Stus-List Overpriced?
There is a buyer for everything, at the right price. When we were looking for a boat in 2005-06, there were three (3) C&C 32's for sale here in Halifax, N.S...looked at them all. Looked at a C&C 30 MKI and Mirage 32 here as well. Ended up buying our boat from Racine Riverside Marina, Racine, Wisconsin.one owner, professionally maintained, adequately equipped, fresh water boat. The purchase price, exchange rate and transportation cost to truck it here cost us approx. $8,000 less than what we would have paid for any of the local boats. We also got a new 10' Zodiac thrown in. And I have sold 3 sails that came with the boat that I will never use. I never traveled to Racine to view the boat.paid a surveyor about $350 USD for a 23 page reportthat was the selling point, the survey. I would do that no matter where I was buying a boat. I understand many buyers would never do what we did, buy a boat unseen so far away. Would I do it again, absolutely. I wish this 32 seller well.if he gets close to his asking price, it bodes well for all us C&C owners. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/26 10:54 PM, Brent Driedger wrote: I'll chime in on this as Bowline Yachts was the broker for my boat backwhen I bought it and I know the owner well. At first glance the prices they ask seem high and become the frequent talk at the club but with respect to the company's owner I'll provide a little insight to explain thoughnot necessarily justify the prices. In central Canada here there is not much option for buying used sailboats. The market is not saturated by any means and the stock of quality used boats available is thin. This usually means pay what the owner wants oroutsource to the south and pay for exchange, shipping, border brokerage, flights to and from the location, permits and lots of survey charges. When you total it all up the prices end up being fairly close to what Bowline typically charges. Then add to that there is the comfort level of knowing the history of the local boats, their owners and background. Furtherto that, our season is short so all of these boats are out of water for 7 months of the year. The boats are in fresh water the remaining 5 and onLake of the Woods there's little swell to speak of even in storms. The biggest hazard is grounding and unfortunately most sailboats there have touched bottom. The remainder will some day. The rigs although 30 plus years old show no corrosion or acid rain pitting. Gener ally outside of wet decks or blisters, a 35 year old boat is in 20 year old condition if it was decently maintained. I agree that $65000 for an 84 32 is very high but the price will appealto those who want a quick painless purchase with background confidence of a quality fresh water boat. It may include a slip too which at my harbour is impossible to get now. I would expect a fair bit of negotiation will bring it closer to reality as well. Cheers Brent Driedger C&C 27v Lake Winnipeg Sent from my iPhone On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List wrote: While I think this appears to be a nicely equipped and well maintainedboat, I think the owner is overly optimistic with his asking price. We bought our boat in 2006 for half that price and it was a well maintained,fresh water, one owner boat. Sure would like to hear any and all comments on this! http://www.bowlineyachts.ca/sailboats/1984candclegacy.html Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler
Hi Guys, Anyone have a source for an old easyblock mainsheet traveler car? Mine broke on the way over on Saturday. I bet there are tons of them out there from people who've upgraded to more modern systems... here are some links to pics of it http://1drv.ms/1wBQYK0 http://1drv.ms/1wBR2K3 http://1drv.ms/1rvRrap Danny ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler
I crew on a boat with one of those. I wish I could get the owner to replace it. Maybe you could talk to garhauer and see if they would make something. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 27, 2014 1:32 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > Anyone have a source for an old easyblock mainsheet traveler car? > > Mine broke on the way over on Saturday. I bet there are tons of them out > there from people who've upgraded to more modern systems... > > here are some links to pics of it > > http://1drv.ms/1wBQYK0 > > http://1drv.ms/1wBR2K3 > > http://1drv.ms/1rvRrap > > Danny > > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler
