a very big job.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C&C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Nov 22, 2014 9:53 AM, "Dennis C. via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

Welcome, Dan

First, the leaks on the toe rails.  They should currently be sealed with butyl 
rubber.  You can tighten the fasteners a bit.  Have someone hold from above and 
tighten from below.  Do NOT overtighten or you'll squeeze the butyl out.  

I don't worry too much about toe rail leaks but if the above procedure doesn't 
completely stop leakage, try multiple applications of Captain Tolleys Creeping 
Crack Cure.  Just run beads down the inboard edge of the toe rail/deck joint.  
Eventually it will seal most leakage.

As for the engine removal, you can use the boom but not for lifting.  Use your 
main halyard if it's in good condition to support the weight.  Rig a purchase 
from the boom end to the halyard to haul in/out along the boom.  Tie the 
halyard to the boom loosely with a loop, unfasten the engine mounts from the 
support rail, lift engine slightly, slide it out of the compartment then lift 
clear and swing to pier using purchase to move it outboard.

Having said that, I'd thoroughly explore the overheating issue before pulling 
the engine.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Nov 22, 2014 6:48 AM, "Dan via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

I’m relatively new to sailing boats though I have been to a school using 14’ 
Holders, then 21’ day sailors, wind surfing (lake boards) and 30+ years of hang 
gliding.  I currently own 2 sailboats, a 1976 23’ Ericson and a 1977 26’ C&C 
(my favorite).  I’ve owned the Ericson about a year and the C&C 4 months.  The 
C&C is in excellent shape, has all the goodies and more sails than I know what 
to do with right now. The Yanmar will come out this winter (working on how to 
remove) so I can overhaul; it was overheating when I bought the vessel, got a 
very good deal on the boat.  I toyed with the idea of hanging a 15HP Yamaha on 
the stern but would rather not drill holes in her plus I have all the 
maintenance manuals for the Yanmar and I’m a mechanic. Sorry babbling. 

 

Sailing the C&C @ 30 miles from her old mooring to new digs was a blast, she 
sails easily and I can’t wait to get her out this coming spring.  I’ll sail the 
Ericson over the winter here (Pacific Northwest) while I work on the Yanmar.

 

I do have a couple questions if I may:

 

*   I have a small water leak on both the port and starboard sides aft are 
of the cabin, suspect coming from the

Stus-List helm seat

2014-11-23 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
I've been building a new helm seat to replace the standard C&C seat that is
too high for my wife and generally uncomfortable.  Nothing revolutionary,
not perfect, but it should be an improvement.  It is narrower than the
original so there is more room behind the wheel.
Bought the teak on Ebay.  Bronze screws, wood glue and epoxy, Cetol
natural.  I'll probably make a cushion out of closed cell foam and
sunbrella.

Photo is here:
www.facebook/theoffice35.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis



-- 
Joel
301 541 8551
___
This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album

Email address:
CnC-List@cnc-list.com
To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page 
at:
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com



Stus-List BIRW Charter

2014-11-23 Thread Charles Nelson via CnC-List
I am thinking/dreaming of doing BIRW in June and would need to charter a boat 
that requires a crew of ~ 8, most of whom would probably stay on board to 
minimize logistical problems as well as cost.

As a C&Cer, would prefer to charter the same so I thought I would check with 
the list for possible charters or advice about the area/race.

Any hints/advice would be welcome.

Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb


list 

Sent from my iPad
___
This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album

Email address:
CnC-List@cnc-list.com
To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page 
at:
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com



Stus-List Using 12v trickle charger to test components?

2014-11-23 Thread Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List
Can I do this? I would like to check a few things and this is easier off
the boat. It's a small trickle charger. Can I clamp on the alligator clips
and test away?

Thanks
___
This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album

Email address:
CnC-List@cnc-list.com
To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page 
at:
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com



Re: Stus-List Using 12v trickle charger to test components?

2014-11-23 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Kevin,

I would think that it would depend on the amps it puts out and what the amp 
draw is of what you're testing. 

All the best,

Edd

---
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37+ | NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
www.StarshipSailing.com
---
Sent from my iPad Air
iPad. iTypos. iApologize



> On Nov 23, 2014, at 10:01 PM, Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can I do this? I would like to check a few things and this is easier off the 
> boat. It's a small trickle charger. Can I clamp on the alligator clips and 
> test away?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> ___
> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album
> 
> Email address:
> CnC-List@cnc-list.com
> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page 
> at:
> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
> 
___
This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album

Email address:
CnC-List@cnc-list.com
To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page 
at:
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com



Stus-List FW Head

2014-11-23 Thread John Pennie via CnC-List
Winter project is to add a freshwater head.  Anyone have experience with the 
Sealand Masterflush series?

John


___
This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album

Email address:
CnC-List@cnc-list.com
To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page 
at:
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com



Re: Stus-List Using 12v trickle charger to test components?

2014-11-23 Thread Chuck S via CnC-List
It might? Depends on what you are testing; a Navigation instrument might need 
an amp, or a light will need a little more, or a pump may need 5amps, or a 
windless may need 20amps. Trickle chargers are usually rated for 2amps. Not 
sure of consequences if it doesn't work. Best to protect the charger w an 
inline fuse and the device w an inline fuse of the right size. 

There are several devices that come with 120AC to 12VDC transformers. My Garmin 
GPS and a West Marine VHF came w one. I have several from kid's toys, too. 

You can also plug the device into the 12V socket in your car. 

Let us know how that goes? 

Chuck 
Resolute 
1990 C&C 34R 
Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md 

- Original Message -

From: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
To: "CNC boat owners, cnc-list"  
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 10:01:48 PM 
Subject: Stus-List Using 12v trickle charger to test components? 

Can I do this? I would like to check a few things and this is easier off the 
boat. It's a small trickle charger. Can I clamp on the alligator clips and test 
away? 

Thanks 


___ 
This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album 

Email address: 
CnC-List@cnc-list.com 
To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page 
at: 
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com 


___
This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album

Email address:
CnC-List@cnc-list.com
To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page 
at:
http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com