Jon,
Maybe the difference in our experiences buying a boat was that you said
you received a survey "from a recommended surveyor". Recommended by
whom....the seller's broker?
My surveyor was 'not recommended'......I chose him myself. When I
notified the seller's broker, the broker said to me on the telephone "Oh
no, tell me I don't have to deal with Peter K____th, he can pick pepper
out of fly sh_t". I chose the surveyor myself from the US Accredited
Marine Surveyors (probably got their association name wrong, but you all
know what I am talking about) .
I had a completely different experience than you did, maybe because my
surveyor 'did not have the seller's interest in mind'.
My surveyor had my interests in mind. I made sure of that! Sounds like
yours did not. Sorry to hear that, you will know better next time around.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2014/10/27 10:55 PM, Jon Tasker via CnC-List wrote:
I also bought my boat in Racine and got a multi-page report from the
recommended surveyor. The survey was dishonest from start to finish, had the
seller's interest in mind and future survey business. Had it been honest, I
could have gotten another $10,000 off the sell price. The moral of the story is
do your own survey.
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1. Overpriced? (Robert Abbott)
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:40:26 -0300
From: Robert Abbott<robertabb...@eastlink.ca>
To: Brent Driedger<bren...@highspeedcrow.ca>,"cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
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Subject: Stus-List Overpriced?
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There is a buyer for everything, at the right price.
When we were looking for a boat in 2005-06, there were three (3) C&C
32's for sale here in Halifax, N.S.......looked at them all. Looked at
a C&C 30 MKI and Mirage 32 here as well.
Ended up buying our boat from Racine Riverside Marina, Racine,
Wisconsin.....one owner, professionally maintained, adequately equipped,
fresh water boat. The purchase price, exchange rate and transportation
cost to truck it here cost us approx. $8,000 less than what we would
have paid for any of the local boats. We also got a new 10' Zodiac
thrown in. And I have sold 3 sails that came with the boat that I will
never use.
I never traveled to Racine to view the boat.....paid a surveyor about
$350 USD for a 23 page report....that was the selling point, the survey.
I would do that no matter where I was buying a boat.
I understand many buyers would never do what we did, buy a boat unseen
so far away. Would I do it again, absolutely.
I wish this 32 seller well.....if he gets close to his asking price, it
bodes well for all us C&C owners.
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
On 2014/10/26 10:54 PM, Brent Driedger wrote:
I'll chime in on this as Bowline Yachts was the broker for my boat backwhen I
bought it and I know the owner well. At first glance the prices they ask seem
high and become the frequent talk at the club but with respect to the company's
owner I'll provide a little insight to explain thoughnot necessarily justify
the prices.
In central Canada here there is not much option for buying used sailboats. The
market is not saturated by any means and the stock of quality used boats
available is thin. This usually means pay what the owner wants oroutsource to
the south and pay for exchange, shipping, border brokerage, flights to and from
the location, permits and lots of survey charges. When you total it all up the
prices end up being fairly close to what Bowline typically charges. Then add to
that there is the comfort level of knowing the history of the local boats,
their owners and background. Furtherto that, our season is short so all of
these boats are out of water for 7 months of the year. The boats are in fresh
water the remaining 5 and onLake of the Woods there's little swell to speak of
even in storms. The biggest hazard is grounding and unfortunately most
sailboats there have touched bottom. The remainder will some day. The rigs
although 30 plus years old show no corrosion or acid rain pitting. Gene
r
ally outside of wet decks or blisters, a 35 year old boat is in 20 year old
condition if it was decently maintained.
I agree that $65000 for an 84 32 is very high but the price will appealto those
who want a quick painless purchase with background confidence of a quality
fresh water boat. It may include a slip too which at my harbour is impossible
to get now. I would expect a fair bit of negotiation will bring it closer to
reality as well.
Cheers
Brent Driedger
C&C 27v
Lake Winnipeg
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On Oct 25, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List<cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:
While I think this appears to be a nicely equipped and well maintainedboat, I
think the owner is overly optimistic with his asking price. We bought our boat
in 2006 for half that price and it was a well maintained,fresh water, one owner
boat.
Sure would like to hear any and all comments on this!
http://www.bowlineyachts.ca/sailboats/1984candclegacy.html
Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.
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