Danny, Rig-Rite has them listed - http://www.rigrite.com/Travellers/NF_Travellers/NFtraveler.html Cheers Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 C&C 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: October-27-14 14:29 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler Hi Guys, Anyone have a source for an old easyblock mainsheet traveler car? Mine broke on the way over on Saturday. I bet there are tons of them out there from people who've upgraded to more modern systems... here are some links to pics of it http://1drv.ms/1wBQYK0 http://1drv.ms/1wBR2K3 http://1drv.ms/1rvRrap Danny ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4189/8464 - Release Date: 10/27/14 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler
But of course. (in a French accent) Being a true sailor, I never throw anything out, and I still have that piece of shit, complete with the traveler, flatened rollers, minus the blocks. If it is the same size, it is yours for the shipping. Even if it is not. And the great thing is, when going to weather, every other tack your car will be positioned right where you want it. Regards, Bill Coleman C&C 39 -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Taillieu via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 3:28 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler Danny, Rig-Rite has them listed - http://www.rigrite.com/Travellers/NF_Travellers/NFtraveler.html Cheers Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 C&C 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: October-27-14 14:29 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler Hi Guys, Anyone have a source for an old easyblock mainsheet traveler car? Mine broke on the way over on Saturday. I bet there are tons of them out there from people who've upgraded to more modern systems... here are some links to pics of it http://1drv.ms/1wBQYK0 http://1drv.ms/1wBR2K3 http://1drv.ms/1rvRrap Danny ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4189/8464 - Release Date: 10/27/14 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler
Thats some funny stuff. LOL Mine is about 3 1/4" long and 3 1/8" wide, overall. Where are you? Do you have any pics? My rollers are still round and pop right off. I'll write off list. Danny -- Original Message -- From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List To: "'Rick Taillieu'" , Subject: Re: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:58:58 -0400 But of course. (in a French accent) Being a true sailor, I never throw anything out, and I still have that piece of shit, complete with the traveler, flatened rollers, minus the blocks. If it is the same size, it is yours for the shipping. Even if it is not. And the great thing is, when going to weather, every other tack your car will be positioned right where you want it. Regards, Bill Coleman C&C 39 -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rick Taillieu via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 3:28 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler Danny, Rig-Rite has them listed - http://www.rigrite.com/Travellers/NF_Travellers/NFtraveler.html Cheers Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 C&C 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: October-27-14 14:29 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler Hi Guys, Anyone have a source for an old easyblock mainsheet traveler car? Mine broke on the way over on Saturday. I bet there are tons of them out there from people who've upgraded to more modern systems... here are some links to pics of it http://1drv.ms/1wBQYK0 http://1drv.ms/1wBR2K3 http://1drv.ms/1rvRrap Danny ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4189/8464 - Release Date: 10/27/14 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler
okay that's ridiculous... you're in NS and found, what looks to be, the exact replacement not 15 miles from where now I sit! Well played sir! Danny -- Original Message -- From: Rick Taillieu via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 16:28:04 -0300 Danny, Rig-Rite has them listed - http://www.rigrite.com/Travellers/NF_Travellers/NFtraveler.html Cheers Rick Taillieu Nemesis '75 C&C 25 #371 Shearwater Yacht Club Halifax, NS. -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny Haughey via CnC-List Sent: October-27-14 14:29 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List EasyBlock Mainsheet Traveler Hi Guys, Anyone have a source for an old easyblock mainsheet traveler car? Mine broke on the way over on Saturday. I bet there are tons of them out there from people who've upgraded to more modern systems... here are some links to pics of it http://1drv.ms/1wBQYK0 http://1drv.ms/1wBR2K3 http://1drv.ms/1rvRrap Danny ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4189/8464 - Release Date: 10/27/14 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List 29-2 material
Earlier this year I asked about recovering two cushions. Everything looks really good except two worn bits. I really do not want to recover everything. Am thinking of taking off bottom material and reusing it on top. Might have to do this. Is there anyone who has the dark blue material with a gold thread available?___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Suncor Quick Attach fittings
Someone just posted this in a group on facebook: Goodness, when did suncor limit their fittings to small sailboats? This is a major decision that needs to be stated on all the sailing pages, practical sailor, distributors such as Jamestown, west marine, etc. do you realize we could lose our mast and people get hurt and die. I often have millionaires sail with me. Good lord! This is not a minor concern. Why would you make a 3/8" fitting that won't carry the load? I am not happy. I request reimbursement for these 6 fittings. Send the check to Ray truitt 7301 magnolia court Galveston Texas 77551 And a prepaid shipping for the return of the disaster fittings. My hope is to keep the attorneys out of this. Thank for your concern Ray and Annie On Oct 27, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Suncor Stainless Support Team Thank you for your question. Question: --- Gentlemen/ladies, I have 6 suncor quick attach fittings newly installed on my boat. I carefully followed the instructions yet one completely let go yesterday and one crept out about 1/4". The others are now in doubt. Suggestions? --- Answer: --- Hello Ray, Thank you for your question and interest in Suncor Stainless products. Before any follow-up questions regarding the product can you reply as to whether the quick attach was being used as standard rigging? Please read the below and reply back to this email. Thank you. Below is some of the information provided on the Suncor Website in the PRODUCT INFORMATION AND SUPPORT section. On the home page click on this section and type in quick attach in the search feature. _ Why would you want to use mechanical swage fittings? Quick Attach™ fittings are precision machined from grade 316 stainless steel and Lloyds approved under #97/00200 for holding power of at least 90% of the maximum breakload of the wire rope used. Special attention has been placed on the strength of the terminals, which usually results in the wire breaking before the fitting gets distorted. The advantage of Quick Attach™ fittings over conventional fittings is the arrangement of the wedges on the outside of the cable. This makes assembly much easier and allows different types of wire to be used with the same fitting. Quick Attach™ fittings are ideal for repair of rigging without swaging and for many other industrial or architectural uses where the exact length of the cable cannot be determined beforehand or where assembly needs to take place on-site. Quick Attach Fittings are are not recommended for "permanent" standing rigging on boats over 19 feet or boats using wire over 3/16" diameter. --- -- Suncor Stainless Support Team mailto:loret...@suncorstainless.com,jo...@suncorstainless.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Overpriced?
Here's a 1974 35' C&C for $19,000 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1ySU5HQmpDOUNOYjQ/edit?usp=docslist_api Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 25, 2014 1:08 PM, "Robert Abbott via CnC-List" wrote: > While I think this appears to be a nicely equipped and well maintained > boat, I think the owner is overly optimistic with his asking price. We > bought our boat in 2006 for half that price and it was a well maintained, > fresh water, one owner boat. > > Sure would like to hear any and all comments on this! > > > http://www.bowlineyachts.ca/sailboats/1984candclegacy.html > > Rob Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - 84 > Halifax, N.S. > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Overpriced?
Here's the boat listing: https://www.curtisstokes.net/yciframe.htm On Oct 27, 2014 8:20 PM, "Josh Muckley" wrote: > Here's a 1974 35' C&C for $19,000 > > > https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1ySU5HQmpDOUNOYjQ/edit?usp=docslist_api > > Josh Muckley > S/V Sea Hawk > 1989 C&C 37+ > Solomons, MD > On Oct 25, 2014 1:08 PM, "Robert Abbott via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> While I think this appears to be a nicely equipped and well maintained >> boat, I think the owner is overly optimistic with his asking price. We >> bought our boat in 2006 for half that price and it was a well maintained, >> fresh water, one owner boat. >> >> Sure would like to hear any and all comments on this! >> >> >> http://www.bowlineyachts.ca/sailboats/1984candclegacy.html >> >> Rob Abbott >> AZURA >> C&C 32 - 84 >> Halifax, N.S. >> >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Overpriced?
On 2014/10/27 9:20 PM, Josh Muckley wrote: Anyone want to offer me $65,000, or close, for my 32, so I could gladly buy this 35 at full asking price in addition to exchange rate and transportation costs to Halifax. Thanks Josh, this is insightful. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. Here's a 1974 35' C&C for $19,000 https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1ySU5HQmpDOUNOYjQ/edit?usp=docslist_api Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C&C 37+ Solomons, MD On Oct 25, 2014 1:08 PM, "Robert Abbott via CnC-List" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: While I think this appears to be a nicely equipped and well maintained boat, I think the owner is overly optimistic with his asking price. We bought our boat in 2006 for half that price and it was a well maintained, fresh water, one owner boat. Sure would like to hear any and all comments on this! http://www.bowlineyachts.ca/sailboats/1984candclegacy.html Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List One of C&C's initial designs
And I thought some of us had "old" boats. Take a peek at this: < http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1962/C%26C-Canadian-Northern-Hull-%2310-2743930/Mobile/AL/United-States#.VE7zJhZNfh8 > Note the "Star" on the bow cove stripe. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Another desperate attempt to maintain my dignity
Yes, I'm aware that is is so hot that the sweat running off my scalp has actually started to drip off my nose.But I'm still a nice guy... (baby ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List CnC-List Digest, Vol 105, Issue 76
I also bought my boat in Racine and got a multi-page report from the recommended surveyor. The survey was dishonest from start to finish, had the seller's interest in mind and future survey business. Had it been honest, I could have gotten another $10,000 off the sell price. The moral of the story is do your own survey. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 27, 2014, at 12:00 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to >cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at >cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Overpriced? (Robert Abbott) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:40:26 -0300 > From: Robert Abbott > To: Brent Driedger ,"cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > > Subject: Stus-List Overpriced? > Message-ID: <544e676a.5000...@eastlink.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > There is a buyer for everything, at the right price. > > When we were looking for a boat in 2005-06, there were three (3) C&C > 32's for sale here in Halifax, N.S...looked at them all. Looked at > a C&C 30 MKI and Mirage 32 here as well. > > Ended up buying our boat from Racine Riverside Marina, Racine, > Wisconsin.one owner, professionally maintained, adequately equipped, > fresh water boat. The purchase price, exchange rate and transportation > cost to truck it here cost us approx. $8,000 less than what we would > have paid for any of the local boats. We also got a new 10' Zodiac > thrown in. And I have sold 3 sails that came with the boat that I will > never use. > > I never traveled to Racine to view the boat.paid a surveyor about > $350 USD for a 23 page reportthat was the selling point, the survey. > I would do that no matter where I was buying a boat. > > I understand many buyers would never do what we did, buy a boat unseen > so far away. Would I do it again, absolutely. > > I wish this 32 seller well.if he gets close to his asking price, it > bodes well for all us C&C owners. > > Rob Abbott > AZURA > C&C 32 - 84 > Halifax, N.S. > > > > > > >> On 2014/10/26 10:54 PM, Brent Driedger wrote: >> I'll chime in on this as Bowline Yachts was the broker for my boat backwhen >> I bought it and I know the owner well. At first glance the prices they ask >> seem high and become the frequent talk at the club but with respect to the >> company's owner I'll provide a little insight to explain thoughnot >> necessarily justify the prices. >> In central Canada here there is not much option for buying used sailboats. >> The market is not saturated by any means and the stock of quality used boats >> available is thin. This usually means pay what the owner wants oroutsource >> to the south and pay for exchange, shipping, border brokerage, flights to >> and from the location, permits and lots of survey charges. When you total it >> all up the prices end up being fairly close to what Bowline typically >> charges. Then add to that there is the comfort level of knowing the history >> of the local boats, their owners and background. Furtherto that, our season >> is short so all of these boats are out of water for 7 months of the year. >> The boats are in fresh water the remaining 5 and onLake of the Woods there's >> little swell to speak of even in storms. The biggest hazard is grounding and >> unfortunately most sailboats there have touched bottom. The remainder will >> some day. The rigs although 30 plus years old show no corrosion or acid rain >> pitting. Gener > ally outside of wet decks or blisters, a 35 year old boat is in 20 year old > condition if it was decently maintained. >> I agree that $65000 for an 84 32 is very high but the price will appealto >> those who want a quick painless purchase with background confidence of a >> quality fresh water boat. It may include a slip too which at my harbour is >> impossible to get now. I would expect a fair bit of negotiation will bring >> it closer to reality as well. >> Cheers >> >> Brent Driedger >> C&C 27v >> Lake Winnipeg >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List >>> wrote: >>> >>> While I think this appears to be a nicely equipped and well maintainedboat, >>> I think the owner is overly optimistic with his asking price. We bought >>> our boat in 2006 for half that price and it was a well maintained,fresh >>> water, one owner boat. >>> >>> Sure would like to hear any and all comments on this! >>> >>> >>> http://www.bowlineyac
Re: Stus-List Another desperate attempt to maintain my dignity
Frost along the north shore of Lake Erie last night, but warm and windy tonight. - Original Message - From: "Wally Bryant via CnC-List" To: Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:41 PM Subject: Stus-List Another desperate attempt to maintain my dignity Yes, I'm aware that is is so hot that the sweat running off my scalp has actually started to drip off my nose.But I'm still a nice guy... (baby ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Overpriced
Jon, Maybe the difference in our experiences buying a boat was that you said you received a survey "from a recommended surveyor". Recommended by whomthe seller's broker? My surveyor was 'not recommended'..I chose him myself. When I notified the seller's broker, the broker said to me on the telephone "Oh no, tell me I don't have to deal with Peter Kth, he can pick pepper out of fly sh_t". I chose the surveyor myself from the US Accredited Marine Surveyors (probably got their association name wrong, but you all know what I am talking about) . I had a completely different experience than you did, maybe because my surveyor 'did not have the seller's interest in mind'. My surveyor had my interests in mind. I made sure of that! Sounds like yours did not. Sorry to hear that, you will know better next time around. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/27 10:55 PM, Jon Tasker via CnC-List wrote: I also bought my boat in Racine and got a multi-page report from the recommended surveyor. The survey was dishonest from start to finish, had the seller's interest in mind and future survey business. Had it been honest, I could have gotten another $10,000 off the sell price. The moral of the story is do your own survey. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 27, 2014, at 12:00 PM,cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to cnc-list@cnc-list.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com You can reach the person managing the list at cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Overpriced? (Robert Abbott) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:40:26 -0300 From: Robert Abbott To: Brent Driedger,"cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Stus-List Overpriced? Message-ID:<544e676a.5000...@eastlink.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed There is a buyer for everything, at the right price. When we were looking for a boat in 2005-06, there were three (3) C&C 32's for sale here in Halifax, N.S...looked at them all. Looked at a C&C 30 MKI and Mirage 32 here as well. Ended up buying our boat from Racine Riverside Marina, Racine, Wisconsin.one owner, professionally maintained, adequately equipped, fresh water boat. The purchase price, exchange rate and transportation cost to truck it here cost us approx. $8,000 less than what we would have paid for any of the local boats. We also got a new 10' Zodiac thrown in. And I have sold 3 sails that came with the boat that I will never use. I never traveled to Racine to view the boat.paid a surveyor about $350 USD for a 23 page reportthat was the selling point, the survey. I would do that no matter where I was buying a boat. I understand many buyers would never do what we did, buy a boat unseen so far away. Would I do it again, absolutely. I wish this 32 seller well.if he gets close to his asking price, it bodes well for all us C&C owners. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/26 10:54 PM, Brent Driedger wrote: I'll chime in on this as Bowline Yachts was the broker for my boat backwhen I bought it and I know the owner well. At first glance the prices they ask seem high and become the frequent talk at the club but with respect to the company's owner I'll provide a little insight to explain thoughnot necessarily justify the prices. In central Canada here there is not much option for buying used sailboats. The market is not saturated by any means and the stock of quality used boats available is thin. This usually means pay what the owner wants oroutsource to the south and pay for exchange, shipping, border brokerage, flights to and from the location, permits and lots of survey charges. When you total it all up the prices end up being fairly close to what Bowline typically charges. Then add to that there is the comfort level of knowing the history of the local boats, their owners and background. Furtherto that, our season is short so all of these boats are out of water for 7 months of the year. The boats are in fresh water the remaining 5 and onLake of the Woods there's little swell to speak of even in storms. The biggest hazard is grounding and unfortunately most sailboats there have touched bottom. The remainder will some day. The rigs although 30 plus years old show no corrosion or acid rain pitting. Gene r ally outside of wet decks or blisters, a 35 year old boat is in 20 year old condition if it was decently maintained. I agree that $65000 for an 84 32 is very high but the price will appealto those who want a quick painless purchase with backgro
Re: Stus-List Overpriced
My experience was the same. I picked the surveyor and made sure that he worked for me (not the boatyard or the seller). In fact I picked two. The first time, the surveyor called me from the boat (he did not even wait until he got home) at told me to "run as quickly as I can"; so I did. The second time, a different surveyor (different boat, different place) did a very thorough survey, pointed a few things that may require attention, put together a 25 page report with a ton of pictures (including things that needed attention) and in a conversation recommended to buy. So I did (sight unseen). I am glad that I did (both buy the boat and hire the surveyor). That Accredited marine surveyor association is a good place to start (http://www.marinesurvey.org/) Marek -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Abbott via CnC-List Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 10:36 PM To: Jon Tasker; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Overpriced Jon, Maybe the difference in our experiences buying a boat was that you said you received a survey "from a recommended surveyor". Recommended by whomthe seller's broker? My surveyor was 'not recommended'..I chose him myself. When I notified the seller's broker, the broker said to me on the telephone "Oh no, tell me I don't have to deal with Peter Kth, he can pick pepper out of fly sh_t". I chose the surveyor myself from the US Accredited Marine Surveyors (probably got their association name wrong, but you all know what I am talking about) . I had a completely different experience than you did, maybe because my surveyor 'did not have the seller's interest in mind'. My surveyor had my interests in mind. I made sure of that! Sounds like yours did not. Sorry to hear that, you will know better next time around. Rob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2014/10/27 10:55 PM, Jon Tasker via CnC-List wrote: > I also bought my boat in Racine and got a multi-page report from the recommended surveyor. The survey was dishonest from start to finish, had the seller's interest in mind and future survey business. Had it been honest, I could have gotten another $10,000 off the sell price. The moral of the story is do your own survey. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 27, 2014, at 12:00 PM,cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: >> >> Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Overpriced? (Robert Abbott) >> >> >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:40:26 -0300 >> From: Robert Abbott >> To: Brent Driedger,"cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >> >> Subject: Stus-List Overpriced? >> Message-ID:<544e676a.5000...@eastlink.ca> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> There is a buyer for everything, at the right price. >> >> When we were looking for a boat in 2005-06, there were three (3) C&C >> 32's for sale here in Halifax, N.S...looked at them all. Looked at >> a C&C 30 MKI and Mirage 32 here as well. >> >> Ended up buying our boat from Racine Riverside Marina, Racine, >> Wisconsin.one owner, professionally maintained, adequately equipped, >> fresh water boat. The purchase price, exchange rate and transportation >> cost to truck it here cost us approx. $8,000 less than what we would >> have paid for any of the local boats. We also got a new 10' Zodiac >> thrown in. And I have sold 3 sails that came with the boat that I will >> never use. >> >> I never traveled to Racine to view the boat.paid a surveyor about >> $350 USD for a 23 page reportthat was the selling point, the survey. >> I would do that no matter where I was buying a boat. >> >> I understand many buyers would never do what we did, buy a boat unseen >> so far away. Would I do it again, absolutely. >> >> I wish this 32 seller well.if he gets close to his asking price, it >> bodes well for all us C&C owners. >> >> Rob Abbott >> AZURA >> C&C 32 - 84 >> Halifax, N.S. >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On 2014/10/26 10:54 PM, Brent Driedger wrote: >>> I'll chime in on this as Bowline Yachts was the broker for my boat backwhen I bought it and I know the owner well. At first glance the prices they ask seem high and become the frequent talk at the club but with respect to the company's owner I'll provide a little insight to explain thoughnot necessarily justify the prices. >>> In central Canada here there is not much option for buying used sailboats. The market
Re: Stus-List Another desperate attempt to maintain my dignity
It's raining. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 27 October 2014 19:28, Steve Thomas via CnC-List wrote: > Frost along the north shore of Lake Erie last night, but warm and windy > tonight. > > - Original Message - From: "Wally Bryant via CnC-List" < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > To: > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:41 PM > Subject: Stus-List Another desperate attempt to maintain my dignity > > > > Yes, I'm aware that is is so hot that the sweat running off my scalp has >> actually started to drip off my nose.But I'm still a nice guy... (baby >> >> >> ___ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> >> Email address: >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of >> page at: >> http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com >> >> >> > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Another desperate attempt to maintain my dignity
Wal, No biggie. I just wiped some antiperspirant on my computer screen. It helped. Dennis C. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Wally Bryant via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Yes, I'm aware that is is so hot that the sweat running off my scalp has > actually started to drip off my nose.But I'm still a nice guy... (baby > > > ___ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > > Email address: > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of > page at: > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > > ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
